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I think SG regressed a year and named his CCC backline, hoping he could get Hoppa and Foran as ring ins.
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Steveswr33333 - 25 Aug 2020 4:10 PM
Egads...Gasnier and Langlands MKII Montoya and Dutchie.

Looks like Georgie is fed up with poor defence and kicking game.
Most of the players responsible have been dropped.

I would play Hoppa in the centres, Meaney at fullback and Okunbor or Smith on the wing.

A win against the Raiders would be a miracle, if it happens Tols will be MOM with 3 x  80 meters tries as Canberra defenders run into each other, fall over or simply roll around on the ground laughing.

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hounddog - 25 Aug 2020 6:27 PM
Steveswr33333 - 25 Aug 2020 4:10 PM

Looks like Georgie is fed up with poor defence and kicking game.
Most of the players responsible have been dropped.

I would play Hoppa in the centres, Meaney at fullback and Okunbor or Smith on the wing.

A win against the Raiders would be a miracle, if it happens Tols will be MOM with 3 x  80 meters tries as Canberra defenders run into each other, fall over or simply roll around on the ground laughing.

Amazing that Jacko has his best game for many a long day with the 13 jersey, but gets back to the edge and Tolman takes his place after his performance at first receiver last week.
Can we have a game without AT?


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hounddog - 25 Aug 2020 6:27 PM
Steveswr33333 - 25 Aug 2020 4:10 PM

Looks like Georgie is fed up with poor defence and kicking game.
Most of the players responsible have been dropped.

I would play Hoppa in the centres, Meaney at fullback and Okunbor or Smith on the wing.

A win against the Raiders would be a miracle, if it happens Tols will be MOM with 3 x  80 meters tries as Canberra defenders run into each other, fall over or simply roll around on the ground laughing.

My concern is that Papalii has more pace than any player in our team.....
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nodster - 25 Aug 2020 6:58 PM
hounddog - 25 Aug 2020 6:27 PM

Amazing that Jacko has his best game for many a long day with the 13 jersey, but gets back to the edge and Tolman takes his place after his performance at first receiver last week.
Can we have a game without AT?


Can we use any of youngsters. Schoup, Topine etc.
Avo to 5/8.
Accept the spoon and move on without the guys who will be not here next year.
The worst side I have seen selected for many years.
And I have watched as many years as Steveswear or whatever.
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nodster - 25 Aug 2020 6:58 PM
hounddog - 25 Aug 2020 6:27 PM

Amazing that Jacko has his best game for many a long day with the 13 jersey, but gets back to the edge and Tolman takes his place after his performance at first receiver last week.
Can we have a game without AT?


Its really concerning that these coaches keep picking him and cant see he is the cancer of this team.....

The root cause of out poor yardage is from AT and anyone that plays like him.

It would be nice to morph the attributes of Lewis/Cogger/Wakeham but unfortunately we cant and have to decide which 2 to keep. 

If Lewis plays the last 30mins last week we win on the back of his kicking game and defence.

I have said it before and will say it again.....in windy conditions Lewis is a must. 
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nodster - 25 Aug 2020 7:06 PM
nodster - 25 Aug 2020 6:58 PM

Can we use any of youngsters. Schoup, Topine etc.
Avo to 5/8.
Accept the spoon and move on without the guys who will be not here next year.
The worst side I have seen selected for many years.
And I have watched as many years as Steveswear or whatever.

I'm not willing to give up hope we can escape the spoon. The time to keep swapping players or throwing youngsters with no reserve game fitness under their belts is not here yet. Leave that for last 2 rounds. 

Avoiding the spoon is important and our only goal.
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Marki - 25 Aug 2020 7:12 PM
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I'm not willing to give up hope we can escape the spoon. The time to keep swapping players or throwing youngsters with no reserve game fitness under their belts is not here yet. Leave that for last 2 rounds. 

Avoiding the spoon is important and our only goal.

Last or second last I don't care.  Avoiding the spoon a pretty uninspiring goal.  Maybe we should make it our target for next year. The future is what's important.  Continuing with those that got us to last spot does nothing for the club going forward.
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Mooloolabadog - 25 Aug 2020 7:24 PM
Marki - 25 Aug 2020 7:12 PM

Last or second last I don't care.  Avoiding the spoon a pretty uninspiring goal.  Maybe we should make it our target for next year. The future is what's important.  Continuing with those that got us to last spot does nothing for the club going forward.

100% M’dog

Its not hard to work out why Montoya, Holland, Sue, Cogger, Tolman etc are all un-signed in 2021 for a reason..... because they’re all farking shit house!!!!!!

