Time to update this... here goes 

1635

                                     Ryan 1657
Karacic 1425    Wright 1490     Souttar 1481      Elder 1461
                     Mooy 1635,     Genreau 1570
   Volpato 1749         Rogic 1565               McGree 1564
                                  Ruka 1618
                                  

Others.. 
Hrustic 1559
Kalik 1538
Mabil 1524
Irvine & Metcalfe 1488
Holland 1443
Circati 1431
Dougall 1435
King 1429
Gersbach 1413
D Juric 1383
Rowles, Devlin, Atkinson, Kuol 1316
Boyle and Jeggo 1286
Bacchus 1281
Behich 1268

So looking off that it's probably time we at least had a look at Elder and Kalik bringing them into the squad. Both 1st team regulars at very highly rated clubs. And Rukavytsa should have been given far more opportunities the last few years given the level he's been playing at and scoring goals in... ship probably sailed now though. 

If Souttar goes to Leicester (1745) Wolves (1698) or Everton (1675), or Bacchus goes to AEK(1467), Rangers (1635), Norwich (1558), a rumoured.

It just does not work like that - selecting players for national teams based on club rankings.

It is interesting to see how they are ranked  based on ELO  though.

Yes obviously! Whilst Deni Genreau made the team, he is a squad rotation player at best whilst someone like a Jackson Irvine, whilst at a lower rated club is the captain and mainstay of his team.

But this was just an exercise i started awhile ago to see if there was anyone that we should perhaps be considering that is going under the radar. It's clear from this though that guys like Kalik and Elder are being overlooked. Both are mainstays of their sides when fit and are playing at a very good level relative to our other players. I don't think either of them have even been capped?!

Agree - it is an interesting exercise.

Last I heard of Kalik he was playing in the Croatian League. Apart from their two big clubs, Hadjuk S and Dynamo Zagreb, the league isn't rated highly.

However, given the resounding recent  success of the Croatian national team in big tournaments, there must be a lot being done very well in Croatian football. They only have a population of 5 million. Most of the  players in the  WC played in other UEFA leagues and most, if not all the  Croatian domestic  players played with the big two Croatian clubs.

I can look up where Elder plays his football, but I thought he was an English Lower League player?

Kalik starts for Hajduk Split every week hence why his clubs elo rating is high. 
Elder plays for Hull City in the Championship.

So high levels but neither have been capped.

Wow! 

Hadjuk Spilt is a  pretty big  club with UEFA comp pedigree. If Kalik is starting every week for HS I'm really surprised he hasn't been given a call up?

Unless it has changed a lot in the last few years, the Championship is a funny league in terms of being a motley collection of playing styles. It is the 6th richest league in the world behind the big UEFA five. 

Time to update this again.. 

                                Ryan 1788
           Circati 1585   Souttar 1525    Burgess 1565    
Metcalfe 1588     Irvine 1588   Genreau 1643    Bos 1465
           Hrustic 1539   Irankunda 1905     Volpato 1590    

Av = 1616
Av last time = 1565

Others.. 
Luongo 1565
Gauci 1772
D'Agostino 1428
Mcgree 1524
Yengi, Silvera, Farrell 1398
Robertson 1392
Elder 1383
J Iredale 1340
Oneill 1448
Balard 1321
Toure and Izzo 1428
Mabil 1344
Devlin, Atkinson, N'Hoff and Rowles 1391
Miller, Boyle, Triantis, Jack Iredale 1302
Kailk 1434
Strain 1219
D'Arrigo 1261
Nisbit 1219
Karacic 1328


Surprises were how high Deni Genreau's team is along with daggers at Viking, and the boys at Randers.  Was surpised also at how low the bottom championship teams are ranked - they are basically on par with Hearts and below the boys at Randers. Just like the last time i did this, Kalik's team is strong which again suggests he is very unfortunate not to get picked given he is a first team regular at a club with a high rating. Surprised that Oneill's Standard Liege werent higher - the Belgium league is enjoying there best rating in many years, above the Eredivisie atm. Standard must have done poorly in the league the past few years. As we suspected Nisbit's Ross county is very low - mid league 1 level. Looks like Hrustic has gone to one of the best teams in Serie B.  Overall the average of our players has gone up a lot, mostly through Ipswich and St Pauli being promoted

