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i truely fear that im going to be a 70 year old man by time we get to the 3rd division :(
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+xIt's simple. Stop corruption.
Croatia has one of the most corrupt systems in the world - they were eating each other alive before this - Sukar, modric giving evidence at court, the mamic trials...that's what the 'protests' at the euros with cro fans throwing stuff on the pitch was about...maybe we need to be more corrupt :)
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+x+xIt's simple. Stop corruption.
Croatia has one of the most corrupt systems in the world - they were eating each other alive before this - Sukar, modric giving evidence at court, the mamic trials...that's what the 'protests' at the euros with cro fans throwing stuff on the pitch was about...maybe we need to be more corrupt :) Silly Billy :P
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+x+xFULL PYRAMID and it'll sort itself out I laughed out loud. You gotta laugh where this thread has gone (yeah it was predictable). Some of the claims and statements are just hilarious but I did raise an eyebrow at a couple. Non Football Chair of the FFA? IIRC when he came in it was mentioned somewhere in the blurb that he'd played all his life and was still kicking around in the over 40's or something? Just because people don't like him for the zillion reasons that get screamed out in every thread doesn't mean that one can be aimed at him. Now, Palmer, Tinckner, Sage, Griffin, Bakries and half the others, yeah you got a point. Saying that this is first time we ever had FIFA problems is really amusing. From 1960 -1963, ASA to ASF transition was hardly a pimple on the bum. Suspended for years. The best part is that a couple of weeks ago they were screaming that we should be looking at Iceland. Today it's Croatia. Next week probably France. It's amusing to think that in Brasil, Argentina, Italy, Netherlands, Germany and Belgium that the online boards might be demanding that everything be scrapped and thrown out just because Croatia won a close game of football? Might burst my sides laughing in a minute. Maybe some of those countries will be looking at Australia and noting how France was really tested in their opening World Cup game? It would be just as funny and just as justified. What's this got to do with a Full Pyramid competition?You don't agree it would give many more players the opportunity to improve and play harder opposition as they climb the pyramid? It works in England,France,Germany,Brazil, and pretty much every where else in the football world. Where any club can make it to the top or drop to the bottom. Why can't local competition winners be promoted and play the following season in a Inter regional district league and then the first two places play in a Southern,Northern,Western and Eastern inner state league.The winners of each inner state division then get promoted to a NPL Competition.The first two places then promoted to the Australian B league and then reach the A league? The season has to be extended and sure the toughest part will be financing the clubs as they climb the Pyramid.
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Like someone else mentioned, the Croatian league is built around developing young talent and selling it for maximum profit.
The sooner our short sighted club owners setup exactly the same here the better for the club, the player pool and our national team.
I am so sick of clubs fighting over the pittance they receive from tv rights. Do something about it, develop bloody talent and earn $$$$$
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+xLike someone else mentioned, the Croatian league is built around developing young talent and selling it for maximum profit. The sooner our short sighted club owners setup exactly the same here the better for the club, the player pool and our national team. I am so sick of clubs fighting over the pittance they receive from tv rights. Do something about it, develop bloody talent and earn $$$$$ Unfortunately they do realize it, just look at the recent article with Sage from Glory, he specifically mentions how some clubs only make profit by selling players. Sydneys recent transfers are rumoured to be bringing in $2M and will see it make a profit. The question is why dont they do anything about tapping into it.
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Good call tsf.
Was going to say Croatia have done a brilliant job at developing talent. Despite the fact that they are no cleanskins with FA politics, corruption and the like.
And let’s no forget backroom politics at club level can break players careers. Even though all of this is applicable they still understand that they produce these players and on sell them for $$$.
Croatian League metrics prove everything about the FFAs business model is wrong.
