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Who will win?
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Looking at the national anthem Australia has 6 bowlers!
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+xLooking at the national anthem Australia has 6 bowlers! Wow!
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+xLooking at the national anthem Australia has 6 bowlers! No. Coulter - Nile and Zampa weren’t selected. I think the four specialist bowlers are Dorf, Starc, Richo and Lyon.
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+x+xLooking at the national anthem Australia has 6 bowlers! No. Coulter - Nile and Zampa weren’t selected. I think the four specialist bowlers are Dorf, Starc, Richo and Lyon. Wrong. Cummins is playing instead of Richardson.
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Didn’t realise Warner was top run scorer in the WC so far?
His strike rate is up to 83 too.
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Finch out LBW Boult, with a ball that nipped back.
Australia 1-15.
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Usman dropped in slips at only 1 run.
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Boult bowling in the 140s!
His rhythm looks good.
In comparison Du Grandhomme looks slow in the low 120s - slower than one Kiwi female bowler.
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That was brute of a ball from Ferguson, rearing off the pitch off a length to get Warner out.
Australia is 2-38.
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Neesham has Stoinis caught by keeper, Latham, for 21.
Australia 4-81 at the 20 over mark.
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+xNeesham has Stoinis caught by keeper, Latham, for 21. Australia 4-81 at the 20 over mark. stoinis looked ok for once
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Brilliant catch from Neesham!
Maxwell out for 1.
Australia struggling at 5-92 after 22 overs.
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some brilliance in the field to dismiss smith and maxwell
NZs bowling is incredible, best in the tournament
their batting is weaker. Any score will give us a slight chance
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khawaja the only batter with luck so far
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genuine turn with both spinners. Both old ball pacemen look lethal
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I doubt we will get there but 250 looks very defendable on this pitch
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the good news for oz is no one is out playing silly shots
we've probably done as well as we possibly can off this quality of bowling on this pitch. So if we bowl well we have a chance
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how many balls has khawaja looked like getting out
he's still there though
needs to go big
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bolt and ferguson almost match starc and cummins
but then neesham, granhome are great old ball bowlers. No easy runs
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+xbolt and ferguson almost match starc and cummins but then neesham, granhome are great old ball bowlers. No easy runs I don't think Ferguson's action would enable him to play FC cricket. He has been very impressive in the WC though - and this game in particular.
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somehow our run rate is pretty good given the pitch and the wickets that have fallen
don't ask me how!
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+xsomehow our run rate is pretty good given the pitch and the wickets that have fallen don't ask me how! The runs have been slow.
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new ball pair back on. Tricky period here
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thus far its been a brilliant knock from carey
barely a risk
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+xthus far its been a brilliant knock from carey barely a risk It has been - 30 from 32 balls with low risk.
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afghan v pakistan could be a nail biter
go pakistan!
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bizarre shot from khawaja but he gets away with it
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gee even kane williamson bowling hand granades
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The weather looks surprisingly hot too.
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+xThe weather looks surprisingly hot too. 35 in france the other day apparently a record heat wave
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+x+xThe weather looks surprisingly hot too. 35 in france the other day apparently a record heat wave London forecast is for 33.
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+xThe weather looks surprisingly hot too. Apart from 1 over from finch Australia bowled with near perfect control brilliant discipline
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great 50 from khawaja
out all rounders have done their job this world cup but gee I wish we had an andrew synmonds or a shane watson class player
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Australia are 5 down on a tough pitch against world class bowling and somehow our run rate is still nearly 5 per over. I wouldn't judge this game until both teams have batted
I have a sneaking suspicion that Australia has played well
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+xAustralia are 5 down on a tough pitch against world class bowling and somehow our run rate is still nearly 5 per over. I wouldn't judge this game until both teams have batted I have a sneaking suspicion that Australia has played well Put like that, I am surprised we’ve scored at 5 an over.
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Carey cuts well.
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Surprised Williamson is bowling his finger spin?
