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Marki - 25 Jun 2021 11:48 PM
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I think you underestimate how good a footy brain Munster and Hughes have. Hughes is one of the most underrated halfs in the comp. 
Paps is all talent atm with abit of footy brain but he is still young and will harness it over time. 
B Smith is all talent and desire. 

Just because some of these guys are larikins doesnt mean they dont have footy brains. 

Gutherson and DCE are also larikins but both have exceptional footy nous.

Keeping doing demolition sooner or later, you end up with a pile of rubble.

The last strong team we had was 2002-2004, they won inspite of the coaching and in particular the admin being a shambles.

2005-2020, we have had lots of politics, board tickets, sacking coaches, desperate quick fixes and recruitment of so called star players, the results speak for themselves.

We have to rebuild our way and stop thinking that more demolition is a quick fix.

I think the current board, CEO and coach are at least competent, it is 20 years since I have been able to believe that.

We need to replace some players with better options and not make a mess of the salary cap.

The last good spine we have had in 2004, Noddy was a short term fix, will past his best. Barba was a short term sensation, that ultimately went off the rails.

While not great Ennis was way better than any of our recent options.

A good board, CEO and coach make the right decisions, we need to trust them.
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ODF - 26 Jun 2021 9:19 AM
Zef, anyone who understands the true vastness of the universe yet thinks that the only lifeforms in existance are unique to this planet are very narrow minded indeed. You mentioned earlier that you believe that life does exist elsewhere but the distances involved for physical travel would be prohibitive. What do you think about dimensional travel to explain their existance.

For one reason or another excessive wrestle was tolerated for far too long and the Storm were not the only club doing it.

Personally, I don't value premierships 2010-2017 that hightly, in simple terms, the best cheat won and very little real footy was played. Many trys were borderline obstructions and the ref tossing a coin to decide would bot have surpised me.
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hounddog - 26 Jun 2021 10:04 AM
Marki - 25 Jun 2021 11:48 PM

Keeping doing demolition sooner or later, you end up with a pile of rubble.

The last strong team we had was 2002-2004, they won inspite of the coaching and in particular the admin being a shambles.

2005-2020, we have had lots of politics, board tickets, sacking coaches, desperate quick fixes and recruitment of so called star players, the results speak for themselves.

We have to rebuild our way and stop thinking that more demolition is a quick fix.

I think the current board, CEO and coach are at least competent, it is 20 years since I have been able to believe that.

We need to replace some players with better options and not make a mess of the salary cap.

The last good spine we have had in 2004, Noddy was a short term fix, will past his best. Barba was a short term sensation, that ultimately went off the rails.

While not great Ennis was way better than any of our recent options.

A good board, CEO and coach make the right decisions, we need to trust them.

And a spoonful of sugar!!!,..
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ODF - 26 Jun 2021 9:19 AM
Zef, anyone who understands the true vastness of the universe yet thinks that the only lifeforms in existance are unique to this planet are very narrow minded indeed. You mentioned earlier that you believe that life does exist elsewhere but the distances involved for physical travel would be prohibitive. What do you think about dimensional travel to explain their existance.

It’s all very interesting.

I’ve said before I believe in intelligent life in the universe, but not so much UFO’s given the distances and time involved, on top of why come here and act so… sneakily, once they’ve arrived.

But given the U.S military is taking them seriously I may have to re think it.

Brian Cox, who’s a deep thinker on Comet Theory, has a similar opinion to mine. He believes there is, has been and will be intelligent species in the universe, but we’ll never know given the distance and time thing. He notes we’ve never been visited by probes, which should be out there having traveled for billions of years, and yet they’re yet to reach us.

But….


Maybe these UAP things are the probes he talks about? Just machines following programmed commands?

Anyway….

There’s a school of thought that if we ever manage to obtain a means of travel across, hundreds, thousands, billions of light years we’re more likely to discover evidence of extinct intelligent races, or races who’ve abandoned the physical realm for a higher immortal plane, than we are to discover current intelligent races.

The distances and time is something we don’t quite get our heads around. A billion races could’ve evolved, extinguished, re-evolved, left the mortal realms a billion times over and yet be so far away or so far back in time we’ll never even come across a shred of evidence they ever existed.

Or maybe we will.

A trillion to one shot is short odds to time and space.


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hounddog - 26 Jun 2021 10:04 AM
Marki - 25 Jun 2021 11:48 PM

Keeping doing demolition sooner or later, you end up with a pile of rubble.

