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+x+xJust looking at the list, Bradman is on the list in 17th place. He has by far the highest average and least number of games and innings of the top 50. Who has the second least number of innings to make the top 50? Who is the highest ranked player on the list to average under 40? How many players in the list average under 40? Who has the least number of centuries in the list? Which player in the top 10 played the most number of test? 2nd least number of innings, Jones had a good average, if I remember correctly 55 Haydos also had a 55 average, Beven had a 60 average (he would be the answer to most Not Outs) G Chappell was brilliant. You may not know of him but as a QLDer I know Peter Burge had an average above 55 and I know he didn't play an excessive number of games so 2nd least number of innings to make the list of top 50 I'll go Burge I know he was better than Lawry and Lawry was good Highest ranked player to av under 40 would be Cox Players to average under 40, well I know of 3 Cam White, Bailey and Ferguson since they have scored more runs than M Waugh. I'll say 25% so 12 or 13 Least number of 100's Divenuto scored a lot of runs not many centuries, but least number of top 50. Probably that useless pile of garbage that was Dirk Whellam (NSW gift to stuff up Qld cricket) if he's still on the list, Is S Marsh on the list yet, if so he hasn't scored many. There you go I'm comparing S Marsh to Dirk Whellam, gives you some indication of how well Marsh is going. There you go Baggers another NSWman to be selected for Australia after only 5 FC games I forgot all about him. The list just keeps getting longer. Ricky and S Waugh played the most tests and both would be there I would imagine, but they were selected at a young age so if a trick question I'll go Border But I've got a question on Shield who scored the most ducks (0) out of Bill Lawry from 85 games, Steve Waugh from 85 games, Matt Hayden from 89 games, David Boon from 119 games, Allan Border from 108 games or Michael Bevan from 118 games? 2nd question name players post 1970 that had Sheffield Shield averages above 54 no minimum games, there are some very interesting names on the list? Guys no googling. Sounds to me like a trick question.. and as Mike is a Blues hater I will say Steve Waugh. Post 1970. That is a lot of players from which to choose. Clue.
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+x+x+xJust looking at the list, Bradman is on the list in 17th place. He has by far the highest average and least number of games and innings of the top 50. Who has the second least number of innings to make the top 50? Who is the highest ranked player on the list to average under 40? How many players in the list average under 40? Who has the least number of centuries in the list? Which player in the top 10 played the most number of test? 2nd least number of innings, Jones had a good average, if I remember correctly 55 Haydos also had a 55 average, Beven had a 60 average (he would be the answer to most Not Outs) G Chappell was brilliant. You may not know of him but as a QLDer I know Peter Burge had an average above 55 and I know he didn't play an excessive number of games so 2nd least number of innings to make the list of top 50 I'll go Burge I know he was better than Lawry and Lawry was good Highest ranked player to av under 40 would be Cox Players to average under 40, well I know of 3 Cam White, Bailey and Ferguson since they have scored more runs than M Waugh. I'll say 25% so 12 or 13 Least number of 100's Divenuto scored a lot of runs not many centuries, but least number of top 50. Probably that useless pile of garbage that was Dirk Whellam (NSW gift to stuff up Qld cricket) if he's still on the list, Is S Marsh on the list yet, if so he hasn't scored many. There you go I'm comparing S Marsh to Dirk Whellam, gives you some indication of how well Marsh is going. There you go Baggers another NSWman to be selected for Australia after only 5 FC games I forgot all about him. The list just keeps getting longer. Ricky and S Waugh played the most tests and both would be there I would imagine, but they were selected at a young age so if a trick question I'll go Border But I've got a question on Shield who scored the most ducks (0) out of Bill Lawry from 85 games, Steve Waugh from 85 games, Matt Hayden from 89 games, David Boon from 119 games, Allan Border from 108 games or Michael Bevan from 118 games? 2nd question name players post 1970 that had Sheffield Shield averages above 54 no minimum games, there are some very interesting names on the list? Guys no googling. Sounds to me like a trick question.. and as Mike is a Blues hater I will say Steve Waugh. Post 1970. That is a lot of players from which to choose. Clue. Correct on S Waugh, but not what you think, I thought an opener for sure, in Hayden Boon or Lawry, but the one I thought you would choose is Bevan proving more so how good he actually was, very hard done by in his test career, but who was the most likely candidate he would replace was either Waugh twin, his record at first class level you could argue was better than both. on the post 1970 question one player in particular averaged over 100 from 8 games and recently we've been talking politics and sport. Another played for Victoria 133 FC games (but only 39 of them were sheffield shield games) you would probably remember him Baggers he retired just before I started following cricket as a kid. And a third had a funny technique, just like we've been discussing, but scored runs.
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Baggers I've got to go but will be back on Friday, but one more question for you to ponder.
Name the opposition and bonus for the year for this close test match
Taylor scored a pair
Bevan, S Waugh and Healy rescue Australia from a 1st innings disaster
Boon delivers a 100 in the 2nd innings and finishes Not Out
A big unit from WA outbowls G McGrath in the first innings then has to shoulder a massive work load in the 2nd innings when McGrath goes down (Bevan was not used as a bowler when he should have been)
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+xBaggers I've got to go but will be back on Friday, but one more question for you to ponder. Name the opposition and bonus for the year for this close test match Taylor scored a pair Bevan, S Waugh and Healy rescue Australia from a 1st innings disaster Boon delivers a 100 in the 2nd innings and finishes Not Out A big unit from WA outbowls G McGrath in the first innings then has to shoulder a massive work load in the 2nd innings when McGrath goes down (Bevan was not used as a bowler when he should have been) http://www.espncricinfo.com/series/16331/scorecard/63654/pakistan-vs-australia-1st-test-australia-tour-of-pakistan-1994-95
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+x+xBaggers I've got to go but will be back on Friday, but one more question for you to ponder. Name the opposition and bonus for the year for this close test match Taylor scored a pair Bevan, S Waugh and Healy rescue Australia from a 1st innings disaster Boon delivers a 100 in the 2nd innings and finishes Not Out A big unit from WA outbowls G McGrath in the first innings then has to shoulder a massive work load in the 2nd innings when McGrath goes down (Bevan was not used as a bowler when he should have been) http://www.espncricinfo.com/series/16331/scorecard/63654/pakistan-vs-australia-1st-test-australia-tour-of-pakistan-1994-95 It was too easy given how few matches Jo Angel played :P
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+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+xOK I've grabbed test fans list Usman Khawaja - 43.92 Keep Shaun Marsh - 41.13 Will keep if he performs next test, I don't expect 100, but good solid score will suffice Glenn Maxwell - 41.10 Possible No 6 better than M Marsh Kurtis Patterson - 41.00 Not yet needs to continue away form in next shield games to prove that he has overcome away from home problems (iffy on Ashes) Joe Burns - 40.58 In on the condition he is given the same security as the current players of remaining home games (unless total failure) 1 game isn't enough for any player Cameron White - 40.38 Too old now should have been selected a while ago but for remaining tests of the summer possible Jake Lehmann - 39.62 No is on a downward turn currently needs to halt drop first Matthew Wade - 39.57 Solid performer a definite possible 6 Peter Handscomb - 39.02 I wouldn't drop him till test average drops to 35-37 currently still at 42 (name someone else that you're possibly guaranteed those numbers Better the devil you know) George Bailey - 38.80 Too old now, should never have been dropped in 2014 need him now but too late to re-ignite career Harris In regardless of next test, should be given a decent opportunity Head In one of our best performers in last 3 tests reminding me of a young Ponting Renshaw NO Hughes NO Larkin NO even you were questioning his shield selection a few weeks ago Finch NO was out 3 times in first test but for a no-ball, not even down the order Therefore my team is Harris Burns Khawaja S Marsh if scores runs otherwise I would gamble with Patterson because it is Melbourne and Sydney his favoured grounds or Cam White (unlikely) Head Handscomb/Wade/Maxwell(possibly for Sydney)/Stonis (for Sydney if they drop either Starc/Hazlewood/Cummins for 2nd spinner) JUST NO MORE M MARSH 30 TESTS IS ENOUGH For Ashes Warner back replacing worse of Burns or Harris, but if both performing BYE BYE WARNER Smith easily slots in for Marsh/Patterson or everyone drops down one and Head in at 6 all based on performance. Give this team the remaining 4 games
