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+xHandscombe and Renshaw have had good first innings, putting themselves back in contention. I think Renshaw should not have been dropped at all! Along with Smith I thought he was our best performer in Asia - batting time. He played a resolute defensive innings in Tasmania when I saw him in the Shield last season - on a wicket doing a lot. It may have been against the Duke ball too. Renshaw has a very good defence with sound technique. I've also seen him play well in Asian Tests, when wickets were tumbling around him. He is is very young too. On Inside Cricket on Fox Sports Allan Border said the rationale for dropping Renshaw was that he had lost his offensive shots - and subsequently his confidence. Even before Bancroft was caught for ball tampering, he had a technical flaw which needs rectifying. The TV commentators in SA, former Test batters too, identified this in SA with slow motion replays. One of the TCA members is a former state selector and a former Shield vice captain. He goes through about every player in Australia I ask him about and identifies there shortcomings - particularly Shaun Marsh, who he thinks is too square on too often. He likes the look of Renshaw though. About the only batters he struggles to find technical fault with are Lara, Tendulkar and Kane Williamson.
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+x+x+x+x+x+xPattinson is fit? Excellent news. One of my favourite bowlers in the world and ever. His SR in tests of a wicket every 47 balls is no fluke. Helluva bowler. Great talent. The poor bloke is injury prone though and has a metal plate in his back. Yeah - but I love any swing bowler who bowls at 145+ like Pattinson. I pity the batsman like Mr T pities the fool ;-) Most cricket fans follow their team's batsmen. I could watch Pattinson bowl all day and be very satisfied. Pattinson may be able to bowl swing but I d not term him a swing bowler. He is a Cummins like bowler..fast, intimidating.. an enforcer. Had Patto not had this dreadful run of injuries I dare say we would not have seen Cummins in our Test attack. Imran, Waqar, Wasim, Bond, Patto - they're all fast - and they all swing or swung it. They may not bowl at 120km/h like so many of the swingers - they may even all be express (at their best) but they are and were all swingers of the ball. So many fast bowlers are simply express - Patto swings it at express 145km/h pace. I acknowledge this fact and give him props for it. Just as I do for Imran, Waqar, Was, Steyn and Bond. Just because they swung it at 140+ does not mean that they were any less swing bowlers compared Anderson, Boult, Agarkar, Khan, Doull, Flemming etc. Personally - 145+ and swinging it - makes someone a bowler that I really want to watch. :-) Patto is an express swinger - like Imran, Waqar, Was, and Bond all were. It is a smaller club - but he is in it for mine. If someone swings it regularly - they're a swing bowler for mine. All the better for it - the faster that they bowl. A swing bowler for mine is simply swinging it - and says nothing about gentle pace. Because Imran, Wasim, Waqar, Steyn and Bond were far from gentle. And so is Pattinson. For mine Nick Winter is Australia's most promising swing bowler.The Canberra-born leftie had the English Duke talking last Shield season. Took 25 (or was it more) poles in his first three games with the Duke. If CA has half a brain he should be the first quick picked for England. He could be another Terry Alderman. Any idea how fast he bowls, Baggers? I hope he isn't another 120 kph bowler like Chadd Sayers. If Winter bowls about 130kph, has an action that doesn't take much out of him and can bowl long spells, he sounds good to me.
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+xI notice that Handscomb is still batting way back in the crease, however. I'm just not sure that technique will stand up to scrutiny in international cricket. I think Handscomb has to improve this unorthodoxy as Test bowlers have probably already worked him out.
