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hounddog
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+x+xI think they got the send offs right. Some of the sin bins a bit trigger happy. Robinson was right a few weeks ago when he said the only way they’ll get them out of the game is to start sending them off. And they do have to get it out of the game. NRL, clubs and players are massively exposed to future litigation if they can’t show that everything possible is being done under duty of care. General injuries, even serious, are part of the game and are an acceptable risk, but the head has been off limits for 112 years and if the game can’t show it’s doing everything possible to enforce it, an individual or class action is gonna rip billions from it. And I think there still will be for some historically, they’re coming. But The NRL’s got to put a line under any going forward. I guess it comes down to whether the game wants to survive in the future or shut down. It's like any job.... if you look only at the mortality or injury rate, you'll probably a strong enough case to NOT do that job. There is risk in opportunity, just as there is opportunity in every risk. I still feel that the AFL got it right (more so than league) when they introduced the "ducking" rule. It was afew years after they enforced a blanket high shot rule. If you now duck or slip into the tackle, the onus is in you as a contributor. It's like those pedestrians in the CBD who get too close to the kerb and get clobbered by the mirrors of a bus or truck driving perfectly within their lane. There has to be some sort of responsibility placed on the person who increases the risk of the incident and certainly some leniency for the person who was going about their business in a normal way. Zef's point is right, if the player making the tackle aims for the ball, the ribs or the waist, ducking doesn't come into it. If is a more effective tackle with more chance of dislodging the ball. But it is harder to execute because players have footwork and if the tackler gets his head in the wrong position, they may end up with the concussion. That is what Gus Gould was on about. Players will need to adjust, in the sport I played (hockey) getting the head out of the way of a fast moving ball was an essential survival skill. Getting your head out of the way when tackling is no different. They need to practise and the odd attemped tackle will still go wrong. But it is less of a legal minefield. Guys who keep getting their head in the wrong position will be advised to quit playing.
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dman2018
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As an FYI both of his head shots were around waist height, ducking in one to go under a tackle, and the other on his way down after being hit by first tackler...
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hounddog
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+xAs an FYI both of his head shots were around waist height, ducking in one to go under a tackle, and the other on his way down after being hit by first tackler... Which player are you talking about?
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hounddog
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The tricky ones are falling or ducking, still 10 in the bin and one report, but charge should be minor.
Not a send off provided this is clearly established, if the bunker can't decide after 2 looks go with 10 in the bin.
Send off has to be player reasonably upright hit to the head or neck with force, particularly shoulder.
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dman2018
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+x+xAs an FYI both of his head shots were around waist height, ducking in one to go under a tackle, and the other on his way down after being hit by first tackler... Which player are you talking about? Apologies... Teddy...
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dman2018
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For Zef cos he loves a conspiracy...
All 7 players from top 4 sides charged over Magic Round received fines only...
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Villi
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+xFor Zef cos he loves a conspiracy... All 7 players from top 4 sides charged over Magic Round received fines only... When does Hetherington come back? I expect him to be in Long Bay before the season is over the way the game is going
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Marki
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+xPeachey facing 2week suspension Ese Ese facing 5 plus Fifita out Surely we must smash them this week? I'm not saying anything..... Except Titans are morals!
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intrepidarts
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you can't change the fabric of the game - there needs to be greater penalties off the field - not breaking apart the functions of the play.. this and many other factors have taken the sting out of rugby league
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intrepidarts
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vlandys doesn't have the same pull he has in racing - will get thrown out quick if he can't mend this
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Marki
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+xThe tricky ones are falling or ducking, still 10 in the bin and one report, but charge should be minor. Not a send off provided this is clearly established, if the bunker can't decide after 2 looks go with 10 in the bin. Send off has to be player reasonably upright hit to the head or neck with force, particularly shoulder. Thank you. At last some sanity. Hope there's more of us that think this way
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bad enough with the 6 again rule etc etc etc
i want to know the committee in his ear giving all this info..
he's throwing his weight around atm and rugby league won't put up with it!!
NRL is not like racing rules and regulation you can't dictate to the game
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+xThe tricky ones are falling or ducking, still 10 in the bin and one report, but charge should be minor. Not a send off provided this is clearly established, if the bunker can't decide after 2 looks go with 10 in the bin. Send off has to be player reasonably upright hit to the head or neck with force, particularly shoulder. swinging arms solid contact is still a v real factor onus is and always has been on the tackler
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hounddog
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+x+xThe tricky ones are falling or ducking, still 10 in the bin and one report, but charge should be minor. Not a send off provided this is clearly established, if the bunker can't decide after 2 looks go with 10 in the bin. Send off has to be player reasonably upright hit to the head or neck with force, particularly shoulder. swinging arms solid contact is still a v real factor onus is and always has been on the tackler Agreed but it is all about how much force the blow has.
