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hounddog - 25 Sep 2020 5:10 PM

The coaches also help attract good players.

1. Perhaps they have been coached by one of the guys before.
2. They know someone who has.

Looking at the available talent, Hetherington, Salior and Townsend are good candidates.
After that we need a hooker and a centre...

We have the coaches, the spaces and the cash, 1 or 2 good signings will get the ball rolling.

Looks like we’re a good shot at getting Hetherington. He’s publically knocked back Manly and The Warriors but tellingly hasn’t said the same about us and Penrith won’t stand in his way of a longer contract elsewhere.

I really like him. Admittedly has anger issues but I love anger issues. He’s the sort of prop I think it was The Wok was referring to when he said a club needs six props, 2 playing, 2 reserves and 2 suspended.

The bloke’s a killer.

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Micko - 25 Sep 2020 3:55 PM
I am trying to be optimistic about the Barrett signing. I like the guy, always wanted him playing for us. But he was terrible at Manly. Obviously he has Penrith playing well but he isn’t head coach. I’m having huge doubts already. 

If we sign a good hooker, halfback, fullback and prop it may change my concerns. But the players we currently have aren’t walking into other teams. And we lack strike players, smart players and some mongrel. 

Just watch the Cowboys last night, they made such easy meters and looked sharp from dummy half and out wide. We aren’t close to them and they finished 14th. That’s just one rung up the ladder.  

Obviously we don’t have the team yet, signings are desperately needed. But is that all that’s needed? 

Sorry about the pessimistic comments. But I’m struggling to see the light at the end of the tunnel


The Cows no 9 Cotter was excellent.
 9,7 and 1 are critical positions, our side has been lacking in these positions and prop, it is fairly accurate to say we have been lacking everywhere, but these are the biggest issues.

When I look at the players we have let go, the club has that part right.

It isn't just Barrett, the coaching team looks good, and Barrett has some experienced support.

Barrett made some mistakes at Manly, he has admitted that.
The Turbos like him and were disappointed when Manly punted him...

My take, he is probably a good coach who lost his way and had a bad season...

No one could have predicted the Broncos spoon, prior to this season many thought Seibold was a good coach.
It is clear to me that the issue at the Broncos is recruitment and retention, also players playing out of position and standards slipping.

That started when Bennett bought Boyd back to Brisbane and shifted Milford from fullback, the club has been struggling to work out what to do with Milford and Boyd ever since. They also don't have many mobile high work rate forwards and their organization and kicking game is worse than ours.

The only surprise is that we stayed in the race for the spoon for so long. Smarter coaching from the Dogs would have seen the Broncos claims the spoon, 3-5 weeks earlier.

That is my other take, coaching was a big problem for us this season.... hence a big opportunity for improvement.
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Zef - 25 Sep 2020 5:36 PM
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Looks like we’re a good shot at getting Hetherington. He’s publically knocked back Manly and The Warriors but tellingly hasn’t said the same about us and Penrith won’t stand in his way of a longer contract elsewhere.

I really like him. Admittedly has anger issues but I love anger issues. He’s the sort of prop I think it was The Wok was referring to when he said a club needs six props, 2 playing, 2 reserves and 2 suspended.

The bloke’s a killer.

Exactly what we need.... a prop with passion provides leadership, and fires up the others....

The occasional suspension doesn't bother me, it is part of the territory.
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Micko - 25 Sep 2020 3:55 PM
I am trying to be optimistic about the Barrett signing. I like the guy, always wanted him playing for us. But he was terrible at Manly. Obviously he has Penrith playing well but he isn’t head coach. I’m having huge doubts already. 

If we sign a good hooker, halfback, fullback and prop it may change my concerns. But the players we currently have aren’t walking into other teams. And we lack strike players, smart players and some mongrel. 

Just watch the Cowboys last night, they made such easy meters and looked sharp from dummy half and out wide. We aren’t close to them and they finished 14th. That’s just one rung up the ladder.  

Obviously we don’t have the team yet, signings are desperately needed. But is that all that’s needed? 

Sorry about the pessimistic comments. But I’m struggling to see the light at the end of the tunnel


I share your sentiments but the way Cows played yesterday was winning rugby league. Its top 4 rugby league.

Their issue is consistency and hence reason why they came 14th. They've had afew too many games where they looked as bad the Broncos. 

We are a much more consistent and stable team, but we cant play like them. We need to change our ways and aim to play like them with the consistency of us. 
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hounddog - 25 Sep 2020 5:56 PM
Zef - 25 Sep 2020 5:36 PM

Exactly what we need.... a prop with passion provides leadership, and fires up the others....

The occasional suspension doesn't bother me, it is part of the territory.

Still need to be smart.  Beware the loading for previous offences.
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Marki - 25 Sep 2020 6:33 PM
Micko - 25 Sep 2020 3:55 PM

They've had afew too many games where they looked as bad the Broncos. 

As if you watched a few cowboys games...


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Marki - 25 Sep 2020 6:33 PM
Micko - 25 Sep 2020 3:55 PM

I share your sentiments but the way Cows played yesterday was winning rugby league. Its top 4 rugby league.

Their issue is consistency and hence reason why they came 14th. They've had afew too many games where they looked as bad the Broncos. 

We are a much more consistent and stable team, but we cant play like them. We need to change our ways and aim to play like them with the consistency of us. 

The Cowboys forwards have played that same way all year. Have you watched any of their games? Huge meters from a great forward pack. 