Little quizz for you all. Who can name the Top 10 Shield scorers. No peeking. Does not have to be in any order. #1 is Boof But was he ever behind Bevan at any point? Not sure. But he finished three thousand more runs than Bevan. Bev was a better red ball cricketer than he was given credit for. Bob Massie always believed overcast aided swing. His 18 wickets prove it. Incredible to think that you could take that many poles in the one game. Have you seen footage of his feat? Much more than likely watched Massie highlights... But its not in my memory bank... I have just been so indoctrinated with Ashes Bodyline (32/33), 74/75, 81 and 05 - that its hard for me to accept that there have ever been any more Ashes series bar the 1948 (99.94 finish) with a bit of Botham and Broad in 86/87, Border 89 and Warne 93. Not really a fan of Bevan outside his useful bowling... Did you ever see the Aussie made Bodyline mini series Many, many many times... Many times... Loved it as a small fry... Jardine was such a hero - I always wanted a harlequins caps ;-) Born in the British Raj, educated at Oxbridge, a lawyer, a gifted cricket captain, living the dream... Most Australian cricket tragics of the time would not agree with that. They saw him as an arrogant, POMpous Englishman. He was certainly portrayed by Hugo Weaving as just that. Win at all costs.. Doing this by resorting to leg theory was against the spirit of cricket.. some called it cheating. Could never allow those upstart colonials and this brash young Bradman beat the best England had to offer. I was born in NZ. But my father was an English public school boy. I had a different take on a world view to you :P If underarm wasn't cheating, fast leg theory was more than okay :P Besides - Lillee and Thommo was much faster than Larwood in 74/75.. lest we forget... And played in exactly the identical spirit of cricket... Heck... did you see the Windies after they toured Australia in the late 1970's... Bodyline was for amateurs... But here's the real problem - Aus refused to play NZ in tests and England would. So NZ'ers just typically love England more than CA. It is what it is. England looked after us, and Australia shat on us... This is the bluntest honesty you will hear, unfortunately it is still true today. Forget Gallipoli - England looks after NZC better than CA ever will... Besides my father's origins, it is really easy to support England in the Ashes. Like really easy. The world dislikes CA and BCCI both. Push come to shove, I like BCCI more than CA myself - but that's just my opinion. But they're easily the two most disliked money grubbing power playing boards in world cricket - even if BCCI is richer and more powerful to make CA its servant... I get Aussies intensely despise BCCI and will not understand this... but CA is worse... believe me or not - want proof - where's your Bangladesh 2018 tour? Exactly.... It is good to have a Kiwi posting here to provide perspective. You really seem to get me... And I really seem to get you... We can balance out a lot of opinion on here for the good of the forum... I appreciate you understanding my p.o.v... ;-) Sincerely Decentric - you speak your mind, I speak my mind - and yet we find mutual respect - this is rare on forums. You're a top bloke. ;-) (I think Baggers is tops too but I don't get his love affair for the Aus seam attack - he wants to talk to me about Bradman - I have nothing to counter him with :P When BCCI fans start Tendulkar > BRadman I either switch off entirely and do laundry or look up Sangakarra stats - seriously :P) - it is what it is) One of the greatest strengths of forums is discussing a sport with those who provide a different perspective. Having pay TV, I've seen a lot other Test cricket played between other countries than Australia. Many of these games have been played in a far better spirit. Australia has been too acrimonious on the pitch IMO.None of the 442 mods post regularly here. I've asked admin to create one, but haven't received an answer. ATM there is no need, as most posters respect others' opinions. I don't want to see any trolls destroy what is currently here though. Outside the Australian Football section, this Cricket section is now the most active on 442/Inside Sport. Most of the cricket posters don't follow football either. The pleasing phenomenon is that there is a lot of cricket content being created by you, Baggers, Test Fan and Mike R. It is also inducing a number others who are active on the football forum to contribute more regularly. There are some informative posts that have expanded my knowledge. You four post a bit lIke Quickflick (who occasionally posts here), Grazorblade (a regular cricket poster), Glory Perth, Benjamin and Gyfox, who tend to create quality content on 442 Football. I intend to ring a mate of mine who is a mod, to discuss moderation here.IMO this is the best sports forum I've been associated with in 12 years ATM. Re Moderation: Part of the reason this website is so good may actually be the lack of moderation. Many websites ruin the user experience with partisan and bias moderation. And all that does is breed sycophancy or resentment. Here people speak their minds without being treated like naughty little schoolboys nor sucking up to some moderator. And the conversation just flows. Everyone seems thick skinned enough to handle the criticisms of their national teams and board's weaknesses (and lets be honest - no team is perfect right now, and the people running world cricket for their respective nations are not doing the best jobs possible in anyone's opinion). Baggers certainly drives most the content around here. I debate fiercely with him at times (Aus seam attack and green pitches have been recurring), but I think he's a top bloke. This is a good forum. And I think the lack of moderators helps it to be so... Re Acrimony: Yeah, there's more than a bit of truth to this. SA and IND can get quite nasty when playing Aus, and yet be friendly affairs when playing NZ or even England (as Jimmy is mellowing these days and Stokes is on his best behaviour since Bristol). Part of the problem is the former players and their talk of "body language" and "letting the opposition know its a contest" rah rah - be it from Haddin, Warne or Johnson, that seems to want to perpetuate the cycle. I think Cummins has the perfect blend of banter - he doesn't sledge and glare and give off all the hostile energy as such - but he lets the batsman know that he has not missed a trick and is in the game. He says stuff with a big smile on his face, even if the batsman is not smiling. And he copped it back from Pant without incident. That to me as a fan is the perfect blend. Pant and Pat did their jobs very well, and can hold their heads up high with their on-field behavior. And that is where the line should be drawn. Sangakarra was much the same. Haze I don't think has found the perfect blend yet, but he said that he's working on it - and I believe him. Now he's not talking, but he is still giving glares... It is unnecessary, he should follow Cummins lead... He absolutely took the mickey out of Rahane (I could be wrong on which batsman it was) and it was good by-play. Cummins got the result he wanted, the batsman kept swinging. But I don't quite get all the body language and contest garb. For NZC, Boult just does his job without any fuss or issue. Wagner looks like he's enduring kidney stones, but that's aimed more to himself and not the batsman. I like watching banter, as such NZC can get to be more than a bit dull at times, with the last player to engage in banter being Grant Elliott (against Aus funnily enough), but that's the McCullum and KW way for now... and as an extreme I don't like watching hostilities on a cricket field at all.
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+x+x+x+xJust looking at the list, Bradman is on the list in 17th place. He has by far the highest average and least number of games and innings of the top 50. Who has the second least number of innings to make the top 50? Who is the highest ranked player on the list to average under 40? How many players in the list average under 40? Who has the least number of centuries in the list? Which player in the top 10 played the most number of test? 2nd least number of innings, Jones had a good average, if I remember correctly 55 Haydos also had a 55 average, Beven had a 60 average (he would be the answer to most Not Outs) G Chappell was brilliant. You may not know of him but as a QLDer I know Peter Burge had an average above 55 and I know he didn't play an excessive number of games so 2nd least number of innings to make the list of top 50 I'll go Burge I know he was better than Lawry and Lawry was good Highest ranked player to av under 40 would be Cox Players to average under 40, well I know of 3 Cam White, Bailey and Ferguson since they have scored more runs than M Waugh. I'll say 25% so 12 or 13 Least number of 100's Divenuto scored a lot of runs not many centuries, but least number of top 50. Probably that useless pile of garbage that was Dirk Whellam (NSW gift to stuff up Qld cricket) if he's still on the list, Is S Marsh on the list yet, if so he hasn't scored many. There you go I'm comparing S Marsh to Dirk Whellam, gives you some indication of how well Marsh is going. There you go Baggers another NSWman to be selected for Australia after only 5 FC games I forgot all about him. The list just keeps getting longer. Ricky and S Waugh played the most tests and both would be there I would imagine, but they were selected at a young age so if a trick question I'll go Border But I've got a question on Shield who scored the most ducks (0) out of Bill Lawry from 85 games, Steve Waugh from 85 games, Matt Hayden from 89 games, David Boon from 119 games, Allan Border from 108 games or Michael Bevan from 118 games? 2nd question name players post 1970 that had Sheffield Shield averages above 54 no minimum games, there are some very interesting names on the list? Guys no googling. Sounds to me like a trick question.. and as Mike is a Blues hater I will say Steve Waugh. Post 1970. That is a lot of players from which to choose. Clue. Correct on S Waugh, but not what you think, I thought an opener for sure, in Hayden Boon or Lawry, but the one I thought you would choose is Bevan proving more so how good he actually was, very hard done by in his test career, but who was the most likely candidate he would replace was either Waugh twin, his record at first class level you could argue was better than both. on the post 1970 question one player in particular averaged over 100 from 8 games and recently we've been talking politics and sport. Another played for Victoria 133 FC games (but only 39 of them were sheffield shield games) you would probably remember him Baggers he retired just before I started following cricket as a kid. And a third had a funny technique, just like we've been discussing, but scored runs. Thinking Bob Cowper for Vic player. Cowper retired around 1970.. I started following cricket in the latish 70s. Paul Sheahan is another option. +xBaggers I've got to go but will be back on Friday, but one more question for you to ponder. Name the opposition and bonus for the year for this close test match Taylor scored a pair Bevan, S Waugh and Healy rescue Australia from a 1st innings disaster Boon delivers a 100 in the 2nd innings and finishes Not Out A big unit from WA outbowls G McGrath in the first innings then has to shoulder a massive work load in the 2nd innings when McGrath goes down (Bevan was not used as a bowler when he should have been) Big WA unit I am thinking Joe Angel. Recall Taylor pair.. latish in his career? the year say 95/96. The rest the memory bank is a little hazy.
