AUFC v Nix - 8,954

7,368 City v Jets

brisbane v perth 9249 (brisbane times fairfax)

I'm predicting the average crowd to dip below 10,000 for the season.

Its trending in that direction. In fact everyone bar Victory and sydney fc have become sub 10k franchises now. Syd fc are just tipping that figure.

Did the NSL ever average above 10k?

Did the nsl have a closed monopoly for the duration of its existence?

Apart from a couple of seasons, yes.

Boom

It would be the lowest in HAL history if that was the case.

That's about 4 to 5 times better than the NSL lowest.however.

Imagine celebrating being better than the NSL like it's some crowning achievement 

Last season the average was 10,666 and currently the average this season is only 140 less than last season after 56 games so things would have to crash for the remainder of the season to get anywhere near sub 10,000.

Lolololol

Lol nice try, nsl started in 1977, it became a closed shop in 1993 when they tried To A league it.

How did clubs get into the League and how did they leave the League?

There was usually a play off between the top NPL teams and the last NSL team for the right of promotion.

Promotion/relegation process in NSL

However, goodwill isn't enough for anything to work, and the AAFC as well as the PFA are looking into models for a second division with eventual promotion and relegation.

"In the NSL it was mostly a managed process, with clubs such as Canberra, Newcastle, Wollongong and South Melbourne all deemed too important to be relegated, at least at one point in time.

When that advice was ignored, the 1980s proceeded as the most democratic and open decade in national league history. It was also the decade when attendances dipped as low as the hundreds and soccer all but died as a commercial product."

Gorman correctly points out that the promotion and relegation process was a managed one which had exemptions and conditions that one generally wouldn't find in other examples of open models.

"Most years, 1978 to the early '90s had some form of promotion/relegation but teams only dropped if there were clear candidates for promotion that passed financial and/or playing strength criteria," Australian football historian and statician Andrew Howe explained.

The process was used more of a way to build the commercial viability of the league by picking and choosing who participated in it rather than as a reward or penalty for clubs depending on how they performed on and off the pitch. When a process is perverted and manipulated away from it's natural purpose it will become corrupted and messy.

This is a problem that Australian football still faces today with its administration. Much of the game at the top is controlled and manufactured so that it doesn't allow 'nature to take it's course'. There is an intrinsic fear of allowing the game or clubs to grow beyond the control of our leadership who routinely choose the ownership over guardianship of the game route.

"The late 80s/early 90s was the most 'traditional' pro/rel system," said Howe.

"The bottom two NSL clubs dropped, replaced by champions of NSW (NSW, Northern NSW and the ACT) and champions of Victoria, Queensland and South Australia (in a playoff) provided they met financial criteria and of course wanted to be promoted.

"It was always very messy."

There has never been a national second division in Australia, which is a crucial aspect to most promotion/relegation systems around the world. A national second division makes it very clear to all involved where trams are heading and how they get there. The system employed by ASF (one of the precursors to the FFA) was more an expansion policy - the likes of which we see when new A-League teams have been admitted and expelled.

http://footballtoday.news/features/a-longer-short-history-of-promotion-and-relegation-in-australian-football

WSW v Nix -looked like 4k?.

7,288 was the official crowd. Not bad for a 82k stadium 😂
Oh well 7 games to go 😁

Nah that would be a Nix home game with inflated crowd figures. 

Someones hurting.

Sydney Thunder had 11,000 in a rain interupted match.

Fair to say the Wanderers have dropped to 3rd behind the Thunder and GWS Giants now?

7,200 for the soccer and only 11,000 for the bash is enough evidence fans don’t like midweek games. But it’s not being done for fans, it’s done for Fox Sports.

It is NSW though, the most fickle sports fans in the country. 

Gold Coast is worse. 

12,115 Reds v Victory

http://www.ultimatealeague.com/records.php?type=att

Perth v Sydney 9,521.

https://www.perthnow.com.au/sport/soccer/win-puts-perth-glory-six-points-clear-at-top-of-a-league-ng-b881069868z

Perth should be getting more people in they are killing it

Disappointing from Glory, even for a midweek game.

Good job in Adelaide, even so that game must be played on a weekend. It’s a marquee fixture.

9,521 on a Wednesday night is pretty good. This fixture being played on a Wednesday night is pretty shocking.