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+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+xPattinson is fit? Excellent news. One of my favourite bowlers in the world and ever. His SR in tests of a wicket every 47 balls is no fluke. Helluva bowler. Great talent. The poor bloke is injury prone though and has a metal plate in his back. Yeah - but I love any swing bowler who bowls at 145+ like Pattinson. I pity the batsman like Mr T pities the fool ;-) Most cricket fans follow their team's batsmen. I could watch Pattinson bowl all day and be very satisfied. Pattinson may be able to bowl swing but I d not term him a swing bowler. He is a Cummins like bowler..fast, intimidating.. an enforcer. Had Patto not had this dreadful run of injuries I dare say we would not have seen Cummins in our Test attack. Imran, Waqar, Wasim, Bond, Patto - they're all fast - and they all swing or swung it. They may not bowl at 120km/h like so many of the swingers - they may even all be express (at their best) but they are and were all swingers of the ball. So many fast bowlers are simply express - Patto swings it at express 145km/h pace. I acknowledge this fact and give him props for it. Just as I do for Imran, Waqar, Was, Steyn and Bond. Just because they swung it at 140+ does not mean that they were any less swing bowlers compared Anderson, Boult, Agarkar, Khan, Doull, Flemming etc. Personally - 145+ and swinging it - makes someone a bowler that I really want to watch. :-) Patto is an express swinger - like Imran, Waqar, Was, and Bond all were. It is a smaller club - but he is in it for mine. If someone swings it regularly - they're a swing bowler for mine. All the better for it - the faster that they bowl. A swing bowler for mine is simply swinging it - and says nothing about gentle pace. Because Imran, Wasim, Waqar, Steyn and Bond were far from gentle. And so is Pattinson. My pet hate is when a post vanishes. Patto is not a specialist swing bowler.. but like the impressive Bond has the ability to swing a ball. Jimmy Anderson is a specialist swing bowler. Stu Broad can also swing a ball but he is a specialist seamer. Ditto Hazlewood . Do we pigeon hole Starc as a specialist swing bowler given his most lethal wicket taking delivery is the new ball in swinging yorker? I see Starc as a licorice allsorts bowler. Reason he is so successful in limited overs and in Asia. Chadd Sayers is a specialist swing bowler because his predominant delivery is where he imparts swing rather than seam. Wasim was a specialist swing bowler.. as was Waqar. For mine Nick Winter is Australia's most promising swing bowler.The Canberra-born leftie had the English Duke talking last Shield season. Took 25 (or was it more) poles in his first three games with the Duke. If CA has half a brain he should be the first quick picked for England. He could be another Terry Alderman. As for Starc, he averages over 50 in UAE and India both. So I really don't know about him being successful in Asia bar that SL tour. There is an argument to be had that he just cashed in on a pathetic SL batting line up struggling post Jaya, Sanga and Dilshan retirements with new guys who had never encountered someone bowling at 150km/h. Starc is averaging over 30 in SA and England - which given the state of batting conditions, isn't up to scratch (maybe I am being too harsh here). Starc does have a lovely yorker, though and it does swing in and is great for death bowling in limited overs. Personally - in tests in Australia, I just think of Starc and Johnson as left arm fast bowlers. That is the source of their success in Australia. I don't know what the future will hold for Starc's career. I think his main weapon is his pace, and he is going to need to keep the pace up, or face the fate as Mitch J when he lost his pace. It is interesting to read Starc's figures overseas, Paddles.. He bowls a lot of bad balls too, as well as jaffas. When his pace slows as he ages , he could find he is a lot less effective. Brett Lee was very effective when he bowled over 150kph, but even bowling at 140 plus later in his career, his effectiveness decreased. I've read it was because he bowled flat, without loop. This is far above my understanding of cricket though. I thought trajectory was confined to spinners! Yeah - any bowler who relies on pace primarily is destined for a shorter career than a bowler who gets lateral movement (be it seam, swing or spin). A spinner can keep on going - remember Eddie Hemmings - he was in his 40's bowling in internationals? Warne and Hogg went well into their 40's in t20 leagues. Once the pace starts dropping - there's an effectiveness problem for many express bowlers. McGrath (seam) and Hadlee (swing and seam) went on so long and were so successful after dropping pace because they were so incredibly disciplined into the channel. Same for Ambrose (seam) and Walsh (seam). Anderson (swing) is planning on going onto 2020 (he's already 36). A further problem is that reverse swing needs pace, the quicker someone bowls, the more and later it reverse swings - so even some "swing" bowlers lose their swing (or have it swing from the hand) as the pace drops. Once the pace starts dropping - there's an effectiveness problem for many express bowlers. McGrath (seam) and Hadlee (swing and seam) went on so long and were so successful after dropping pace because they were so incredibly disciplined into the channel. Same for Ambrose (seam) and Walsh (seam). Anderson (swing) is planning on going onto 2020 (he's already 36). Spot on Paddles. I figured Anderson would have called it quits after the Ashes. One final shot at the enemy. From what I have read, he has no plans of retirement at all just yet. Plus, he is bowling better than he ever has before. He is getting better and better. His averages and stats are improving all the time. I read he was given the option of missing the Sri Lanka tour, and he said "no way" even though he knows he will likely be rotated with Broad, as they up the spinners and keep the all-rounders. He reckons he has it pretty sweet being a test specialist - so he gets a lot of off time. Iirc - that was imposed on him and Broad against their will - but maybe he has grown to enjoy and appreciate it. Are Jimmy's away performances improving as he has a fairly moderate record...compared to playing at home. He has a particularly poor record in Oz. Can not find the stats. | Venue | O | M | R | W | 5w | 10w | Best | Avg | S/R | E/R | | Home | 2958.4 | 774 | 8493 | 360 | 21 | 3 | 7/42 | 23.59 | 49.31 | 2.87 | | Away | 2291.2 | 549 | 6647 | 204 | 5 | 0 | 6/42 | 32.58 | 67.39 | 2.90 | | Overall | 5250 | 1323 | 15140 | 564 | 26 | 3 | 7/42 | 26.84 | 55.85 | 2.88 |
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All of what you say is true. He has had 4 tours of Australia where two were total failures. But even in Aus in the last Ashes (28), it was his 2nd best statistical performance in Australia (his best being the time England won 2010/11 - where Tremlett bowled beautifully Anderson went at 26). So this was a clear improvement. Jimmy Anderson is definitely a Dukes bully. But he helps to secure England so very many of those precious home wins. But his numbers are improving all the time. I personally don't think he is anymore special or talented than Boult, and Boult has outbowled Anderson series after series now. But clouds and Duke balls give Anderson the much prettier stats. I'm surprised to read this. I've watched him bowl well in the UAE, and have always thought he looks threatening in Australia with the Kookaburra. Stats with bowlers over a plethora of Tests don't lie though.