Kiwis need wickets.
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+xSurprised Williamson is bowling his finger spin? Kiwis need wickets. he's bowled surprisingly well
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carey's batting has been the surprise of the world cup
I have a feeling that bruisers like stoinis and maxwell are going to be crucial in the knockouts where the pitches are likely to be easier
For that reason England are a huge chance if they make the knockouts (as they are a team full of maxwells!)
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how good has carey been?
every other player has struggled
Khawaja has looked like getting out about 6 times this innings and he's been australia's 2nd best!
I wish Maxwell came in at 7 here. Sure you'd like one of those 1 in a generation players like dhoni that can score 15 an over when you need it and dig in for 20 overs when you need it. But today you have specialists like maxwell, Butler and russel and these players should be reserved to the death
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average score from here is 273 if we keep wickets in hand
doubt we'll make that many though!
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khawaja has just struggled rotating strike a fraction. Still a wonderful half century so far
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2 off the 41st. Hope we find another gear in the last 9!
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wickets in both games
what an innings from carey
maybe a match winning one
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commentators blaming khawaja's lack of strike rotation for carey's dismissal
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if we saved maxwell 270 is on the cards
Khawaja struggling to accelerate 6 overs left. Still it might be enough
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6 down with 4 overs left I'd go on the attack go for 40
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cummins with bradman like placement :D
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tough pitch
who do people think are ahead?
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scoop shots needed...
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loving modern odis
it has all the skills of the game from t20 skills to test
its gone from the most boring of the 3 formats to the best
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+xloving modern odis it has all the skills of the game from t20 skills to test its gone from the most boring of the 3 formats to the best You’re right - they used to say 50 over games were too formulaic and viewers would fall asleep during the middle overs. Even the round robin format is a no brainer, what they could do in future is have match ups between the top ranked teams scheduled from the get go, then there would be less dead rubbers theoretically later on in the tournament. Anyway apart from England fluffing their lines it’s been a good W Cup from my point of view, the time element is a bitch for me in Japan though
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+x+xloving modern odis it has all the skills of the game from t20 skills to test its gone from the most boring of the 3 formats to the best You’re right - they used to say 50 over games were too formulaic and viewers would fall asleep during the middle overs. Even the round robin format is a no brainer, what they could do in future is have match ups between the top ranked teams scheduled from the get go, then there would be less dead rubbers theoretically later on in the tournament. Anyway apart from England fluffing their lines it’s been a good W Cup from my point of view, the time element is a bitch for me in Japan though yeah its tough in canada too! Lucky this game was late
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nailbiter on the other channel as paki lose a 5th
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can we make 250
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ugh scoop shots please
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khawaja out trying to leg glance a yorker
why wouldn't he pull out a scoop?
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brilliant innings mind you
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again a yorker
why oh why wouldn't you play a scoop
seriously its not rocket science
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what a surprise a 3rd yorker and a 3rd batter doesn't try and scoop
this needs to be practiced before the semis how to take the yorker out of the equation
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what was the non striker doing?
finally lyon scoops
unsuccesfully but still well done
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no slips for the dorf here
surprising!
Wish we got another 20. Hope we have enough!
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not a lot of swing here from the openers
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pitch seems to be flattening out in the heat we may be in trouble here
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we need something from the dorf here
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Pakistan win!
England could end their world cup tomorrow!
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cummins on in the 5th
moral victory
ball doing absolutely nothing in the blistering heat
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australia in real trouble here. Pitch is doing nothing
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I'm guessing Starc and Dorf will bowl the rest of the innings from one end to give lyon a shot at the other
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dorf gets a wicket so we get something out of the new ball
he was super unlucky not to get 2. Umpires call on the lbw
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key partnership here with williamson in
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dorf strikes again
now the engine room is in
ball reversing in the heat so thats good. The grass is gone so a quiet first 10 but maybe, just maybe the ball is talking
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maxwell and stoinis will be key
NZs 5th bowler was ok
Australia's so far has been decent, Maxwell got us back into the match against Sri Lanka and Stoinis has averaged under 30
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we might miss not getting an extra dozen with scoops in our innings. But its suddenly a tight match
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+xwe might miss not getting an extra dozen with scoops in our innings. But its suddenly a tight match it would be a RRR of over six now if we did and scoreboard pressure would matter
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carey responsible for another drop there
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Dorf through his new ball spell with 2-22
Can Starc Cummins and lyon deliver?
