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+x+x+xThe problem is you are looking in the background to gauge the appeal of the product, like the FFA does However the product is in the foreground and it looks exactly the fucking same. And thats the part people that has turned off fans Suncorp is a magnificent rectangular venue. It would be a shame if it was lost to our game Hypothetically if Brisbane Roar played out of a small 20k stadium in a good location for fans it would be a huge benefit not only to themselves but the league as a whole. Sorry but I just dont get this point A 15k rectangular venue can cost up to $200m. I imagine a 20k+ venue could be pushing $300m. This is a real cost. The windfall of small boutique venues that look good on TV is largely speculative Sport has already been in this country for a long time. Aside from new developments the existing population bases already has optimal transportation systems and networks. Its hard to imagine there is prime and accessible real estate waiting to be used. And these venues have been built with all sports in mind, not just ours Our choices are to use existing venues as is or to upgrade them. We also need to be looking at our maximum capacity instead of minimum. Not just today, but also 10 or 20 years from now, and with P/R in mind To me, this is the biggest non issue going around at the moment. In any season teams are going to have games at 20% capacity against small teams, but also close to full for their blockbusters. The range for big teams could be 15k - 40k. And ideally this would take place in the same venue The solution, if there is a problem, is to close off stands or offer free tickets Talking about the Roar specifically, the main issue is the fees, not capacities or aesthetics during broadcasts. Suncorp is insanely expensive. To put it in perspective, when BR has hosted grand finals in the past it has cost the FFA $750k to rent the stadium. When SFC has hosted grand finals at Allianz, it has cost the FFA $150k to rent. Sure, Suncorp holds more, but only another 7k more people than Allianz. BR have to deal with those exorbitant fees all season. Not only are they using a stadium that is way too big, they also have to pay through the nose for it. They are losing money every time they host a game.
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robstazzz
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+x+x+xThe problem is you are looking in the background to gauge the appeal of the product, like the FFA does However the product is in the foreground and it looks exactly the fucking same. And thats the part people that has turned off fans Suncorp is a magnificent rectangular venue. It would be a shame if it was lost to our game Hypothetically if Brisbane Roar played out of a small 20k stadium in a good location for fans it would be a huge benefit not only to themselves but the league as a whole. Sorry but I just dont get this point A 15k rectangular venue can cost up to $200m. I imagine a 20k+ venue could be pushing $300m. This is a real cost. The windfall of small boutique venues that look good on TV is largely speculative Sport has already been in this country for a long time. Aside from new developments the existing population bases already has optimal transportation systems and networks. Its hard to imagine there is prime and accessible real estate waiting to be used. And these venues have been built with all sports in mind, not just ours Our choices are to use existing venues as is or to upgrade them. We also need to be looking at our maximum capacity instead of minimum. Not just today, but also 10 or 20 years from now, and with P/R in mind To me, this is the biggest non issue going around at the moment. In any season teams are going to have games at 20% capacity against small teams, but also close to full for their blockbusters. The range for big teams could be 15k - 40k. And ideally this would take place in the same venue The solution, if there is a problem, is to close off stands or offer free tickets What do you mean you don't understand that point? I was saying hypothetically it would be great if possible, I wasn't saying it'll happen because as you say it just isn't possible without a billionaire wanting to do it with his/her own money. So yeh basically I was just saying that Suncorp stadium wouldn't be lost to football at all because international games would still be played there, along with finals football.
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WSW v City - 10k
WP v Roar - 5k
AUFC v Victory - 7k
Glory v SFC - 7k
CCM v WU - 4k
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Clarency
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The game at Dolphin stadium was absolutely fantastic. The noise from the crowd was great, the post match interviews confirmed the atmosphere was fantastic. The more games at smaller venues opposed to the McStadiums that plague the Aleague the better.
And what's more is that small facilities aren't expensive to build:
5k seating capacity minimum for clubs to enter B-league.
10k seating capacity minimum for clubs to be eligible for promotion to A-league.
All of a sudden teams now have a more affordable avenue to create their own stadiums and will reap the profits of their investments.
One can only hope.
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bettega
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anyone know how our averages are tracking year to date?
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thekingmb
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WSW v City - 13k
WP v Roar - 5.5k
AUFC v Victory - 11k
Glory v SFC - 10.5k
CCM v WU - 5k
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Gyfox
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+xanyone know how our averages are tracking year to date? After 29 games last season the average was 12,140. This season it is 11,506.