The last strong team we had was 2002-2004, they won inspite of the coaching and in particular the admin being a shambles.

2005-2020, we have had lots of politics, board tickets, sacking coaches, desperate quick fixes and recruitment of so called star players, the results speak for themselves.

We have to rebuild our way and stop thinking that more demolition is a quick fix.

I think the current board, CEO and coach are at least competent, it is 20 years since I have been able to believe that.

We need to replace some players with better options and not make a mess of the salary cap.

The last good spine we have had in 2004, Noddy was a short term fix, will past his best. Barba was a short term sensation, that ultimately went off the rails.

While not great Ennis was way better than any of our recent options.

A good board, CEO and coach make the right decisions, we need to trust them.

Steve Hanson makes a good point about our two year Board elections, he was shocked by them. He makes the point that bi-annual elections means that by the second year the board’s concentrating more on getting re-elected and so are unwilling to make long term decisions because there’s not enough time to see the fruits of them.

It’s up to the members to change the constitution, and perhaps on the back oh Hanson’s recommendation it’ll be put to them, and it should, and it should be changed.

Four year terms.

EGM’s are still in the back pocket if they need to be played for EXTRAORDINARY circumstances.
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Zef - 26 Jun 2021 9:05 AM
That U.S report into UAP’s I was talking about has been released. And while as ambiguous as you’d expect a Gov committee report to be, it’s also unequivocal about what these things are not.

They are not weather phenomena, birds, camera artefacts, sunspots or, and this part’s important - secret U.S technology. Or any other known illusionary phenomena. They are solid three dimensional… things.

The only things not ruled out are either technology from other nations who’s development over several decades were not detected by U.S intelligence services.

Or, of other unknown origins.

Didnt rule out God did they?
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ODF - 26 Jun 2021 9:10 AM
You can talk all you want about coaches and intelligent footballers and footy nous. That's all well and good, but there is also a little bit of "divine intervention" from the NRLol. Take the storm as an example....Good side..tick...Good coach......tick....plenty of 'footy nous'....tick... BUT, the team is is the AFL heartland and if they were to underperform those that have a local interest would soon get lost to the game. The same would be said of a team based in Adelaide or even Perth, so the NRLol must apply the rule of "reasonable adjustment" to a team such as the storm. I believe that if there was such a thing as a true "level playing field" some of these spectacularly successful clubs would look rather pedestrian against the rest of the competition.

For 20 years ODF?
Cmon...... they were given the rub of the green for about 5...maybe 10 years from 1997.
The rest needs to be credited to them and them only. 
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Zef - 26 Jun 2021 10:28 AM
hounddog - 26 Jun 2021 10:04 AM

Steve Hanson makes a good point about our two year Board elections, he was shocked by them. He makes the point that bi-annual elections means that by the second year the board’s concentrating more on getting re-elected and so are unwilling to make long term decisions because there’s not enough time to see the fruits of them.

It’s up to the members to change the constitution, and perhaps on the back oh Hanson’s recommendation it’ll be put to them, and it should, and it should be changed.

Four year terms.

EGM’s are still in the back pocket if they need to be played for EXTRAORDINARY circumstances.

Agree on this point.

Results on the footy field have far less to do with boards and much more to do with coaching and player talent.

You can swap boards like shirts and it wont affect much. But swapping the on-field stuff can make a considerable difference.
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Marki - 26 Jun 2021 11:08 AM
Zef - 26 Jun 2021 9:05 AM

Didnt rule out God did they?

Climate lockdown or alien lockdown... Which comes first??? 
Is it foretold in the scriptures or perhaps ancient cave paintings???.... Is it the devil at work???... 
The one thing I can tell u is, that I have enormous faith the US Military\Govt are telling us the truth... and they absolutely believe in God...
#Praisebe

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To summarise:

144 credible sightings by U.S Service personnel since 2004 investigated.
143 of those remain unexplained.
No evidence of extra-terrestrial life or technological breakthrough by foreign adversary, though neither is ruled out.
18 includes potentially advanced technology the U.S can’t understand.
11 near misses with gov aircraft.


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The thing is, if they are so far technically advanced that they have vehicles that can travel interstellar distances then they may have easily conquered time, space and dimensional barriers eeons ago. 
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Marki - 26 Jun 2021 11:11 AM
ODF - 26 Jun 2021 9:10 AM

For 20 years ODF?
Cmon...... they were given the rub of the green for about 5...maybe 10 years from 1997.
The rest needs to be credited to them and them only. 