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+x+x+x+x+x+x+xPattinson is fit? Excellent news. One of my favourite bowlers in the world and ever. His SR in tests of a wicket every 47 balls is no fluke. Helluva bowler. Great talent. The poor bloke is injury prone though and has a metal plate in his back. Yeah - but I love any swing bowler who bowls at 145+ like Pattinson. I pity the batsman like Mr T pities the fool ;-) Most cricket fans follow their team's batsmen. I could watch Pattinson bowl all day and be very satisfied. Pattinson may be able to bowl swing but I d not term him a swing bowler. He is a Cummins like bowler..fast, intimidating.. an enforcer. Had Patto not had this dreadful run of injuries I dare say we would not have seen Cummins in our Test attack. Imran, Waqar, Wasim, Bond, Patto - they're all fast - and they all swing or swung it. They may not bowl at 120km/h like so many of the swingers - they may even all be express (at their best) but they are and were all swingers of the ball. So many fast bowlers are simply express - Patto swings it at express 145km/h pace. I acknowledge this fact and give him props for it. Just as I do for Imran, Waqar, Was, Steyn and Bond. Just because they swung it at 140+ does not mean that they were any less swing bowlers compared Anderson, Boult, Agarkar, Khan, Doull, Flemming etc. Personally - 145+ and swinging it - makes someone a bowler that I really want to watch. :-) Patto is an express swinger - like Imran, Waqar, Was, and Bond all were. It is a smaller club - but he is in it for mine. If someone swings it regularly - they're a swing bowler for mine. All the better for it - the faster that they bowl. A swing bowler for mine is simply swinging it - and says nothing about gentle pace. Because Imran, Wasim, Waqar, Steyn and Bond were far from gentle. And so is Pattinson. For mine Nick Winter is Australia's most promising swing bowler.The Canberra-born leftie had the English Duke talking last Shield season. Took 25 (or was it more) poles in his first three games with the Duke. If CA has half a brain he should be the first quick picked for England. He could be another Terry Alderman. Any idea how fast he bowls, Baggers? I hope he isn't another 120 kph bowler like Chadd Sayers. If Winter bowls about 130kph, has an action that doesn't take much out of him and can bowl long spells, he sounds good to me. Reckon 135-138kph. Pace should not determine a Baggy Green .. what you do with the ball should. Sayers was on the short list for an Ashes berth in 2013 if memory serves. Cruelly he was injured and missed the boat. So CA saw him as international standard then. It is only over recent times that if you wanted to make our Test attack you were expected to bowl around 140kph. This is a nonsence obsessively pushed by that nong Hi Performance guru Pat Howard and Boof Lehmann..
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+xRenshaw scored 89, and Peter Handscomb has scored a very timely century for Victoria. They's both pushing hard for a recall. I notice that Handscomb is still batting way back in the crease, however. I'm just not sure that technique will stand up to scrutiny in international cricket. Good bowlers have already worked out this technical flaw in Handscomb's makeup. India will continue to do so.