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+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+xAussies, no matter what they bang on about - are just not that great or passionate about sport like other nations. They pretend they are, but it's in a boofhead get blind at the footy mate way. Other countries live for their national teams. Go to a wallabies game and you'll see fans in brand new scarfs that they are ready to put back in the cupboard for for 6 months etc. Go to the balkans and you have kids playing from dusk until dawn in the streets. It means everything to them FFS, the one sport we invented - AFL, we are not even good at. peope come fom overseas having never played it and becoime a professional after 1 year. No wonder you get a point for missing. Nice subjective opinion with 0 fucking evidence. What evidence would you like mr angry? All posts require evidence now for his royal highness? Well you could start with the Olympics. The only objective measure of a nations general sporting prowess: Per Capita - Australia finished 15th in Rio Per GDP - Australia finished 45th in Rio ^^ This tells me that we punch above our weight compared to countries with greater population, but we are inefficient in our resource allocation. Conversely.......... Per Capita - Croatia finished 5th in Rio Per GDP - Croatia finished 14th in Rio Not only does Croatia punch above its weight in population, but they are more efficient with their resource allocation. Australia wastes a lot of money in sport. We could learn a lot more from Croatia in terms of how to spend our money more efficiently. That is an objective starting point. So you've highlighted how we are not that good at sport, which is what I said. No, I highlighted that we are good at sport but wasteful with our resources. ke out Take out swimming and we'd be ranked 100th in the Olympics. TSF is right. There's only about 3 sports which other countries play in large numbers that we are decent in. Mens field hockey. Womens basketball and Womens waterpolo. And that's about it. Take out swimming? One of the most participated sports in the world.....'righto. Swimming? We're talking about sports where loads of countries participate. Until recently it was us and the USA. And what happened when other countries starting taking it seriously? We got our arses handed to us on a plate with one of our worst performances at an Olympics ever. So yeah, swimming. There are 209 national federations that are members of FINA. If that is not loads of countries that participate (ie the whole world) I don't know what is?Many countries outside of AUS/USA have been FINA members for over 100 years. Have a read: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_FINA_member_federations And....there's probably 209 countries that play table tennis. Participating in and doing well at a sport are 2 different things. The only reason we do well at it is because no other country besides us and the USA (and the Soviets back in the day) were throwing money at it. It’s patently obvious, as other countries increase their spending, we will never achieve a top 5 Olympic spot again. (Something we've used for years to boost our egos about how 'good we are at sport'.) This is bullshit and nonsense. Australia punches well above its weight and is competitive in most international sports.There is simply no reason to talk us down like you're doing. We are clearly very good at sport, whether we achieve a top 5 Olympic spot or not. We're in everything, everywhere, whether it's playing in the Olympic basketball semi final or going for gold in ski aerials. The pride in our sporting achievements is justified and should not be ridiculed. We are rubbish in winter sports. Maybe the Winter Olympics is easily dismissed by you, but it's the same on the other side of the fence. 16 countries contest curling. It's 32x more international than Aussie Rules. What is "winter"?
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+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+xAussies, no matter what they bang on about - are just not that great or passionate about sport like other nations. They pretend they are, but it's in a boofhead get blind at the footy mate way. Other countries live for their national teams. Go to a wallabies game and you'll see fans in brand new scarfs that they are ready to put back in the cupboard for for 6 months etc. Go to the balkans and you have kids playing from dusk until dawn in the streets. It means everything to them FFS, the one sport we invented - AFL, we are not even good at. peope come fom overseas having never played it and becoime a professional after 1 year. No wonder you get a point for missing. Nice subjective opinion with 0 fucking evidence. What evidence would you like mr angry? All posts require evidence now for his royal highness? Well you could start with the Olympics. The only objective measure of a nations general sporting prowess: Per Capita - Australia finished 15th in Rio Per GDP - Australia finished 45th in Rio ^^ This tells me that we punch above our weight compared to countries with greater population, but we are inefficient in our resource allocation. Conversely.......... Per Capita - Croatia finished 5th in Rio Per GDP - Croatia finished 14th in Rio Not only does Croatia punch above its weight in population, but they are more efficient with their resource allocation. Australia wastes a lot of money in sport. We could learn a lot more from Croatia in terms of how to spend our money more efficiently. That is an objective starting point. So you've highlighted how we are not that good at sport, which is what I said. No, I highlighted that we are good at sport but wasteful with our resources. ke out Take out swimming and we'd be ranked 100th in the Olympics. TSF is right. There's only about 3 sports which other countries play in large numbers that we are decent in. Mens field hockey. Womens basketball and Womens waterpolo. And that's about it. Take out swimming? One of the most participated sports in the world.....'righto. Swimming? We're talking about sports where loads of countries participate. Until recently it was us and the USA. And what happened when other countries starting taking it seriously? We got our arses handed to us on a plate with one of our worst performances at an Olympics ever. So yeah, swimming. There are 209 national federations that are members of FINA. If that is not loads of countries that participate (ie the whole world) I don't know what is?Many countries outside of AUS/USA have been FINA members for over 100 years. Have a read: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_FINA_member_federations And....there's probably 209 countries that play table tennis. Participating in and doing well at a sport are 2 different things. The only reason we do well at it is because no other country besides us and the USA (and the Soviets back in the day) were throwing money at it. It’s patently obvious, as other countries increase their spending, we will never achieve a top 5 Olympic spot again. (Something we've used for years to boost our egos about how 'good we are at sport'.) This is bullshit and nonsense. Australia punches well above its weight and is competitive in most international sports.There is simply no reason to talk us down like you're doing. We are clearly very good at sport, whether we achieve a top 5 Olympic spot or not. We're in everything, everywhere, whether it's playing in the Olympic basketball semi final or going for gold in ski aerials. The pride in our sporting achievements is justified and should not be ridiculed. We are rubbish in winter sports. Maybe the Winter Olympics is easily dismissed by you, but it's the same on the other side of the fence. 16 countries contest curling. It's 32x more international than Aussie Rules. except that Scotty James is a top 3 half-pipe rider [arguably the most prized event in the Winter Olympics] and Torah Bright was one of the most influential female riders in the history of the sport.
