Agree with all those points. I'm also not a fan with the Police being given these additional powers. Hindsight is wonderful but that is no excuse or justification. You can use that as an excuse for anything. The Government knows and sees the trends and have failed to ramp up when necessary. Not pushing for more vaccinations earlier is also frustrating as we basically had a 1.5 year advantage and now we're scrambling. Jury is still out but Melbourne's numbers now (with Delta) seem better contained as they are all in isolation at the time (time will tell). 

Also, the reason why people may have reacted in a certain way is because of this constant State v State narrative being pushed. When you're first response is "Melbourne X" or "Sydney Y", you're creating that divide again. 

yes agree Burztur on the State v State thing and we citizens are stupid reacting as such because its started by our useless so called leaders covering themselves in some glory over their mess, deflection as some say.
You can't rate any of them TBH......
On a car forum I'm in I even seen some gloating how their Health person is better looking than the other, like WTF how petty people have become.

Mentioning hindsight is all can say though, for I'm not up front in their shoes getting all the info and being able to deal with it hands on - were dealing with the after effects like all of us do.
Can't do anything but comply whats being asked and happy that we are but obviously a % are not as community infections keep on the up.

Just as many are battling with, I have a mother inlaw in aged care lockdown who hardly speaks a word of english, a wife going awol trying to help her, my olds 88/92yrs living alone needing visit I can't, this that its a melting pot and we have these selfish fucktards who DGAF and feeling victimised because the eastern suburbs people arn't singled out like they are.
FFS some humans are just ignoramouse idiots let alone our backward thinking leaders.

Whilst I couldn't agree more re. the media you are kind of engaging in the same double standard by decrying the treatment of the Andrews government in previous instances and then going on the full offensive re. NSW response. 

It's pretty clear by now that we are dealing with a far more infectious variant of the virus and that contact tracing is no longer as effective if not capable of getting us to zero.

Perhaps Gladys should of moved to lock down immediately. Hindsight is a beautiful thing.

16 June infection. 25 June lockdown. 9 days not fast enough? It took Victoria 14 days to identify their initial case and much longer to realise they had 2 separate outbreaks but people arent saying they were too slow

Its ludicrous to suggest response teams have a week to either announce the toughest restrictions possible or risk over 200 cases a day. Thats the kind of pressure that leads to mistakes. When you have a look at all the lockdowns and what they actually accomplished, stats show responses teams have gone into lockdown too quickly instead of not fast enough

Australia has been sold the concept of a snap lockdown, despite failing for Victoria twice in 5 weeks (2 extensions required plus ongoing restrictions), and now the expectation from the public is snap lockdown or fail. The fact is NSW did go into a lockdown within similar timeframes to other states and it was wide enough to contain the infection (the virus doesnt recognise jurisdiction and Victoria is a much smaller state)

This virus doesn't work based on popular opinion

So according to the radio they're thinking of sending the army in to help compliance with lockdown in Sydney.

Not to administer vaccines but to make sure the lockdown is abided by.

What the fuck is wrong with these clowns?

If they have to be there then at least have them jabbing people at the same time.

FFS. Put me in charge.

 Scomo admitted that the army can't do all that. For months andrews got attacked for it . 

Serious question, if Government was able to secure supply of other vaccines (like Sputnik) would you take it?
Yes for me.

Maybe the Russian one not the Chinese one. The TGA would have to approve it though.

Should've asked him if he wears a fireproof race-suit and a crash helmet whenever he hops in his car?

Just to stay safe, you know...

I wear a black bandanna I bought years ago, tied around my face. It's funny to think that in July 2019 if I walked into a store looking like that, people would be on edge and I'd be getting eyed off by security. But in July 2021, I look like a responsible citizen. 

Sending in the army? Imagine if that was Victoria. 

Interestingly, I looked up Sky News on YouTube when the NSW lockdowns were first announced to see how they were treating Gladys vs how they treated Dan last year but their regular panellists were savaging her. Coach Cottager in particular and (from what I've seen) continues to do so.

Does anybody actually like their state premier?

I'm trying to think of the last state premier anywhere in Australia that was somewhat popular, beyond having people vote for them at election time...

Mark McGowan won 55 seats to 2 or something and they called the election 45 minutes after polls closed. Even Putin wouldnt rig and election with those results as it would appear suss.

Is he generally liked though, or is voting for him more a case of "Yuck...I guess I'll vote for the Giant Douche over the Turd Sandwich"?

Yeah I dunno, but based off that you'd think people are pretty happy with him.
But yeah, politics is usually voting against who you hate, not for who you like

Yes imagine hiring a consultancy to do what the government already did every year with administering the flu vaccine. It's beyond a joke. 

I believe the Russian government allowed their vaccine data to be peer reviewed and has shown to be an effective vaccine. So yes, if it were approved by the TGA I would. 

The Chinese vaccines have not shared this data or been fully transparent from my understanding and from the little we know that Sinovac isn't working very well against Delta or the Brazilian variant anyway. So fuck that.

Apparently we have over 3m of extra AZ supply. So its not a general supply issue.

Considering Western Australians had a gutful of the lnp and Clive they had every right to call the election early. 

Then why the damn hold up. This roll-out has been botched beyond belief 

For months you had to be over 60 to be eligible for AZ. Now, they've opened it up for anyone who wants the shot but nobody wants it. 

Given the 12 week gap between shots (means you're eating 13-14 weeks before being fully protected) andthe government flip-flopping between not recommending it for younger people and now recommending it I'm not surprised the vast majority of under 60s are waiting for Pfizer. 

3 million of something no one wants.

I was sent an update from a mate today from Qld.

To date they've given out
761 539 shots of Pfizer
125 796 of AZ

Just remember kiddies 'it's not a race'.

Israel has just started third round shots due to the now evident decreased effectiveness of the first two against the Delta Variant as they are coming up to 2,000 cases per day & 60% of the population vaccinated.   Something for Australia to note for the future.   

Government messaging and roll-out on AZ has been terrible. Can't be denied. We should have also secured the same amount of Pfizer for people but now it's become a scarce resource leading to people waiting. We're already 2 months behind and people want to wait 3 more months... The 12 week wait between shots for AZ doesn't help too but that could have been pushed out earlier.

Feds already onto this. Ordered 65m doses of booster Pfizer shots for next year. Wouldn't surprise me if we use a mixture in future. AZ + Pfizer or Moderna. That seems to be more effective (from the studies so far). 

That's due to the scare tactics.  And the government not coming out and stating it was an isolated cases .  Instead of assurring  the populace they did nothing.    

Yep..I'm eligible for the covid jabs now due to my asthma but I'm not getting it yet due to others needing it more than I do. 

Don't do that. I've had the flu with asthma and it nearly killed me. Lost 8kgs and spent 4 weeks on the couch (hospitalised twice) being barely able to move. I got the AZ as soon as I could because from all reports this COVID is worse than the flu and particularly bad for asthmatics.  Go down and get your jab. There's plenty about and you're not taking it from anyone more 'needy' than you,.

They are finding Pfizer effectiveness against delta is 64% in Israel due to declining effectiveness of vaccine, which they estimate drops about 6% every 2 months. They expect 3rd shot to bring it back up to the 90's.