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+x+xGuardian Essential poll: majority of Australians support vaccine mandates
A majority of Australians would be comfortable with venues requiring patrons to be vaccinated as a condition of entry, and for jabs to be mandatory in a range of employment and leisure settings, according to the latest Guardian Essential poll.
The new poll shows mandatory vaccinations are supported for Australia’s health and disability care workers (83% and 82% of respondents approve). A further 77% of respondents think vaccines should be compulsory for airline travellers, and 74% think teachers and teacher’s aides should be inoculated before working at schools.
Majorities also support vaccinations as a condition of entry to sporting events (69%) and hospitality and entertainment venues (68%), while 62% agree mandatory jabs should be required for people to return to work at the workplace. Smaller majorities (58%) support mandatory vaccinations for students to attend school and for customers to shop at retail stores after lockdowns end.
Consistent with the inclination among survey respondents in favour of mandatory vaccination, more people (39%) in the sample even believe that vaccinated Covid patients should be prioritised for medical attention over unvaccinated people (34% express disagreement with that view).
A significant minority of respondents, 41%, say states with low or no Covid-19 cases should be allowed to keep their borders closed for as long as they think is necessary – while 37% say they would be comfortable with borders reopening in states with low or no cases but only once 80% of the population aged over 16 is fully vaccinated.
The percentage of respondents in the survey saying they will never be vaccinated is now down to 6%. It has been as high as 16% in some surveys. But views towards easing restrictions for fully vaccinated people also vary.
Just under half of respondents (44%) think restrictions should only be relaxed when everyone has had the opportunity to get vaccinated, while 39% think vaccinated people should be given a leave pass from restrictions immediately, while 17% expresses the view that vaccinated and unvaccinated people should not be treated differently. https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2021/sep/14/guardian-essential-poll-majority-of-australians-support-vaccine-mandatesThere's more in the article. I don't think we will get to 94% vaccinated but anything near 90% would be amazing. I'm quietly confident we'll get to 90%+ of 16+ eventually, especially once restrictions on the unvaccinated come in. Just need the supply.
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yer I can't see getting to 90% at this stage at all....... Time will tell once some restrictions lift and people get out and about again and contending with X business won't let you in, X sport has these new rules. You can't book online unless proof of double jab etcetcetc.... The daily trials and tribulations that impact people will force them into a corner, some will stick to their guns at their own peril. Thats life. Now this is all depending how stiff and not business's/shops/malls move ahead. Here's up to date jab figures.....80% projection from Oct 23 the ACT followed close by NSW, https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/datablog/ng-interactive/2021/sep/15/covid-19-vaccine-rollout-australia-vaccination-rate-progress-how-many-people-vaccinated-percent-tracker-australian-states-number-total-daily-live-data-stats-updates-news-schedule-tracking-chart-percentage-new-cases-today
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+xGuardian Essential poll: majority of Australians support vaccine mandates
A majority of Australians would be comfortable with venues requiring patrons to be vaccinated as a condition of entry, and for jabs to be mandatory in a range of employment and leisure settings, according to the latest Guardian Essential poll.
The new poll shows mandatory vaccinations are supported for Australia’s health and disability care workers (83% and 82% of respondents approve). A further 77% of respondents think vaccines should be compulsory for airline travellers, and 74% think teachers and teacher’s aides should be inoculated before working at schools.
Majorities also support vaccinations as a condition of entry to sporting events (69%) and hospitality and entertainment venues (68%), while 62% agree mandatory jabs should be required for people to return to work at the workplace. Smaller majorities (58%) support mandatory vaccinations for students to attend school and for customers to shop at retail stores after lockdowns end.
Consistent with the inclination among survey respondents in favour of mandatory vaccination, more people (39%) in the sample even believe that vaccinated Covid patients should be prioritised for medical attention over unvaccinated people (34% express disagreement with that view).
A significant minority of respondents, 41%, say states with low or no Covid-19 cases should be allowed to keep their borders closed for as long as they think is necessary – while 37% say they would be comfortable with borders reopening in states with low or no cases but only once 80% of the population aged over 16 is fully vaccinated.
The percentage of respondents in the survey saying they will never be vaccinated is now down to 6%. It has been as high as 16% in some surveys. But views towards easing restrictions for fully vaccinated people also vary.