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One thing that obviously stands out at every single WC final is that the top 2 teams, consistently have players that play for the powerhouse clubs of Europe.
Australia will not get anywhere near a final until we start producing players capable of attracting the interest of Barca, Real Madrid, Bayern Munich et al.
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+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+xAussies, no matter what they bang on about - are just not that great or passionate about sport like other nations. They pretend they are, but it's in a boofhead get blind at the footy mate way. Other countries live for their national teams. Go to a wallabies game and you'll see fans in brand new scarfs that they are ready to put back in the cupboard for for 6 months etc. Go to the balkans and you have kids playing from dusk until dawn in the streets. It means everything to them FFS, the one sport we invented - AFL, we are not even good at. peope come fom overseas having never played it and becoime a professional after 1 year. No wonder you get a point for missing. Nice subjective opinion with 0 fucking evidence. What evidence would you like mr angry? All posts require evidence now for his royal highness? Well you could start with the Olympics. The only objective measure of a nations general sporting prowess: Per Capita - Australia finished 15th in Rio Per GDP - Australia finished 45th in Rio ^^ This tells me that we punch above our weight compared to countries with greater population, but we are inefficient in our resource allocation. Conversely.......... Per Capita - Croatia finished 5th in Rio Per GDP - Croatia finished 14th in Rio Not only does Croatia punch above its weight in population, but they are more efficient with their resource allocation. Australia wastes a lot of money in sport. We could learn a lot more from Croatia in terms of how to spend our money more efficiently. That is an objective starting point. So you've highlighted how we are not that good at sport, which is what I said. No, I highlighted that we are good at sport but wasteful with our resources. ke out Take out swimming and we'd be ranked 100th in the Olympics. TSF is right. There's only about 3 sports which other countries play in large numbers that we are decent in. Mens field hockey. Womens basketball and Womens waterpolo. And that's about it. Take out swimming? One of the most participated sports in the world.....'righto. Swimming? We're talking about sports where loads of countries participate. Until recently it was us and the USA. And what happened when other countries starting taking it seriously? We got our arses handed to us on a plate with one of our worst performances at an Olympics ever. So yeah, swimming. There are 209 national federations that are members of FINA. If that is not loads of countries that participate (ie the whole world) I don't know what is?Many countries outside of AUS/USA have been FINA members for over 100 years. Have a read: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_FINA_member_federations And....there's probably 209 countries that play table tennis. Participating in and doing well at a sport are 2 different things. The only reason we do well at it is because no other country besides us and the USA (and the Soviets back in the day) were throwing money at it. It’s patently obvious, as other countries increase their spending, we will never achieve a top 5 Olympic spot again. (Something we've used for years to boost our egos about how 'good we are at sport'.) This is bullshit and nonsense. Australia punches well above its weight and is competitive in most international sports.There is simply no reason to talk us down like you're doing. We are clearly very good at sport, whether we achieve a top 5 Olympic spot or not. We're in everything, everywhere, whether it's playing in the Olympic basketball semi final or going for gold in ski aerials. The pride in our sporting achievements is justified and should not be ridiculed. We are rubbish in winter sports. Maybe the Winter Olympics is easily dismissed by you, but it's the same on the other side of the fence. 16 countries contest curling. It's 32x more international than Aussie Rules. What is "winter"? The thing that is coming.