Interesting, should insist on starters tho. I guess we want to jump by 150 over the next decade

 Including only regulars for club in jan 23 with hrustic out of position

                                     Ryan 1657
Karacic 1425    Wright 1490     Souttar? 1481      Elder 1461
                     Mooy 1635,     irvine 1488
   mabil  1524      metcalf  1488            McGree 1564
                                 hrustic 1559

average=1524

today with a frankenformation
--------------------izzo 1428-------------
Souttar 1525---stesness 1428--Circati 1585--Bos 1465
----------------Irvine 1588 O'Niell 1448----
-Mcgree 1524--------------------------------Hrustic-1539
  -----------------------Metcalf-1588-------------------------
-------------------------Toure 1428----------------------------

Total: 1504.18 mostly due to ryan falling down, mooy retiring and burgess losing his place

I can actually go back and work out what the ratings were for the golden gen. That would be very interesting to see how it compares with current squad. Another thing i noticed doing these was that even though we have a few more guys playing in the top division now, there clubs are very poorly rated. Arguably playing for say a Leeds is a higher standard than playing for say an Ipswich. I know that sounds a bit counterintuitive given Ipswich is the prem and Leeds are Champ but Leeds are ranked a fair bit higher 

Yeah there is often a delay before the ratings go up or down. End of the season will be intetesting if our 3 regulars go up

Would love to see how the elo of regular starters has evolved over the years. Im guessing 2014 was where we bottomed out

I'm curious how our depth differs? Gut feel is it's better. 

Thats a question i can probably answer in the next day or two. The number of players born between 00 and 03 who have gotten substantial game time is huge compared to any time in the a league era

So I looked at players who managed at least one 25+ game season (counting all comps) at at least the second tier level by the time they were u24. Regardless of birth month a u24 is someone born in 2001. Cahill (1979) for example is taken to be u24 in 2003 despite being bon in december. This of course squashes a lot of nuance - players might miss games due to injury, 25 sub appearances for a relegation candidate in the spl is in the same category as a player that plays every game for a promoted team in seri b. Having said that, the list is like a who's who of socceroos. I'm skeptical I got all the players born 76-87, so any suggestions please shoot them off

2000-2003

current list (9): Circati, Volpato, Yazbek, Bos,  Neiwenhof,  Gwargis, Silvera, Miller, Italiano, 
Players playing when fit: Triantis, Robertson, Toure, Darrigo

Players I expect to get 25 games this season: Farrell+Rodriguez

probably 14-15 by the end of the season in total, I would expect another 5-7 players to join them before the end of the 26/27 season. 

1999-96 (7) Karacic, Souttar, Mcgree, Genreau, Metcalf, Hrustic, Devlin

95-92 (7) Mabil, irvine, luongo, ryan, rogic, degenek, amini

91-88 (10) leckie, oar, Giannou, Wright, Mcgowan, Davidson, Rhys Williams, Troisi, Holland, Lowry

87-84 (4+) Holman, Kilkenny, Djite, valeri

83-80 (5+) Kennedy, mcdonald, culina, kisnorbo, bresciano

79-76 (10+) Max Vieri, Cahill, grella, Thompson, Sterjovski, Emerton, aloisi, kewell, Neill, Moore,Simunic

Very few notable players not making this list: kruse, mooy, jedi, chipperfield, wilkshire

Players im watching to be a chance to break through before u24 in the 2000-2003 generation

Teague (2002), valadon (2003) tilio (2002) alagich (2003), peupion (02) watts (02), Simmons (03), Paull (03), Corey Holman (03), Dukuly (03), Drew (03), Grimaldi (03), Jelacic (02), Muir (02), Steele (02), Reec (03), Natta (02),  any others?