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Munrubenmuz - 24 Nov 2021 4:22 PM
ErogenousZone - 24 Nov 2021 1:20 PM

He's taking the piss mate.

I'm serious. It's a legit conspiracy. 

The woman on that video refrenced it when she talked about tunnels, I had people share the post in whatsapp messages to a group chat I am in.
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Munrubenmuz - 24 Nov 2021 4:22 PM
ErogenousZone - 24 Nov 2021 1:20 PM

He's taking the piss mate.

I'm aware. :hehe:  I just thought it was a weird thing to read, anywhere.  :hehe:
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tsf - 24 Nov 2021 4:58 PM
Munrubenmuz - 24 Nov 2021 4:22 PM

I'm serious. It's a legit conspiracy. 

The woman on that video refrenced it when she talked about tunnels, I had people share the post in whatsapp messages to a group chat I am in.

It's a strange world.  :hehe::laugh::hehe::laugh:
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ErogenousZone - 24 Nov 2021 4:58 PM
Munrubenmuz - 24 Nov 2021 4:22 PM

I'm aware. :hehe:  I just thought it was a weird thing to read, anywhere.  :hehe:

I wasn't. These people are 100% going around saying it. 
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tsf - 24 Nov 2021 4:59 PM
ErogenousZone - 24 Nov 2021 4:58 PM

I wasn't. These people are 100% going around saying it. 

QAnon nutters and anti-vaxxers...same thing

remember pizzagate?  this is more of the same and now they're connecting it to crazy vaccine microchip theories and 5G networks

their supreme leader has been subpoenaed by the Jan 6 committee so they're on borrowed time now

the last vestiges and dying embers of Trumpism 
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500 per cent increase in deaths of FIFA players in 2021
500% increase in deaths FIFA players this year.
https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1460311509213536265.html
The New Normal.



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dirkvanadidas - 25 Nov 2021 4:07 AM
500 per cent increase in deaths of FIFA players in 2021
500% increase in deaths FIFA players this year.
https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1460311509213536265.html
The New Normal.


Once again posting links leading with pictures of Christian Eriksen (wasn't vaccinated) and Sergio Aguero (had a heart operation at 15 and blacked out in a game at in 2017).

You're a joke. 

(VAR) IS NAVY BLUE

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sydneyfc1987 - 25 Nov 2021 7:57 AM
dirkvanadidas - 25 Nov 2021 4:07 AM

Once again posting links leading with pictures of Christian Eriksen (wasn't vaccinated) and Sergio Aguero (had a heart operation at 15 and blacked out in a game at in 2017).

You're a joke. 

how do these people even get dressed and go about their day in a safe manner by themselves
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dirkvanadidas - 25 Nov 2021 4:07 AM
500 per cent increase in deaths of FIFA players in 2021
500% increase in deaths FIFA players this year.
https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1460311509213536265.html
The New Normal.


Embarassing.


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Chickens coming home to roost.

https://www.smh.com.au/national/nsw/more-than-80-guests-at-byron-bay-hostel-in-lockdown-after-covid-19-case-20211125-p59bxw.html



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dirkvanadidas - 25 Nov 2021 4:07 AM
500 per cent increase in deaths of FIFA players in 2021
500% increase in deaths FIFA players this year.
https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1460311509213536265.html
The New Normal.


footballer vax deaths needs to be added to this diagram
https://www.irishtimes.com/polopoly_fs/1.4532919!/image/image.jpg_gen/derivatives/landscape_620/image.jpg
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sydneyfc1987 - 25 Nov 2021 7:57 AM
dirkvanadidas - 25 Nov 2021 4:07 AM

Once again posting links leading with pictures of Christian Eriksen (wasn't vaccinated) and Sergio Aguero (had a heart operation at 15 and blacked out in a game at in 2017).

You're a joke. 

This. I just skimmed the page, but did they uncover what percentage of people were vaccinated? 
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mcjules - 23 Nov 2021 9:59 AM
Well we're open. How long until you guys over east start infecting us? ;)

I'm predicting a week.

Was busy yesterday but the answer was 1 day :laugh:

Insert Gertjan Verbeek gifs here

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mcjules - 23 Nov 2021 9:59 AM

Was busy yesterday but the answer was 1 day :laugh:

:laugh:
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great news for parents!!!

European drug regulator EMA approves Pfizer's covid vaccine for injection in kids ages 5-11.

TGA approval should be imminent!!!
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So this new variant is fucked.

Evolved in Africa as predicted amongst the vast masses of unvaccinated people.