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+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+xAussies, no matter what they bang on about - are just not that great or passionate about sport like other nations. They pretend they are, but it's in a boofhead get blind at the footy mate way. Other countries live for their national teams. Go to a wallabies game and you'll see fans in brand new scarfs that they are ready to put back in the cupboard for for 6 months etc. Go to the balkans and you have kids playing from dusk until dawn in the streets. It means everything to them FFS, the one sport we invented - AFL, we are not even good at. peope come fom overseas having never played it and becoime a professional after 1 year. No wonder you get a point for missing. Nice subjective opinion with 0 fucking evidence. What evidence would you like mr angry? All posts require evidence now for his royal highness? Well you could start with the Olympics. The only objective measure of a nations general sporting prowess: Per Capita - Australia finished 15th in Rio Per GDP - Australia finished 45th in Rio ^^ This tells me that we punch above our weight compared to countries with greater population, but we are inefficient in our resource allocation. Conversely.......... Per Capita - Croatia finished 5th in Rio Per GDP - Croatia finished 14th in Rio Not only does Croatia punch above its weight in population, but they are more efficient with their resource allocation. Australia wastes a lot of money in sport. We could learn a lot more from Croatia in terms of how to spend our money more efficiently. That is an objective starting point. So you've highlighted how we are not that good at sport, which is what I said. No, I highlighted that we are good at sport but wasteful with our resources. ke out Take out swimming and we'd be ranked 100th in the Olympics. TSF is right. There's only about 3 sports which other countries play in large numbers that we are decent in. Mens field hockey. Womens basketball and Womens waterpolo. And that's about it. Take out swimming? One of the most participated sports in the world.....'righto. Swimming? We're talking about sports where loads of countries participate. Until recently it was us and the USA. And what happened when other countries starting taking it seriously? We got our arses handed to us on a plate with one of our worst performances at an Olympics ever. So yeah, swimming. There are 209 national federations that are members of FINA. If that is not loads of countries that participate (ie the whole world) I don't know what is?Many countries outside of AUS/USA have been FINA members for over 100 years. Have a read: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_FINA_member_federations And....there's probably 209 countries that play table tennis. Participating in and doing well at a sport are 2 different things. The only reason we do well at it is because no other country besides us and the USA (and the Soviets back in the day) were throwing money at it. It’s patently obvious, as other countries increase their spending, we will never achieve a top 5 Olympic spot again. (Something we've used for years to boost our egos about how 'good we are at sport'.) This is bullshit and nonsense. Australia punches well above its weight and is competitive in most international sports.There is simply no reason to talk us down like you're doing. We are clearly very good at sport, whether we achieve a top 5 Olympic spot or not. We're in everything, everywhere, whether it's playing in the Olympic basketball semi final or going for gold in ski aerials. The pride in our sporting achievements is justified and should not be ridiculed. We are rubbish in winter sports. Maybe the Winter Olympics is easily dismissed by you, but it's the same on the other side of the fence. 16 countries contest curling. It's 32x more international than Aussie Rules. except that Scotty James is a top 3 half-pipe rider [arguably the most prized event in the Winter Olympics] and Torah Bright was one of the most influential female riders in the history of the sport. Australia's good at UFC
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+xi truely fear that im going to be a 70 year old man by time we get to the 3rd division :( Gyfox will be dead before we get P&R
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Well done Croatia!
On this topic $40-$50k for a junior to participate Coach’s at most clubs are useless Level of corruption at youth level is nicely hidden No governance at youth level No governance of clubs Kids need to do training with private coach’s as the clubs don’t provide instruction or training for the individual
These ipoints say it all really
The problem now is no one is listening
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+x+xi truely fear that im going to be a 70 year old man by time we get to the 3rd division :( Gyfox will be dead before we get P&R I'm working on it. ;)
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+x+x+xi truely fear that im going to be a 70 year old man by time we get to the 3rd division :( Gyfox will be dead before we get P&R I'm working on it. ;) Dying or P&R ?
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Success in Croatia is a WC final.
Success in Australia is: - a TV deal - bigger crowd than a few NRL clubs - more juniors than AFL - every kid gets a prize from Maccas - Peter Crouch in the ALeague
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Show me another country that is successful in football that has as many elite sporting leagues as we do?