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+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+xPattinson is fit? Excellent news. One of my favourite bowlers in the world and ever. His SR in tests of a wicket every 47 balls is no fluke. Helluva bowler. Great talent. The poor bloke is injury prone though and has a metal plate in his back. Yeah - but I love any swing bowler who bowls at 145+ like Pattinson. I pity the batsman like Mr T pities the fool ;-) Most cricket fans follow their team's batsmen. I could watch Pattinson bowl all day and be very satisfied. Pattinson may be able to bowl swing but I d not term him a swing bowler. He is a Cummins like bowler..fast, intimidating.. an enforcer. Had Patto not had this dreadful run of injuries I dare say we would not have seen Cummins in our Test attack. Imran, Waqar, Wasim, Bond, Patto - they're all fast - and they all swing or swung it. They may not bowl at 120km/h like so many of the swingers - they may even all be express (at their best) but they are and were all swingers of the ball. So many fast bowlers are simply express - Patto swings it at express 145km/h pace. I acknowledge this fact and give him props for it. Just as I do for Imran, Waqar, Was, Steyn and Bond. Just because they swung it at 140+ does not mean that they were any less swing bowlers compared Anderson, Boult, Agarkar, Khan, Doull, Flemming etc. Personally - 145+ and swinging it - makes someone a bowler that I really want to watch. :-) Patto is an express swinger - like Imran, Waqar, Was, and Bond all were. It is a smaller club - but he is in it for mine. If someone swings it regularly - they're a swing bowler for mine. All the better for it - the faster that they bowl. A swing bowler for mine is simply swinging it - and says nothing about gentle pace. Because Imran, Wasim, Waqar, Steyn and Bond were far from gentle. And so is Pattinson. For mine Nick Winter is Australia's most promising swing bowler.The Canberra-born leftie had the English Duke talking last Shield season. Took 25 (or was it more) poles in his first three games with the Duke. If CA has half a brain he should be the first quick picked for England. He could be another Terry Alderman. Any idea how fast he bowls, Baggers? I hope he isn't another 120 kph bowler like Chadd Sayers. If Winter bowls about 130kph, has an action that doesn't take much out of him and can bowl long spells, he sounds good to me. Reckon 135-138kph. Pace should not determine a Baggy Green .. what you do with the ball should. Sayers was on the short list for an Ashes berth in 2013 if memory serves. Cruelly he was injured and missed the boat. So CA saw him as international standard then. It is only over recent times that if you wanted to make our Test attack you were expected to bowl around 140kph. This is a nonsence obsessively pushed by that nong Hi Performance guru Pat Howard and Boof Lehmann.. Heya Baggers, depends a bit on the pitches. If given a flat bare bouncy road to bowl on - the only weapon a seam bowler has is pace. While being express is great for bowling on those pitches, it is different story altogether in England. England bowlers are deadly in England and far more limp in Australia. And the reverse is true for the Aussie boys on a comparative basis, too. A bowler averaging around 28-30 in England is typically contributing to a loss these days, not a win.
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NSW: Dan Hughes, Nick Larkin, Kurtis Patterson, Moises Henriques, Jason Sangha, Peter Nevill (capt), Jack Edwards, Steve O'Keefe, Trent Copeland, Sean Abbott, Nathan Lyon, Harry Conway (12th man). Tasmania: Jordan Silk, Alex Doolan, Beau Webster, Jake Doran, George Bailey (capt), Matthew Wade, Tim Paine, Tom Rogers, Jackson Bird, Gabe Bell, Riley Meredith, Gurinder Sandhu (12th man).
Last chance for Larkin and Henriques. Look at the Blues weak attack.. Lyon does add some quality tho. This SCG deck must have been prepared to turn.. reason for two spinners. I expect Sangha to get plenty of overs.
DC your boys have started the season strongly. Alex Doolan has impressed. Perhaps a touch too late in his career to mature tho. Silk is getting runs after a shocking time with depression. Can you shed any lite on that? Talk of Wade as a batsman in First Test if he continues his strong work with the willow. Jackson Bird is back to his best after constant snubs by the selectors.