Just under half of respondents (44%) think restrictions should only be relaxed when everyone has had the opportunity to get vaccinated, while 39% think vaccinated people should be given a leave pass from restrictions immediately, while 17% expresses the view that vaccinated and unvaccinated people should not be treated differently. https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2021/sep/14/guardian-essential-poll-majority-of-australians-support-vaccine-mandatesThere's more in the article. I don't think we will get to 94% vaccinated but anything near 90% would be amazing.
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+x+xGot the first 5̶G̶ Pfizer jab yesterday. Arm still sore but feeling good (Y) I'm getting my second tomorrow. Looking forward to some quality phone reception after. So far, I've resisted buying more Microsoft products. I fear I can only hold out for so long.
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+x+x+xGot the first 5̶G̶ Pfizer jab yesterday. Arm still sore but feeling good (Y) I'm getting my second tomorrow. Looking forward to some quality phone reception after. Stay away from metal objects. At least initially. I was impressed with all the negative pov and spin on AZ, my mobile jumps to 5g lol......
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Interesting article. Seems there is a general consensus in scientific circles that booster shots are not necessary at this stage: https://www.cnbc.com/2021/09/13/covid-booster-shots-data-shows-third-shots-not-appropriate-at-this-time-scientists-conclude.html
An expert review of scientific evidence to date has concluded that Covid-19 vaccine booster shots are not needed at this time for the general public, a group of leading U.S. and international scientists said Monday in the peer-reviewed journal The Lancet.The conclusion by scientists, including two senior Food and Drug Administration officials and the World Health Organization, came as studies continue to show the authorized Covid vaccines in the U.S. remain highly effective against severe disease and hospitalization caused by the fast-spreading delta variant.
While Covid vaccine effectiveness against mild disease may wane over time, protection against severe disease may persist, the scientists said. That’s because the body’s immune system is complex, they said, and has other defenses besides antibodies that may protect someone from getting seriously sick.
“Current evidence does not, therefore, appear to show a need for boosting in the general population, in which efficacy against severe disease remains high,” the scientists wrote, adding the wide distribution of boosters is “not appropriate at this stage in the pandemic.”
Sort of flies In the face of the assertion that the science community is acting at the behest of the"pharmaceutical industrial complex"
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+x+xGot the first 5̶G̶ Pfizer jab yesterday. Arm still sore but feeling good (Y) I'm getting my second tomorrow. Looking forward to some quality phone reception after. Stay away from metal objects. At least initially.
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+xGot the first 5̶G̶ Pfizer jab yesterday. Arm still sore but feeling good (Y) I'm getting my second tomorrow. Looking forward to some quality phone reception after.
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Guardian Essential poll: majority of Australians support vaccine mandates
A majority of Australians would be comfortable with venues requiring patrons to be vaccinated as a condition of entry, and for jabs to be mandatory in a range of employment and leisure settings, according to the latest Guardian Essential poll.
The new poll shows mandatory vaccinations are supported for Australia’s health and disability care workers (83% and 82% of respondents approve). A further 77% of respondents think vaccines should be compulsory for airline travellers, and 74% think teachers and teacher’s aides should be inoculated before working at schools.
Majorities also support vaccinations as a condition of entry to sporting events (69%) and hospitality and entertainment venues (68%), while 62% agree mandatory jabs should be required for people to return to work at the workplace. Smaller majorities (58%) support mandatory vaccinations for students to attend school and for customers to shop at retail stores after lockdowns end.
Consistent with the inclination among survey respondents in favour of mandatory vaccination, more people (39%) in the sample even believe that vaccinated Covid patients should be prioritised for medical attention over unvaccinated people (34% express disagreement with that view).
A significant minority of respondents, 41%, say states with low or no Covid-19 cases should be allowed to keep their borders closed for as long as they think is necessary – while 37% say they would be comfortable with borders reopening in states with low or no cases but only once 80% of the population aged over 16 is fully vaccinated.
The percentage of respondents in the survey saying they will never be vaccinated is now down to 6%. It has been as high as 16% in some surveys. But views towards easing restrictions for fully vaccinated people also vary.
Just under half of respondents (44%) think restrictions should only be relaxed when everyone has had the opportunity to get vaccinated, while 39% think vaccinated people should be given a leave pass from restrictions immediately, while 17% expresses the view that vaccinated and unvaccinated people should not be treated differently. https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2021/sep/14/guardian-essential-poll-majority-of-australians-support-vaccine-mandatesThere's more in the article.