How will our fifth bowler do?
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game really in the balance here. A wicket here and all this digging in from NZ is wasted
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another nick!
This time Carey's excused
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an umpires call, two edges go to ground
NZ riding their luck a bit
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smith on
I was gonna say I'd be tempted to try smith and finch but it takes guts to do with few runs on the board
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NZ only lose 2 in the first 20 but only score 60
Super conservative tactics. Might be the right ones. We'll see!
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gotten 2 5th bowling options out of the way in smith and finch. Might go to maxwell/stoinis next
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surprisingly we bring on stoinis
part time at both ends
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maxwell on.
Part timers in 1 over spells
interesting strategy
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run rate just lifting slightly against the part timers
smith, stoinis and maxwell all went for 4 and finch for 7 off their overs
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stoinis get hoiked for 6 by williamson
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8 off that stoinis over
part timers are 0-26 off 5 which isn't going to kill us yet
maxwell to bowl the 6th
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couple of mistakes in the fields gives away a couple of runs
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7 off the maxwell over. Aussie part timers unsurprisingly letting the pressure off. Surprised they have been given 6 overs in a row. I suppose we want NZ to finish against our best
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this is a problem. Starc now on against 2 set batsmen as we tried to bowl out our 5th
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starc with the breakthrough!
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now bowling out the part timers seems a good decision.
Would be tempted to sneak in a couple more part time overs here
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australia's part timers apart from finch bowler pretty well it has to be said. Its just harder with 2 part timers at each end. So many of stoinis' wickets have been earnt through pressure at the other end
this game they have a different roll. Don't lose the game so the main strikers can finish the job. Any wickets or dots are bonus
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lyon back on. Australia still with 4 overs from their 5th but in a decent position
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wonder if its worth sneaking in a 5th bowler here
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good tight over from maxwell nearly got a wicket
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cummins delivers! HUGE wicket! They've taken 4 in the first 33
Australia favourites now you think
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we now have scoreboard pressure too
Just bowl a couple more part time overs and we can finish with our main bowlers
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forgot to add
maxwell nearly with a screamer run out. Direct hit nearly broke the game open but he's home
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Australia to bowl out their fifth bowler with smith on. Good decision
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even better! 1st ball smith gets a wicket!
Australia WAY ahead now
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australia's record when they are 4 for less then 50 is amazing
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new zealand got way better bowling and batting conditions
this will be a huge win if we pull it off
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only 2 off the smith over plus a wicket
I reckon we bowl max/stoinis at the other end. NZ forced to be watchful then we can finish with our strike bowlers
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our control, even from the part timers (apart from finch) has been incredible
barely any wides whatsover, no long hops, beautiful line and lengths
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Can you give the man of the match to a batter who scores under 10 and bowled poorly?
Finch's captaincy spot on
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120 needed off the last 15. With 7 wickets in hand thats a 50-50 prospect. With only 5 on a difficult pitch and the part timers nearly bowled out its near impossible
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tight over from maxwell great control
Thats 8 from the part timers. I'd not bowl any more until the death with stoinis if the game goes that far
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smith with a screamer off starc!!!
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no need for the 5th bowler now unless it goes deep. Try and bowl them out
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smith warner and maxwell in the ring. How many runs do they save and wickets do they force?
With so many tight games for australia this world cup, their fielding has really been crucial
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is that the best infield in world cricket since we had ponting and symmonds?