Europe back into lockdown, travel bans etc. We're never coming out of this fucking restrictions.





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Munrubenmuz - 27 Nov 2021 7:37 AM
So this new variant is fucked.

Evolved in Africa as predicted amongst the vast masses of unvaccinated people.

Europe back into lockdown, travel bans etc. We're never coming out of this fucking restrictions.



yep

this is the true danger of the unvaccinated now coming to the fore

urgent measures are now required to ensure we get to 100% fully vaccinated ASAP

time for the government to pull out all the stops
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not just that and as we know, the african one those infected had been moving around weeks before authorities finally find out.
So how many have travelled here there everywhere.

IMO we should be making sure pronto of current OS arrivals even though vaxxed.
To be sure to be sure, security on every single person intending coming to Oz needs to be double checked where they were couple weeks prior to flying.


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LFC. - 27 Nov 2021 2:45 PM
not just that and as we know, the african one those infected had been moving around weeks before authorities finally find out.
So how many have travelled here there everywhere.

IMO we should be making sure pronto of current OS arrivals even though vaxxed.
To be sure to be sure, security on every single person intending coming to Oz needs to be double checked where they were couple weeks prior to flying.

I do wonder what the protocol would be for getting into the country when things open up. 

- Double vaxxed
- Test before boarding
- Test after boarding
- Test on day six of arrival? 

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we are not going to be able to stop this variant getting into the country forever

until we reach 100% vaccination rates, we must return to closing borders to international arrivals

between now and when we open up, tougher measures need to be take to deal with the vaccine hesitant and remaining anti-vaxxers
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cesspit - 27 Nov 2021 4:53 PM
we are not going to be able to stop this variant getting into the country forever

until we reach 100% vaccination rates, we must return to closing borders to international arrivals

between now and when we open up, tougher measures need to be take to deal with the vaccine hesitant and remaining anti-vaxxers

We'll never get to 100% short of tying the unvaxxed down and that ain't happening.

Disagree with closing the borders. Doing a bit more reading today they're saying the new variant is more transmissable but the symptoms are milder.


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Munrubenmuz - 27 Nov 2021 8:11 PM
cesspit - 27 Nov 2021 4:53 PM

We'll never get to 100% short of tying the unvaxxed down and that ain't happening.

Disagree with closing the borders. Doing a bit more reading today they're saying the new variant is more transmissable but the symptoms are milder.

EU countries are making it mandatory with no exceptions

why cant Australia?
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cesspit - 27 Nov 2021 8:28 PM
Munrubenmuz - 27 Nov 2021 8:11 PM

EU countries are making it mandatory with no exceptions

why cant Australia?

There are 2 ways to make this decision.

As a herd-animal, "Such and such a country is doing it, so why can't we". That is herd mentality.

As a person that reviews the science, and is open to his assumptions being challenged by new data. For example, here a journal pre-print from doctors at the CDC. Their summary paragraph states:

https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2021.11.12.21265796v1.full-text

“In this investigation, we found no statistically significant difference in transmission potential between vaccinated persons and persons who were not fully vaccinated. Therefore, our findings indicate that prevention and mitigation measures should be applied without regard to vaccination status for persons in high-risk settings or those with significant exposures."

Here's an article in the Lancet:

https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lancet/article/PIIS0140-6736(21)02243-1/fulltext#coronavirus-linkback-header

In the above Lancet article, Dr Günter Kampf said: "… the term pandemic of the unvaccinated, … this view is far too simple. … There is increasing evidence that vaccinated individuals continue to have a relevant role in transmission. … It is therefore wrong and dangerous to speak of a pandemic of the unvaccinated."

Here’s another article, this time from the Harvard School of Public Health, the article titled “Increases in COVID-19 are unrelated to levels of vaccination across 68 countries and 2947 counties in the United States”

Dr S. V. Subramanian wrote: “At the country-level, there appears to be no discernable relationship between percentage of population fully vaccinated and new COVID-19 cases in the last 7 days (Fig. 1). In fact, the trend line suggests a marginally positive association such that countries with higher percentage of population fully vaccinated have higher COVID-19 cases per 1 million people.”

https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s10654-021-00808-7

And yet, in spite of medical scientific argument, there is a majority of people in society whose method of decision making is, "If they can do it, why can't we".

It is extremely rare to find people who base their decisions entirely on facts and data. Most people make decisions based on emotions - and the greatest emotion is the fear of not being among the majority.

For most people, if the majority is heading in one direction, for those types of people, no amount of data and evidence will turn them away from following the majority. To them, the "if they're doing it, why can't we" is so ingrained that it is virtually impossible to persuade them otherwise.

