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dman2018 - 20 Jan 2021 6:06 PM
The best thing about the result is it means it’s the end of the series and we don’t have to put up with Mockviz know nothing posts about cricket, and the other know nothing liking those posts...

Caveat being we now have to deal with a similar issue for 30 weeks on N’VL...

Cant wait for the first post stating we need 17 Ben Barbas...

:)

Actually 11 Ben Barbas is the new aussie pace attack 😁
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Mooloolabadog - 18 Jan 2021 9:36 PM
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I just think we were too conservative.  We didn't push the run rate, we didn't declare so God knows how long we would have batted if we didn't get out.  

It’s a delicate balancing act time vs runs... I think we tried to up the run rate but weren’t able to make it happen... Labs and Wades get out shots a sign of that...
We we’re always gonna give ourselves 2 new balls...
With the exception of Cummings we bowled poorly on day 5, and had no plans...
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dman2018 - 21 Jan 2021 8:15 AM
Mooloolabadog - 18 Jan 2021 9:36 PM
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Mooloolabadog - 18 Jan 2021 9:36 PM

It’s a delicate balancing act time vs runs... I think we tried to up the run rate but weren’t able to make it happen... Labs and Wades get out shots a sign of that...
We we’re always gonna give ourselves 2 new balls...
With the exception of Cummings we bowled poorly on day 5, and had no plans...

Not Wades sorry...



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dman2018 - 21 Jan 2021 8:15 AM
Mooloolabadog - 18 Jan 2021 9:36 PM

It’s a delicate balancing act time vs runs... I think we tried to up the run rate but weren’t able to make it happen... Labs and Wades get out shots a sign of that...
We we’re always gonna give ourselves 2 new balls...
With the exception of Cummings we bowled poorly on day 5, and had no plans...

I'm not going off stats and only my recent memory here.... but I feel that Australia seems to rely heavily on getting out batsmen who are chasing the ball (caught or playing on)  rather than cleaned bowled or LBW. 

I feel the subcontinent teams target the stumps more - probably due to the pitches they predominantly play on.

One the major side effects of trying to get batsmen out by chasing the ball outside the line is that in defensive mode (Indians in Test 3 and 4) it is futile. The Indians showed great composure and patience to leave all those deliveries and play only high percentage defensive shots on the straighter ones.

Our bowlers (and tactics) just failed to adapt to the situation awareness needed at the back end of both these Test matches and were found out badly. 

If anything, Paine needed to instruct the bowlers to keep it straight or try something from left field, something the Indians were not use to.

The aussies continually bowling outside the line and looking for cracks in pitch or mistakes from the batsmen was akin to Des hoping for a 90% completion rate even if his team is getting flogged by 30..... 




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The West Ham fans have Post Match Pint with 4 fans discussing the game on YouTube.

Due to our exceptional good looks Villi, Dman and I are a walk up start.

We then have:-

With Zef - Post Match Piss Up.
With Steve - Post Match Ponderings
With Marki - Post Match Punch Up.

The lads have a goood vocab of swear words the ref is always the F'n ref and rightly so.
So we will need to match that fine example.
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Marki - 21 Jan 2021 9:11 AM
dman2018 - 21 Jan 2021 8:15 AM

I'm not going off stats and only my recent memory here.... but I feel that Australia seems to rely heavily on getting out batsmen who are chasing the ball (caught or playing on)  rather than cleaned bowled or LBW. 

I feel the subcontinent teams target the stumps more - probably due to the pitches they predominantly play on.

One the major side effects of trying to get batsmen out by chasing the ball outside the line is that in defensive mode (Indians in Test 3 and 4) it is futile. The Indians showed great composure and patience to leave all those deliveries and play only high percentage defensive shots on the straighter ones.

Our bowlers (and tactics) just failed to adapt to the situation awareness needed at the back end of both these Test matches and were found out badly. 