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Australia's only weakness really are their 3 all rounders
but its not much of a weakness, Stoinis has bowled at under 30 and his 20 today was a crucial twenty, way more than it looked. Maxwell turns the game in the field, turned the game around with the ball against sri lanka and tends to keep things tight. With the bat he hasn't been his best (though not as bad as stoinis) but has turned some ordinary finishes by Australia into decent finishes with some power hitting. Carey has let chances go but boy what a revelation his batting has been this cup!
Its not our best team ever but its a good team with everyone doing their job. If our 3 all rounders can just lift 5-10% we will be very tough to beat
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asking rate nearly 10
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lyon takes one. Gee he's bowled beautifully the last few games
With Stoinis and Maxwell bowling good enough for a 5th I'm excited about our entire attack
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what a difference dorf and lyon make to this squad
India see out Starc and Cummins and there is not much to come
NZ see out our openers and it just gets harder
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warner SO close to another screamer!
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starc as bankable as they come
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commentators blaming NZ captaincy for NZs loss today saying they shouldn't have brought on their part timers when oz were 5-90
Bit harsh I think, Oz bowled out their part timers at the same stage of the match.
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+xcommentators blaming NZ captaincy for NZs loss today saying they shouldn't have brought on their part timers when oz were 5-90 Bit harsh I think, Oz bowled out their part timers at the same stage of the match. Can’t believe we won, Grazor! When I went to bed towards the end of our innings the Kiwis appeared to be on top.
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+x+xcommentators blaming NZ captaincy for NZs loss today saying they shouldn't have brought on their part timers when oz were 5-90 Bit harsh I think, Oz bowled out their part timers at the same stage of the match. Can’t believe we won, Grazor! When I went to bed towards the end of our innings the Kiwis appeared to be on top. Yep a complete team performance everyone contributed on a tricky pitch and a wicket that flattened out slightly. Stoinis stopped the collapse with a huge 21. It doesn't sound much but it meant Carey could start his innings against part timers and get his eye in. Khawaja anchored the innings and Cummins finished well. Only criticism was the lack of scoops at the death. It's too easy to contain if the bowler can stick to plan a Lyon and Cummins strangled the life out of nz getting wickets at the other end. Part timers did enough to keep the pressure on with great control despite batsmen going after them, dorffs opening was sublime, fielding was incredible and starc of course made the winter come
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poor lyon bowled beautifully all day just got hit for 6 by the number 11!
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now carey too busy saying "aww! " to look at the ball gives away 4 byes
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Starc gets a 5-for
first to get 3 in a world cup I believe
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the scoreboard will give the glory to others but I thought Stoinis preventing the collapse gave us a chance even though it was 20. Lyon and Cummins only have taken a few wickets the last few games but they were standouts for mine as their control has given the spoils to bowlers at the other end
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+xthe scoreboard will give the glory to others but I thought Stoinis preventing the collapse gave us a chance even though it was 20. Lyon and Cummins only have taken a few wickets the last few games but they were standouts for mine as their control has given the spoils to bowlers at the other end So Cummins and Lyons bowled economically?
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Thanks for the comments, Grazor.
Interesting to read your insights.
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Gday all,
jaszyjim - Interesting game.
I can't believe that many of you are still singing Maxwell's praise.
Were you watching the game? he failed batting again, trying to slog
with no footwork - yes it was a great catch but Maxwell through poor
technique as usual, gave him the chance. As an allrounder he is failing.
He cannot be kept in for his fielding as there other ones out there, with a
better all round record than his.
Get rid of him & if you think I am wrong, what has he done in the last games
against quality opposition = nothing, he is the biggest negative in the team.
We batted well but were very lucky, Finch out before he got his feet moving,
Warner out to a delivery that surprised him but did not drop his hands.
Khawaja very lucky & the luck stayed with him for most of his innings.
Batting at 3 is the right place for him but I do not have confidence in him,
even though he has scored runs.