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Here is another puzzler. Which Oz captain took 11 wickets in a match. It was in the 80s. Name the venue and the opposition for a bonus point.
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+x+x+x+x+xJust looking at the list, Bradman is on the list in 17th place. He has by far the highest average and least number of games and innings of the top 50. Who has the second least number of innings to make the top 50? Who is the highest ranked player on the list to average under 40? How many players in the list average under 40? Who has the least number of centuries in the list? Which player in the top 10 played the most number of test? 2nd least number of innings, Jones had a good average, if I remember correctly 55 Haydos also had a 55 average, Beven had a 60 average (he would be the answer to most Not Outs) G Chappell was brilliant. You may not know of him but as a QLDer I know Peter Burge had an average above 55 and I know he didn't play an excessive number of games so 2nd least number of innings to make the list of top 50 I'll go Burge I know he was better than Lawry and Lawry was good Highest ranked player to av under 40 would be Cox Players to average under 40, well I know of 3 Cam White, Bailey and Ferguson since they have scored more runs than M Waugh. I'll say 25% so 12 or 13 Least number of 100's Divenuto scored a lot of runs not many centuries, but least number of top 50. Probably that useless pile of garbage that was Dirk Whellam (NSW gift to stuff up Qld cricket) if he's still on the list, Is S Marsh on the list yet, if so he hasn't scored many. There you go I'm comparing S Marsh to Dirk Whellam, gives you some indication of how well Marsh is going. There you go Baggers another NSWman to be selected for Australia after only 5 FC games I forgot all about him. The list just keeps getting longer. Ricky and S Waugh played the most tests and both would be there I would imagine, but they were selected at a young age so if a trick question I'll go Border But I've got a question on Shield who scored the most ducks (0) out of Bill Lawry from 85 games, Steve Waugh from 85 games, Matt Hayden from 89 games, David Boon from 119 games, Allan Border from 108 games or Michael Bevan from 118 games? 2nd question name players post 1970 that had Sheffield Shield averages above 54 no minimum games, there are some very interesting names on the list? Guys no googling. Sounds to me like a trick question.. and as Mike is a Blues hater I will say Steve Waugh. Post 1970. That is a lot of players from which to choose. Clue. Correct on S Waugh, but not what you think, I thought an opener for sure, in Hayden Boon or Lawry, but the one I thought you would choose is Bevan proving more so how good he actually was, very hard done by in his test career, but who was the most likely candidate he would replace was either Waugh twin, his record at first class level you could argue was better than both. on the post 1970 question one player in particular averaged over 100 from 8 games and recently we've been talking politics and sport. Another played for Victoria 133 FC games (but only 39 of them were sheffield shield games) you would probably remember him Baggers he retired just before I started following cricket as a kid. And a third had a funny technique, just like we've been discussing, but scored runs. Thinking Bob Cowper for Vic player. Cowper retired around 1970.. I started following cricket in the latish 70s. Paul Sheahan is another option. +xBaggers I've got to go but will be back on Friday, but one more question for you to ponder. Name the opposition and bonus for the year for this close test match Taylor scored a pair Bevan, S Waugh and Healy rescue Australia from a 1st innings disaster Boon delivers a 100 in the 2nd innings and finishes Not Out A big unit from WA outbowls G McGrath in the first innings then has to shoulder a massive work load in the 2nd innings when McGrath goes down (Bevan was not used as a bowler when he should have been) Big WA unit I am thinking Joe Angel. Recall Taylor pair.. latish in his career? the year say 95/96. The rest the memory bank is a little hazy. I pasted the scorecard above, 94/95 in Pak :P Yes - it was Jo Angel - that is how I found it...
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+xHere is another puzzler. Which Oz captain took 11 wickets in a match. It was in the 80s. Name the venue and the opposition for a bonus point. Easy. AB vs WI SCG 88/89 Dead rubber test. 7 and 4 wickets. This really was just too easy... :P
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+x+xHere is another puzzler. Which Oz captain took 11 wickets in a match. It was in the 80s. Name the venue and the opposition for a bonus point. Easy. AB vs WI SCG 88/89 Dead rubber test. 4 and 7 wickets. This really was just too easy... :P Tougher one... A player in that test match shown up by Allan Border's all round game, had the chance to show up AB a little over a year later, who was the player and what was the Australian record (no longer held) that he claimed in the process? Technically he still holds the Australian record if declaration innings are not counted...
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+x+xJust looking at the list, Bradman is on the list in 17th place. He has by far the highest average and least number of games and innings of the top 50. Who has the second least number of innings to make the top 50? Who is the highest ranked player on the list to average under 40? How many players in the list average under 40? Who has the least number of centuries in the list? Which player in the top 10 played the most number of test? 2nd least number of innings, Jones had a good average, if I remember correctly 55 Haydos also had a 55 average, Beven had a 60 average (he would be the answer to most Not Outs) G Chappell was brilliant. You may not know of him but as a QLDer I know Peter Burge had an average above 55 and I know he didn't play an excessive number of games so 2nd least number of innings to make the list of top 50 I'll go Burge I know he was better than Lawry and Lawry was good Highest ranked player to av under 40 would be Cox Players to average under 40, well I know of 3 Cam White, Bailey and Ferguson since they have scored more runs than M Waugh. I'll say 25% so 12 or 13 Least number of 100's Divenuto scored a lot of runs not many centuries, but least number of top 50. Probably that useless pile of garbage that was Dirk Whellam (NSW gift to stuff up Qld cricket) if he's still on the list, Is S Marsh on the list yet, if so he hasn't scored many. There you go I'm comparing S Marsh to Dirk Whellam, gives you some indication of how well Marsh is going. There you go Baggers another NSWman to be selected for Australia after only 5 FC games I forgot all about him. The list just keeps getting longer. Ricky and S Waugh played the most tests and both would be there I would imagine, but they were selected at a young age so if a trick question I'll go Border But I've got a question on Shield who scored the most ducks (0) out of Bill Lawry from 85 games, Steve Waugh from 85 games, Matt Hayden from 89 games, David Boon from 119 games, Allan Border from 108 games or Michael Bevan from 118 games? 2nd question name players post 1970 that had Sheffield Shield averages above 54 no minimum games, there are some very interesting names on the list? Absolutely remarkable, got them right or extremely close. Peter Burge is right 138 innings. Lawry was next with 139 innings, Bradman had 96 innings. Burge was a brilliant Shield player who never really produced at Test level. Cox is right as the highest ranked with average under 40, 13 players under 40 average. They are Cox, Inverarity, Maher, Trimble, Favell, Bailey, Klinger, Ferguson, White, North, Daniel Marsh, Hills, Dansie Least number of 100s is Cameron White with only 11. However Wellham was next with 12, then Daniel Marsh with 13. Shaun Marsh has 14 and number 50 on the top 50 list. Mark Cosgrove is also on the list with only 14. Surprisingly Michael Hussy only made 16 Shield hundreds, he made 19 test centuries and 61 FC centuries. His Shield average was only 41.06. Overall first class average over 52, test average over 51. Very strange Di Venuto is the lowed number of centuries in the top 10 qith only 19. He also has by far most 50s with 67. Extraordinarily low conversion rate. Blewett is the player in the top 10 with the most test matches, 46. Most of the rest of the top 10 played 20 odd tests. Cox, Siddons and Di Venuto did not play any tests.
