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Lifting tackle on walker a penalty, on report???... Souths must be on the back foot... Stay out of the game you fvcking clueless game managing fvckers...
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dman2018
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+xLifting tackle on walker a penalty, on report???... Souths must be on the back foot... Stay out of the game you fvcking clueless game managing fvckers... Not dangerous in any way... a couple of degrees beyond the horizontal at most... like that is even an actual fvcking rule... NRLolC should be doing all it can and investing in young grade players that aren’t going to make a career of footy and turning them into refs... people with a feel for the game... The other they need to do is forget this managing games mandate and ref to the rules...
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dman2018
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The ref will know when it’s actually a dangerous tackle, cos team mates be running in from everywhere...
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+x+xThe are multiple reasons for 20 teams. - Expanding to new areas. - More attractive to broadcasters. - 2 more sunday afternoon games. I’d say one more Sun afternoon game 1 on Thurs 2 on Fri 3 on Sat 3 on Sun and..... Monday Night footy is back. 22 teams and we can do Tuesday 😁
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hounddog
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Tough game to pick, the Raiders are the better sude, but I am not confident that they will win.
Cam Murray out evens up the game.
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+x+xStorm been around for 23 years. Don't see much homegrown talent out of there. But a competition’s worth of development. They bring more players through from their teens in one year than we have in ten. More than one way to do junior development than just local juniors, in fact there’s better ways. I'm talking about increasing the pool
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+x+x+xWell targeted expansion also gets more kids playing the game in those areas. Clubs have an incentive to develop local talent. More clubs, more development. Storm been around for 23 years. Don't see much homegrown talent out of there. Melbourne is a hard market, but they have developed a few local juniors. Not that long ago NRL was only shown on TV late at night in Vic, times when kids were not watching. These days, kids watch a lot of YouTube and NRL is on YouTube. You can bet schools in Vic rarely play League, it is the hardest state in the country to crack. All of expansion areas have established league comps and a league / Union background. Saying we shouldn't expand due to a lack of talent is like saying we will never land a man on the moon. Start out convinced that failure is the only option and you are always right. Look for ways to do it, and they can always be found. They didn't go to the moon first then put all the structures to get there later.
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dman2018
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+x+x+x+xWell targeted expansion also gets more kids playing the game in those areas. Clubs have an incentive to develop local talent. More clubs, more development. Storm been around for 23 years. Don't see much homegrown talent out of there. Melbourne is a hard market, but they have developed a few local juniors. Not that long ago NRL was only shown on TV late at night in Vic, times when kids were not watching. These days, kids watch a lot of YouTube and NRL is on YouTube. You can bet schools in Vic rarely play League, it is the hardest state in the country to crack. All of expansion areas have established league comps and a league / Union background. Saying we shouldn't expand due to a lack of talent is like saying we will never land a man on the moon. Start out convinced that failure is the only option and you are always right. Look for ways to do it, and they can always be found. They didn't go to the moon Was all that post needed...
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What a toss this obstruction rule is.... Wighton catches the ball on inside shoulder of CHN who is fekking slipping and no one is impeded.
Yet some bright spark makes up a rule where you cant catch the ball on inside of a lead runner.
Forget if any player has been obstructed or not. Just focus on which shoulder you catch the ball on.
Why dont they just change the rule name from "obstruction" to "inside shoulder" ???
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hounddog
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+xWhat a toss this obstruction rule is.... Wighton catches the ball on inside shoulder of CHN who is fekking slipping and no one is impeded. Yet some bright spark makes up a rule where you cant catch the ball on inside of a lead runner. Forget if any player has been obstructed or not. Just focus on which shoulder you catch the ball on. Why dont they just change the rule name from "obstruction" to "inside shoulder" ??? The first one was worse .... But it was a decoy thst got in the way.... So if you are a decoy... get out of the way ....or back behind the ball.
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Mick O
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+x+x+x+xWell targeted expansion also gets more kids playing the game in those areas. Clubs have an incentive to develop local talent. More clubs, more development. Storm been around for 23 years. Don't see much homegrown talent out of there. Melbourne is a hard market, but they have developed a few local juniors. Not that long ago NRL was only shown on TV late at night in Vic, times when kids were not watching. These days, kids watch a lot of YouTube and NRL is on YouTube. You can bet schools in Vic rarely play League, it is the hardest state in the country to crack. All of expansion areas have established league comps and a league / Union background. Saying we shouldn't expand due to a lack of talent is like saying we will never land a man on the moon. Start out convinced that failure is the only option and you are always right. Look for ways to do it, and they can always be found. They didn't go to the moon first then put all the structures to get there later. What more structures do you want? Brisbane have the juniors. New Zealand have the juniors, might pry plenty from yawnion. Perth even have a strong local comp.