If anything, Paine needed to instruct the bowlers to keep it straight or try something from left field, something the Indians were not use to.

The aussies continually bowling outside the line and looking for cracks in pitch or mistakes from the batsmen was akin to Des hoping for a 90% completion rate even if his team is getting flogged by 30..... 




Indians just drive it down the ground for 4 when bowlers pitch up and bowl straight.
Short and straight can be hit to many areas.
If there is seam, swing or spin they might miss.

Lyon was definitely too straight, that cost runs and the opportunity for wickets.
Stark was all over the place, but too often down leg side.

Lack of ability or execution isn't always due to tactics.
A lack of planning is, planning is setting the right field for each batsman and bowling in  the right place.
I saw zero evidence of any planning by the Australians and not much evidence Lyon and Stark were (on the day) capable of executing a plan.
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Have the wheels fallen off Liverpool FC?
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Marki - 22 Jan 2021 9:51 AM
Have the wheels fallen off Liverpool FC?

When did Des start coaching them?
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hounddog - 21 Jan 2021 2:38 PM
Marki - 21 Jan 2021 9:11 AM

Indians just drive it down the ground for 4 when bowlers pitch up and bowl straight.
Short and straight can be hit to many areas.
If there is seam, swing or spin they might miss.

Lyon was definitely too straight, that cost runs and the opportunity for wickets.
Stark was all over the place, but too often down leg side.

Lack of ability or execution isn't always due to tactics.
A lack of planning is, planning is setting the right field for each batsman and bowling in  the right place.
I saw zero evidence of any planning by the Australians and not much evidence Lyon and Stark were (on the day) capable of executing a plan.

I think the pitches played into India's hands...2 reasons...they weren't as bowler friendly first up and never detiorated as perhaps history would have suggested. That played into India's hands. Their bowlers bowled stump to stump whereas the Aussies fell into the old trap of bowling too short.. Not quite sub continent conditions but closer than to the historical Aussie pitches. Have to admire them though. Starc was particularly annoying. Someone should staple a bit of paper on his fekking forehead...you are the best over the wicket yorker bowler in the game. Still thought he could have come on for the last over and attempted to do just that.
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Marki - 22 Jan 2021 9:51 AM
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When did Des start coaching them?

Probably one day before they started losing.
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Not even Des could make soccer more boring..,
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dman2018 - 22 Jan 2021 9:29 PM
Not even Des could make soccer more boring..,

You need to cut down to just watching 4 games a night #SoccerOverload.

Try watching AFL before Soccer, you will really appreciate soccer.
 
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Imagine Des coaching F1 racing, all cars would breakdown before they got to the starting grid.

Drivers would be pushing the cars around the track with no one steering. Just like #DesBall.
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hounddog - 22 Jan 2021 9:42 PM
Imagine Des coaching F1 racing, all cars would breakdown before they got to the starting grid.

Drivers would be pushing the cars around the track with no one steering. Just like #DesBall.

If you can stay on the track for 90% of the time, Des would be happy.

It doesn't matter if you get lapped 5 times by the leader, as long as you can hit that 90% target.....
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So Big bash crocket local derby not on fta TV tonight???...
My disdain for ‘the product’ vindicated by CA and the broadcaster...
CA has absolutely killed the goose that laid and mortally wounded test cricket pathways in the process...
I may have to pass on the top job at the Dogs to fix this mess...
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dman2018 - 22 Jan 2021 10:55 PM
So Big bash crocket local derby not on fta TV tonight???...
My disdain for ‘the product’ vindicated by CA and the broadcaster...
CA has absolutely killed the goose that laid and mortally wounded test cricket pathways in the process...
I may have to pass on the top job at the Dogs to fix this mess...