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+x+xJust looking at the list, Bradman is on the list in 17th place. He has by far the highest average and least number of games and innings of the top 50. Who has the second least number of innings to make the top 50? Who is the highest ranked player on the list to average under 40? How many players in the list average under 40? Who has the least number of centuries in the list? Which player in the top 10 played the most number of test? Pure guesses.. Cox Cox, Diva? Elliott? Blewett? Cox and Blewett correct well done
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+x+x+x+x+xOK I've grabbed test fans list Usman Khawaja - 43.92 Keep Shaun Marsh - 41.13 Will keep if he performs next test, I don't expect 100, but good solid score will suffice Glenn Maxwell - 41.10 Possible No 6 better than M Marsh Kurtis Patterson - 41.00 Not yet needs to continue away form in next shield games to prove that he has overcome away from home problems (iffy on Ashes) Joe Burns - 40.58 In on the condition he is given the same security as the current players of remaining home games (unless total failure) 1 game isn't enough for any player Cameron White - 40.38 Too old now should have been selected a while ago but for remaining tests of the summer possible Jake Lehmann - 39.62 No is on a downward turn currently needs to halt drop first Matthew Wade - 39.57 Solid performer a definite possible 6 Peter Handscomb - 39.02 I wouldn't drop him till test average drops to 35-37 currently still at 42 (name someone else that you're possibly guaranteed those numbers Better the devil you know) George Bailey - 38.80 Too old now, should never have been dropped in 2014 need him now but too late to re-ignite career Harris In regardless of next test, should be given a decent opportunity Head In one of our best performers in last 3 tests reminding me of a young Ponting Renshaw NO Hughes NO Larkin NO even you were questioning his shield selection a few weeks ago Finch NO was out 3 times in first test but for a no-ball, not even down the order Therefore my team is Harris Burns Khawaja S Marsh if scores runs otherwise I would gamble with Patterson because it is Melbourne and Sydney his favoured grounds or Cam White (unlikely) Head Handscomb/Wade/Maxwell(possibly for Sydney)/Stonis (for Sydney if they drop either Starc/Hazlewood/Cummins for 2nd spinner) JUST NO MORE M MARSH 30 TESTS IS ENOUGH For Ashes Warner back replacing worse of Burns or Harris, but if both performing BYE BYE WARNER Smith easily slots in for Marsh/Patterson or everyone drops down one and Head in at 6 all based on performance. Give this team the remaining 4 games
Little quizz for you all. Who can name the Top 10 Shield scorers. No peeking. Does not have to be in any order. Do you mean this season? Harris ,Doolan, Hughes, Shaun Marsh, Neser, Wade, Burns, Cooper, Larkin, Lehmann If you mean of all time Lehmann, Hookes, Voges, Dean Jones, Klinger, David Hussey, Siddons, Law. Probably some older players as well, Am I being an idiot not guessing Bradman? Maybe Ponsford Yeh. All time. Bradman and Ponsford are not on the list. You got two.. Lehmann and Siddons. Bradman and Ponsford have the two highest shield averages.
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+x+x+x+x+xJust looking at the list, Bradman is on the list in 17th place. He has by far the highest average and least number of games and innings of the top 50. Who has the second least number of innings to make the top 50? Who is the highest ranked player on the list to average under 40? How many players in the list average under 40? Who has the least number of centuries in the list? Which player in the top 10 played the most number of test? 2nd least number of innings, Jones had a good average, if I remember correctly 55 Haydos also had a 55 average, Beven had a 60 average (he would be the answer to most Not Outs) G Chappell was brilliant. You may not know of him but as a QLDer I know Peter Burge had an average above 55 and I know he didn't play an excessive number of games so 2nd least number of innings to make the list of top 50 I'll go Burge I know he was better than Lawry and Lawry was good Highest ranked player to av under 40 would be Cox Players to average under 40, well I know of 3 Cam White, Bailey and Ferguson since they have scored more runs than M Waugh. I'll say 25% so 12 or 13 Least number of 100's Divenuto scored a lot of runs not many centuries, but least number of top 50. Probably that useless pile of garbage that was Dirk Whellam (NSW gift to stuff up Qld cricket) if he's still on the list, Is S Marsh on the list yet, if so he hasn't scored many. There you go I'm comparing S Marsh to Dirk Whellam, gives you some indication of how well Marsh is going. There you go Baggers another NSWman to be selected for Australia after only 5 FC games I forgot all about him. The list just keeps getting longer. Ricky and S Waugh played the most tests and both would be there I would imagine, but they were selected at a young age so if a trick question I'll go Border But I've got a question on Shield who scored the most ducks (0) out of Bill Lawry from 85 games, Steve Waugh from 85 games, Matt Hayden from 89 games, David Boon from 119 games, Allan Border from 108 games or Michael Bevan from 118 games? 2nd question name players post 1970 that had Sheffield Shield averages above 54 no minimum games, there are some very interesting names on the list? Guys no googling. Sounds to me like a trick question.. and as Mike is a Blues hater I will say Steve Waugh. Post 1970. That is a lot of players from which to choose. Clue. Correct on S Waugh, but not what you think, I thought an opener for sure, in Hayden Boon or Lawry, but the one I thought you would choose is Bevan proving more so how good he actually was, very hard done by in his test career, but who was the most likely candidate he would replace was either Waugh twin, his record at first class level you could argue was better than both. on the post 1970 question one player in particular averaged over 100 from 8 games and recently we've been talking politics and sport. Another played for Victoria 133 FC games (but only 39 of them were sheffield shield games) you would probably remember him Baggers he retired just before I started following cricket as a kid. And a third had a funny technique, just like we've been discussing, but scored runs. Thinking Bob Cowper for Vic player. Cowper retired around 1970.. I started following cricket in the latish 70s. Paul Sheahan is another option. +xBaggers I've got to go but will be back on Friday, but one more question for you to ponder. Name the opposition and bonus for the year for this close test match Taylor scored a pair Bevan, S Waugh and Healy rescue Australia from a 1st innings disaster Boon delivers a 100 in the 2nd innings and finishes Not Out A big unit from WA outbowls G McGrath in the first innings then has to shoulder a massive work load in the 2nd innings when McGrath goes down (Bevan was not used as a bowler when he should have been) Big WA unit I am thinking Joe Angel. Recall Taylor pair.. latish in his career? the year say 95/96. The rest the memory bank is a little hazy. You got Sheahan shame you can't tell me more about him Baggers, I know he played a few tests and Chappelli goes on about him a bit. The other 2 Barry Richards 8 games over 100 average at shield level and the strange batting style Kepler Wessels av 54.3 Other interesting ones were Sobers averaged 57 but he was pre 1970 Paddles got the correct test. Paddles if I said Joe Angel you would have got it straight away, you're right only 4 tests to choose from.