Smith just isn't in the groove, really hope he comes right, as we need him.
Stoinis still our best all rounder, not brilliant but our best at the moment.
Maxwell - failed again - drop him.
Carey another great innings with the bat, how many times has held the side
up against top opposition.
Cummins another good innings, nice to see him in the runs again.
Then there was Boult's hat trick, enough said.
Our bowling overall was very good with still some room for improvement.
The economy rate was under 5 except for Finch & Stoinis - good to see Smith being bowled.
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+xGday all, jaszyjim - Interesting game. I can't believe that many of you are still singing Maxwell's praise. Were you watching the game? he failed batting again, trying to slog with no footwork - yes it was a great catch but Maxwell through poor technique as usual, gave him the chance. As an allrounder he is failing. He cannot be kept in for his fielding as there other ones out there, with a better all round record than his. Get rid of him & if you think I am wrong, what has he done in the last games against quality opposition = nothing, he is the biggest negative in the team. We batted well but were very lucky, Finch out before he got his feet moving, Warner out to a delivery that surprised him but did not drop his hands. Khawaja very lucky & the luck stayed with him for most of his innings. Batting at 3 is the right place for him but I do not have confidence in him, even though he has scored runs. Smith just isn't in the groove, really hope he comes right, as we need him. Stoinis still our best all rounder, not brilliant but our best at the moment. Maxwell - failed again - drop him. Carey another great innings with the bat, how many times has held the side up against top opposition. Cummins another good innings, nice to see him in the runs again. Then there was Boult's hat trick, enough said. Our bowling overall was very good with still some room for improvement. The economy rate was under 5 except for Finch & Stoinis - good to see Smith being bowled. glad you aren't coach. The squad needs to be balanced and you also need two all round options to get 10 overs out of.
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+xGday all, jaszyjim - Interesting game. I can't believe that many of you are still singing Maxwell's praise. Were you watching the game? he failed batting again, trying to slog with no footwork - yes it was a great catch but Maxwell through poor technique as usual, gave him the chance. As an allrounder he is failing. He cannot be kept in for his fielding as there other ones out there, with a better all round record than his. Get rid of him & if you think I am wrong, what has he done in the last games against quality opposition = nothing, he is the biggest negative in the team. We batted well but were very lucky, Finch out before he got his feet moving, Warner out to a delivery that surprised him but did not drop his hands. Khawaja very lucky & the luck stayed with him for most of his innings. Batting at 3 is the right place for him but I do not have confidence in him, even though he has scored runs. Smith just isn't in the groove, really hope he comes right, as we need him. Stoinis still our best all rounder, not brilliant but our best at the moment. Maxwell - failed again - drop him. Carey another great innings with the bat, how many times has held the side up against top opposition. Cummins another good innings, nice to see him in the runs again. Then there was Boult's hat trick, enough said. Our bowling overall was very good with still some room for improvement. The economy rate was under 5 except for Finch & Stoinis - good to see Smith being bowled. Good round up, JJ.
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here's why I go easy on all rounders - its the hardest and one of the most important roles in the game. You are not only likely (except in the exceptional cases) the weakest batter, you train to play a t20 like innings when everyone else trains to play more conservatively. You are also the weakest bowler in the team. But You are absolutely needed in the squad because if you play on a road you are the player who gives the team the best chance to break 350+. A lot of people were calling for extra maxwell like players because they were expecting more roads this world cup but Langer's conservatism turned out to be correct as the pitches have had quite a bit in them.