Who gives a toss if we end up with the spoon or finish 2nd last!! We’re still shit!!!.... give the pups and the guys that WILL be here next year a go for the next 5 weeks and get rid of the useless deadwood once n for all

This weeks team is the worst 17 named all year.... Britt now gets a go..... farking hell Georgallis!!!
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Re crusher tackles.  Agree they are dangerous and should be eliminated but a simplistic approach is not the answer.  Scenario:  player turns back to defence and pushes backwards to gain metres or off load.  Defence is pushing just as hard to stop him.  Attacker loses feet or is tackled around legs.  The defender will come over the top as a consequence and likely be in a crusher tackle situation (possibly a serious one) by accident without intent.  This may well be on the try line so the defender must defend right up to the last second.  On lifting tackles the ref can call held why not when back turned.
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No matter what grandiose plan Georgallis thinks he is putting in place, his choice of non "non performing players" (double negative deliberately included) is not going to help one iota. If he continues down this path, all that will be achieved is that we will still possibly get the spoon and then hand an underdeveloped side over to Barrett that will have to utiluse the first five games of next season getting the rookies up to NRL speed. I say forget this season, too bad if we get the spoon, this is a perfect opportunity to evaluate young players and prepare the team for 2021 and it would be very irresponsible for SG to waste this opportunity.
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If the action of a player puts himself into a position that is likely to result in a crusher type tackle (that is backing into the defence), the referee should call held before the defence completes the tackle and only act accordingly if the defence continue with the tackle after held is called . Also a crusher type tackle should be called when the defence places the attacking player in a position where he can be harmed and the crusher action is performed.
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Mooloolabadog - 25 Aug 2020 9:18 PM
Re crusher tackles.  Agree they are dangerous and should be eliminated but a simplistic approach is not the answer.  Scenario:  player turns back to defence and pushes backwards to gain metres or off load.  Defence is pushing just as hard to stop him.  Attacker loses feet or is tackled around legs.  The defender will come over the top as a consequence and likely be in a crusher tackle situation (possibly a serious one) by accident without intent.  This may well be on the try line so the defender must defend right up to the last second.  On lifting tackles the ref can call held why not when back turned.

Simple.
If the attacker turns into the tackle then only a drop by the defender can be deemed dangerous. Just lowering of the body by the defender is not deemed dangerous.

Stick to this rule and it will eliminate best part of around 75% of crusher penalties
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If the action of a player puts himself into a position that is likely to result in a crusher type tackle (that is backing into the defence), the referee should call held before the defence completes the tackle and only act accordingly if the defence continue with the tackle after held is called . Also a crusher type tackle should be called when the defence places the attacking player in a position where he can be harmed and the crusher action is performed.

If I can draw a parallel to high shot in AFL..... afew years ago they changed the rule that if the ball carrier ducks in a tackle and is collected high in what have been a below shoulders tackle, then it is no free kick.

Same as NRL, if the ball carrier does a Klemmer or Holland and backs into the tackle then only a drop from the defender can be deemed a penalty. Innocuous body pressure cannot.
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Marki - 25 Aug 2020 9:53 PM
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Simple.
If the attacker turns into the tackle then only a drop by the defender can be deemed dangerous. Just lowering of the body by the defender is not deemed dangerous.

Stick to this rule and it will eliminate best part of around 75% of crusher penalties

I think the aim should be to eliminate the tackle not reassign blame.
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Mooloolabadog - 25 Aug 2020 9:59 PM

I think the aim should be to eliminate the tackle not reassign blame.

Correct. Between yourself and HD there is the answer.

Held should be called when they back in as you say. And if the ref feels like they’re deliberately backing in a surrender tackle should also be called as HD said.

The increased penalties will make the defender watch his duty of care, the above will make the attacker try not to put himself in a dangerous position because at the moment the attacker is liable too.



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While watching the team go round is frustrating, I don't think that the remainder of the season represents a great opportunity to blood young players.

It is unfortunate Taas was injured for a lot of the season, I would have played him.

Topine is perhaps worth a shot, Okunbor should get a run.

Outside of these names we have some good young players, but the emphasis is on young.
Many of them haven't even played reserve grade.

A lot of our reserve graders are reserve graders and some of them, perhaps the better options are already playing NRL.

It is deceptive, becase Baz is inheriting a club in better shape than we appear to be, young players improve fast, especially good young players, one year can make a big difference. A few strategic recruits can make a big difference.

If Baz is good enough the club will meet him halfway, I'm not  talking instant success.

For this season the players have contributed to the mess, give them a shot a fixing it. If some players stand up and lead the way that is a positive.

