I'd only agree with this if we opened the stadium, but we didn't. 

Parramatta Eels have already played half a season there, and we played Leeds United there and got something like 24k.

17k isn't amazing or anything to talk up, but at the same time I wouldn't call it shit, especially when you consider the weather and expensive tickets which are factors that need to be considered. 

Apart from the derby I don't think we'll crack 20k for a game this season, unless we're killing it and playing good football. 

Clearly you know nothing about Australian football if you think we should be selling out 30k capacity stadiums.

You remind me so much of people like Steven Lowy and David Gallop who just expect sold out stadiums, yet give no valid reason why they expect this to happen. And at the same time they'd ignore every valid reason why crowds are down. 

I have given reasons. Refer my earlier posts.

But hey, if you're happy with only 17k in the circumstances...

I truly am because I'm a realist. With all the negativity of the past few years I'm very happy with all 3 crowds so far, because it's a solid base to build on without idiots like Gallop and co killing the game with one stupid decision after another. 

What, like the 40k the first melbourne derby got just last season, and the what, 33k it got this season under the new regime?

Given the damage done to confidence over the past couple of years, it’s hardly surprising.

There is going to be significant challenges this year which no one should be shocked by. It certainly won’t be easy.

LOL, it was just last season that 40k.

Any "damage to confidence" must have happened after the new regime took over...

You would be doing me a favour if you ban me.

Not many people go to the game based on the board or ownership

The model is up the shit and nothing has been done to change it. From a footballing point of view we have an unbalanced season flooded with big games, less overall games per team, a bye, still a top 6 for some reason, not to mention a salary cap designed to keep our biggest teams small

I watched the second half of AU v SFC and the defending was appalling. And when the A League is good, it is ruined by VAR. It feels like referees arent even making calls anymore because they have the technology to fall back on

The clearest message of "metrics first, football last" is delaying the season start for a weekend where AFL / NRL fans are available (if they want), but players are on international duty

This isn't a confidence issue. Serve up shit, watch the hardened fans continue to turn their back until nobody is left

8,300 in Wellington today 

Every crowd this weekend has been poor really

9829 in Perth

76K overall - a lot of rounds significantly less than that.

The still when the header was made by Brisbane shows how far behind the line the linesman was. Very poor

I thought the nix crowd exceeded expectations

I think Perth and Adelaide really need to lift their attendances 

You are completely wrong.

The standard of play is irrelevant. Huge crowds attend non competitive matches. A thrilling 4-3 match between two woefully low standard teams playing a low standard match will draw a crowd for those teams the following week.

Decent numbers to build on. Let’s hope the clubs do more to keep investing. 

Cant win, teams attack and the defending is poor, teams defend and the attacking is poor.

Maybe that one was 'as expected' actually in hindsight. But this should be a huge deal for them, return of Rudan and co, first game of the season against a new club - realistically they'll struggle to get a better crowd than that all season considering the circumstances around this game. I think they should aiming to be cracking 10k for that personally with the rivalry this game was meant to have. I think the FFA were trying to manufacture a tension between the two clubs by putting this Round 1.

I agree. Perth have ALWAYS been underwhelming for me crowd wise I think they don't do enough in big games, maybe it is the lack of derby or rivalry that does it but I just think Perth should be aiming higher - only beaten Adelaide's crowd averages 3/14 seasons and it is a bigger city.

Adelaide I think we are a club where we will be able to get the crowds back on track, good things are happening at the club to me it seems and I think we should be able to lift our attendances to what they once were.

Except we dont see evidence of this

Adelaide defence was breached so many times leaving a replica of the red card incident time and time again. There is a difference between good attack and poor defence that isnt as black and white as you are making it out to be

Not round 1 and round 2 last year

That's right Mr bluebird, everything stinks..

WSW fans are the most fair weathered in the comp. they are bloody pathetic. even the RBB was no more than half full, which is a disgrace when you factor in the excitement of the new stadium and the opening of the first safe standing section in HAL history. maybe they'll return if they win a few games, but I'm not expecting it (excluding the derby of course). they'll be back to drawing their regular shitty 10,000 crowds by Xmas. 


i know there is a lot of negativity around WU, but surely you're taking the piss? there will be a novelty factor about their first home game, plus $20 GA tix, plus a first up win, and I can see them coming close to matching City. I would have headed down myself to take a look if Victory were playing away this week.  

MV v WSW - 19k
WU v PG - 7k
CCM v Jets - 9k
City v AU - 7.5
Smurfs v Nix - 11k

So is it Waz or Libel?

Au v SFC 9,903
WS v CC 17,091
MV v MC 33,523
WP v WU 8,254
PG v BR 9,829 

2019-20 Total 78,600
2019-20 Ave 15,720
2018-19 Total 84,761
2018-19 Ave: 16,952
Difference: -6,691 (-7.27%)

I didn't see what happened, but I think we are big enough and ugly enough to accommodate both.

Actually, we're not really all that big, not sure if banning someone like Libel is the right thing to do.

He has been on this forum for a very long time, we know where he is coming from, it's not as if it's a great surprise, and for the most part, his posts are pretty harmless.

100%, also it not like Waz or many of the other posters are above trolling. If you don’t want to see someone’s posts just block them, Decentric can explain how if you pm him