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+x+x+x+x+x+xOK I've grabbed test fans list Usman Khawaja - 43.92 Keep Shaun Marsh - 41.13 Will keep if he performs next test, I don't expect 100, but good solid score will suffice Glenn Maxwell - 41.10 Possible No 6 better than M Marsh Kurtis Patterson - 41.00 Not yet needs to continue away form in next shield games to prove that he has overcome away from home problems (iffy on Ashes) Joe Burns - 40.58 In on the condition he is given the same security as the current players of remaining home games (unless total failure) 1 game isn't enough for any player Cameron White - 40.38 Too old now should have been selected a while ago but for remaining tests of the summer possible Jake Lehmann - 39.62 No is on a downward turn currently needs to halt drop first Matthew Wade - 39.57 Solid performer a definite possible 6 Peter Handscomb - 39.02 I wouldn't drop him till test average drops to 35-37 currently still at 42 (name someone else that you're possibly guaranteed those numbers Better the devil you know) George Bailey - 38.80 Too old now, should never have been dropped in 2014 need him now but too late to re-ignite career Harris In regardless of next test, should be given a decent opportunity Head In one of our best performers in last 3 tests reminding me of a young Ponting Renshaw NO Hughes NO Larkin NO even you were questioning his shield selection a few weeks ago Finch NO was out 3 times in first test but for a no-ball, not even down the order Therefore my team is Harris Burns Khawaja S Marsh if scores runs otherwise I would gamble with Patterson because it is Melbourne and Sydney his favoured grounds or Cam White (unlikely) Head Handscomb/Wade/Maxwell(possibly for Sydney)/Stonis (for Sydney if they drop either Starc/Hazlewood/Cummins for 2nd spinner) JUST NO MORE M MARSH 30 TESTS IS ENOUGH For Ashes Warner back replacing worse of Burns or Harris, but if both performing BYE BYE WARNER Smith easily slots in for Marsh/Patterson or everyone drops down one and Head in at 6 all based on performance. Give this team the remaining 4 games
Little quizz for you all. Who can name the Top 10 Shield scorers. No peeking. Does not have to be in any order. Do you mean this season? Harris ,Doolan, Hughes, Shaun Marsh, Neser, Wade, Burns, Cooper, Larkin, Lehmann If you mean of all time Lehmann, Hookes, Voges, Dean Jones, Klinger, David Hussey, Siddons, Law. Probably some older players as well, Am I being an idiot not guessing Bradman? Maybe Ponsford Yeh. All time. Bradman and Ponsford are not on the list. You got two.. Lehmann and Siddons. Bradman and Ponsford have the two highest shield averages. Technically Bradman and Barry Richards have the 2 highest shield averages
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+x+x+x+x+x+x+xOK I've grabbed test fans list Usman Khawaja - 43.92 Keep Shaun Marsh - 41.13 Will keep if he performs next test, I don't expect 100, but good solid score will suffice Glenn Maxwell - 41.10 Possible No 6 better than M Marsh Kurtis Patterson - 41.00 Not yet needs to continue away form in next shield games to prove that he has overcome away from home problems (iffy on Ashes) Joe Burns - 40.58 In on the condition he is given the same security as the current players of remaining home games (unless total failure) 1 game isn't enough for any player Cameron White - 40.38 Too old now should have been selected a while ago but for remaining tests of the summer possible Jake Lehmann - 39.62 No is on a downward turn currently needs to halt drop first Matthew Wade - 39.57 Solid performer a definite possible 6 Peter Handscomb - 39.02 I wouldn't drop him till test average drops to 35-37 currently still at 42 (name someone else that you're possibly guaranteed those numbers Better the devil you know) George Bailey - 38.80 Too old now, should never have been dropped in 2014 need him now but too late to re-ignite career Harris In regardless of next test, should be given a decent opportunity Head In one of our best performers in last 3 tests reminding me of a young Ponting Renshaw NO Hughes NO Larkin NO even you were questioning his shield selection a few weeks ago Finch NO was out 3 times in first test but for a no-ball, not even down the order Therefore my team is Harris Burns Khawaja S Marsh if scores runs otherwise I would gamble with Patterson because it is Melbourne and Sydney his favoured grounds or Cam White (unlikely) Head Handscomb/Wade/Maxwell(possibly for Sydney)/Stonis (for Sydney if they drop either Starc/Hazlewood/Cummins for 2nd spinner) JUST NO MORE M MARSH 30 TESTS IS ENOUGH For Ashes Warner back replacing worse of Burns or Harris, but if both performing BYE BYE WARNER Smith easily slots in for Marsh/Patterson or everyone drops down one and Head in at 6 all based on performance. Give this team the remaining 4 games
Little quizz for you all. Who can name the Top 10 Shield scorers. No peeking. Does not have to be in any order. Do you mean this season? Harris ,Doolan, Hughes, Shaun Marsh, Neser, Wade, Burns, Cooper, Larkin, Lehmann If you mean of all time Lehmann, Hookes, Voges, Dean Jones, Klinger, David Hussey, Siddons, Law. Probably some older players as well, Am I being an idiot not guessing Bradman? Maybe Ponsford Yeh. All time. Bradman and Ponsford are not on the list. You got two.. Lehmann and Siddons. Bradman and Ponsford have the two highest shield averages. Technically Bradman and Barry Richards have the 2 highest shield averages There must have been an innings minimum on the list I saw.
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+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+xOK I've grabbed test fans list Usman Khawaja - 43.92 Keep Shaun Marsh - 41.13 Will keep if he performs next test, I don't expect 100, but good solid score will suffice Glenn Maxwell - 41.10 Possible No 6 better than M Marsh Kurtis Patterson - 41.00 Not yet needs to continue away form in next shield games to prove that he has overcome away from home problems (iffy on Ashes) Joe Burns - 40.58 In on the condition he is given the same security as the current players of remaining home games (unless total failure) 1 game isn't enough for any player Cameron White - 40.38 Too old now should have been selected a while ago but for remaining tests of the summer possible Jake Lehmann - 39.62 No is on a downward turn currently needs to halt drop first Matthew Wade - 39.57 Solid performer a definite possible 6 Peter Handscomb - 39.02 I wouldn't drop him till test average drops to 35-37 currently still at 42 (name someone else that you're possibly guaranteed those numbers Better the devil you know) George Bailey - 38.80 Too old now, should never have been dropped in 2014 need him now but too late to re-ignite career Harris In regardless of next test, should be given a decent opportunity Head In one of our best performers in last 3 tests reminding me of a young Ponting Renshaw NO Hughes NO Larkin NO even you were questioning his shield selection a few weeks ago Finch NO was out 3 times in first test but for a no-ball, not even down the order Therefore my team is Harris Burns Khawaja S Marsh if scores runs otherwise I would gamble with Patterson because it is Melbourne and Sydney his favoured grounds or Cam White (unlikely) Head Handscomb/Wade/Maxwell(possibly for Sydney)/Stonis (for Sydney if they drop either Starc/Hazlewood/Cummins for 2nd spinner) JUST NO MORE M MARSH 30 TESTS IS ENOUGH For Ashes Warner back replacing worse of Burns or Harris, but if both performing BYE BYE WARNER Smith easily slots in for Marsh/Patterson or everyone drops down one and Head in at 6 all based on performance. Give this team the remaining 4 games
Little quizz for you all. Who can name the Top 10 Shield scorers. No peeking. Does not have to be in any order. #1 is Boof But was he ever behind Bevan at any point? Not sure. But he finished three thousand more runs than Bevan. Bev was a better red ball cricketer than he was given credit for. Bob Massie always believed overcast aided swing. His 18 wickets prove it. Incredible to think that you could take that many poles in the one game. Have you seen footage of his feat? Much more than likely watched Massie highlights... But its not in my memory bank... I have just been so indoctrinated with Ashes Bodyline (32/33), 74/75, 81 and 05 - that its hard for me to accept that there have ever been any more Ashes series bar the 1948 (99.94 finish) with a bit of Botham and Broad in 86/87, Border 89 and Warne 93. Not really a fan of Bevan outside his useful bowling... Did you ever see the Aussie made Bodyline mini series Many, many many times... Many times... Loved it as a small fry... Jardine was such a hero - I always wanted a harlequins caps ;-) Born in the British Raj, educated at Oxbridge, a lawyer, a gifted cricket captain, living the dream... Most Australian cricket tragics of the time would not agree with that. They saw him as an arrogant, POMpous Englishman. He was certainly portrayed by Hugo Weaving as just that. Win at all costs.. Doing this by resorting to leg theory was against the spirit of cricket.. some called it cheating. Could never allow those upstart colonials and this brash young Bradman beat the best England had to offer. I was born in NZ. But my father was an English public school boy. I had a different take on a world view to you :P If underarm wasn't cheating, fast leg theory was more than okay :P Besides - Lillee and Thommo was much faster than Larwood in 74/75.. lest we forget... And played in exactly the identical spirit of cricket... Heck... did you see the Windies after they toured Australia in the late 1970's... Bodyline was for amateurs... But here's the real problem - Aus refused to play NZ in tests and England would. So NZ'ers just typically love England more than CA. It is what it is. England looked after us, and Australia shat on us... This is the bluntest honesty you will hear, unfortunately it is still true today. Forget Gallipoli - England looks after NZC better than CA ever will... Besides my father's origins, it is really easy to support England in the