As a forward there are 2 key stats you are judged on, goals and assists, ignoring them because it doesnt suit your narrative of him being a star doesnt change that fact.

I have watched him play and there is potential but unlike many on here I have not got wrapped up in the hype because the end product is missing........ just like his last 2 managers

Rather than look at stats as a stand alone decider of a players value watch him play. His style of play and directness means he is pulling defenders and midfielders out of position constantly to cover after he goes past a man. What that does is open up space for other players to exploit. He may not always get the final pass for the assist but it is the work he does that creates the room to open space for final passes and as a result chances. 

If your intent is to suggest that he has work to do in developing a final ball or finishing then yes ill agree with you but to say he isnt good enough as it stands i think is little more than knocking a young player down for the sake of it

Yeah perhaps. Will see what level he is playing at in 5 years or so... I predict epl or bundesliga at least

What better/quicker way to see display of his skills?!
Do you really think Manchester City would sign him if he wasn’t a class player?! 

Agree.  It will get some competitive game time into him.

In a comp where majority of passes are backwards and average age is 30+, a young player who wants to go forward will always generate excitement, but facts are in 25 senior appearances (1,275 minutes of play) he has scored 2 goals and has 3 assists. For NT is is 1 goal in a firendly against Hungary. Hardly world beating and Rogers said it when he arrived at Celtic (he has a long way to go) and obviously Lennon doesnt see the potential either, so perhaps the harsh reality is he aint that good.

https://www.transfermarkt.com/daniel-arzani/leistungsdatendetails/spieler/399997

We've seen Arzani play both here in australia and on an international stage. He is an exceptional talent. You dont need youtube videos to see that.

It may just be a case of he isnt the style of player that suits what Lennon wants to do or alternatively may still be short of a gallop following probably the worst injury a footballer can get.

The most important thing is that he gets back playing football asap. 

Mate GTF with you youtube rubbish, there are thousands on youtube who look like Pele.

Visit YouTube, search ‘Daniel Arzani highlights’ and see what he can do

I know there are a lot of qualified coaches on here, but perhaps Arzani isnt playing much for Celtic because he isnt that good.

Celtic fans will have a sook regardless lol

At this stage it is better for him, guaranteed  football. As good as he is he hardly had played full games. 

“CELTIC winger Daniel Arzani is set to miss a further month of football later this season after Australia confirmed they want him for an Olympic qualifying tournament in Thailand.”

https://www.thescottishsun.co.uk/sport/football/4706610/daniel-arzani-celtic-australia-olympics-injury/

Valid point.

Hmmm, maybe at first, as there is a bit of a difference between the two (depending which time of year one moves). That said, Arzani has now been there for over a year, so I don't think it would be to bad for him now. Also, (IMO/personal experience) it is easier to adjust from a hot climate to a cold climate, then the other way around. Especially when it comes to physical activities and the like.

What I'm concerned about is the drastic change in climate from Australia to Scotland. If you grow up playing in Oz then you transfer to one of the coldest places on the planet I just wonder if this has contributed to the horrible injury run Rogic send Arzani have had.

yep some types take a lot longer gaining confidence after an ACL op some don't.
They way the SPL plays the longer he spends strengthening his body more so his legs the better.

So, he has played a little over an hour during the World Cup (over a year ago). A handful of minute back in November, and does his ACL during that same match. He has only just returned to training, and you think he is ready, while those who see him everyday still believes he still has some work to do, to get up to speed with the rest of his team mates.

Arzani's first battle isn't against SPL teams - It's against his fellow team mates who play the same positions as he does. If he is good enough, he will get minutes. As I have said before, he is the type of winger that Lennon loves.

Look, we are going around in circles here. So I'm just going to end with....  There is no need to rush things with the lad until he is fully ready to play, especially when an ACL is involved.  You want to rush him back premature, that's fine, that's your opinion. I would rather go by those who see him everyday at training, as to how far along he has come from his injury.

On that note, I'm just going to agree to disagree.

Approx. 12 against France. 25 against Denmark. 35 against Peru. Played great in all games- nearly scored, creating good chances (combined well with Rogic btw) But can’t get 1 minute in SPL. Hmm... How many minutes did the Scottish born Celtic players get in Wcup?! I assume a big fat zero?! Bert Van Marwijk coached Australia at Wcup last year. Coached Wcup runners up Netherlands side in 2010- and he chose Arzani in all 3 crucial Wcup games. How many sides has Lennon coached in WCup matches?! Just give him some minutes Lennon... enough said I think.

Is Celtic wasting a place on Daniel Arzani?

“Ex-Chelsea goalkeeper Mark Schwarzer has questioned youngster Daniel Arzani's loan move to Celtic - suggesting it was not the right move for the playmaker.”
https://www.eveningtimes.co.uk/sport/17889680.ex-chelsea-star-mark-schwarzer-questions-daniel-arzanis-loan-move-celtic/

How many minutes did he play during the World Cup??

I have never said he wasn't good enough. He does a battle on his hands to replace those ahead of him. And he needs to get up to speed fitness wise.

Watched all of them. It’s the SPL - Not the bloody WCup! His minutes against France were good and looked incredible against Denmark. He can kill SPL if given the chance...

Watched all of them. Arzani is good enough...

no rush

First things first... Arzani is only at Celtic on loan, not a permanent contract.

Secondly... Celtic has a great record when it comes to developing "diamonds in the rough" and turn them into quality players. A big part as to why Man City allowed Arzani to go to Celtic on loan in the first place.

Third... He is recovering from an ACL injury.

Forth... There has only been four league matches played so far this season. Arzani is playing catch up, as he has not had a proper preseason unlike the rest of the players. He is behind the eight ball when it comes to his fitness levels, and as to where he currently finds himself in the pecking order.

Now, Man City has a recall player condition in the Arzani deal made with Celtic. The [FACT] that Man City has not recalled him from Celtic, and sent him out on loan to another team, shows that they to feel/believe he is not fully ready to be playing just yet. 

As for when Arzani is fit enough to play, he won't be an automatic pick to play. He will need to battle and replace the players who are ahead of him. And on current form, he has a huge battle on his hands at replacing those who are currently playing.


Question... How many Celtic matches have you actually watched so far this season??

I mean Celtic STILL hasn’t included him in any squads- even in SPL games- since he was given all clear to play weeks ago... what a waste. He is obviously not going to be re-signed by Celtic if they refuse to put him on, even for 10-15 minutes. Arzani will be let go by Celtic at end of contract... Bunch of dumb arses running that club that can’t recognise an unpolished diamond when they see it. The 1 game he did play he was great- perfect pass to what should hav been a certain goal. Has Lennon even watched that game?! 

Strange isn't it.

Arzani's injury had everything to do with him turning awkwardly and nothing to do with him leaving too early. 

Players injure themselves all the time. Even in Scotland , even in the A-League. I don't get why ppl look to blame things. It's sport its Marbo the vibe etc

Wasn't up to him though, he had to head to the mothership for CFG's FFP ledger. Ideally in hindsight he could have been loaned back to Melbourne City to continue developing, but the salary cap ruled that out.