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Mick O
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+x+xWhat a toss this obstruction rule is.... Wighton catches the ball on inside shoulder of CHN who is fekking slipping and no one is impeded. Yet some bright spark makes up a rule where you cant catch the ball on inside of a lead runner. Forget if any player has been obstructed or not. Just focus on which shoulder you catch the ball on. Why dont they just change the rule name from "obstruction" to "inside shoulder" ??? The first one was worse .... But it was a decoy thst got in the way.... So if you are a decoy... get out of the way ....or back behind the ball. It’s tough though. It’s not easy to disappear. What was terrible is Benji deliberately grabbing the Canberra forward in the line. It’s blatantly cheating. Benji has always been a skilful player but abuses the rules and is soft as butter.
The ‘inside shoulder’ rule is easy for refs to adjudicate. As is the rule that ensures players don’t stand in the line. But because of these rules we will see players cheating by purposely jumping in the wrong spot to take advantage of the rule.
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Mooloolabadog
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+x+x+x+x+xWell targeted expansion also gets more kids playing the game in those areas. Clubs have an incentive to develop local talent. More clubs, more development. Storm been around for 23 years. Don't see much homegrown talent out of there. Melbourne is a hard market, but they have developed a few local juniors. Not that long ago NRL was only shown on TV late at night in Vic, times when kids were not watching. These days, kids watch a lot of YouTube and NRL is on YouTube. You can bet schools in Vic rarely play League, it is the hardest state in the country to crack. All of expansion areas have established league comps and a league / Union background. Saying we shouldn't expand due to a lack of talent is like saying we will never land a man on the moon. Start out convinced that failure is the only option and you are always right. Look for ways to do it, and they can always be found. They didn't go to the moon first then put all the structures to get there later. What more structures do you want? Brisbane have the juniors. New Zealand have the juniors, might pry plenty from yawnion. Perth even have a strong local comp. 5 teams in the Perth men's comp last year with one a winless basket case. U/16 four teams..
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Mooloolabadog
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+x+x+xWhat a toss this obstruction rule is.... Wighton catches the ball on inside shoulder of CHN who is fekking slipping and no one is impeded. Yet some bright spark makes up a rule where you cant catch the ball on inside of a lead runner. Forget if any player has been obstructed or not. Just focus on which shoulder you catch the ball on. Why dont they just change the rule name from "obstruction" to "inside shoulder" ??? The first one was worse .... But it was a decoy thst got in the way.... So if you are a decoy... get out of the way ....or back behind the ball. It’s tough though. It’s not easy to disappear. What was terrible is Benji deliberately grabbing the Canberra forward in the line. It’s blatantly cheating. Benji has always been a skilful player but abuses the rules and is soft as butter.
The ‘inside shoulder’ rule is easy for refs to adjudicate. As is the rule that ensures players don’t stand in the line. But because of these rules we will see players cheating by purposely jumping in the wrong spot to take advantage of the rule. Benji obviously could have avoided the situation if he wanted to. It's a difficult situation. When we had discretion there was an outcry about how the discretion was applied, now common sense is out the window. Don't know how we fix it. Maybe the decoys will just have to get smarter
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+x+x+xWhat a toss this obstruction rule is.... Wighton catches the ball on inside shoulder of CHN who is fekking slipping and no one is impeded. Yet some bright spark makes up a rule where you cant catch the ball on inside of a lead runner. Forget if any player has been obstructed or not. Just focus on which shoulder you catch the ball on. Why dont they just change the rule name from "obstruction" to "inside shoulder" ??? The first one was worse .... But it was a decoy thst got in the way.... So if you are a decoy... get out of the way ....or back behind the ball. It’s tough though. It’s not easy to disappear. What was terrible is Benji deliberately grabbing the Canberra forward in the line. It’s blatantly cheating. Benji has always been a skilful player but abuses the rules and is soft as butter.
The ‘inside shoulder’ rule is easy for refs to adjudicate. As is the rule that ensures players don’t stand in the line. But because of these rules we will see players cheating by purposely jumping in the wrong spot to take advantage of the rule. Cant argue with the Benji one. If he was prevented from making a play on Wighton (which he was) then fair call, it's an obstruction. But the second one where the canberra forward slipped, didnt seem to obstruct anyone. So I find it irrelevant where Wighton caught the ball. If anything, the slipped player forced Wighton to change direction but when Wighton got to the defence line (which was moving across field in cover) there didnt seem to be any obstruction. He just hit the gap and scored. Maybe the camera angle did not show the full thing but Cooper Cronk in the fox commentary said he thought it was a try on first impression and when they replayed it, his focus was on where the ball the caught rather than if anyone was obstructed. Like I said, it's no longer an obstruction rule. Its am inside shoulder rule
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Zef
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Members forum last night... I wasn't there... but I've trawled the net for some info.