They're going down the same road as the NRL.  Many matches exclusively for pay TV
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Mooloolabadog - 22 Jan 2021 11:19 PM
dman2018 - 22 Jan 2021 10:55 PM

They're going down the same road as the NRL.  Many matches exclusively for pay TV

Might be Trump TVs first big target in Aus...
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dman2018 - 22 Jan 2021 10:55 PM
So Big bash crocket local derby not on fta TV tonight???...
My disdain for ‘the product’ vindicated by CA and the broadcaster...
CA has absolutely killed the goose that laid and mortally wounded test cricket pathways in the process...
I may have to pass on the top job at the Dogs to fix this mess...

8 hours drinking.
8 hours dogs.
8 hours cricket.

You don't need sleep.
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Hottest 200 crapping over the 100 so far...

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dman2018 - 24 Jan 2021 12:40 PM
Hottest 200 crapping over the 100 so far...

Yesterday’s highlight

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=7hOK5JF5XGA

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Anna in the house!!! Hope you’re great.
How do you think we’ll go this year???...
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dman2018 - 24 Jan 2021 12:48 PM
Anna in the house!!! Hope you’re great.
How do you think we’ll go this year???...

HI there guys, Happy new year. I am pretty optimistic, not sure we will make the 8 but we shouldn't be top 4. Lots of positivity at the club, we are heading in the right direction
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dman2018 - 24 Jan 2021 12:48 PM

HI there guys, Happy new year. I am pretty optimistic, not sure we will make the 8 but we shouldn't be top 4. Lots of positivity at the club, we are heading in the right direction

Does this count as a negative post?

"Shouldn't be top 4"???

Markiviz has us at 45% for top 8....
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Marki - 24 Jan 2021 2:58 PM
annav1 - 24 Jan 2021 1:16 PM


Markiviz has us at 45% for top 8....

But there’s only a 10% chance of that now...
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dman2018 - 24 Jan 2021 3:09 PM
Marki - 24 Jan 2021 2:58 PM

But there’s only a 10% chance of that now...

LOL some things never change, Marki annoying everybody else.

Not negative realistic. I reckon only sharks to drop out of the 8 and the dymock/holbrook combo will see the ttians make the 8

Knights seem to be a bit of a troubled club and I could see them not making it either. Most of the teams outside of the 8 have had a coaching change. Can;t see any big improvers until 2022 when we will make the 8.

2024 we will win the comp
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annav1 - 24 Jan 2021 3:12 PM
dman2018 - 24 Jan 2021 3:09 PM

LOL some things never change, Marki annoying everybody else.

Not negative realistic. I reckon only sharks to drop out of the 8 and the dymock/holbrook combo will see the ttians make the 8

Knights seem to be a bit of a troubled club and I could see them not making it either. Most of the teams outside of the 8 have had a coaching change. Can;t see any big improvers until 2022 when we will make the 8.

2024 we will win the comp

Should be able to give two likes for that post... one each for the fist and last sentences...
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annav1 - 24 Jan 2021 3:12 PM
dman2018 - 24 Jan 2021 3:09 PM

LOL some things never change, Marki annoying everybody else.

Not negative realistic. I reckon only sharks to drop out of the 8 and the dymock/holbrook combo will see the ttians make the 8

Knights seem to be a bit of a troubled club and I could see them not making it either. Most of the teams outside of the 8 have had a coaching change. Can;t see any big improvers until 2022 when we will make the 8.

2024 we will win the comp

Great to see you back Anna





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I actually think it will be sooner than 2024. We will possibly make the 8 this year and I can see the end of season highlight reels showing a lot of Jake Avarillo.
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ODF - 24 Jan 2021 8:52 PM
I actually think it will be sooner than 2024. We will possibly make the 8 this year and I can see the end of season highlight reels showing a lot of Jake Avarillo.

As much as I would like to see us compete for the title sooner, I think Anna is on the money and it will be 2024 when we have the team to give it a mighty shot.
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Can someone explain to me why sports players are taking the knee again?

Did another black person die in the hands of law enforcement or something? Did the players do any research to confirm no white man died in the hands of law enforcement during this time?

Or does that not count?



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