Garner has always been highly regarded.

Lyon is now on 387 wickets and only has 5 spinners in front of him.

I've always though of him as an economical bowler, but his average runs per over is just over 3.

Seeing how high Southee is on  this list, is this the demise of his career?

I thought  he bowled well at times without luck in the first two Tests.

And as should have happened earlier, despite not fit TRJ or Stone, but with fit Anderson and Wood back - Stuart Broad has been dropped.

My feelings on Broad's abilities as against his "reputation" are well documented on here and I would have long dropped him before.

https://www.espncricinfo.com/series/19497/game/1225247/england-vs-west-indies-1st-test-west-indies-in-england-2020

England with Archer, Wood and Stone are making a deliberate and obvious move towards extra pace as they presumably seek to build a team for the Ashes in Australia.

I expect Broad to return this summer though as England are going to try and play 6 or 7 tests in half the time they usually do so I expect their to be bowler rotation.

Indeed. Another problem was the door it opened for other "shonky" bowling actions that seemed to crop up at the time. Though it didn't take them long to clean it up after a certain retirement. If I remember correctly, the ICC fell out with the "experts" involved, and turned to different (some might say more realistic) "experts" re appraisal of bowling actions, in effort to clamp down on it and clean the game up. A good thing.

It looks like the poms have realised that the experiment with leaving Broad out was a mistake. Not the least because they lost, but also because the bowling was often loose.

In the past year Broad has topped the wickets tally in the Ashes series and away against the Saffers. 48 wickets at 23 in twelve tests in the last year isn't bad going, especially when you consider the way he can run through an opposition on his day with genuine series defining spells of bowling. With Anderson nearing his use by date, Archer looking a "fair weather" bowler who seems to lack effort when conditions aren't helpful and Wood reasonably quick but also reasonably run of the mill, it's unlikely he will be out for the next one.

https://www.bbc.com/sport/cricket/53371020

Looks like Nasser agrees. He's usually quite astute.

England Made Mistake Leaving Stuart Broad: Nasser Hussain

“I do feel England have made a mistake by leaving him out. It’s as if they’ve chosen a side for a flat pitch overseas with the Kookaburra — not an English surface under grey skies with the Dukes,” Nasser Hussain wrote in his column for Daily Mail. 

“The conditions have cried out for Anderson and Broad to do their thing. If this was Brisbane, and you wanted to break up the two old warhorses, then I’d just about understand the logic. But we’re talking about Southampton,” he added.

Archer and Wood failed to be on the mark in absence of Broad on Day 3. Both the fast bowlers bowled 24 overs each with Wood picking up the lone wicket of tailender Shannon Gabriel while Archer went wicketless. Anderson, on the other hand, picked up four wickets for England but he seemingly lacked support from the other end which was filled up by Ben Stokes’ bowling up to some extent.

https://cricketaddictor.com/cricket/england-stuart-broad-nasser-hussain/

Lol @ mistake.

Lol at Broad in past 2 ashes series bar Warner. 

Broad is gone bar rotation. 

You heard it here first. 

Anderson, Archer, Wood, Woakes... And imo Stone if he lives up to the hype have replaced him as a front liner bar rotation for England.

And right now - it seems the selectors agree.

And Slamming Sam bats even if he only bowls well in England with a Dukes.

Auf weirder-sen Stuart. 

He will not play in Aus next Ashes as a front liner. Calling it now...

Shouldn't have played the last Ashes imo.


bye bye Stuart.

Notice that thanks to a Broad spell on day 4, the poms actually managed to turn a match heading for a bore draw into a victory, also leaving open the possibility now of taking the series. Although not at his best and on a dry pitch that wouldn't help him. Over the years he has shown that rare ability to completely change the direction of a series with an inspired spell of bowling, especially in England. 

It won't mention this on statsguru though, it'll just say he took some wickets for some runs. Though for fans/pundits who place more value on the cricket itself, such nuance will be obvious.

https://www.foxsports.com.au/cricket/countries/england/england-vs-west-indies-second-test-video-highlights-stuart-broad-takes-three-wickets-at-old-trafford-on-day-four/news-story/5267e96ef01d64dd2f654bb73e5dafc6

It seems that after clawing the poms back into the series with an inspired spell in match two, Broad then put in a 10-67 MoM performance (and a half century with the bat) in the decider to help the poms clinch the series. Also taking player of the series despite only playing in two matches. What a mug! lol.

He might not play in the next Ashes with his lack of pace at this late stage of his career, but it probably won't really matter who bowls for the poms anyway (any more than it mattered for the kiwis).