Usual motherhood statements but some interesting specifics:
Tom said Paul Alamoti shows more skill than Crichton did at the same age and is likely to be in the team for round 1 next year.
After Round 10, Tom will be blooding young guns who've earned the shot in NRL.
Future recruitment will be based on filling the gaps as the club feels we have great youth coming through all grades.
Easts and The Dogs have entered an informal "hands off" agreement unless it's mutually agreed.
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Also we're working with a lobby group about a stadium in the Bankstown - Liverpool corridor. Tony Burke (Labor NSW) is a club patron and is working with the club in some capacity re the stadium lobbying and sponsorship and David Littleproud (NATS Qld) is also a club patron working on QLD sponsorship opportunities.
Tom assured everyone Burton is coming next year and Whatsisname the Panthers Chairman is just blowing it out his arse. No approach from Panthers to Burton or the Dogs, no second thoughts or doubts from Burton and Tom talks to him regularly.
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Dogs have been pounding PVL about being "unfairly" hammered re the 6 again rule, Tom sends in a dossier every Monday. PVL has agreed we've copped some bad ones and responded there needs to be more ref clarification and accountability in it's application.
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Steve Hanson has been mostly working with Tom via Zoom. Now that the bubble is open he's coming to Sydney to work also with The Board.
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There's gonna be a lot of "departing players" and it will be handled with respect and honesty.
Cleanout coming.
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Zef
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Someone took a photo of Tom, and his hair looks deadset silver, hope it was the lights.
Not the hair!!!
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We are being approached by player managers offering talent.
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My guess regarding the stadium, is that all parties are aiming for The Crest. There’s facilities already there, space a plenty, main roads, bus routes and a bit of a gap in Sydney stadium placements... as is Liverpool too I suppose but my gut tells me Crest.
It’ll only be a small one 15-20k. Perfect.
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The Zef chronicles. Lots of posts, lots of info. Thanks Zef. It looks like the Dogs are finally looking to the future in a sensible fashion.
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+xAlso we're working with a lobby group about a stadium in the Bankstown - Liverpool corridor. Tony Burke (Labor NSW) is a club patron and is working with the club in some capacity re the stadium lobbying and sponsorship and David Littleproud (NATS Qld) is also a club patron working on QLD sponsorship opportunities. Tom assured everyone Burton is coming next year and Whatsisname the Panthers Chairman is just blowing it out his arse. No approach from Panthers to Burton or the Dogs, no second thoughts or doubts from Burton and Tom talks to him regularly. I hope he said exactly that to the Panthers' Chairman...Tony Grieg style for good measure
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+xI hope he said exactly that to the Panthers' Chairman...Tony Grieg style for good measure Blow ot out yorr orse.
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+x+xI hope he said exactly that to the Panthers' Chairman...Tony Grieg style for good measure Blow ot out yorr orse. You got it!...when the 12th Man was really good he was hard to beat...could play The Final Dig 3 times a week and not get tired of it....all the greats in one...Bill, Tony and Darryl Eastlake.AND Hanse Cronje AND Martin Crowe...
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Having more teams should actually help talent distribution, making the game fairer. For instance, it would be much harder for Melbourne to keep their spine of Munster, Smith, Grant, Papenhuyzen if there are more clubs with marquee wage spots to compete for them. Sure, there will always been some willingness for players to take a paycut to stay at a great side, but not when you are talking hundreds of thousands of dollars a season. If teams 17-20 come in and have the usual 2 or so marquee wage earners each, then the star players of existing leading clubs will definitely get spread out more.
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Kamaryn
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+xAlso we're working with a lobby group about a stadium in the Bankstown - Liverpool corridor. Tony Burke (Labor NSW) is a club patron and is working with the club in some capacity re the stadium lobbying and sponsorship and David Littleproud (NATS Qld) is also a club patron working on QLD sponsorship opportunities. Freaking Oasis project! Imagine where we could have been.
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+xMembers forum last night... I wasn't there... but I've trawled the net for some info. Usual motherhood statements but some interesting specifics: Tom said Paul Alamoti shows more skill than Crichton did at the same age and is likely to be in the team for round 1 next year. After Round 10, Tom will be blooding young guns who've earned the shot in NRL. Future recruitment will be based on filling the gaps as the club feels we have great youth coming through all grades. Easts and The Dogs have entered an informal "hands off" agreement unless it's mutually agreed. Thanks Zef, Great info. Alamoti and Naden would give us great strike in the centres. Add Cotric, The Fox and IMO Meaney that is a good backline. Perhaps Okunbour on the wing if The Fox is fullback. We have Flanagan, Burton, Averillo and Wakeham contending for halves spots. Jayden Sua at Souths is off contract and is a good backrower. We need to find some props and a hooker, but the squad for 22 is shaping up nicely.
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