time to take a star off your flag so you can wave it tomorrow!

New zealands haven't had a great batting tournament but their bowling average has been pretty incredible this tournament. Their attack has taken 77 wickets at an incredible average of 27!

I’m not sure who I want to win? 

I feel very at home in both countries. 

Have either the Poms or Kiwis won a WC before? 

If they haven’t, it will be good to have a new winner of the comp. 

Rhetorical question and I’m sure you’re being ironic with the last bit :-)

Serious point though, how many more W Cups will there be since T20 & Test (championship) set to be the main versions?

No, I don’t know.

Poms must be pleased to dismiss Williamson for 30. 

Kiwis 2-114 at 26 over mark. 

You’ve been gracious after thrashing us in the semi. 

You haven’t gloated in victory! 

No, not gloating at all - we just scraped CWC on home soil by the barest of margins as Ian Smith put it.
 I couldn’t bear to watch the super over!

Tokyo Pom. You arent kidding you just scraped in. If there was an instance when the World Cup should be shared.. this is it. Finished even after the Super Over but as England had reached the boundary more often than the Kiwis.. she was awarded the Cup. Is this totally fair.. worse than the penalty shootout to decide soccer matches..  Kiwis should lodge an appeal!!

Seems a bit unfair, yes - gotta hand it to “who, me?” player of the tourney Kane Williamson with his “England deserved to win. These things happen, eh” summary afterwards 

Used to be (back in the day) the team who had lost fewer wkts prevailed in a tied match, ie NZ in this case

Seems far fairer. The most boundaries is a nonsense as the tracks are designed for boundary hitting. Gets bums on seats.

You are aware that is your countrymen's first WC victory. How long have you been playing this format. Started ODIs in what.. the 70s before Packer revolutionized the format.

Kane Williamson is a gentleman and a bloody good cricketer. Looking forward to having the Black Caps in Oz next summer.

See ya on the Countdown To the Ashes thread.

England played first ODI vs Australia at the MCG in 1971 after first few days of the Test got washed out.

Yeah I’ll be on the Countdown to the Ashes thread - I’m really struggling for tv or online access to telecast of the First Test at Edgbaston though :-(

Bit of spin on Rashid’s googly. 

England on top after dismissing Taylor. 

4-141 after 33 overs I’m not sure the Kiwis can set a defendable total. 

Plunkett’s high action seems to be working well on this pitch. 

Nice Latham pull for 6! 

With 4 wickets down, NZ are nearly at the 40 over mark and are only just over 4 runs an over. 

Methinks not enough to win. 

Nice few pulls and cuts from Neesham, but Plunkett gets Neesham out next ball! 

I thought Jonny Bairstow was a decent keeper for England if my memory is correct? 

Jos Buttler did well to supplant him. 

Impressive 10 over spell from Plunkett to secure figures of 3-42. 

Jofra Archer is bowling at 150km/h. This will give the Aussie batsmen a lot to deal with, especially if he can hit the right length and get swing/seam.

In the India series, none of the Aussie quicks were hitting 150km/h. I think Cummins and Hazlewood were usually at least ten klicks less. It’s a worry if none of the Aussie quicks are capable of bowling super quick.

Tasmania has a faster bowler than Archer- Riley Meredith. 

Meredith clocked 154 kph in a BBL game and played a full season of Shield cricket. 

anything in the pitch?

For pace, but unfortunately not spin. 

nz averaged 27 with the ball

they wouldve liked another 30

NZ get a howler lbw in their innings and despite the drs saying umps call, i think that was a howler against them

tough luck so far!

Which batter had the let off, Grazor?

taylor had a howler for NZ

then first ball from roy was plumb

DRS said umpires call but as a physicist i say dont trust ball tracking!

Roy gone but new ball to some degree seen off

umpire howler costly for nz i would think

Regulation keeper catch to dismiss the dangerous Roy from a Henry ourswinger. 

England 1-28 after 6 overs. 

Meredith was easily the  fastest  bowler in the Shield. 

The keepers, Paine and Wade, stood way further back to him than any other keeper keeping to any other bowler last season at Bellerive. 

Boult is bowling well- fast and gaining swing - although not always the right line. 

if NZ got another 20 scoreboard pressure comes into play here

in any case NZ bowling well without luck

a lot of chop ons missing the stumps and slashes missing the edge

dropped!

between luck and that drops NZ 3 wickets behind in the game

Caught and bowled - dropped! 

I always found C&B difficult to execute. 

you have to in a final though!

another nearly dragged on

English a charmed life here

another just short of a fielder

reminds me of the first time oz played England and England just couldnt get that elusive wicket

those 2 shots (and the wicket) are scoreboard pressure

You look back at the last game against australia and we got flogged. But its amazing how an extra 20 runs and you get wickets with the scoreboard

No matter what the scoreboard says at the end of the game, cricket is often decided by a dozen runs each way

well NZ have 4 bowlers threatening. What an attack!

a couple more here before the 30th and its really game on!

scoreboard pressure coming into play ever so slightly now with the RRR getting close to 6

gee they need another 10 or so

England push for 2 when its not on but a terrible throw and its a letoff

mogan mishits a short ball but falls safely

another mishit falls safely just over the head of cover for 2

its definitely a pitch for your dibbly dobblers

henry and de grandhomme 2-24 off 12 so far between them

great shot from bairstrow through the covers

imagine if de grandhomme swallowed that catch. He's the only one to hit any ball convincingly

finally bairstow chops one on

he cant complain about luck! Chopped on a bunch, got dropped, a few balls just missing fielders, ball just missing the edge a bunch of times

1 more wicket in the next 10 and its game on!