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+xmask wearing may not be enough, mandatory nappies may be next.... Government fears over Covid being spread through fartingA number of UK government ministers have expressed concern over the possibility of coronavirus spreading through flatulence. There is reportedly evidence to suggest the deadly virus could spread through people farting in confined spaces such as a toilet. Tests have shown that Covid-19 can spread through faecal matter however there is no definitive science to say whether flatulence could spread the disease responsible for a global health crisis. One minister, who was not named, told The Telegraph that there is “credible-looking stuff on it”. https://www.bournemouthecho.co.uk/news/national/uk-today/19469537.government-fears-covid-spread-farting/ Old news. Debated by the ABC last year - https://www.abc.net.au/radio/programs/coronacast/no-bare-bottoms-norman-swan-weighs-in/12154256
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Got the first 5̶G̶ Pfizer jab yesterday. Arm still sore but feeling good (Y)
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AJF, seems more appropiate that was a Monty Python skit or Fawlty Towers....... Too funny
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+x+x+xmask wearing may not be enough, mandatory nappies may be next.... Government fears over Covid being spread through fartingA number of UK government ministers have expressed concern over the possibility of coronavirus spreading through flatulence. There is reportedly evidence to suggest the deadly virus could spread through people farting in confined spaces such as a toilet. Tests have shown that Covid-19 can spread through faecal matter however there is no definitive science to say whether flatulence could spread the disease responsible for a global health crisis. One minister, who was not named, told The Telegraph that there is “credible-looking stuff on it”. https://www.bournemouthecho.co.uk/news/national/uk-today/19469537.government-fears-covid-spread-farting/ this is like one of them old British satirical paper stories. As much as the Bournemouth Echo is a bastion of award-winning journalism, a story with zero sources and the word 'reportedly' before evidence, should see this consigned to Viz Comic instead. Quite funny tho you may think its funny now, but you wont be laughing when Dictator Dan gives you a $5K fine for pulling someones finger! 🤣🤣
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+x+x+xmask wearing may not be enough, mandatory nappies may be next.... Government fears over Covid being spread through fartingA number of UK government ministers have expressed concern over the possibility of coronavirus spreading through flatulence. There is reportedly evidence to suggest the deadly virus could spread through people farting in confined spaces such as a toilet. Tests have shown that Covid-19 can spread through faecal matter however there is no definitive science to say whether flatulence could spread the disease responsible for a global health crisis. One minister, who was not named, told The Telegraph that there is “credible-looking stuff on it”. https://www.bournemouthecho.co.uk/news/national/uk-today/19469537.government-fears-covid-spread-farting/ this is like one of them old British satirical paper stories. As much as the Bournemouth Echo is a bastion of award-winning journalism, a story with zero sources and the word 'reportedly' before evidence, should see this consigned to Viz Comic instead. Quite funny tho you may think its funny now, but you wont be laughing when Dictator Dan gives you a $5K fine for pulling someones finger! Genuinely loled :D
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+x+xmask wearing may not be enough, mandatory nappies may be next.... Government fears over Covid being spread through fartingA number of UK government ministers have expressed concern over the possibility of coronavirus spreading through flatulence. There is reportedly evidence to suggest the deadly virus could spread through people farting in confined spaces such as a toilet. Tests have shown that Covid-19 can spread through faecal matter however there is no definitive science to say whether flatulence could spread the disease responsible for a global health crisis. One minister, who was not named, told The Telegraph that there is “credible-looking stuff on it”. https://www.bournemouthecho.co.uk/news/national/uk-today/19469537.government-fears-covid-spread-farting/ this is like one of them old British satirical paper stories. As much as the Bournemouth Echo is a bastion of award-winning journalism, a story with zero sources and the word 'reportedly' before evidence, should see this consigned to Viz Comic instead. Quite funny tho you may think its funny now, but you wont be laughing when Dictator Dan gives you a $5K fine for pulling someones finger!
