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some of his best innings have been against decent sides

http://www.howstat.com/cricket/Statistics/Players/PlayerOpponents_ODI.asp?PlayerID=3969

I think Australia's conservatism has them really behind the best teams. Hopefully their bowling can pull off a miracle in the knockouts though
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grazorblade - 13 Jun 2019 1:06 PM
its pretty odd to me to advocate dropping maxwell when we have a weakness when it comes to accelerating and chasing those big 350+ scores. We are already majorly unbalanced toward the accumulators as it is.

If it was the 1999 world cup fair enough but maxwell keeps us in the game when our bowlers have an off day

Gday gb,
jaszyjim - I keep hearing that but what has he done - starts but that's it.
He may hit big scores against so, so sides but he definitely isn't doing it here.
He has no footwork & the better bowlers know that, bowl so he has to move his feet,
his positioning becomes wrong & he holes out.
Bowling wise he isn't good enough. Classed as a batting allrounder, too inconsistent, time to go.
The one thing I do agree with, is the the selectors got the squad wrong - nothing to choose from
for batters.
With Stoinis out, a choice between Marsh or Khawaja, Maxwell & Coulter Nile not performing, the tail turning to jelly,
it's not a good sight.
To be brutally honest, Marsh, Khawaja, Maxwell, Coulter Nile, Patterson & Zampa should all be sent home & replaced
with players who can do the job. As I haven't been able to follow who is performing I will leave the choice to others.
I always suggest Agar as spin allrounder, usually to much controversy.


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its pretty odd to me to advocate dropping maxwell when we have a weakness when it comes to accelerating and chasing those big 350+ scores. We are already majorly unbalanced toward the accumulators as it is.

If it was the 1999 world cup fair enough but maxwell keeps us in the game when our bowlers have an off day
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Decentric - 13 Jun 2019 12:14 PM
jaszyjim - 13 Jun 2019 11:53 AM

Good round  up, JJ.

Ae you still in a remote location?

No unfortunately,
Stubbed my big toe the day before we left - went bad & had to come
back to get treated. Such is life.
Camped on the beach, we had satellite TV connected to Vast & a 5m Telstra aerial up,
so had both free to air TV, internet & mobile phone. Not a bad life & hard to leave.
Regards jj


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jaszyjim - 13 Jun 2019 11:53 AM
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Gday Dc,
jaszyjim - Well an interesting match, at least we tried something different.
The match showed up our fragility against good bowlers. From the top;
Finch - a good score but very lucky. Never looked settled, no foot movement,
a day when luck went his way.
Warner -  Finally showing his class & why he is so important to this side.
Smith - uncharacteristic shot, his head & body not to the ball, hence weight on back foot
resulting in a lolly pop.
Maxwell - given his chance early, no real pressure, no foot movement = out.
Marsh - never looked settled, slow to get to the ball = out
Khawaja - same as Marsh.
Carey - Not a big score but in the middle order only Marsh @ 23 was higher.
Coulter Nile - Disappointing & the rest the same.



Good insights into technique, JJ.
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jaszyjim - 13 Jun 2019 11:53 AM
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Gday Dc,
jaszyjim - Well an interesting match, at least we tried something different.
The match showed up our fragility against good bowlers. From the top;
Finch - a good score but very lucky. Never looked settled, no foot movement,
a day when luck went his way.
Warner -  Finally showing his class & why he is so important to this side.
Smith - uncharacteristic shot, his head & body not to the ball, hence weight on back foot
resulting in a lolly pop.
Maxwell - given his chance early, no real pressure, no foot movement = out.
Marsh - never looked settled, slow to get to the ball = out
Khawaja - same as Marsh.
Carey - Not a big score but in the middle order only Marsh @ 23 was higher.
Coulter Nile - Disappointing & the rest the same.

Conclusions:-
The main point in this world cup is consistency. Too often we hear the excuse that so & so is having
an off day. It's the world cup & an off day can cost you a match. These guys are paid
extremely well not to have an off day = not an excuse. If you want an off day, then go home. 

Finch & Warner stay as 1 & 2, given the understanding that Finch will be suspect with top bowlers.
Smith stays at 3.
Now we get interesting - Marsh & Khawaja playing together, what a chance to compare.
Both got a start & both failed = 4th spot a ? - due to lack of batsmen to select from
in the squad, probably Marsh
5th spot - Maxwell to me, as I said from the start should be dropped.
Batting = no foot movement, bowling not good enough and will be picked off in both by good teams.
If we use him as our yard stick as to who is included = no one better & he is included,
we loose against good teams.
If dropped will probable be replaced by Khawaja - no one else over there.
6th should be a good an allrounder, Stoinis being injured was our best, but we don't have one.
Carey should bat 6.
7 - Coulter Nile, unimpressive with both ball & bat = drop him & replace with M. Marsh.
At least he can't do any worse & may provide a spark.
8 to 11 = bowlers;
Cummins & Starc the only ones performing, although if Starc has an off day like he did against India,
then he is a liability. Inaccurate at his pace = lots of runs.
Richardson got wickets but not impressive.
Why Finch bowled himself, despite getting a wicket, in lieu of Smith I will never know.
Was not impressed with Finch's captaincy at all in this match. Is he feeling the pressure from
Smith looming over his shoulder?
Lyon should be included at 11.
Should Behrendorff replace Richardson? 
That's my lot
 

Good round  up, JJ.

Ae you still in a remote location?
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Decentric - 13 Jun 2019 7:51 AM
grazorblade - 13 Jun 2019 3:02 AM

We also dropped Zampa and did not select Lyon. 

