mouflonrouge
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Yep them too. WU are looking to be a huge flop! But got to give them a chance at least
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southmelb
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+xYep them too. WU are looking to be a huge flop! But got to give them a chance at least They should be able to sustain crowds of 5k as long as they keep consistently getting points. Test will be once they start travelling..if the losses rack up could get ugly over the summer.
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Mark457
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+x+xEveryone having a go at City, yet no one mentioning or complaining about Newcastle right now who are playing in a similar looking attendance but have the luxury of decent weather for fans to go and attend. Yeah okay. Yet Melbourne has a population of almost 5 million whilst around 400k live in and around Newcastle. Along with that Melbourne City were 'celebrating' their 10 year anniversary, there was major advertising and it was talked up a lot more then there average games, whilst the Jets are playing a typical game against the glory. (Hard place for away fans to travel in Aus, especially compared to Melbourne) Also considering the form of both teams, City top of the league, unbeaten in 14 at home, whilst the Jets have 1 point in three games and were thrashed last week, would think more City fans could jump on board. Some would say the smaller population enables a club to link with a distinct regional identity. This is some ways is easier. If people ask the Jets what do they stand for, simple Newcastle and its people. Can’t say the same of City.
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bluebird
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I'm sure the forum can brainstorm and try to come up with the 3 reasons required for it to be a "not bad considering" Listing the day and kick off time are the two gimmes. Pretty sure there was a cloud in Geelong last week
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Waz
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5,391 5,578 6,144 6,532 6,711 7,008
theyre the lowest NRL crowds from the season just completed. The sky does not fall just because some clubs pull in low crowds.
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bluebird
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+x5,391 5,578 6,144 6,532 6,711 7,008 theyre the lowest NRL crowds from the season just completed. The sky does not fall just because some clubs pull in low crowds. The highest attendance aside from MV, SFC, WSW and BR is 9,903 By some clubs you mean 7 out of 11. The average for those clubs is just over 8k, and thats excluding this round where every game so far has been lower
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libel
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+xI'm sure the forum can brainstorm and try to come up with the 3 reasons required for it to be a "not bad considering" Listing the day and kick off time are the two gimmes. Pretty sure there was a cloud in Geelong last week LOL And WU's second highest ever "non-derby" crowd ?
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Waz
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+x+x5,391 5,578 6,144 6,532 6,711 7,008 theyre the lowest NRL crowds from the season just completed. The sky does not fall just because some clubs pull in low crowds. The highest attendance aside from MV, SFC, WSW and BR is 9,903 By some clubs you mean 7 out of 11. The average for those clubs is just over 8k, and thats excluding this round where every game so far has been lower We are a code that sits behind AFL, NRL, BBL and Supercars in the nations sporting consciousness - we shouldn’t beat ourselves up over low crowds when other codes get them too. We are coming to the end of a FIVE year period where the FFA, led by Lowy and Gallop, has been at war with its stakeholders - it’s had major fights with supporters, broadcasters, players, club owners, State Federations, Players Union, Coaches Union, Coaches themselves especially NT coaches (did I miss anyone?) .... the steady and relentless decline in crowds and viewership coincided with this period. And even when averages were much better at 13-15k we were still seeing low crowds of 4-6k, reading some of the comments about crowd size it looks like some people only started following the A League this season. Plenty needs to change and improve - but when it does, we’ll still see low crowds of 4-6k ... because we always have.
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libel
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Sure, all the rusted on fans know the games are on this season, nothing to see here...
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bluebird
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+x+x+x5,391 5,578 6,144 6,532 6,711 7,008 theyre the lowest NRL crowds from the season just completed. The sky does not fall just because some clubs pull in low crowds. The highest attendance aside from MV, SFC, WSW and BR is 9,903 By some clubs you mean 7 out of 11. The average for those clubs is just over 8k, and thats excluding this round where every game so far has been lower We are a code that sits behind AFL, NRL, BBL and Supercars in the nations sporting consciousness - we shouldn’t beat ourselves up over low crowds when other codes get them too. Right, so why: . $400k concessions for WU to help them be competitive (and I wont accept the loyalty rule unless you can prove each club is at least $400k better off) . 6 Melbourne derbies in 13 rounds . An unbalanced draw with high rating fixtures getting precedence . Turning down 14 bids because there are fish in a 3rd Melbourne market (and Sydney) If we are behind all those other codes then you'd think we wouldnt be trying to build 12 clubs of the same size and paying for them out of a central TV deal. You can't blame Lowy and Gallop for the current mob carrying their decisions forward. This Australian way of doing something is ingrained in Australian Sports administrators. It doesnt matter who we get, you'll see the same outcome It's easy to imagine that a proper competitive league would actually be performing better metrics wise than this trainwreck. Everything football has been put last to maximise attendance figures. To then simply accept them is insulting
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Just posting for comparison sake
Melbourne Heart first 3 home game crowds in first season: 11,050 5,878 4,184 Western United first 3 home game crowds in first season: 6,888 7,042 4,558
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+x+x+xSo lets go through it Adelaide = perfect stadium, only negative is shelter/shade and in need of a central CBD location Brisbane = need to play in a 15-20k stadium CCM = need a 11-12k stadium Melb Victory = need to play every home game at AAMI Melb City = need a 10-15k football specific stadium Newcastle = play in a stadium far too big, they should be in a 12-13k stadium tops Perth = About right probably 2-3k too big but its okay Sydn = need a 20k stadium Wel = far too big of a stadium, need a 11-12k stadium tops WSW = stadium is too big should be a tops 20-22k stadium will look empty with a 14-15k crowd WUFC = reserved judgement until they "build" their own, should be 11-12k I believe that wildly over sized stadiums are the single most important problem that the A League has, and there is no solution. No one is going to build the stadiums themselves clubs need. Brisbane can and should build a stadium - for what they’re paying to rent Suncorp they can service a loan nix could move and, like Roar, are exploring options. What options to Brisbane actually have? Moving into a developed stadium already, or constructing a new one? And if so, where?