Ashes. Like really easy. The world dislikes CA and BCCI both. Push come to shove, I like BCCI more than CA myself - but that's just my opinion. But they're easily the two most disliked money grubbing power playing boards in world cricket - even if BCCI is richer and more powerful to make CA its servant... I get Aussies intensely despise BCCI and will not understand this... but CA is worse... believe me or not - want proof - where's your Bangladesh 2018 tour? Exactly.... It is good to have a Kiwi posting here to provide perspective. You really seem to get me... And I really seem to get you... We can balance out a lot of opinion on here for the good of the forum... I appreciate you understanding my p.o.v... ;-) Sincerely Decentric - you speak your mind, I speak my mind - and yet we find mutual respect - this is rare on forums. You're a top bloke. ;-) (I think Baggers is tops too but I don't get his love affair for the Aus seam attack - he wants to talk to me about Bradman - I have nothing to counter him with :P When BCCI fans start Tendulkar > BRadman I either switch off entirely and do laundry or look up Sangakarra stats - seriously :P) - it is what it is) One of the greatest strengths of forums is discussing a sport with those who provide a different perspective. Having pay TV, I've seen a lot other Test cricket played between other countries than Australia. Many of these games have been played in a far better spirit. Australia has been too acrimonious on the pitch IMO.None of the 442 mods post regularly here. I've asked admin to create one, but haven't received an answer. ATM there is no need, as most posters respect others' opinions. I don't want to see any trolls destroy what is currently here though. Outside the Australian Football section, this Cricket section is now the most active on 442/Inside Sport. Most of the cricket posters don't follow football either. The pleasing phenomenon is that there is a lot of cricket content being created by you, Baggers, Test Fan and Mike R. It is also inducing a number others who are active on the football forum to contribute more regularly. There are some informative posts that have expanded my knowledge. You four post a bit lIke Quickflick (who occasionally posts here), Grazorblade (a regular cricket poster), Glory Perth, Benjamin and Gyfox, who tend to create quality content on 442 Football. I intend to ring a mate of mine who is a mod, to discuss moderation here.IMO this is the best sports forum I've been associated with in 12 years ATM. Re Moderation: Part of the reason this website is so good may actually be the lack of moderation. Many websites ruin the user experience with partisan and bias moderation. And all that does is breed sycophancy or resentment. Here people speak their minds without being treated like naughty little schoolboys nor sucking up to some moderator. And the conversation just flows. Everyone seems thick skinned enough to handle the criticisms of their national teams and board's weaknesses (and lets be honest - no team is perfect right now, and the people running world cricket for their respective nations are not doing the best jobs possible in anyone's opinion). Baggers certainly drives most the content around here. I debate fiercely with him at times (Aus seam attack and green pitches have been recurring), but I think he's a top bloke. This is a good forum. And I think the lack of moderators helps it to be so... Re Acrimony: Yeah, there's more than a bit of truth to this. SA and IND can get quite nasty when playing Aus, and yet be friendly affairs when playing NZ or even England (as Jimmy is mellowing these days and Stokes is on his best behaviour since Bristol). Part of the problem is the former players and their talk of "body language" and "letting the opposition know its a contest" rah rah - be it from Haddin, Warne or Johnson, that seems to want to perpetuate the cycle. I think Cummins has the perfect blend of banter - he doesn't sledge and glare and give off all the hostile energy as such - but he lets the batsman know that he has not missed a trick and is in the game. He says stuff with a big smile on his face, even if the batsman is not smiling. And he copped it back from Pant without incident. That to me as a fan is the perfect blend. Pant and Pat did their jobs very well, and can hold their heads up high with their on-field behavior. And that is where the line should be drawn. Sangakarra was much the same. Haze I don't think has found the perfect blend yet, but he said that he's working on it - and I believe him. Now he's not talking, but he is still giving glares... It is unnecessary, he should follow Cummins lead... He absolutely took the mickey out of Rahane (I could be wrong on which batsman it was) and it was good by-play. Cummins got the result he wanted, the batsman kept swinging. But I don't quite get all the body language and contest garb. For NZC, Boult just does his job without any fuss or issue. Wagner looks like he's enduring kidney stones, but that's aimed more to himself and not the batsman. I like watching banter, as such NZC can get to be more than a bit dull at times, with the last player to engage in banter being Grant Elliott (against Aus funnily enough), but that's the McCullum and KW way for now... and as an extreme I don't like watching hostilities on a cricket field at all. 
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+x+x+x+x+x+xJust looking at the list, Bradman is on the list in 17th place. He has by far the highest average and least number of games and innings of the top 50. Who has the second least number of innings to make the top 50? Who is the highest ranked player on the list to average under 40? How many players in the list average under 40? Who has the least number of centuries in the list? Which player in the top 10 played the most number of test? 2nd least number of innings, Jones had a good average, if I remember correctly 55 Haydos also had a 55 average, Beven had a 60 average (he would be the answer to most Not Outs) G Chappell was brilliant. You may not know of him but as a QLDer I know Peter Burge had an average above 55 and I know he didn't play an excessive number of games so 2nd least number of innings to make the list of top 50 I'll go Burge I know he was better than Lawry and Lawry was good Highest ranked player to av under 40 would be Cox Players to average under 40, well I know of 3 Cam White, Bailey and Ferguson since they have scored more runs than M Waugh. I'll say 25% so 12 or 13 Least number of 100's Divenuto scored a lot of runs not many centuries, but least number of top 50. Probably that useless pile of garbage that was Dirk Whellam (NSW gift to stuff up Qld cricket) if he's still on the list, Is S Marsh on the list yet, if so he hasn't scored many. There you go I'm comparing S Marsh to Dirk Whellam, gives you some indication of how well Marsh is going. There you go Baggers another NSWman to be selected for Australia after only 5 FC games I forgot all about him. The list just keeps getting longer. Ricky and S Waugh played the most tests and both would be there I would imagine, but they were selected at a young age so if a trick question I'll go Border But I've got a question on Shield who scored the most ducks (0) out of Bill Lawry from 85 games, Steve Waugh from 85 games, Matt Hayden from 89 games, David Boon from 119 games, Allan Border from 108 games or Michael Bevan from 118 games? 2nd question name players post 1970 that had Sheffield Shield averages above 54 no minimum games, there are some very interesting names on the list? Guys no googling. Sounds to me like a trick question.. and as Mike is a Blues hater I will say Steve Waugh. Post 1970. That is a lot of players from which to choose. Clue. Correct on S Waugh, but not what you think, I thought an opener for sure, in Hayden Boon or Lawry, but the one I thought you would choose is Bevan proving more so how good he actually was, very hard done by in his test career, but who was the most likely candidate he would replace was either Waugh twin, his record at first class level you could argue was better than both. on the post 1970 question one player in particular averaged over 100 from 8 games and recently we've been talking politics and sport. Another played for Victoria 133 FC games (but only 39 of them were sheffield shield games) you would probably remember him Baggers he retired just before I started following cricket as a kid. And a third had a funny technique, just like we've been discussing, but scored runs. Thinking Bob Cowper for Vic player. Cowper retired around 1970.. I started following cricket in the latish 70s. Paul Sheahan is another option. +xBaggers I've got to go but will be back on Friday, but one more question for you to ponder. Name the opposition and bonus for the year for this close test match Taylor scored a pair Bevan, S Waugh and Healy rescue Australia from a 1st innings disaster Boon delivers a 100 in the 2nd innings and finishes Not Out A big unit from WA outbowls G McGrath in the first innings then has to shoulder a massive work load in the 2nd innings when McGrath goes down (Bevan was not used as a bowler when he should have been) Big WA unit I am thinking Joe Angel. Recall Taylor pair.. latish in his career? the year say 95/96. The rest the memory bank is a little hazy. You got Sheahan shame you can't tell me more about him Baggers, I know he played a few tests and Chappelli goes on about him a bit. The other 2 Barry Richards 8 games over 100 average at shield level and the strange batting style Kepler Wessels av 54.3 Other interesting ones were Sobers averaged 57 but he was pre 1970 Paddles got the correct test. Paddles if I said Joe Angel you would have got it straight away, you're right only 4 tests to choose from. Barry Richards of course.. had forgotten he played several seasons here.. Sth Oz? Wessels the walking wicket early in his career when ball pitched on his pads. Can not tell you much about Sheahan. Only saw last part of his career. He was evidently well educated and well spoken. A former school teacher I think.
