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England edge their noses well in front

I think NZ total was a dozen short
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72 needed off the last 10

6 wickets in hand, favourites I think

NZ just a dozen short but still a chance
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good over so far from ferguson
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wicket has really eased you have to say
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just 3 off that over

a couple more overs like that could make things interesting but they most of all need a wicket!
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yorker nearly bowls him!
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just 4 off that over

hard to accelerate but these 2 are some of the best at the cup
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asking rate over 8 so now scoreboard pressure will matter if a wicket falls
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nearly a run out but just misses
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Lockie takes a wicket!

Just a few overs too late

Still if stokes gets out it's advantage nz!
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Nz dropped a catch, were poor with the drs in both innings but have shown fight to be in with a chance here
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Woakes gone! And it's a dot ball

6 down pressure on both sides!
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Mishit for 1

How much luck has England had?


New Zealand so mentally strong to not let it get to them



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Just 5 off that over 34 needed of 18
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Bolt to finish

Four off the first ball
If he gets stokes it could be game
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Wicket and a dot! 22 needed off 9 slight advantage New Zealand but anyone's game!
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6 from stokes 16 off 8
Advantage england
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Wow nearly a runout but the overthrows deflect for 6! Have u ever seen a team get more luck?
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Game ends in a tie! Super over ends in a tie! 

England win on a technicality

If it was wickets rather than boundaries it goes the other way.

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all the luck went in 1 direction, and if England weren't going to win with that much luck on home soil with the best batting line up they've had in decades they were never going to win

still what a finish followed by another dramatic finish. Shame they can't share the cup!

Key moments in the game that NZ will look back on

1. Wasting a review and then getting a howler against ross taylor
2. ducking the last ball of their innings and not scampering through for a bye. With the game decided by 0 runs 1 run could have won the world cup
3. a missile first ball not given out and then given umpires call. We measure the doubt by needing 51% of the ball hitting the stumps, so umpires call stood. But you can see the stumps and it hit him fairly deep at a low height. So unlucky. He would only make a few but it meant the middle order didn't have to come in against a boult with his tail up. Boult eventually became their weakest bowler
4. De Granhomme dropping a return catch. Bairstow would then make another 30 odd and shield the middle order from the new ball
5. chop ons not hitting the stumps, swings missing the edge, ball spooning in the air to fall safe. What a horrible run of luck that will give our neighbours nightmares. Glad it wasn't happening to us!
6. 6 off overthrows. You rarely see it and it was nearly a run out. In the end it got England to the tie and the super over

As for Australia, I hope we have a plan for how we will compete at the next world cup. We often have superstars come from no where, lets hope that continues. But do we need a style?

England formed a style of #batdeep but changed their style mid tournament to have 5 specialist bowlers. New zealand also had no weak bowlers. I like the focus on the ball. These days teams can chase 400 and it is much more key skill to take wickets. 

I hope we have 6 batters including the keeper and 5 specialist bowlers with no all rounders. But we'll see what cattle comes through and plan accordingly


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Decentric - 14 Jul 2019 10:04 PM
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You’ve been gracious after thrashing us in the semi. 

You haven’t gloated in victory! 

No, not gloating at all - we just scraped CWC on home soil by the barest of margins as Ian Smith put it.
 I couldn’t bear to watch the super over!
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TokyoPom - 15 Jul 2019 7:08 AM
Decentric - 14 Jul 2019 10:04 PM

No, not gloating at all - we just scraped CWC on home soil by the barest of margins as Ian Smith put it.
 I couldn’t bear to watch the super over!

Tokyo Pom. You arent kidding you just scraped in. If there was an instance when the World Cup should be shared.. this is it. Finished even after the Super Over but as England had reached the boundary more often than the Kiwis.. she was awarded the Cup. Is this totally fair.. worse than the penalty shootout to decide soccer matches..  Kiwis should lodge an appeal!!
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baggygreenmania - 15 Jul 2019 8:49 AM
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Tokyo Pom. You arent kidding you just scraped in. If there was an instance when the World Cup should be shared.. this is it. Finished even after the Super Over but as England had reached the boundary more often than the Kiwis.. she was awarded the Cup. Is this totally fair.. worse than the penalty shootout to decide soccer matches..  Kiwis should lodge an appeal!!