AFL, NRL, Rugby Union, BasketBall even
People think we are better than what we are, success for Australia at a world cup would be reaching the round of 16
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+xShow me another country that is successful in football that has as many elite sporting leagues as we do? AFL, NRL, Rugby Union, BasketBall even People think we are better than what we are, success for Australia at a world cup would be reaching the round of 16 You forgot cricket too (BBL) I'd say the States (NBA, MLB, NFL, NHL) would be the only other one (with their national side probably on par with the Socceroos). Many European countries have basketball, ice hockey, handball and volleyball elite leagues (did you see the digs the Socceroos were camped up at in Russia?? That was an ice hockey teams facility). These of course also discount individual sports that have elite competitions (cycling is huge in Europe/Columbia, tennis, motorsports, golf and athletics).
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+xi truely fear that im going to be a 70 year old man by time we get to the 3rd division :( Well what is the definition of a 'full' pyramid anyway? For us a 2nd division and the HAL expanded to 16 teams is probably enough and as much as we can sustain for the time being anyway. We don't currently have the talent to justify a national 3rd division.
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+x+xi truely fear that im going to be a 70 year old man by time we get to the 3rd division :( Well what is the definition of a 'full' pyramid anyway? If you 'win' your current comp, you can go up to the next one
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+x+xShow me another country that is successful in football that has as many elite sporting leagues as we do? AFL, NRL, Rugby Union, BasketBall even People think we are better than what we are, success for Australia at a world cup would be reaching the round of 16 You forgot cricket too (BBL) I'd say the States (NBA, MLB, NFL, NHL) would be the only other one (with their national side probably on par with the Socceroos). Many European countries have basketball, ice hockey, handball and volleyball elite leagues (did you see the digs the Socceroos were camped up at in Russia?? That was an ice hockey teams facility). These of course also discount individual sports that have elite competitions (cycling is huge in Europe/Columbia, tennis, motorsports, golf and athletics). How can you say that "The States would be the only one", and then go onto naming a few of the sports played professionally in Europe? There are plenty of countries that play multiple sports like Australia. The only thing different, is the order in which other nations rank their sports. Football is number one in most other Nations, whereas here, football would be ranked about third (second behind League and AFL in their respective States).
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+x+xi truely fear that im going to be a 70 year old man by time we get to the 3rd division :( Well what is the definition of a 'full' pyramid anyway? For us a 2nd division and the HAL expanded to 16 teams is probably enough and as much as we can sustain for the time being anyway. We don't currently have the talent to justify a national 3rd division. if we cant have a national 3rd division, the State leagues will have to suffice question is, how would the state league clubs gain promotion to the A2-League? would the state leagues do a cut-throat knock out competition to determine who get into the A2-League?
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They're pretty tall in that part of the world.
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+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+xAussies, no matter what they bang on about - are just not that great or passionate about sport like other nations. They pretend they are, but it's in a boofhead get blind at the footy mate way. Other countries live for their national teams. Go to a wallabies game and you'll see fans in brand new scarfs that they are ready to put back in the cupboard for for 6 months etc. Go to the balkans and you have kids playing from dusk until dawn in the streets. It means everything to them FFS, the one sport we invented - AFL, we are not even good at. peope come fom overseas having never played it and becoime a professional after 1 year. No wonder you get a point for missing. Nice subjective opinion with 0 fucking evidence. What evidence would you like mr angry? All posts require evidence now for his royal highness? Well you could start with the Olympics. The only objective measure of a nations general sporting prowess: Per Capita - Australia finished 15th in Rio Per GDP - Australia finished 45th in Rio ^^ This tells me that we punch above our weight compared to countries with greater population, but we are inefficient in our resource allocation. Conversely.......... Per Capita - Croatia finished 5th in Rio Per GDP - Croatia finished 14th in Rio Not only does Croatia punch above its weight in population, but they are more efficient with their resource allocation. Australia wastes a lot of money in sport. We could learn a lot more from Croatia in terms of how to spend our money more efficiently. That is an objective starting point. So you've highlighted how we are not that good at sport, which is what I said. No, I highlighted that we are good at sport but wasteful with our resources. ke out Take out swimming and we'd be ranked 100th in the Olympics. TSF is right. There's only about 3 sports which other countries play in large numbers that we are decent in. Mens field hockey. Womens basketball and Womens waterpolo. And that's about it. Take out swimming? One of the most participated sports in the world.....'righto. Swimming? We're talking about sports where