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+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+xPattinson is fit? Excellent news. One of my favourite bowlers in the world and ever. His SR in tests of a wicket every 47 balls is no fluke. Helluva bowler. Great talent. The poor bloke is injury prone though and has a metal plate in his back. Yeah - but I love any swing bowler who bowls at 145+ like Pattinson. I pity the batsman like Mr T pities the fool ;-) Most cricket fans follow their team's batsmen. I could watch Pattinson bowl all day and be very satisfied. Pattinson may be able to bowl swing but I d not term him a swing bowler. He is a Cummins like bowler..fast, intimidating.. an enforcer. Had Patto not had this dreadful run of injuries I dare say we would not have seen Cummins in our Test attack. Imran, Waqar, Wasim, Bond, Patto - they're all fast - and they all swing or swung it. They may not bowl at 120km/h like so many of the swingers - they may even all be express (at their best) but they are and were all swingers of the ball. So many fast bowlers are simply express - Patto swings it at express 145km/h pace. I acknowledge this fact and give him props for it. Just as I do for Imran, Waqar, Was, Steyn and Bond. Just because they swung it at 140+ does not mean that they were any less swing bowlers compared Anderson, Boult, Agarkar, Khan, Doull, Flemming etc. Personally - 145+ and swinging it - makes someone a bowler that I really want to watch. :-) Patto is an express swinger - like Imran, Waqar, Was, and Bond all were. It is a smaller club - but he is in it for mine. If someone swings it regularly - they're a swing bowler for mine. All the better for it - the faster that they bowl. A swing bowler for mine is simply swinging it - and says nothing about gentle pace. Because Imran, Wasim, Waqar, Steyn and Bond were far from gentle. And so is Pattinson. For mine Nick Winter is Australia's most promising swing bowler.The Canberra-born leftie had the English Duke talking last Shield season. Took 25 (or was it more) poles in his first three games with the Duke. If CA has half a brain he should be the first quick picked for England. He could be another Terry Alderman. Any idea how fast he bowls, Baggers? I hope he isn't another 120 kph bowler like Chadd Sayers. If Winter bowls about 130kph, has an action that doesn't take much out of him and can bowl long spells, he sounds good to me. Reckon 135-138kph. Pace should not determine a Baggy Green .. what you do with the ball should. Sayers was on the short list for an Ashes berth in 2013 if memory serves. Cruelly he was injured and missed the boat. So CA saw him as international standard then. It is only over recent times that if you wanted to make our Test attack you were expected to bowl around 140kph. This is a nonsence obsessively pushed by that nong Hi Performance guru Pat Howard and Boof Lehmann.. Heya Baggers, depends a bit on the pitches. If given a flat bare bouncy road to bowl on - the only weapon a seam bowler has is pace. While being express is great for bowling on those pitches, it is different story altogether in England. England bowlers are deadly in England and far more limp in Australia. And the reverse is true for the Aussie boys on a comparative basis, too. A bowler averaging around 28-30 in England is typically contributing to a loss these days, not a win. Ok Paddles put on your selectors hat for second. Would you have left McGrath out of an away series because he only bowled 130kph? I am not talking about once he became a legend. Say on the 95 tour of Windies where he established himself. Had these nongs been in charge of bowler management then it could be unlikely the great man would have had that incredible Test series debut.
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+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+xPattinson is fit? Excellent news. One of my favourite bowlers in the world and ever. His SR in tests of a wicket every 47 balls is no fluke. Helluva bowler. Great talent. The poor bloke is injury prone though and has a metal plate in his back. Yeah - but I love any swing bowler who bowls at 145+ like Pattinson. I pity the batsman like Mr T pities the fool ;-) Most cricket fans follow their team's batsmen. I could watch Pattinson bowl all day and be very satisfied. Pattinson may be able to bowl swing but I d not term him a swing bowler. He is a Cummins like bowler..fast, intimidating.. an enforcer. Had Patto not had this dreadful run of injuries I dare say we would not have seen Cummins in our Test attack. Imran, Waqar, Wasim, Bond, Patto - they're all fast - and they all swing or swung it. They may not bowl at 120km/h like so many of the swingers - they may even all be express (at their best) but they are and were all swingers of the ball. So many fast bowlers are simply express - Patto swings it at express 145km/h pace. I acknowledge this fact and give him props for it. Just as I do for Imran, Waqar, Was, Steyn and Bond. Just because they swung it at 140+ does not mean that they were any less swing bowlers compared Anderson, Boult, Agarkar, Khan, Doull, Flemming etc. Personally - 145+ and swinging it - makes someone a bowler that I really want to watch. :-) Patto is an express swinger - like Imran, Waqar, Was, and Bond all were. It is a smaller club - but he is in it for mine. If someone swings it regularly - they're a swing bowler for mine. All the better for it - the faster that they bowl. A swing bowler for mine is simply swinging it - and says nothing about gentle pace. Because Imran, Wasim, Waqar, Steyn and Bond were far from gentle. And so is Pattinson. For mine Nick Winter is Australia's most promising swing bowler.The Canberra-born leftie had the English Duke talking last Shield season. Took 25 (or was it more) poles in his first three games with the Duke. If CA has half a brain he should be the first quick picked for England. He could be another Terry Alderman. Any idea how fast he bowls, Baggers? I hope he isn't another 120 kph bowler like Chadd Sayers. If Winter bowls about 130kph, has an action that doesn't take much out of him and can bowl long spells, he sounds good to me. Reckon 135-138kph. Pace should not determine a Baggy Green .. what you do with the ball should. Sayers was on the short list for an Ashes berth in 2013 if memory serves. Cruelly he was injured and missed the boat. So CA saw him as international standard then. It is only over recent times that if you wanted to make our Test attack you were expected to bowl around 140kph. This is a nonsence obsessively pushed by that nong Hi Performance guru Pat Howard and Boof Lehmann.. Heya Baggers, depends a bit on the pitches. If given a flat bare bouncy road to bowl on - the only weapon a seam bowler has is pace. While being express is great for bowling on those pitches, it is different story altogether in England. England bowlers are deadly in England and far more limp in Australia. And the reverse is true for the Aussie boys on a comparative basis, too. A bowler averaging around 28-30 in England is typically contributing to a loss these days, not a win. Ok Paddles put your selectors hat on for second. Would you have left McGrath out of an away series because he only bowled 130kph? I am not talking about once he became a legend. Say on the 95 tour of Windies where he established himself. Had these nongs been in charge of bowler management then it could be unlikely the great man would have had that incredible Test series debut. Ok Paddles put your selectors hat on for second. Would you have left McGrath out of an away series because he only bowled 130kph? I am not talking about once he became a legend. Say on the 95 tour of Windies where he established himself. Had these nongs been in charge of bowler management then it could be unlikely the great man would have had that incredible Test series debut. McGrath debut's in 1993/94 - he was already the AIS ACA graduate in the system's pipeline. He was behind McDermott, Reiffel and Hughes. Julian was sort of lingering around having played a couple of games in the 1993 Ashes tour (but Aus oft doubled May and Warne in England and the next summer). Hughes was 'banned' effectively at the end of that season for unsavoury conduct in South Africa. That put McGrath up a notch. Once McDermott got injured in the ODI games in the WI before the tests, there was no way McGrath was not playing those tests. During the interim - Australia were searching for pace - but Jo Angel just kept sucking at intl.