Seems a bit unfair, yes - gotta hand it to “who, me?” player of the tourney Kane Williamson with his “England deserved to win. These things happen, eh” summary afterwards 

Used to be (back in the day) the team who had lost fewer wkts prevailed in a tied match, ie NZ in this case
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TokyoPom - 15 Jul 2019 12:50 PM
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Seems a bit unfair, yes - gotta hand it to “who, me?” player of the tourney Kane Williamson with his “England deserved to win. These things happen, eh” summary afterwards 

Used to be (back in the day) the team who had lost fewer wkts prevailed in a tied match, ie NZ in this case

Seems far fairer. The most boundaries is a nonsense as the tracks are designed for boundary hitting. Gets bums on seats.

You are aware that is your countrymen's first WC victory. How long have you been playing this format. Started ODIs in what.. the 70s before Packer revolutionized the format.

Kane Williamson is a gentleman and a bloody good cricketer. Looking forward to having the Black Caps in Oz next summer.

See ya on the Countdown To the Ashes thread.
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grazorblade - 15 Jul 2019 6:26 AM
all the luck went in 1 direction, and if England weren't going to win with that much luck on home soil with the best batting line up they've had in decades they were never going to win

still what a finish followed by another dramatic finish. Shame they can't share the cup!

Key moments in the game that NZ will look back on

1. Wasting a review and then getting a howler against ross taylor
2. ducking the last ball of their innings and not scampering through for a bye. With the game decided by 0 runs 1 run could have won the world cup
3. a missile first ball not given out and then given umpires call. We measure the doubt by needing 51% of the ball hitting the stumps, so umpires call stood. But you can see the stumps and it hit him fairly deep at a low height. So unlucky. He would only make a few but it meant the middle order didn't have to come in against a boult with his tail up. Boult eventually became their weakest bowler
4. De Granhomme dropping a return catch. Bairstow would then make another 30 odd and shield the middle order from the new ball
5. chop ons not hitting the stumps, swings missing the edge, ball spooning in the air to fall safe. What a horrible run of luck that will give our neighbours nightmares. Glad it wasn't happening to us!
6. 6 off overthrows. You rarely see it and it was nearly a run out. In the end it got England to the tie and the super over

As for Australia, I hope we have a plan for how we will compete at the next world cup. We often have superstars come from no where, lets hope that continues. But do we need a style?

England formed a style of #batdeep but changed their style mid tournament to have 5 specialist bowlers. New zealand also had no weak bowlers. I like the focus on the ball. These days teams can chase 400 and it is much more key skill to take wickets. 

I hope we have 6 batters including the keeper and 5 specialist bowlers with no all rounders. But we'll see what cattle comes through and plan accordingly


Good round up. 

Saw De Groundhomme’s dropped caught and bowled. 
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Fair play to England winning. 

Even if if they were lucky with the rules. 
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grazorblade - 15 Jul 2019 3:00 AM
England edge their noses well in front

I think NZ total was a dozen short

Turned out to be a decent total! 
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baggygreenmania - 15 Jul 2019 3:10 PM
TokyoPom - 15 Jul 2019 12:50 PM

Seems far fairer. The most boundaries is a nonsense 

How long have you been playing this format. Started ODIs in what.. the 70s before Packer revolutionized the format

See ya on the Countdown To the Ashes thread.

England played first ODI vs Australia at the MCG in 1971 after first few days of the Test got washed out.

Yeah I’ll be on the Countdown to the Ashes thread - I’m really struggling for tv or online access to telecast of the First Test at Edgbaston though :-(
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some claims going around the internet that England should have gotten 5 for the overthrow incident rather than 6
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grazorblade - 15 Jul 2019 11:46 PM
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some claims going around the internet that England should have gotten 5 for the overthrow incident rather than 6

https://www.smh.com.au/sport/cricket/england-should-have-got-five-runs-not-six-for-pivotal-cup-incident-20190715-p527be.html

Your whining media instigating it surprise surprise



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