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+xmask wearing may not be enough, mandatory nappies may be next.... Government fears over Covid being spread through fartingA number of UK government ministers have expressed concern over the possibility of coronavirus spreading through flatulence. There is reportedly evidence to suggest the deadly virus could spread through people farting in confined spaces such as a toilet. Tests have shown that Covid-19 can spread through faecal matter however there is no definitive science to say whether flatulence could spread the disease responsible for a global health crisis. One minister, who was not named, told The Telegraph that there is “credible-looking stuff on it”. https://www.bournemouthecho.co.uk/news/national/uk-today/19469537.government-fears-covid-spread-farting/ this is like one of them old British satirical paper stories. As much as the Bournemouth Echo is a bastion of award-winning journalism, a story with zero sources and the word 'reportedly' before evidence, should see this consigned to Viz Comic instead. Quite funny tho
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mask wearing may not be enough, mandatory nappies may be next.... Government fears over Covid being spread through fartingA number of UK government ministers have expressed concern over the possibility of coronavirus spreading through flatulence. There is reportedly evidence to suggest the deadly virus could spread through people farting in confined spaces such as a toilet. Tests have shown that Covid-19 can spread through faecal matter however there is no definitive science to say whether flatulence could spread the disease responsible for a global health crisis. One minister, who was not named, told The Telegraph that there is “credible-looking stuff on it”. https://www.bournemouthecho.co.uk/news/national/uk-today/19469537.government-fears-covid-spread-farting/
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+xMore antibodies stay longer in the system with one shot rather than two, guess proper trials would have found this out before roll out , source tbc Keen to see your source. Wasn't able to find anything of the sort. One thing I'm pretty certain on is that next generation vaccines will eventually come on to the market that produce an even better and longer lasting immune response. The ones we have are already amazingly good though.
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More antibodies stay longer in the system with one shot rather than two, guess proper trials would have found this out before roll out , source tbc
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+xA mate of mine in Russia was actually in one of the testing phases of Sputnik V, he's been fine since and got a test later on showing he had antibodies, so I guess it worked. Completely anecdotal, of course. There was an article posted a while back about how Sputnik works. Apparently it is similar to AZ but uses two methods (1 for each shot) but because of the two methods, it creates more antibodies and they stick around.
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+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+xCrazy to think they're about to enter the worst period since pandemic began and she's not fronting the media anymore and putting up a video on NSW health site. This would be understandable if there was no cases, not when your reckless decisions have resulted in this. Where is the leadership? It really looks like a rat scurrying from the ship. Nobody even answering questions now.... Say or believe what you want about "chairman Dan" or "Mao Tse Dan" or "Adolf Andrews" or whatever the haters want to call the guy but at least he has had the cojones to front up to the media EVERY SINGLE DAY apart from when he was injured..... I dont agree with alot of what has transpired, or even the reasoning behind why it has but leadership, at least to me, means stepping up and being accountable for your actions... something the Libs don't seem to have a good grasp on in this country. And without a hint of shame News.com broke their necks to get this up:  Gladys, rightfully so, wants to move away from the hysteria of daily numbers. The situation in NSW isnt going to change. For those who want numbers there will be a daily video giving them. The biggest health crisis in a century about to get worse, with things changing almost daily, and public info absolutely critical, and the government has nobody to answer questions and be accountable? Also how does this look as a leader? Not to mention the absolute basics of information only being available on a video on NSW health website. Do you know how harder that is going to be to get critical messaging to the masses? Are news networks supposed to play that video? Going out on a limb here I think this isn't as bad as people are trying to make out. Covid is here, they can't stop it, hurry up and get vaccinated and we can get on with it. My mate sent me something about Singapore and how they're having a resurgence in cases as an up yours to me who's saying let's open up. To me it just shows that if Singapore can't make it work and contain then we definitely can't so let's get everyone who wants to and can be vaccinated and open 'er up.Fucks sake. Let's also see more discussion about getting other vaccines available to the Australian public if (based on available data) they appear safer and also more effective at immunising people against COVID. Such as? The Sputnik vaccine developed in Russia or the vaccine being issued in China, for starters. I don't have it on 100% authority, but I gather that the team who developed the Sputnik vaccine tested it first on animals and then jabbed themselves with it before making it public. If that isn't a sign of confidence in what they are rolling out I don't know what is? Obviously we have to take much of what comes out of China with a certain degree of skepticism, but from what we can see, the vaccine they are issuing appears to be more effective than the ones available to us here, to the point it stops the patient from spreading the virus altogether. They also need to be willing to import the goods to Australia as well. I don't think they're bothered with doing that.
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Queenscliffe has reached 95.9% first dose, a lot of retirees there and it's the smallest LGA in Victoria (it survived amalgamation in the 90s) but it's still an encouraging sign.
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A mate of mine in Russia was actually in one of the testing phases of Sputnik V, he's been fine since and got a test later on showing he had antibodies, so I guess it worked. Completely anecdotal, of course.