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bettega
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+x+xanyone know how our averages are tracking year to date? After 29 games last season the average was 12,140. This season it is 11,506. ok, thanks, that's actually better than I was expecting
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Clarency
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+x+x+xThe problem is you are looking in the background to gauge the appeal of the product, like the FFA does However the product is in the foreground and it looks exactly the fucking same. And thats the part people that has turned off fans Suncorp is a magnificent rectangular venue. It would be a shame if it was lost to our game Hypothetically if Brisbane Roar played out of a small 20k stadium in a good location for fans it would be a huge benefit not only to themselves but the league as a whole. Sorry but I just dont get this point ...... The solution, if there is a problem, is to close off stands or offer free tickets This is the correct solution, and it's being used very successfully in the MLS. SeattleSounders
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+x and the AFL flogs on SEN were bagging it saying the NBL got 17,000 in Sydney yesterday as well. any excuse to bag football. Thanks new ffa...
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+xthat's right, it was a record NBL crowd, still, pretty good effort for an indoor sport I actually think its heartening that NBL/Australian basketball has turned a corner. It proves that no matter how bad things get for us we can always come back from it. We just need to start developing some higher class footballers again.
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robstazzz
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+xanyone know how our averages are tracking year to date? These are the averages club by club. 1. Melbourne Victory - 21,658 2. Western Sydney Wanderers - 19,942 3. Sydney FC - 13,055 4. Brisbane Roar - 11,123 5. Adelaide United - 9,165 6. Perth Glory - 8,988 7. Newcastle Jets - 8,468 8. Central Coast Mariners - 7,341 9. Wellington Pheonix - 7,154 10. Melbourne City - 6,462 11. Western United - 5,851
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+x+xanyone know how our averages are tracking year to date? These are the averages club by club. 1. Melbourne Victory - 21,658 2. Western Sydney Wanderers - 19,942 3. Sydney FC - 13,055 4. Brisbane Roar - 11,123 5. Adelaide United - 9,165 6. Perth Glory - 8,988 7. Newcastle Jets - 8,468 8. Central Coast Mariners - 7,341 9. Wellington Pheonix - 7,154 10. Melbourne City - 6,462 11. Western United - 5,851 City 😅
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robstazzz
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Round 7 predictions
Western Sydney Wanders v Melbourne City - 11,500
Wellington Pheonix v Brisbane Roar - 6,700
Adelaide United v Melbourne Victory - 14,100
Perth Glory v Sydney FC - 11,100
Central Coast Mariners v Western United - 4,900
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TheRealFootballSupporter
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WSW v City - 14.5k
Nix v Roar - 6k
Adelaide v Victory - 14.5k
Perth v Sydney - 11k
CCM v WU - 5k
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Gyfox
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+x+xanyone know how our averages are tracking year to date? 1. Melbourne Victory - 21,658 23,4472. Western Sydney Wanderers - 19,942 7,7633. Sydney FC - 13,055 24,8354. Brisbane Roar - 11,123 13,3045. Adelaide United - 9,165 8,9096. Perth Glory - 8,988 10,0237. Newcastle Jets - 8,468 11,6158. Central Coast Mariners - 7,341 7,1919. Wellington Pheonix - 7,154 6,04310. Melbourne City - 6,462 6,127 I've added in bold the averages after Round 6 last season. 5 clubs averages are up this season and 5 are down. It takes about a third of a season or more for the averages to be compared season to season because of the changes to fixturing.
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Clarency
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+x+x+xanyone know how our averages are tracking year to date? 1. Melbourne Victory - 21,658 23,4472. Western Sydney Wanderers - 19,942 7,7633. Sydney FC - 13,055 24,8354. Brisbane Roar - 11,123 13,3045. Adelaide United - 9,165 8,9096. Perth Glory - 8,988 10,0237. Newcastle Jets - 8,468 11,6158. Central Coast Mariners - 7,341 7,1919. Wellington Pheonix - 7,154 6,04310. Melbourne City - 6,462 6,127 I've added in bold the averages after Round 6 last season. 5 clubs averages are up this season and 5 are down. It takes about a third of a season or more for the averages to be compared season to season because of the changes to fixturing. That's great. Put's into perspective that it's not all doom and gloom, and if anything the future looks good. Sydney FC will eventually move into their new stadium which will see their average rise. Macarthur will soon enter which will majorly increase the number of derby matches that should see higher than average attendences.