Just before I went to bed Richardson got movement from the pitch and was unlucky not to take wickets. 

Gday Dc,
jaszyjim - Well an interesting match, at least we tried something different.
The match showed up our fragility against good bowlers. From the top;
Finch - a good score but very lucky. Never looked settled, no foot movement,
a day when luck went his way.
Warner -  Finally showing his class & why he is so important to this side.
Smith - uncharacteristic shot, his head & body not to the ball, hence weight on back foot
resulting in a lolly pop.
Maxwell - given his chance early, no real pressure, no foot movement = out.
Marsh - never looked settled, slow to get to the ball = out
Khawaja - same as Marsh.
Carey - Not a big score but in the middle order only Marsh @ 23 was higher.
Coulter Nile - Disappointing & the rest the same.

Conclusions:-
The main point in this world cup is consistency. Too often we hear the excuse that so & so is having
an off day. It's the world cup & an off day can cost you a match. These guys are paid
extremely well not to have an off day = not an excuse. If you want an off day, then go home. 

Finch & Warner stay as 1 & 2, given the understanding that Finch will be suspect with top bowlers.
Smith stays at 3.
Now we get interesting - Marsh & Khawaja playing together, what a chance to compare.
Both got a start & both failed = 4th spot a ? - due to lack of batsmen to select from
in the squad, probably Marsh
5th spot - Maxwell to me, as I said from the start should be dropped.
Batting = no foot movement, bowling not good enough and will be picked off in both by good teams.
If we use him as our yard stick as to who is included = no one better & he is included,
we loose against good teams.
If dropped will probable be replaced by Khawaja - no one else over there.
6th should be a good an allrounder, Stoinis being injured was our best, but we don't have one.
Carey should bat 6.
7 - Coulter Nile, unimpressive with both ball & bat = drop him & replace with M. Marsh.
At least he can't do any worse & may provide a spark.
8 to 11 = bowlers;
Cummins & Starc the only ones performing, although if Starc has an off day like he did against India,
then he is a liability. Inaccurate at his pace = lots of runs.
Richardson got wickets but not impressive.
Why Finch bowled himself, despite getting a wicket, in lieu of Smith I will never know.
Was not impressed with Finch's captaincy at all in this match. Is he feeling the pressure from
Smith looming over his shoulder?
Lyon should be included at 11.
Should Behrendorff replace Richardson? 
That's my lot
 
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Decentric - 13 Jun 2019 7:47 AM
grazorblade - 13 Jun 2019 6:05 AM

I’m assuming we lost? 

I’ve just got up. 

I think you are right about back up bowlers and Cummins is effective with the old ball anyway. 


no we won haha I meant the india game was when starc and cummins didn't fire
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grazorblade - 13 Jun 2019 3:02 AM
closer than it should have been when paki was six down

Australia's 3rd and 4rd bowlers need so much work

surprised the dorf hasnt had a chance

We also dropped Zampa and did not select Lyon. 

Just before I went to bed Richardson got movement from the pitch and was unlucky not to take wickets. 
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grazorblade - 13 Jun 2019 6:05 AM
all of oz's wins have been performances with the ball more than the bat and our 3rd and 4th bowlers look vulnerable. So really its been Starc and Cummins show. The one game they didn't fire we lost. If we could find just one more bowler to fire we look a lot better. Here's hoping the Dorf gets a shot

I’m assuming we lost? 

I’ve just got up. 

I think you are right about back up bowlers and Cummins is effective with the old ball anyway. 


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all of oz's wins have been performances with the ball more than the bat and our 3rd and 4th bowlers look vulnerable. So really its been Starc and Cummins show. The one game they didn't fire we lost. If we could find just one more bowler to fire we look a lot better. Here's hoping the Dorf gets a shot
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australia just need to win 1 of their hard games against NZ, England and south africa to make the knockouts and not have a slip up against Bangladesh/Sri Lanka
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I think we need a specialist new ball bowler. Cummins is just as effective with the old ball and we have good new ball bowlers. Also I thought cummins and zampa had a good partnership going


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closer than it should have been when paki was six down

Australia's 3rd and 4rd bowlers need so much work

surprised the dorf hasnt had a chance
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huge fightback from pakistan and some awful bowling from a few aussies
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don't know why we are bowling out our 4th and 5th against the tail. Need to think about NRR


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with only 4 wickets to take we may as well bowl out our strike bowlers
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credit to australia for having slips in even when Pakistan were looking comfortable
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Pitch getting harder and pakistan collapsing
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australia were pretty disciplined with their bowling

I'm amazed at how easy pakistan made their bowling look at some stages
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wicket seems harder to play on with the older ball for both teams

Australia almost certain from here
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nearly a runout

all 4 wickets were gifts really

Australia with a lot of luck so far
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finch takes the wicket so we probably win from here

In t20 you almost always win if you take 3 in the first 10

in odi against any half decent total you almost always win if you take 4 in the first 35
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seriously if Carey takes that wicket its probably the matchwinner
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how many wickets has carey missed?
I'd be surprised if he's an improvement over handscomb
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why would you bowl finch ahead of smith
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I'd play 2 overs from smith here


he's a wicket taker and new batsmen might be reluctant to take risks
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weird thing about the phases is if Pakistan get 1-55 off two of them and 2-55 off one of them then they win 2 and draw 1 phase yet are behind in the match at 4-165 after 30
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finally a wicket

its been painful to watch at times how easy it seems for the batters

gee thats a gift

1 more wicket before 35th and we should have this
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Aussie fielding is decidedly superior to Pakistan’s. 
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