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Villi
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So who will T Baz bring into the squad from outside the Top 30?
Schoupp?
The winger Kiku ?
Watson Heleta?
Any of the Mounties props?
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hounddog
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+xSo who will T Baz bring into the squad from outside the Top 30? Schoupp? The winger Kiku ? Watson Heleta? Any of the Mounties props? Schoupp and Topine. Possibles Davies and Daley because they can play 9/14. Heleta and Manu seem like hard running centres who can make yards and linebreaks in reserve grade.
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dman2018
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+x+x+xThe tricky ones are falling or ducking, still 10 in the bin and one report, but charge should be minor. Not a send off provided this is clearly established, if the bunker can't decide after 2 looks go with 10 in the bin. Send off has to be player reasonably upright hit to the head or neck with force, particularly shoulder. swinging arms solid contact is still a v real factor onus is and always has been on the tackler Agreed but it is all about how much force the blow has. Wonderful!!!... A new innovation... and an original one for once... piezoelectric sensors...
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hounddog
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Props wise Ben Seufale is interesting big lad makes an impact running the ball in reserve grade.
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hounddog
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+x+x+x+xThe tricky ones are falling or ducking, still 10 in the bin and one report, but charge should be minor. Not a send off provided this is clearly established, if the bunker can't decide after 2 looks go with 10 in the bin. Send off has to be player reasonably upright hit to the head or neck with force, particularly shoulder. swinging arms solid contact is still a v real factor onus is and always has been on the tackler Agreed but it is all about how much force the blow has. Wonderful!!!... A new innovation... and an original one for once... piezoelectric sensors... My solution is we send out Cam Smith, the player does the same tackle on Smith, if they knock him out, play on, otherwise 10 in the bin.
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I just made my first mulled wine and it is outstanding!!!...
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hd, how could you....... using such foul putrid language on this site. We have genuine Bulldogs supporters that read these posts.
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Turning the game into basketball. you go up that end you score and vice Versa
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So much is about giving teams the time to get back the 10. A period of hold down allowed which is variable leading to inconsistency. This period also used for the wrestle and the over emphasis Von high gang tackles. We would be better off with 5 metres, immediate release, all tackles treated the same and the PTB rules enforced.
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Mdog, that's what I've been saying. Wind back the game a few years, fvck the 6 again oztag modball Rugba Leeg off, reset and have another look at what modifications are needed to ensure an entertaining game, with no thuggery, cheating or unfair advantages where the teams determine the result not the officials and put those tweaks into place. The direction the V'RLol is heading ATM the game will unrecognisable in a very short space of time.
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Schoupp to debut this week, sensible team selection.
Napa for Odgen the other change.
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+xSchoupp to debut this week, sensible team selection. Napa for Odgen the other change. Surely we have to win this week with the injuries the Titans have or this another team we will play into form.. ? Hopefully the refs can try help us again and send off a couple of Titans but it seems to have a adverse affect on us..
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+xSchoupp to debut this week, sensible team selection. Napa for Odgen the other change. And Doorey’s in. I hope Doorey in particular plays out the year now. Idiot can stay on the bench or left right out, the latter being my pick at leat this week and a few more. I’d have him playing Reggies with the message he has to play three games without doing something stupid only Adam Idiot could do before he sees NRL again. Which means he’d never see NRL again, at least at The Dogs.
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+x+xSchoupp to debut this week, sensible team selection. Napa for Odgen the other change. And Doorey’s in. I hope Doorey in particular plays out the year now. Idiot can stay on the bench or left right out, the latter being my pick at leat this week and a few more. I’d have him playing Reggies with the message he has to play three games without doing something stupid only Adam Idiot could do before he sees NRL again. Which means he’d never see NRL again, at least at The Dogs. Looks like TBaz had reacted to both Elliott's bad penalty and Meaney's defensive liabilities in the centres. Or he is just trialing young players knowing the season is all about next year.
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Glad to see Elliott gone from the starting line up... was hoping to see Floppa gone, maybe that’ll happen next week when Allen gets back
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+x+x+xSchoupp to debut this week, sensible team selection. Napa for Odgen the other change. And Doorey’s in. I hope Doorey in particular plays out the year now. Idiot can stay on the bench or left right out, the latter being my pick at leat this week and a few more. I’d have him playing Reggies with the message he has to play three games without doing something stupid only Adam Idiot could do before he sees NRL again. Which means he’d never see NRL again, at least at The Dogs. Looks like TBaz had reacted to both Elliott's bad penalty and Meaney's defensive liabilities in the centres. Or he is just trialing young players knowing the season is all about next year. I like his team selection, a few well thought out changes here and there. Players get plenty of opportunities to retain a spot, Once they are dropped or benched no guarantee of an early return. I think he is doing what I would do, build brick by brick, and sort out retention,
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