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+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+xPattinson is fit? Excellent news. One of my favourite bowlers in the world and ever. His SR in tests of a wicket every 47 balls is no fluke. Helluva bowler. Great talent. The poor bloke is injury prone though and has a metal plate in his back. Yeah - but I love any swing bowler who bowls at 145+ like Pattinson. I pity the batsman like Mr T pities the fool ;-) Most cricket fans follow their team's batsmen. I could watch Pattinson bowl all day and be very satisfied. Pattinson may be able to bowl swing but I d not term him a swing bowler. He is a Cummins like bowler..fast, intimidating.. an enforcer. Had Patto not had this dreadful run of injuries I dare say we would not have seen Cummins in our Test attack. Imran, Waqar, Wasim, Bond, Patto - they're all fast - and they all swing or swung it. They may not bowl at 120km/h like so many of the swingers - they may even all be express (at their best) but they are and were all swingers of the ball. So many fast bowlers are simply express - Patto swings it at express 145km/h pace. I acknowledge this fact and give him props for it. Just as I do for Imran, Waqar, Was, Steyn and Bond. Just because they swung it at 140+ does not mean that they were any less swing bowlers compared Anderson, Boult, Agarkar, Khan, Doull, Flemming etc. Personally - 145+ and swinging it - makes someone a bowler that I really want to watch. :-) Patto is an express swinger - like Imran, Waqar, Was, and Bond all were. It is a smaller club - but he is in it for mine. If someone swings it regularly - they're a swing bowler for mine. All the better for it - the faster that they bowl. A swing bowler for mine is simply swinging it - and says nothing about gentle pace. Because Imran, Wasim, Waqar, Steyn and Bond were far from gentle. And so is Pattinson. For mine Nick Winter is Australia's most promising swing bowler.The Canberra-born leftie had the English Duke talking last Shield season. Took 25 (or was it more) poles in his first three games with the Duke. If CA has half a brain he should be the first quick picked for England. He could be another Terry Alderman. Any idea how fast he bowls, Baggers? I hope he isn't another 120 kph bowler like Chadd Sayers. If Winter bowls about 130kph, has an action that doesn't take much out of him and can bowl long spells, he sounds good to me. Reckon 135-138kph. Pace should not determine a Baggy Green .. what you do with the ball should. Sayers was on the short list for an Ashes berth in 2013 if memory serves. Cruelly he was injured and missed the boat. So CA saw him as international standard then. It is only over recent times that if you wanted to make our Test attack you were expected to bowl around 140kph. This is a nonsence obsessively pushed by that nong Hi Performance guru Pat Howard and Boof Lehmann.. Heya Baggers, depends a bit on the pitches. If given a flat bare bouncy road to bowl on - the only weapon a seam bowler has is pace. While being express is great for bowling on those pitches, it is different story altogether in England. England bowlers are deadly in England and far more limp in Australia. And the reverse is true for the Aussie boys on a comparative basis, too. A bowler averaging around 28-30 in England is typically contributing to a loss these days, not a win. Ok Paddles put your selectors hat on for second. Would you have left McGrath out of an away series because he only bowled 130kph? I am not talking about once he became a legend. Say on the 95 tour of Windies where he established himself. Had these nongs been in charge of bowler management then it could be unlikely the great man would have had that incredible Test series debut. Ok Paddles put your selectors hat on for second. Would you have left McGrath out of an away series because he only bowled 130kph? I am not talking about once he became a legend. Say on the 95 tour of Windies where he established himself. Had these nongs been in charge of bowler management then it could be unlikely the great man would have had that incredible Test series debut. McGrath debut's in 1993/94 - he was already the AIS ACA graduate in the system's pipeline. He was behind McDermott, Reiffel and Hughes. Julian was sort of lingering around having played a couple of games in the 1993 Ashes tour (but Aus oft doubled May and Warne in England and the next summer). Hughes was 'banned' effectively at the end of that season for unsavoury conduct in South Africa. That put McGrath up a notch. Once McDermott got injured in the ODI games in the WI before the tests, there was no way McGrath was not playing those tests. During the interim - Australia were searching for pace - but Jo Angel just kept sucking at intl. Yes a Academy scholar .. the usual trophies but he had not yet established himself in our best attack by 95. He came of age on that Windies tour. From memory he was not in the first choice attack.. Wasnt it an injury to Fleming or McDermott that got him his start.. Took his chance with a fivefor (stand corrected) 5 second innings. 8 for the match. This was the game. West Indies 195 and 189; Australia 346 and 39/0 Australia won by 10
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Mitch Marsh has started his season in the best possible way.. with a ton. By all accounts it was an unblemished, hi concentration knock punctuated by some punishing drives and pulls. I am dog sitting my puppy so missing much of the live stream action.