The difference was their halves combined well and their backs held onto the ball. 


Our forwards can not make those tackle breaks or meters. We desperately need hard running forwards. Thompson is the only one at the moment. 

Our halves have no feel for the game and our backs look slow. 

I agree consistency is the Cows problem. They have a good team. Much better than ours. But that was my point. If we don’t sign some very good meter eating forwards and a hooker to provide them room to make those meters we are in for another bottom four finish 

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Losing to us was the boot up the bum the bunnies needed, Panthers should try something similar.
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Graham no try?  I think they should have taken the referee from the bunker and left the player in.
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The bunker must go
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Annersley can and will make as many excuses for his referees as he wants but at the end if the day the onfield and bunker refereeing is as sh!t as it ever has been.
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Mooloolabadog - 25 Sep 2020 8:32 PM
Graham no try?  I think they should have taken the referee from the bunker and left the player in.

Why wasn’t the Roosters player sent 10 mins to the bin? Does Politis have a secret Bat phone to the bunker ? 😜
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On our most recent form and taking a form line through these top teams, you could argue we're the best team in the comp.
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Mooloolabadog - 25 Sep 2020 9:18 PM
On our most recent form and taking a form line through these top teams, you could argue we're the best team in the comp.

Or the Roosters are the worst team in the comp.

We are running 2nd last and beat the Bunnies, Bunnies are flogging the Chooks.... Hard to watch 😁
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It has to be the playing style, or Tols is already playing for the Chooks.... Sack the coach.
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Leagues self proclaimed ‘greatest mind’ and ‘expert’ is conspicuously absent tonight..,
Tears and lube don’t mix...
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Great to see the Roosters smashed, even with some disgustingly bad decisions go their way. What a fun night for the neutral!
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Micko - 25 Sep 2020 8:18 PM
Marki - 25 Sep 2020 6:33 PM

Have you watched any of their games?


Micko quickly becoming my favourite BDP member... 
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Did someone say the South’s halves were over-rated? As a pair they’re the best in the comp, end of. And Cody Walker just played the best game of any this year.

That’s why they’re a chance. And if you’re betting the best value you’ll get.
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Zef - 25 Sep 2020 10:04 PM
Did someone say the South’s halves were over-rated? As a pair they’re the best in the comp, end of. And Cody Walker just played the best game of any this year.

That’s why they’re a chance. And if you’re betting the best value you’ll get.

I’ll stick my hand up for that comment... one sunny day don’t make a summer though...
Brilliant performance nonetheless...
Ill back myself and and call them to get beaten by the WLWLWL knights next week... 


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dman2018 - 25 Sep 2020 10:10 PM

I’ll stick my hand up for that comment... one sunny day don’t make a summer though...
Brilliant performance nonetheless...
Ill back myself and and call them to get beaten by the WLWLWL knights next week... 


Brave call. After a bad one.

Much more than a “sunny day”.

Souths are where they are on the backs of Walker and Reynolds. Backs are slightly above the mean. Forwards apart from Cook, Murray and sometimes Burgess hold their own at best.

It’s Reynolds and Walker that make the difference.


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Kamaryn - 25 Sep 2020 10:00 PM
Great to see the Roosters smashed, even with some disgustingly bad decisions go their way. What a fun night for the neutral!

Couldn’t have happened to a nicer team ...
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Zef - 25 Sep 2020 10:19 PM
dman2018 - 25 Sep 2020 10:10 PM

Brave call. After a bad one.

Much more than a “sunny day”.

Souths are where they are on the backs of Walker and Reynolds. Backs are slightly above the mean. Forwards apart from Cook, Murray and sometimes Burgess hold their own at best.

It’s Reynolds and Walker that make the difference.


As in the main over the years you’re more  likely right, but I gotta stick to my guns... 
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dman2018 - 25 Sep 2020 10:27 PM
Zef - 25 Sep 2020 10:19 PM

As in the main over the years you’re more  likely right, but I gotta stick to my guns... 

Though if they do win the comp I’ll be talking about how I said they wouldn’t win the comp with Loltrell at fullback... ;)
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Zef, U reckon they get the origin gig as a combo with Cook???...
Rey Rey would have been there with them last year but fir the injury...
Keary misses out if the case...

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dman2018 - 25 Sep 2020 10:27 PM

As in the main over the years you’re more  likely right, but I gotta stick to my guns... 

Well what do you think after watching them tonight. Particularly Walker?

Still over-rated?

I’d only consider them over-rated if someone said they were the best pair in the history of the game. But the best this year - fair rating. Can they win a comp on their own? - yes they can. Will they? - Get to the GF and I’d back them against anyone... if they get to the GF.

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dman2018 - 25 Sep 2020 10:34 PM
Zef, U reckon they get the origin gig as a combo with Cook???...
Rey Rey would have been there with them last year but fir the injury...
Keary misses out if the case...

They’ll pick Keary. As good a form as Walker’s been in, Keary’s got years under his belt, and 3 Premierships.

He can’t be denied.
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Villa win ☑️
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Rorters smashed ☑️
Fwit Klemmers Knights smashed ☑️

Been a great past few days so far...


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Villi - 25 Sep 2020 11:13 PM
Villa win ☑️
Broncos spoon ☑️
Rorters smashed ☑️
Fwit Klemmers Knights smashed ☑️

Been a great past few days so far...


God works in mysterious ways ...
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Caravan park on the water now a car park.  New pub Mooloolaba just down the road.  Close to the old location but very second rate outlook.



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