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+x5,391 5,578 6,144 6,532 6,711 7,008 theyre the lowest NRL crowds from the season just completed. The sky does not fall just because some clubs pull in low crowds. But offset by very strong TV ratings, which is where the money comes from, as we all know.
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Heart_fan
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+x+x5,391 5,578 6,144 6,532 6,711 7,008 theyre the lowest NRL crowds from the season just completed. The sky does not fall just because some clubs pull in low crowds. But offset by very strong TV ratings, which is where the money comes from, as we all know. Certainly goes against a view that atmosphere in a stadium brings in viewers though. The most important factor to the success of the AFL and NRL is their engrained supporter base, which have been able to have generations to develop solid support. Unfortunately, our game has lurched from one disaster to another in this country over its time (ie. FIFA suspensions, game dominated by politics and ethnicity debates etc.).
There has not been a strong foundation built to support the game, and this media have not been remotely interested in what we have to offer in any positive light, instead focusing on the negative.
We are stuck in neutral at best until we can somehow prove our product is solid on a consistent basis, have stability in the management of the game and generate more interest in our existing base to get others excited to join in also. That’s when the real money will start to flow, as broadcasters and sponsors will see the true value of the world game from a local and international context.
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charlied
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+x+x+x5,391 5,578 6,144 6,532 6,711 7,008 theyre the lowest NRL crowds from the season just completed. The sky does not fall just because some clubs pull in low crowds. But offset by very strong TV ratings, which is where the money comes from, as we all know. Certainly goes against a view that atmosphere in a stadium brings in viewers though. The most important factor to the success of the AFL and NRL is their engrained supporter base, which have been able to have generations to develop solid support. Unfortunately, our game has lurched from one disaster to another in this country over its time (ie. FIFA suspensions, game dominated by politics and ethnicity debates etc.).
There has not been a strong foundation built to support the game, and this media have not been remotely interested in what we have to offer in any positive light, instead focusing on the negative.
We are stuck in neutral at best until we can somehow prove our product is solid on a consistent basis, have stability in the management of the game and generate more interest in our existing base to get others excited to join in also. That’s when the real money will start to flow, as broadcasters and sponsors will see the true value of the world game from a local and international context. Excellent post
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Not sure if I've ever seen Aami Park so empty for a MVFC a-league fixture? Still a decent crowd by the looks, just not at Victory's standard.
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Heart_fan
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+xNot sure if I've ever seen Aami Park so empty for a MVFC a-league fixture? Still a decent crowd by the looks, just not at Victory's standard. Agree with that. A bit of a shock but how’s to show how things fall away when results are t in some teams favour.
I am more worried by City who are top and can’t get over 6k this week. Weather is far better today compared to the last 2 days (which likely had an effect on both MC and WU matches), but overall it does seem that the Victorian market is taking some time to find its feet with 3 clubs.
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15k for mv (and another conveniently "just over" figure at that), deary me what a disaster this season is looking like...
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Adelaide v Brisbane - 8,428
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southmelb
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+xNot sure if I've ever seen Aami Park so empty for a MVFC a-league fixture? Still a decent crowd by the looks, just not at Victory's standard. They’ve had way less many times before. Stadium was half full so figure is about right, shows how much city fudge though.
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Roy88
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So whats the Average attendants for this round 6k?
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+xSo whats the Average attendants for this round 6k? Around 8.3k. Obviously inflated by the Victory home game.
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terrible crowds no doubt. but some encouraging TV ratings.
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+xterrible crowds no doubt. but some encouraging TV ratings. That’s a positive. In b4 libel blames the new board for tv and it’s role in society.
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+x15k for mv (and another conveniently "just over" figure at that), deary me what a disaster this season is looking like... Oh it sure is... if only S.Lowy was still here.
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+x+xNot sure if I've ever seen Aami Park so empty for a MVFC a-league fixture? Still a decent crowd by the looks, just not at Victory's standard. They’ve had way less many times before. Stadium was half full so figure is about right, shows how much city fudge though. Victory seem to get lower crowds at AAMI than Etihad, bizarre.
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+x+x15k for mv (and another conveniently "just over" figure at that), deary me what a disaster this season is looking like... Oh it sure is... if only S.Lowy was still here. Why?....So here can re-introduce pet memberships for all franchises with fries?
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+xVictory seem to get lower crowds at AAMI than Etihad, bizarre. if we want the club to listen to the fans and dump games at marvel, we need to do the opposite.
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+x+x15k for mv (and another conveniently "just over" figure at that), deary me what a disaster this season is looking like... Oh it sure is... if only S.Lowy was still here. No doubt several thousand still boycotting football following Lowy's dismissal #justiceforouroverlordsandprotectors
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saweston
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+x+x+x15k for mv (and another conveniently "just over" figure at that), deary me what a disaster this season is looking like... Oh it sure is... if only S.Lowy was still here. No doubt several thousand still boycotting football following Lowy's dismissal #justiceforouroverlordsandprotectors Haha definitely, it's a wonder the sport even still exists in the country with S.Lowy not at the helm. Who does this new indy HAL think they are?... #biteLibelbite
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