I am trying to locate Mitch Marshs First Class record since he took over the captaincy of WA. Anyone help? I have a sense it is impressive.
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+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+xPattinson is fit? Excellent news. One of my favourite bowlers in the world and ever. His SR in tests of a wicket every 47 balls is no fluke. Helluva bowler. Great talent. The poor bloke is injury prone though and has a metal plate in his back. Yeah - but I love any swing bowler who bowls at 145+ like Pattinson. I pity the batsman like Mr T pities the fool ;-) Most cricket fans follow their team's batsmen. I could watch Pattinson bowl all day and be very satisfied. Pattinson may be able to bowl swing but I d not term him a swing bowler. He is a Cummins like bowler..fast, intimidating.. an enforcer. Had Patto not had this dreadful run of injuries I dare say we would not have seen Cummins in our Test attack. Imran, Waqar, Wasim, Bond, Patto - they're all fast - and they all swing or swung it. They may not bowl at 120km/h like so many of the swingers - they may even all be express (at their best) but they are and were all swingers of the ball. So many fast bowlers are simply express - Patto swings it at express 145km/h pace. I acknowledge this fact and give him props for it. Just as I do for Imran, Waqar, Was, Steyn and Bond. Just because they swung it at 140+ does not mean that they were any less swing bowlers compared Anderson, Boult, Agarkar, Khan, Doull, Flemming etc. Personally - 145+ and swinging it - makes someone a bowler that I really want to watch. :-) Patto is an express swinger - like Imran, Waqar, Was, and Bond all were. It is a smaller club - but he is in it for mine. If someone swings it regularly - they're a swing bowler for mine. All the better for it - the faster that they bowl. A swing bowler for mine is simply swinging it - and says nothing about gentle pace. Because Imran, Wasim, Waqar, Steyn and Bond were far from gentle. And so is Pattinson. For mine Nick Winter is Australia's most promising swing bowler.The Canberra-born leftie had the English Duke talking last Shield season. Took 25 (or was it more) poles in his first three games with the Duke. If CA has half a brain he should be the first quick picked for England. He could be another Terry Alderman. Any idea how fast he bowls, Baggers? I hope he isn't another 120 kph bowler like Chadd Sayers. If Winter bowls about 130kph, has an action that doesn't take much out of him and can bowl long spells, he sounds good to me. Reckon 135-138kph. Pace should not determine a Baggy Green .. what you do with the ball should. Sayers was on the short list for an Ashes berth in 2013 if memory serves. Cruelly he was injured and missed the boat. So CA saw him as international standard then. It is only over recent times that if you wanted to make our Test attack you were expected to bowl around 140kph. This is a nonsence obsessively pushed by that nong Hi Performance guru Pat Howard and Boof Lehmann.. Heya Baggers, depends a bit on the pitches. If given a flat bare bouncy road to bowl on - the only weapon a seam bowler has is pace. While being express is great for bowling on those pitches, it is different story altogether in England. England bowlers are deadly in England and far more limp in Australia. And the reverse is true for the Aussie boys on a comparative basis, too. A bowler averaging around 28-30 in England is typically contributing to a loss these days, not a win. Ok Paddles put your selectors hat on for second. Would you have left McGrath out of an away series because he only bowled 130kph? I am not talking about once he became a legend. Say on the 95 tour of Windies where he established himself. Had these nongs been in charge of bowler management then it could be unlikely the great man would have had that incredible Test series debut. Ok Paddles put your selectors hat on for second. Would you have left McGrath out of an away series because he only bowled 130kph? I am not talking about once he became a legend. Say on the 95 tour of Windies where he established himself. Had these nongs been in charge of bowler management then it could be unlikely the great man would have had that incredible Test series debut. McGrath debut's in 1993/94 - he was already the AIS ACA graduate in the system's pipeline. He was behind McDermott, Reiffel and Hughes. Julian was sort of lingering around having played a couple of games in the 1993 Ashes tour (but Aus oft doubled May and Warne in England and the next summer). Hughes was 'banned' effectively at the end of that season for unsavoury conduct in South Africa. That put McGrath up a notch. Once McDermott got injured in the ODI games in the WI before the tests, there was no way McGrath was not playing those tests. During the interim - Australia were searching for pace - but Jo Angel just kept sucking at intl. effectively Yes a Academy scholar .. the usual trophies but he had