Apart from batting, you have no choice to bowl some part timers as you can only bowl your strike bowlers for 40 overs. This means you need two all rounders so the batsmen don't get too used to one and blast them to all corners. You could argue that Marsh is slightly better than Stoinis but Maxwell is definitely one of our best two part timers. Also if we play on a road in the semi's he really gives us a chance to chase down a big score
So in other words when judging all rounders you need to look at other players playing a similar roll. Elite allrounders like Ali and Russell have all done worse than maxwell and maxwell has batted significantly better than stoinis. Pandya has been roughly the same. Stokes is a more conservative batsmen so he's done the best because players like Jos Butler are more your bruisers (and he's had a tough world cup). Maxwell's turned some poor finishes by australia into ok and good ones with useful cameos at the end scoring at the highest strike rate at the world cup. Sure games like today and the west indies I'd like to see a miracle like Symonds innings against pakistan a few world cups ago. But those are memorable because they are so freakishly rare. We have 2 all rounders that are really the best we can have and quite frankly they are matching their opposite numbers well enough. Stoinis's batting may not be up to par but he's bowling probably the best of any of the all rounders. Maxwell is also freakish in the field and out 3 deadly infielders have won us tight matches.
Modern ODI has somehow become the most interesting form of the game testing every part of your teams skillset from their t20 skills to their test batting/bowling skills. You need a balanced squad and we cannot win the world cup without one
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+xhere's why I go easy on all rounders - its the hardest and one of the most important roles in the game. You are not only likely (except in the exceptional cases) the weakest batter, you train to play a t20 like innings when everyone else trains to play more conservatively. You are also the weakest bowler in the team. But You are absolutely needed in the squad because if you play on a road you are the player who gives the team the best chance to break 350+. A lot of people were calling for extra maxwell like players because they were expecting more roads this world cup but Langer's conservatism turned out to be correct as the pitches have had quite a bit in them. Apart from batting, you have no choice to bowl some part timers as you can only bowl your strike bowlers for 40 overs. This means you need two all rounders so the batsmen don't get too used to one and blast them to all corners. You could argue that Marsh is slightly better than Stoinis but Maxwell is definitely one of our best two part timers. Also if we play on a road in the semi's he really gives us a chance to chase down a big score So in other words when judging all rounders you need to look at other players playing a similar roll. Elite allrounders like Ali and Russell have all done worse than maxwell and maxwell has batted significantly better than stoinis. Pandya has been roughly the same. Stokes is a more conservative batsmen so he's done the best because players like Jos Butler are more your bruisers (and he's had a tough world cup). Maxwell's turned some poor finishes by australia into ok and good ones with useful cameos at the end scoring at the highest strike rate at the world cup. Sure games like today and the west indies I'd like to see a miracle like Symonds innings against pakistan a few world cups ago. But those are memorable because they are so freakishly rare. We have 2 all rounders that are really the best we can have and quite frankly they are matching their opposite numbers well enough. Stoinis's batting may not be up to par but he's bowling probably the best of any of the all rounders. Maxwell is also freakish in the field and out 3 deadly infielders have won us tight matches. Modern ODI has somehow become the most interesting form of the game testing every part of your teams skillset from their t20 skills to their test batting/bowling skills. You need a balanced squad and we cannot win the world cup without one Gday gb, jaszyjim - Other than Maxwell agree with all your comments and very well put. We do need 2 all rounders and as you point out, a hard position to fill. My concern with Maxwell is he is not scoring and his bowling is being taken to by good batsmen. I agree he is brilliant in the field but, do not feel this makes up for what he is lacking at the moment. As for balancing the team, M. Marsh could replace him & the team would still be balanced. The team does not revolve around 1 player. I really hope I am proved wrong, as Maxwell will be kept, the next game will show us more and he will be required to bowl.
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we would require an injury to put in M Marsh under the laws
besides, I'd drop Stoinis for Marsh rather than maxwell. A like for like replacement, don't lose what you get in the field and Stoinis is averaging 16 with the bat this world cup
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+xwe would require an injury to put in M Marsh under the laws besides, I'd drop Stoinis for Marsh rather than maxwell. A like for like replacement, don't lose what you get in the field and Stoinis is averaging 16 with the bat this world cup Seeing the replay with Australia bowling was interesting as I was asleep when the Kiwis batted. A bit surprising that Lyon hasn't been selected in many games.
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