I'llbe watching DWZ myself, he has had time to reflect on his season so far, let's see if he responds.
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It'll be interesting to see if this Pangai third party thing goes anywhere or will the NRL wriggle out of doing anything on a technicality.  This is where we will see how strong PVL really is.
Despite all the hype nothing yet on the seibold social media case.
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Mooloolabadog - 26 Aug 2020 8:41 AM
It'll be interesting to see if this Pangai third party thing goes anywhere or will the NRL wriggle out of doing anything on a technicality.  This is where we will see how strong PVL really is.
Despite all the hype nothing yet on the seibold social media case.

If there's any truth to it and its a significant amount I expect Administrators at Broncs, TPJs manager, and the club to cop it hard... 

I reckon the rorters moved mountains last year to ensure they were cap compliant this year  (for the first time in 15 years) knowing Vlan the impaler was going to chair the commission... 

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Bulldogs have signed Blake green for 2021 on a 1 year deal
as keiran forans replacement good start he has a acl injury 
how desperate is this club a 34 year old 
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tony v_1 - 26 Aug 2020 3:50 PM
Bulldogs have signed Blake green for 2021 on a 1 year deal
as keiran forans replacement good start he has a acl injury 
how desperate is this club a 34 year old 

It would've been more desperate to sign Foran to a multi-year deal which is why he's moving on. To fill the year as we needed and wanted with Foran he's actually a great pickup for that job - to do 1 year initially and then maybe year to year after that though I think it'll only be the one year. I'd say keep a very close eye on whether we sign Burton come Nov for '22 as I think he (or maybe someone else) is why we wanted a 1 year deal for Foran and now Green.

The fact that he then got injured is just killing a Chinaman stuff, what can you do about it except stiff sh.t it happened. We can hope he's back for Rnd 1 but I very much doubt it, more like rnds 6-8ish I'd say.

And then we just get on with it.
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I had even forgotten Green was at the club in 2010.

This is just having an experienced half around to guide the young players and a bit more depth.
Must be way cheaper than Foran, kicking game is a real area if weakness for us.

If he is on the paddock Green offers more in that area than Foran, Foran directly creates more tries. 

In terms of being on the paddock both Green and Foran are a rsky proposition, a cheap risk is better than an expensive risk.
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tony v_1 - 26 Aug 2020 3:50 PM
Bulldogs have signed Blake green for 2021 on a 1 year deal
as keiran forans replacement good start he has a acl injury 
how desperate is this club a 34 year old 

Tony you are starting to make Marki seem like an optimist, theee is a good reason why the Dibbys are not running the club and we all know what it is. We have just spent 5 very forgettable seasons paying for their stint in charge.

Give Baz and co time to sort out the mess.
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Apparently Blake green will miss 7 to 9 months for his 
ACL so our 2020 season is over in September & that means
green won’t be back till around may so he will miss 2 or 3 this in 2021 
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Now I  know why I forgot the 2010 season, the squad is a list of very forgettable names.

Hard to blame Green, seriously take a look at our 2010 squad.
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tony v_1 - 26 Aug 2020 5:29 PM
Apparently Blake green will miss 7 to 9 months for his 
ACL so our 2020 season is over in September & that means
green won’t be back till around may so he will miss 2 or 3 this in 2021 

I hope we also sign Burton, or at least one other player with a good kicking game.
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tony v_1 - 26 Aug 2020 3:50 PM
Bulldogs have signed Blake green for 2021 on a 1 year deal
as keiran forans replacement good start he has a acl injury 
how desperate is this club a 34 year old 

Bwahahaha at hack grub germoulist types... and the pricks on a certain leagues club board feeding them with shit to garner favour and destabilise...

Another signing they didn’t predict despite stating his career would be over and also having linked us to every player but one we’ve signed....

#fvckinghacks...


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’we’ve all had covid, and we can’t change that, but we can change the future’... 

Dirty dirty dirty coviders with their just a sniffle and just a cough... I think the dirty people who’ve had Covid should be sent to an island... There’s not enough data to prove the Covid isn’t laying dormant under their grubby fingernails and they won’t spread it again in 11 months time...

And before u start I’m not a coviphobe...

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Winx like odds for the raiders... yet they are the happy clappers... the Stewarts should be called in...
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tony v_1 - 26 Aug 2020 5:29 PM
Apparently Blake green will miss 7 to 9 months for his 
ACL so our 2020 season is over in September & that means
green won’t be back till around may so he will miss 2 or 3 this in 2021 

Most likely be back in time for the start of the season. May is worst case scenario.

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