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+x+xHere is another puzzler. Which Oz captain took 11 wickets in a match. It was in the 80s. Name the venue and the opposition for a bonus point. Easy. AB vs WI SCG 88/89 Dead rubber test. 7 and 4 wickets. This really was just too easy... :P 
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Another VIC. 43 Tests.. 2807r. @37.4. Played last match in 1974.
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+x+x+xHere is another puzzler. Which Oz captain took 11 wickets in a match. It was in the 80s. Name the venue and the opposition for a bonus point. Easy. AB vs WI SCG 88/89 Dead rubber test. 4 and 7 wickets. This really was just too easy... :P Tougher one... A player in that test match shown up by Allan Border's all round game, had the chance to show up AB a little over a year later, who was the player and what was the Australian record (no longer held) that he claimed in the process? Technically he still holds the Australian record if declaration innings are not counted... Reminder - this guy played in the Allan Border 11 wickets test... For a further hint - I will say focus on the bowlers...
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+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+xOK I've grabbed test fans list Usman Khawaja - 43.92 Keep Shaun Marsh - 41.13 Will keep if he performs next test, I don't expect 100, but good solid score will suffice Glenn Maxwell - 41.10 Possible No 6 better than M Marsh Kurtis Patterson - 41.00 Not yet needs to continue away form in next shield games to prove that he has overcome away from home problems (iffy on Ashes) Joe Burns - 40.58 In on the condition he is given the same security as the current players of remaining home games (unless total failure) 1 game isn't enough for any player Cameron White - 40.38 Too old now should have been selected a while ago but for remaining tests of the summer possible Jake Lehmann - 39.62 No is on a downward turn currently needs to halt drop first Matthew Wade - 39.57 Solid performer a definite possible 6 Peter Handscomb - 39.02 I wouldn't drop him till test average drops to 35-37 currently still at 42 (name someone else that you're possibly guaranteed those numbers Better the devil you know) George Bailey - 38.80 Too old now, should never have been dropped in 2014 need him now but too late to re-ignite career Harris In regardless of next test, should be given a decent opportunity Head In one of our best performers in last 3 tests reminding me of a young Ponting Renshaw NO Hughes NO Larkin NO even you were questioning his shield selection a few weeks ago Finch NO was out 3 times in first test but for a no-ball, not even down the order Therefore my team is Harris Burns Khawaja S Marsh if scores runs otherwise I would gamble with Patterson because it is Melbourne and Sydney his favoured grounds or Cam White (unlikely) Head Handscomb/Wade/Maxwell(possibly for Sydney)/Stonis (for Sydney if they drop either Starc/Hazlewood/Cummins for 2nd spinner) JUST NO MORE M MARSH 30 TESTS IS ENOUGH For Ashes Warner back replacing worse of Burns or Harris, but if both performing BYE BYE WARNER Smith easily slots in for Marsh/Patterson or everyone drops down one and Head in at 6 all based on performance. Give this team the remaining 4 games
Little quizz for you all. Who can name the Top 10 Shield scorers. No peeking. Does not have to be in any order. #1 is Boof But was he ever behind Bevan at any point? Not sure. But he finished three thousand more runs than Bevan. Bev was a better red ball cricketer than he was given credit for. Bob Massie always believed overcast aided swing. His 18 wickets prove it. Incredible to think that you could take that many poles in the one game. Have you seen footage of his feat? Much more than likely watched Massie highlights... But its not in my memory bank... I have just been so indoctrinated with Ashes Bodyline (32/33), 74/75, 81 and 05 - that its hard for me to accept that there have ever been any more Ashes series bar the 1948 (99.94 finish) with a bit of Botham and Broad in 86/87, Border 89 and Warne 93. Not really a fan of Bevan outside his useful bowling... Did you ever see the Aussie made Bodyline mini series Many, many many times... Many times... Loved it as a small fry... Jardine was such a hero - I always wanted a harlequins caps ;-) Born in the British Raj, educated at Oxbridge, a lawyer, a gifted cricket captain, living the dream... Most Australian cricket tragics of the time would not agree with that. They saw him as an arrogant, POMpous Englishman. He was certainly portrayed by Hugo Weaving as just that. Win at all costs.. Doing this by resorting to leg theory was against the spirit of cricket.. some called it cheating. Could never allow those upstart colonials and this brash young Bradman beat the best England had to offer. I was born in NZ. But my father was an English public school boy. I had a different take on a world view to you :P If underarm wasn't cheating, fast leg theory was more than okay :P Besides - Lillee and Thommo was much faster than Larwood in 74/75.. lest we forget... And played in exactly the identical spirit of cricket... Heck... did you see the Windies after they toured Australia in the late 1970's... Bodyline was for amateurs... But here's the real problem - Aus refused to play NZ in tests and England would. So NZ'ers just typically love England more than CA. It is what it is. England looked after us, and Australia shat on us... This is the bluntest honesty you will hear, unfortunately it is still true today. Forget Gallipoli - England looks after NZC better than CA ever will... Besides my father's origins, it is really easy to support England in the Ashes. Like really easy. The world dislikes CA and BCCI both. Push come to shove, I like BCCI more than CA myself - but that's just my opinion. But they're easily the two most disliked money grubbing power playing boards in world cricket - even if BCCI is richer and more powerful to make CA its servant... I get Aussies intensely despise BCCI and will not understand this... but CA is worse... believe me or not - want proof - where's your Bangladesh 2018 tour? Exactly.... It is good to have a Kiwi posting here to provide perspective. You really seem to get me... And I really seem to get you... We can balance out a lot of opinion on here for the good of the forum... I appreciate you understanding my p.o.v... ;-) Sincerely Decentric - you speak your mind, I speak my mind - and yet we find mutual respect - this is rare on forums. You're a top bloke. ;-) (I think Baggers is tops too but I don't get his love affair for the Aus seam attack - he wants to talk to me about Bradman - I have nothing to counter him with :P When BCCI fans start Tendulkar > BRadman I either switch off entirely and do laundry or look up Sangakarra stats - seriously :P) - it is what it is) One of the greatest strengths of forums is discussing a sport with those who provide a different perspective. Having pay TV, I've seen a lot other Test cricket played between other countries than Australia. Many of these games have been played in a far better spirit. Australia has been too acrimonious on the pitch IMO.None of the 442 mods post regularly here. I've asked admin to create one, but haven't received an answer. ATM there is no need, as most posters respect others' opinions. I don't want to see any trolls destroy what is currently here though. Outside the Australian Football section, this Cricket section is now the most active on 442/Inside Sport. Most of the cricket posters don't follow football either. The pleasing phenomenon is that there is a lot of cricket content being created by you, Baggers, Test Fan and Mike R. It is also inducing a number others who are active on the football forum to contribute more regularly. There are some informative posts that have expanded my knowledge. You four post a bit lIke Quickflick (who occasionally posts here), Grazorblade (a regular cricket poster), Glory Perth, Benjamin and Gyfox, who tend to create quality content on 442 Football. I intend to ring a mate of mine who is a mod, to discuss moderation here.IMO this is the best sports forum I've been associated with in 12 years ATM. Re Moderation: Part of the reason this website is so good may actually be the lack of moderation. Many websites ruin the user experience with partisan and bias moderation. And all that does is breed sycophancy or resentment. Here people speak their minds without being treated like naughty little schoolboys nor sucking up to some moderator. And the conversation just flows. Everyone seems thick skinned enough to handle the criticisms of their national teams and board's weaknesses (and lets be honest - no team is perfect right now, and the people running world cricket for their respective nations are not doing the best jobs possible in anyone's opinion). Baggers certainly drives most the content around here. I debate fiercely with him at times (Aus seam attack and green pitches have been recurring), but I think he's a top bloke. I've set up a separate thread on this topic, Paddles. Nothing posted here so far would concern any of the mods on this forum.