In any group of people, there will be people whose reasoning says, "If those other people do it, why can't we?" Notice this mantra, "If NSW and New Zealand can do it, why can't we?"

Herd mentality.

And if you explain this to someone who actually thinks, reasons and speaks like that -- and does not know how else to frame their reasoning - they will likely get furious, because they feel it is an insult to be accused of herd-thinking. Yet, logically, the statement - "If they can do it, why can't we?" -- is the essence of how to spot a herd-thinker.

Why can't you just review the above evidence, and make a decision based on scientific data, not just where the crowd is taking you?





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UK chief medical officer spoke yesterday to say new variant less of concern at the moment than delta

Calm your farm folks

Europe is funding the war not Chelsea football club

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johnsmith - 27 Nov 2021 10:47 PM
cesspit - 27 Nov 2021 8:28 PM

There are 2 ways to make this decision.

As a herd-animal, "Such and such a country is doing it, so why can't we". That is herd mentality.

As a person that reviews the science, and is open to his assumptions being challenged by new data. For example, here a journal pre-print from doctors at the CDC. Their summary paragraph states:

https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2021.11.12.21265796v1.full-text

“In this investigation, we found no statistically significant difference in transmission potential between vaccinated persons and persons who were not fully vaccinated. Therefore, our findings indicate that prevention and mitigation measures should be applied without regard to vaccination status for persons in high-risk settings or those with significant exposures."

Here's an article in the Lancet:

https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lancet/article/PIIS0140-6736(21)02243-1/fulltext#coronavirus-linkback-header

In the above Lancet article, Dr Günter Kampf said: "… the term pandemic of the unvaccinated, … this view is far too simple. … There is increasing evidence that vaccinated individuals continue to have a relevant role in transmission. … It is therefore wrong and dangerous to speak of a pandemic of the unvaccinated."

Here’s another article, this time from the Harvard School of Public Health, the article titled “Increases in COVID-19 are unrelated to levels of vaccination across 68 countries and 2947 counties in the United States”

Dr S. V. Subramanian wrote: “At the country-level, there appears to be no discernable relationship between percentage of population fully vaccinated and new COVID-19 cases in the last 7 days (Fig. 1). In fact, the trend line suggests a marginally positive association such that countries with higher percentage of population fully vaccinated have higher COVID-19 cases per 1 million people.”

https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s10654-021-00808-7

And yet, in spite of medical scientific argument, there is a majority of people in society whose method of decision making is, "If they can do it, why can't we".

It is extremely rare to find people who base their decisions entirely on facts and data. Most people make decisions based on emotions - and the greatest emotion is the fear of not being among the majority.

For most people, if the majority is heading in one direction, for those types of people, no amount of data and evidence will turn them away from following the majority. To them, the "if they're doing it, why can't we" is so ingrained that it is virtually impossible to persuade them otherwise.

In any group of people, there will be people whose reasoning says, "If those other people do it, why can't we?" Notice this mantra, "If NSW and New Zealand can do it, why can't we?"

Herd mentality.

And if you explain this to someone who actually thinks, reasons and speaks like that -- and does not know how else to frame their reasoning - they will likely get furious, because they feel it is an insult to be accused of herd-thinking. Yet, logically, the statement - "If they can do it, why can't we?" -- is the essence of how to spot a herd-thinker.

Why can't you just review the above evidence, and make a decision based on scientific data, not just where the crowd is taking you?





bro what's with all the different sized fonts?
it makes you look like a crazy :crazy:
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johnsmith - 27 Nov 2021 10:47 PM

bro what's with all the different sized fonts?
it makes you look like a crazy :crazy:

Bro, it's just that I get passionate when writing on things that matter to me. Maybe there's Mediterranean blood in me.
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In the UK double and triple jabbed will be required to isolate 14 days if positive for the moronic variant, same as the unjabbed

Europe is funding the war not Chelsea football club

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cesspit - 27 Nov 2021 8:28 PM
Munrubenmuz - 27 Nov 2021 8:11 PM

EU countries are making it mandatory with no exceptions

why cant Australia?

Just because the EU are making it mandatory, doesn't mean we have to.

First, there may be people with medical reasons for not getting the vaccination.

Second, we already have high vaccination rates. What is herd immunity? It's definitely not 100%.

Third, even with 100% vaccinations, you still get breakthrough cases and there are also variants.
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dirkvanadidas - 28 Nov 2021 6:42 AM
 the moronic variant

That's what you've got right?

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New York has declared a state of emergency for the new variant

this is the big one folks
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