not yet established himself in our best attack by 95. He came of age on that Windies tour. From memory he was not in the first choice attack.. Wasnt it an injury to Fleming or McDermott that got him his start.. Took his chance with a fivefor (stand corrected) Agreed McGrath performed well on that tour. Although Glen had some good performances before that tour too. It was his 'coming of age' tour. My point was that after Hughes was effectively banned, McDermott injured, and Angel had failed, that there was no way the selectors were not going to pick McGrath. And yeah, Flem got injured in the ODI as as well as McDermott. There was nobody else to pick essentially. The Australian fast bowling options were running on fumes. They may have had Tony Dodemaide on stand-by ;-)
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Mitchell Marsh has secured his spot with that century.
Callum Ferguson has almost certainly ruled himself out of contention after he got bowled through the gate by James Pattinson.
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+xMitchell Marsh has secured his spot with that century. Callum Ferguson has almost certainly ruled himself out of contention after he got bowled through the gate by James Pattinson. Damn fine ball by Patto, loved listening to the commentators say he had been swinging them away and then nipped that one in off the seam from the channel to Ferg. Such a great game plan by Patto. That will eventually undo any batsman.
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+x+xMitchell Marsh has secured his spot with that century. Callum Ferguson has almost certainly ruled himself out of contention after he got bowled through the gate by James Pattinson. Damn fine ball by Patto, loved listening to the commentators say he had been swinging them away and then nipped that one in off the seam from the channel to Ferg. Such a great game plan by Patto. That will eventually undo any batsman. Have always rated Patto. If only he can stay out of the hospital ward.
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It is time to bring down the curtin on the Shield career of Moises Henriques. The Blues need to weed out those players with a soft underbelly.
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NSW is 5-285 against Tasmania at stumps.
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+xNSW is 5-285 against Tasmania at stumps. Yes with a couple of kids, Sangha and Edwards, taking the battle to the Tigers attack.
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Where can I locate Mitch Marshs First Class record since he took over the captaincy of WA. Anyone help? I have a sense it is impressive.
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+xWhere can I locate Mitch Marshs First Class record since he took over the captaincy of WA. Anyone help? I have a sense it is impressive. Just watched footage of Marsh's 150. In a word "powerful". Langer will be also be pleased with his defence and concentration. He was there for 300 balls.
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+x+xWhere can I locate Mitch Marshs First Class record since he took over the captaincy of WA. Anyone help? I have a sense it is impressive. Just watched footage of Marsh's 150. In a word "powerful". Langer will be also be pleased with his defence and concentration. He was there for 300 balls. Also a mention to his partner Will Bisisto for his more composed ton. Hope this is the beginning of big things for this former Oz U19 skipper.
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Good to see Tim Paine back behind the Tassie stumps.. with Wade chosen as a batsman only . Wadey even bowled three overs.
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Couple of Blues young guns in a enthralling battle to see who brings up his first Shield century.
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+xCouple of Blues young guns in a enthralling battle to see who brings up his first Shield century. Jack Edwards won the race over Jason Sangha. ..and yes Mike I still say he has a suss stance.
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+x+xCouple of Blues young guns in a enthralling battle to see who brings up his first Shield century. Jack Edwards won the race over Jason Sangha. ..and yes Mike I still say he has a suss stance. I have to question why Shield games are played at almost empty major venues. and not at smaller, more intimate suburban grounds? This is good on the one hand that you get your first FC ton at the famous SCG, AO or MCG.. but at the expense of no great fanfare for the deed. There would be no more than 100 in the crowd.
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Way to go Sangha. The first of many I presume.
How is his "part-time" leg break developing?
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Will Bosisto unconquered on 167.. Warriors with a 96 run lead. Has time beaten them?
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