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+x+x+x+xHere is another puzzler. Which Oz captain took 11 wickets in a match. It was in the 80s. Name the venue and the opposition for a bonus point. Easy. AB vs WI SCG 88/89 Dead rubber test. 4 and 7 wickets. This really was just too easy... :P Tougher one... A player in that test match shown up by Allan Border's all round game, had the chance to show up AB a little over a year later, who was the player and what was the Australian record (no longer held) that he claimed in the process? Technically he still holds the Australian record if declaration innings are not counted... Reminder - this guy played in the Allan Border 11 wickets test... For a further hint - I will say focus on the bowlers... Slow bowler.. Greg Matthews? Have a feeling he got 10 wkts in the famous tied test in India. the one where Jones almost died from heat exhaustion. That is one less than AB tho. Did he get a ton in the series too?
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+x+x+x+x+xHere is another puzzler. Which Oz captain took 11 wickets in a match. It was in the 80s. Name the venue and the opposition for a bonus point. Easy. AB vs WI SCG 88/89 Dead rubber test. 4 and 7 wickets. This really was just too easy... :P Tougher one... A player in that test match shown up by Allan Border's all round game, had the chance to show up AB a little over a year later, who was the player and what was the Australian record (no longer held) that he claimed in the process? Technically he still holds the Australian record if declaration innings are not counted... Reminder - this guy played in the Allan Border 11 wickets test... For a further hint - I will say focus on the bowlers... Slow bowler.. Greg Matthews? Another option Peter Who Taylor. Hohns also played in the AB 11 match - It is difficult to give clues - because the record makes it so obvious...
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+x+x+x+x+xHere is another puzzler. Which Oz captain took 11 wickets in a match. It was in the 80s. Name the venue and the opposition for a bonus point. Easy. AB vs WI SCG 88/89 Dead rubber test. 4 and 7 wickets. This really was just too easy... :P Tougher one... A player in that test match shown up by Allan Border's all round game, had the chance to show up AB a little over a year later, who was the player and what was the Australian record (no longer held) that he claimed in the process? Technically he still holds the Australian record if declaration innings are not counted... Reminder - this guy played in the Allan Border 11 wickets test... For a further hint - I will say focus on the bowlers... Slow bowler.. Greg Matthews? Have a feeling he got 10 wkts in the famous tied test in India. the one where Jones almost died from heat exhaustion. That is one less than AB tho. Did he get a ton in the series too? Who uttered these immortal words? Some guys chew gum. Some chew their nails. Some abuse their team-mates. I played air guitar. I sang to the crowd. I sang to myself. I said things to the good sorts in the crowd. Can someone please tell me what's wrong with that? People say Marc Waugh was a great player. I think I averaged 41, the same as him, and he played in a team that rarely lost. I played in a side that rarely won.
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+x+x+x+x+x+xHere is another puzzler. Which Oz captain took 11 wickets in a match. It was in the 80s. Name the venue and the opposition for a bonus point. Easy. AB vs WI SCG 88/89 Dead rubber test. 4 and 7 wickets. This really was just too easy... :P Tougher one... A player in that test match shown up by Allan Border's all round game, had the chance to show up AB a little over a year later, who was the player and what was the Australian record (no longer held) that he claimed in the process? Technically he still holds the Australian record if declaration innings are not counted... Reminder - this guy played in the Allan Border 11 wickets test... For a further hint - I will say focus on the bowlers... Slow bowler.. Greg Matthews? Have a feeling he got 10 wkts in the famous tied test in India. the one where Jones almost died from heat exhaustion. That is one less than AB tho. Did he get a ton in the series too? I did Greg Matthews. Tied test was 1986 - that was before Border's 11. The answer was Peter Taylor, in March 1990 he claimed the Australian record score for a night watchman, where he was the highest scorer in a completed innings - even scoring more than AB (who was left not out). Before you say Jason Gillespie's 201 - that is the new record - but the innings was never completed as Aus declared after just 4 wickets... So for completed innings, Taylor's record for Aus still stands. It was a tricky one... But like I say - if I said night watchman - you'd get it too easily.
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+x+x+x+x+x+x+xHere is another puzzler. Which Oz captain took 11 wickets in a match. It was in the 80s. Name the venue and the opposition for a bonus point. Easy. AB vs WI SCG 88/89 Dead rubber test. 4 and 7 wickets. This really was just too easy... :P Tougher one... A player in that test match shown up by Allan Border's all round game, had the chance to show up AB a little over a year later, who was the player and what was the Australian record (no longer held) that he claimed in the process? Technically he still holds the Australian record if declaration innings are not counted... Reminder - this guy played in the Allan Border 11 wickets test... For a further hint - I will say focus on the bowlers... Slow bowler.. Greg Matthews? Have a feeling he got 10 wkts in the famous tied test in India. the one where Jones almost died from heat exhaustion. That is one less than AB tho. Did he get a ton in the series too? I did Greg Matthews. Tied test was 1986 - that was before Border's 11. The answer was Peter Taylor, in March 1990 he claimed the Australian record score for a night watchman, where he was the highest scorer in a completed innings - even scoring more than AB (who was left not out). Before you say Jason Gillespie's 201 - that is the new record - but the innings was never completed as Aus declared after just 4 wickets... So for completed innings, Taylor's record for Aus still stands. It was a tricky one... But like I say - if I said night watchman - you'd get it too easily. What was the record score or should I take a look.
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+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+xHere is another puzzler. Which Oz captain took 11 wickets in a match. It was in the 80s. Name the venue and the opposition for a bonus point. Easy. AB vs WI SCG 88/89 Dead rubber test. 4 and 7 wickets. This really was just too easy... :P Tougher one... A player in that test match shown up by Allan Border's all round game, had the chance to show up AB a little over a year later, who was the player and what was the Australian record (no longer held) that he claimed in the process? Technically he still holds the Australian record if declaration innings are not counted... Reminder - this guy played in the Allan Border 11 wickets test... For a further hint - I will say focus on the bowlers... Slow bowler.. Greg Matthews? Have a feeling he got 10 wkts in the famous tied test in India. the one where Jones almost died from heat exhaustion. That is one less than AB tho. Did he get a ton in the series too? I did Greg Matthews. Tied test was 1986 - that was before Border's 11. The answer was Peter Taylor, in March 1990 he claimed the Australian record score for a night watchman, where he was the highest scorer in a completed innings - even scoring more than AB (who was left not out). Before you say Jason Gillespie's 201 - that is the new record - but the innings was never completed as Aus declared after just 4 wickets... So for completed innings, Taylor's record for Aus still stands. It was a tricky one... But like I say - if I said night watchman - you'd get it too easily. What was the record score or should I take a look. Taylor - 87 iirc..
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+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+xHere is another puzzler. Which Oz captain took 11 wickets in a match. It was in the 80s. Name the venue and the opposition for a bonus point. Easy. AB vs WI SCG 88/89 Dead rubber test. 4 and 7 wickets. This really was just too easy... :P Tougher one... A player in that test match shown up by Allan Border's all round game, had the chance to show up AB a little over a year later, who was the player and what was the Australian record (no longer held) that he claimed in the process? Technically he still holds the Australian record if declaration innings are not counted... Reminder - this guy played in the Allan Border 11 wickets test... For a further hint - I will say focus on the bowlers... Slow bowler.. Greg Matthews? Have a feeling he got 10 wkts in the famous tied test in India. the one where Jones almost died from heat exhaustion. That is one less than AB tho. Did he get a ton in the series too? I did Greg Matthews. Tied test was 1986 - that was before Border's 11. The answer was Peter Taylor, in March 1990 he claimed the Australian record score for a night watchman, where he was the highest scorer in a completed innings - even scoring more than AB (who was left not out). Before you say Jason Gillespie's 201 - that is the new record - but the innings was never completed as Aus declared after just 4 wickets... So for completed innings, Taylor's record for Aus still stands. It was a tricky one... But like I say - if I said night watchman - you'd get it too easily. What was the record score or should I take a look. Paddles you must have you heard about the feud between Greg Matthews and the Waugh boys as you seem more cluey about these things than I.
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