Hey Marki, what happens if you stop servicing your car. Yeah it eventually claps out ..totally. Mate the NRLol have to be continually aware of the Victoria/AFL situation and therefore would have to offer a lifetime of care and nuturing for them or that franchise would die a natural death. 
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Zef, I know it may sound like something from a DC or Marvel comic book but we don't even know if it's one race or a confederation of races that have banded together and are watching our progress regarding our ability to harness and use atomic power as well as our progress with space travel. If you were an alien race and have had been threatened before by some fvckwit warlike species that only advanced technologically and not socially then human beings would fit nicely into that category. FFS we can't even get on with each other without some sort of conflict somewhere so how would we go if we escaped out into the cosmos.


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Hotspots and now Warm spots!!!... Human generated Covid 19 is changing the climate!!... 
Sell your Bitcoin... Run for your lives!!!.... 
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Zef - 26 Jun 2021 10:20 AM
ODF - 26 Jun 2021 9:19 AM

It’s all very interesting.

I’ve said before I believe in intelligent life in the universe, but not so much UFO’s given the distances and time involved, on top of why come here and act so… sneakily, once they’ve arrived.

But given the U.S military is taking them seriously I may have to re think it.

Brian Cox, who’s a deep thinker on Comet Theory, has a similar opinion to mine. He believes there is, has been and will be intelligent species in the universe, but we’ll never know given the distance and time thing. He notes we’ve never been visited by probes, which should be out there having traveled for billions of years, and yet they’re yet to reach us.

But….


Maybe these UAP things are the probes he talks about? Just machines following programmed commands?

Anyway….

There’s a school of thought that if we ever manage to obtain a means of travel across, hundreds, thousands, billions of light years we’re more likely to discover evidence of extinct intelligent races, or races who’ve abandoned the physical realm for a higher immortal plane, than we are to discover current intelligent races.

The distances and time is something we don’t quite get our heads around. A billion races could’ve evolved, extinguished, re-evolved, left the mortal realms a billion times over and yet be so far away or so far back in time we’ll never even come across a shred of evidence they ever existed.

Or maybe we will.

A trillion to one shot is short odds to time and space.


The Bokeh effect. The pentagon confirmed many times that this is the reason behind the ‘UAP’s. They are simply staying very quiet now. The only people talking are currently not working within the Pentagon because they have been let go fir their delusional view points. 

It is unlikely that we have been visited for many reasons you have already addressed. The time/distance is simply to great.

I’ll add that it is likely that other life exists in the universe however the chance it has evolved to become intelligent enough to travel the great distances is unlikely. Simply through probability. You ever heard of the monkey who wrote the complete works of Shakespeare? Or the Joker in the room with you when he did? Fantastic theoretical arguments you must read. 

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Micko - 26 Jun 2021 1:55 PM
Zef - 26 Jun 2021 10:20 AM

The Bokeh effect. The pentagon confirmed many times that this is the reason behind the ‘UAP’s. They are simply staying very quiet now. The only people talking are currently not working within the Pentagon because they have been let go fir their delusional view points. 

It is unlikely that we have been visited for many reasons you have already addressed. The time/distance is simply to great.

I’ll add that it is likely that other life exists in the universe however the chance it has evolved to become intelligent enough to travel the great distances is unlikely. Simply through probability. You ever heard of the monkey who wrote the complete works of Shakespeare? Or the Joker in the room with you when he did? Fantastic theoretical arguments you must read. 

The monkey writing Shakespeare is true on this planet, but we'd never know about another planet, somewhere that has intelligent monkeys that wrote prose in their own language akin to their version of Shakespeare.
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Pretty sure I am looking at Baptiste warming up in Maitland SG...
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dman2018 - 26 Jun 2021 1:31 PM
Hotspots and now Warm spots!!!... Human generated Covid 19 is changing the climate!!... 
Sell your Bitcoin... Run for your lives!!!.... 

I've thumbed a lift with some friendly aliens.

They assure me no Parra fans, politicians and other low intelligence lifeforms on their planet, and free beer...

See ya guys...
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I've thumbed a lift with some friendly aliens.

They assure me no Parra fans, politicians and other low intelligence lifeforms on their planet, and free beer...

See ya guys...