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Essentially its 2 teams up, 3 teams down | 2019 | 2018 | | | 1. Melbourne Victory | 21,658 | 23,447 | 92% | | 2. Western Sydney Wanderers | 19,942 | 7,763 | 257% | | 3. Sydney FC | 13,055 | 24,835 | 53% | | 4. Brisbane Roar | 11,123 | 13,304 | 84% | | 5. Adelaide United | 9,165 | 8,909 | 103% | | 6. Perth Glory | 8,988 | 10,023 | 90% | | 7. Newcastle Jets | 8,468 | 11,615 | 73% | | 8. Central Coast Mariners | 7,341 | 7,191 | 102% | | 9. Wellington Pheonix | 7,154 | 6,043 | 118% | | 10. Melbourne City | 6,462 | 6,127 | 105% | | 113,356 | 119,257 | 95% | Dont forget, last season was the 5th consecutive drop. Also this season was stacked with epic encounters in the early rounds
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bettega
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+xEssentially its 2 teams up, 3 teams down | 2019 | 2018 | | | 1. Melbourne Victory | 21,658 | 23,447 | 92% | | 2. Western Sydney Wanderers | 19,942 | 7,763 | 257% | | 3. Sydney FC | 13,055 | 24,835 | 53% | | 4. Brisbane Roar | 11,123 | 13,304 | 84% | | 5. Adelaide United | 9,165 | 8,909 | 103% | | 6. Perth Glory | 8,988 | 10,023 | 90% | | 7. Newcastle Jets | 8,468 | 11,615 | 73% | | 8. Central Coast Mariners | 7,341 | 7,191 | 102% | | 9. Wellington Pheonix | 7,154 | 6,043 | 118% | | 10. Melbourne City | 6,462 | 6,127 | 105% | | 113,356 | 119,257 | 95% | Dont forget, last season was the 5th consecutive drop. Also this season was stacked with epic encounters in the early rounds Every season is stacked with big encounters in the early rounds.
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bluebird
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+x+xEssentially its 2 teams up, 3 teams down | 2019 | 2018 | | | 1. Melbourne Victory | 21,658 | 23,447 | 92% | | 2. Western Sydney Wanderers | 19,942 | 7,763 | 257% | | 3. Sydney FC | 13,055 | 24,835 | 53% | | 4. Brisbane Roar | 11,123 | 13,304 | 84% | | 5. Adelaide United | 9,165 | 8,909 | 103% | | 6. Perth Glory | 8,988 | 10,023 | 90% | | 7. Newcastle Jets | 8,468 | 11,615 | 73% | | 8. Central Coast Mariners | 7,341 | 7,191 | 102% | | 9. Wellington Pheonix | 7,154 | 6,043 | 118% | | 10. Melbourne City | 6,462 | 6,127 | 105% | | 113,356 | 119,257 | 95% | Dont forget, last season was the 5th consecutive drop. Also this season was stacked with epic encounters in the early rounds Every season is stacked with big encounters in the early rounds. More so this season In other seasons teams played each other 3 times. This season they play twice, and then the big encounters. This should boost the averages for the existing teams Despite this fans still seem to be turning away from the game and deciding to only watch it on Kayo
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WSW VS City 15K
Nix VS Roar 5K
Adelaide VS Victory 12K
Glory VS SFC 8K
CCM VS WU 5K
JETS BYE
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Waz
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Roar v Victory 2,139
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+xRoar v Victory 2,139 (WL) what's the expectations for the w league games?
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+xRoar v Victory 2,139 (WL) 2K for a midweek standalone W-League game is an amazing effort imo.
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WSW v City - 12,000
Nix v Roar - 6,000
AU v Victory - 12,500
PG v SFC - 9,000
CCM v WU - 5,500
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Waz
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12,078 WSW v City
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Gyfox
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It's exactly 5,000 more than attended the last time Wanderers played City at home.
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+xIt's exactly 5,000 more than attended the last time Wanderers played City at home. At Bankwest? Their crowds are plummeting this season. What's next, 10k?
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+xIt's exactly 5,000 more than attended the last time Wanderers played City at home. ooooff thats gotta hurt libel R U OK?
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