loads of countries participate. Until recently it was us and the USA. And what happened when other countries starting taking it seriously? We got our arses handed to us on a plate with one of our worst performances at an Olympics ever. So yeah, swimming. There are 209 national federations that are members of FINA. If that is not loads of countries that participate (ie the whole world) I don't know what is?Many countries outside of AUS/USA have been FINA members for over 100 years. Have a read: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_FINA_member_federations And....there's probably 209 countries that play table tennis. Participating in and doing well at a sport are 2 different things. The only reason we do well at it is because no other country besides us and the USA (and the Soviets back in the day) were throwing money at it. It’s patently obvious, as other countries increase their spending, we will never achieve a top 5 Olympic spot again. (Something we've used for years to boost our egos about how 'good we are at sport'.) This is bullshit and nonsense. Australia punches well above its weight and is competitive in most international sports.There is simply no reason to talk us down like you're doing. We are clearly very good at sport, whether we achieve a top 5 Olympic spot or not. We're in everything, everywhere, whether it's playing in the Olympic basketball semi final or going for gold in ski aerials. The pride in our sporting achievements is justified and should not be ridiculed. We are rubbish in winter sports. Maybe the Winter Olympics is easily dismissed by you, but it's the same on the other side of the fence. 16 countries contest curling. It's 32x more international than Aussie Rules. except that Scotty James is a top 3 half-pipe rider [arguably the most prized event in the Winter Olympics] and Torah Bright was one of the most influential female riders in the history of the sport. Australia's good at UFC Australia is current Roller Derby World Champions.
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+xSuccess in Croatia is a WC final. Success in Australia is: - a TV deal - bigger crowd than a few NRL clubs - more juniors than AFL - every kid gets a prize from Maccas - Peter Crouch in the A-League
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Far from true. The league is young and baby steps are needed with some help. For it first few steps success in Australia means ensuring....... 1. a professional league men's and women's is off and running and subsequently sustained 2. to continue attract sponsorship and advertisers at increased levels 3. ensure the game is beamed into every home and continues to attract participation at record levels 4. world cup qualification and becoming Asian champions 5. acceptance in mainstream 6. run national curriculums and national coaching courses ensuring best qualified coaches 7. achieve record attendances since 2004 Whilst the above have been a success, for the next steps the baby must be let go and think for itself. It's becoming a child. There is much work to do to nurture its growth, agree, however this does take time.
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by the way, Rakitic is Swiss......just sayin'
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BA81
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+xFar from true. The league is young and baby steps are needed with some help. For it first few steps success in Australia means ensuring....... 1. a professional league men's and women's is off and running and subsequently sustained 2. to continue attract sponsorship and advertisers at increased levels 3. ensure the game is beamed into every home and continues to attract participation at record levels 4. world cup qualification and becoming Asian champions 5. acceptance in mainstream 6. run national curriculums and national coaching courses ensuring best qualified coaches 7. achieve record attendances since 2004 Whilst the above have been a success, for the next steps the baby must be let go and think for itself. It's becoming a child. There is much work to do to nurture its growth, agree, however this does take time. How's about you fvck off? Fed up w/your rimjobbing of FFA's bullshit. But you know what? I'll bite on some of your points: 2) I assume you mean sponsorship from corporate Australia? This is a spoiler for my answer to (5) but we really don't need their help(and for the most part, won't be getting it anyway) - not when there's a literal world of football-savvy sponsorship beyond our shores. THAT'S who we should be looking to instead of the white nationalist white-collar bogans running the alcohol/gambling companies, etc.💡 3) Your man-crushes Lowy & Gallop ballsed the fvck out of that one, didn't they😂😂 5) Fvck mainstream Australia when it comes to ⚽ - they've made their stance crystal-clear over the past 130 years. Total de-ethnicisation of our club/national sides, making simulation a red-card offence, abolishing offside...implement all these and our game STILL won't be good enough for them; I suggest you imprint that statement deep into your brain so there's no forgetting⚠ The rest we agree on, but you're complacent as fvck re. attendances just because the Distance Derby pulls a bigger crowd than the 2001/02 NSL season average. But we all know you're just a racist POS who'll never be on board w/the old clubs being in the HAL through whatever means.
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paladisious
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+xby the way, Rakitic is Swiss......just sayin' Yep he was born there and played all his youth football there, very much like how they capped Simunic and how we're totally entitled to cap Karacic. 211 member federations, all playing by the same rules.
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