Putting my pristine white sneakers on now!!!...
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The oldest clay tablets ever found on Earth, from thousands of years BC, mention a lot of things, like flying craft & the ancient gold mines in Sth Africa (dating back from 40,000 to 400,000 years BC) established by the owners of the flying craft whom were not from Earth, but they say similar to humans. As sceptic as hell as I am, considering no ancient flying craft has ever been found in an old barn, there's no denying the ancient gold mines are there. What make them fascinating is the remains of "resonant" stone structures nearby. Like a weird shaped building with no doors or windows that's tuned to some frequency & nobody knows why, with theories from power generator to anti-gravity to whatever anyone else wants to guess.
Other unexplained things (that I'll need a lot more convincing of) include flying craft fighting each other & leaving ancient traces of nukes supposedly found in Africa, which is odd considering nothing else can leave such traces, not meteors, volcanoes, fires, floods or anything else but nukes. Another one mentioned is one of the ancient flying craft being shot out of the sky East of Australia. It was mentioned it was not made of metals, but rare crystals. So the modern day sleuths went out to prove it correct or wrong. Based on those specific rare crystals exploding up within the ozone, calculating where the fragments would fall & in what shape & condition, off they went & apparently they found the traces all up the East of Australia & on the island nations to the north, stuff not found anywhere else on Earth & too rare to be found in large concentration on any meteor etc. As for travelling billions of light years, the story goes they were not from Earth but from this solar system. As for me, the only evidence for any of the above I've seen is the ancient gold mines in Sth Africa. I'd fax it all to Ripleys or Mythbusters to sort out but I don't have their numbers...
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Putting my pristine white sneakers on now!!!...

You still got them Dunlop Volleys…?
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You still got them Dunlop Volleys…?

They pay me good money...
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ODF - 26 Jun 2021 2:05 PM
Micko - 26 Jun 2021 1:55 PM

The monkey writing Shakespeare is true on this planet, but we'd never know about another planet, somewhere that has intelligent monkeys that wrote prose in their own language akin to their version of Shakespeare.

Very true. You can never take bias out of the equation when looking through our own eyes. But unfortunately it’s all we have to go on. Evidence is the holy grail. 

The truth though is that the laws of physics do not appear to have changed no matter how far we listen, see or acknowledge. 

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I’m half cut and am having a live gate relationship with lockdown. 

I get to drink more but I have to listen to the Mrs complain more. Fuck Covid 

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Micko - 27 Jun 2021 12:22 AM
I’m half cut and am having a live gate relationship with lockdown. 

I get to drink more but I have to listen to the Mrs complain more. Fuck Covid 

Here comes the spike in domestic violence again....
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Micko - 27 Jun 2021 12:22 AM
I’m half cut and am having a live gate relationship with lockdown. 

I get to drink more but I have to listen to the Mrs complain more. Fuck Covid 

Mate, only half cut at midnight???... 

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Here comes the spike in domestic violence again....

I’d love to see your Mrs give you an uppercut....
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Zef - 26 Jun 2021 11:49 AM
To summarise:

144 credible sightings by U.S Service personnel since 2004 investigated.
143 of those remain unexplained.
No evidence of extra-terrestrial life or technological breakthrough by foreign adversary, though neither is ruled out.
18 includes potentially advanced technology the U.S can’t understand.
11 near misses with gov aircraft.


The interesting part of this report is of course the last two items.

Some more detail:

"The objects appeared to remain stationary in winds aloft, move against the wind, maneuver abruptly, or move at considerable speed, without discernible means of propulsion. Some of them released radio frequency energy that was picked up and processed by U.S. military aircraft.

U.S. military pilots have observed objects moving at hypersonic velocity, more than five times the speed of sound (Mach 5), and conducting maneuvers that are impossible using publicly known technology."

Now  a quick Google tells you that the fastest currently known aircraft in the world is an experimental U.S plane X15 that can hit Mach 6.7, but it does that on the edge of space and to get there is piggy backed up there on the back of a jumbo jet.

Fastest plane under it's own propulsion from takeoff to landing was Blackbird the spy plane Mach 3.5, but again it'd do that on the edge of space, back in the 60's and 70's.

Fastest plane in what one would call atmosphere are various fighter planes past and present that generally top out about 3.5 mach

Now these things have been observed on 80 occasions using "multiple sensors" clocking Mach 5 in atmosphere, changing direction, with no visible means of propulsion.

And on 11 occasions have been close enough to U.S aircraft for eyeballs on observation of the same.

So you got to ask, just what the f*** are these things if they're NOT something from not around here? No matter how sceptical you are, and I am, what explanation can you come up with? I can't, and I want to. Can you?

And do remember, this is from the declassified report, there's a far more detailed classified report before U.S Intelligence Committees that we're never likely to see.



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