Morgan and Stokes are the last players that can play for 50 overs on a pitch like this

I wonder if the keeper coming up to the stumps against de gandhomme would get a wicket

NZ got the 2 batters who got a life, but it did mean the middle order weren't exposed to good conditions

still 1 more wicket here and its advantage new zealand i think

they are charging de grandhomme every ball here

they get one for four but would have been stumped a number of times

caught in the deep! Soft signal out!

screemer! No doubt!

NZ on top now!

Need 1 more before the 35th

NZ having 5 wicket taking bowlers and even England have had to revert to having 5 specialist bowlers

Going forward I think Australia should play 5 specialist bowlers and no all rounders

chipped short of mid-on!

nicked off de grandhomme but the keeper is up and drops it!

Can you have 2 wicket keepers? One forward one back haha

a harsh person would call that  catching opportunity

but it goes for four

under edge but safely pulled for a single

not a lot off the middle of the bat

buttler can't help going faster than 6po 9 off 8 so far

if they get him early its real trouble, bowling all rounders will probably play like tail enders in these conditions

Good fight back from England here

NZ just need to break this partnership

spin on, 7 5th bowler overs to come

England need 6.5 an over from here

NZ were just 10 runs short I thought in their innings which would push things above 7po. Wonder if it will cost them

looks a terrible review here

lets see ball tracking

again some luck going against new zealand, just a few chances just missing fielders

they need a bit of luck and then its into the tail

under 100 needed

ferguson and boult so far been a little off this match

they need to lift

lockie with 6 overs to go starts with a wide long hop put away for 4

spooned in the air and again just missed the fielder!

another chop on just misses the stumps!

NZ no luck, just need one stroke of luck

chipped to mid on and again just short!

next ball hit for 4

England edge their noses well in front

I think NZ total was a dozen short

Turned out to be a decent total! 

72 needed off the last 10

6 wickets in hand, favourites I think

NZ just a dozen short but still a chance

good over so far from ferguson

wicket has really eased you have to say

just 3 off that over

a couple more overs like that could make things interesting but they most of all need a wicket!

yorker nearly bowls him!

just 4 off that over

hard to accelerate but these 2 are some of the best at the cup

asking rate over 8 so now scoreboard pressure will matter if a wicket falls

nearly a run out but just misses

Lockie takes a wicket!

Just a few overs too late

Still if stokes gets out it's advantage nz!

Nz dropped a catch, were poor with the drs in both innings but have shown fight to be in with a chance here

Woakes gone! And it's a dot ball

6 down pressure on both sides!

Mishit for 1

How much luck has England had?


New Zealand so mentally strong to not let it get to them

Just 5 off that over 34 needed of 18

Bolt to finish

Four off the first ball
If he gets stokes it could be game

Wicket and a dot! 22 needed off 9 slight advantage New Zealand but anyone's game!

6 from stokes 16 off 8
Advantage england

Wow nearly a runout but the overthrows deflect for 6! Have u ever seen a team get more luck?

Game ends in a tie! Super over ends in a tie! 

England win on a technicality

If it was wickets rather than boundaries it goes the other way.

all the luck went in 1 direction, and if England weren't going to win with that much luck on home soil with the best batting line up they've had in decades they were never going to win

still what a finish followed by another dramatic finish. Shame they can't share the cup!

Key moments in the game that NZ will look back on

1. Wasting a review and then getting a howler against ross taylor
2. ducking the last ball of their innings and not scampering through for a bye. With the game decided by 0 runs 1 run could have won the world cup
3. a missile first ball not given out and then given umpires call. We measure the doubt by needing 51% of the ball hitting the stumps, so umpires call stood. But you can see the stumps and it hit him fairly deep at a low height. So unlucky. He would only make a few but it meant the middle order didn't have to come in against a boult with his tail up. Boult eventually became their weakest bowler
4. De Granhomme dropping a return catch. Bairstow would then make another 30 odd and shield the middle order from the new ball
5. chop ons not hitting the stumps, swings missing the edge, ball spooning in the air to fall safe. What a horrible run of luck that will give our neighbours nightmares. Glad it wasn't happening to us!
6. 6 off overthrows. You rarely see it and it was nearly a run out. In the end it got England to the tie and the super over

As for Australia, I hope we have a plan for how we will compete at the next world cup. We often have superstars come from no where, lets hope that continues. But do we need a style?

England formed a style of #batdeep but changed their style mid tournament to have 5 specialist bowlers. New zealand also had no weak bowlers. I like the focus on the ball. These days teams can chase 400 and it is much more key skill to take wickets. 

I hope we have 6 batters including the keeper and 5 specialist bowlers with no all rounders. But we'll see what cattle comes through and plan accordingly

Good round up. 

Saw De Groundhomme’s dropped caught and bowled. 

Fair play to England winning. 

Even if if they were lucky with the rules. 

some claims going around the internet that England should have gotten 5 for the overthrow incident rather than 6

https://www.smh.com.au/sport/cricket/england-should-have-got-five-runs-not-six-for-pivotal-cup-incident-20190715-p527be.html

Your whining media instigating it surprise surprise

We look out for our little brother ;) besides I don't think anyone would want their team to lose this way!
To be fair it looks like the first article was espn

To be fair Archer’s first delivery in the champagne super over was not a wide....

ifs, buts & maybes

how was this not a wide? You can see the ball and the white line
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-nNJVv48OZM

it literally bounces outside the line. Not exactly a grey area

The roar today asks what would happen if it was any other team but NZ

https://www.theroar.com.au/2019/07/16/new-zealand-were-robbed-in-the-world-cup-final/