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+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+xCrazy to think they're about to enter the worst period since pandemic began and she's not fronting the media anymore and putting up a video on NSW health site. This would be understandable if there was no cases, not when your reckless decisions have resulted in this. Where is the leadership? It really looks like a rat scurrying from the ship. Nobody even answering questions now.... Say or believe what you want about "chairman Dan" or "Mao Tse Dan" or "Adolf Andrews" or whatever the haters want to call the guy but at least he has had the cojones to front up to the media EVERY SINGLE DAY apart from when he was injured..... I dont agree with alot of what has transpired, or even the reasoning behind why it has but leadership, at least to me, means stepping up and being accountable for your actions... something the Libs don't seem to have a good grasp on in this country. And without a hint of shame News.com broke their necks to get this up: Gladys, rightfully so, wants to move away from the hysteria of daily numbers. The situation in NSW isnt going to change. For those who want numbers there will be a daily video giving them. The biggest health crisis in a century about to get worse, with things changing almost daily, and public info absolutely critical, and the government has nobody to answer questions and be accountable? Also how does this look as a leader? Not to mention the absolute basics of information only being available on a video on NSW health website. Do you know how harder that is going to be to get critical messaging to the masses? Are news networks supposed to play that video? Going out on a limb here I think this isn't as bad as people are trying to make out. Covid is here, they can't stop it, hurry up and get vaccinated and we can get on with it. My mate sent me something about Singapore and how they're having a resurgence in cases as an up yours to me who's saying let's open up. To me it just shows that if Singapore can't make it work and contain then we definitely can't so let's get everyone who wants to and can be vaccinated and open 'er up.Fucks sake. Let's also see more discussion about getting other vaccines available to the Australian public if (based on available data) they appear safer and also more effective at immunising people against COVID. Such as? The Sputnik vaccine developed in Russia or the vaccine being issued in China, for starters. I don't have it on 100% authority, but I gather that the team who developed the Sputnik vaccine tested it first on animals and then jabbed themselves with it before making it public. If that isn't a sign of confidence in what they are rolling out I don't know what is? Obviously we have to take much of what comes out of China with a certain degree of skepticism, but from what we can see, the vaccine they are issuing appears to be more effective than the ones available to us here, to the point it stops the patient from spreading the virus altogether. Where are you getting your information exactly? The Chinese vaccines so far have been clearly shown to be significantly less effective than just about any other vaccine out there, so much to the point that healthcare workers in countries like Thailand are protesting, demanding a third booster shot. The Sputnik vaccine actually looks quite good. I find it absolutely astonishing, however, that you are particularly wary of data corruption or interference by big pharmaceutical companies yet immediately take the anecdote from an authoritarian dictatorship at face value.
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+x+x+x+x+x+x+xCrazy to think they're about to enter the worst period since pandemic began and she's not fronting the media anymore and putting up a video on NSW health site. This would be understandable if there was no cases, not when your reckless decisions have resulted in this. Where is the leadership? It really looks like a rat scurrying from the ship. Nobody even answering questions now.... Say or believe what you want about "chairman Dan" or "Mao Tse Dan" or "Adolf Andrews" or whatever the haters want to call the guy but at least he has had the cojones to front up to the media EVERY SINGLE DAY apart from when he was injured..... I dont agree with alot of what has transpired, or even the reasoning behind why it has but leadership, at least to me, means stepping up and being accountable for your actions... something the Libs don't seem to have a good grasp on in this country. And without a hint of shame News.com broke their necks to get this up: Gladys, rightfully so, wants to move away from the hysteria of daily numbers. The situation in NSW isnt going to change. For those who want numbers there will be a daily video giving them. The biggest health crisis in a century about to get worse, with things changing almost daily, and public info absolutely critical, and the government has nobody to answer questions and be accountable? Also how does this look as a leader? Not to mention the absolute basics of information only being available on a video on NSW health website. Do you know how harder that is going to be to get critical messaging to the masses? Are news networks supposed to play that video? Going out on a limb here I think this isn't as bad as people are trying to make out. Covid is here, they can't stop it, hurry up and get vaccinated and we can get on with it. My mate sent me something about Singapore and how they're having a resurgence in cases as an up yours to me who's saying let's open up. To me it just shows that if Singapore can't make it work and contain then we definitely can't so let's get everyone who wants to and can be vaccinated and open 'er up.Fucks sake. Let's also see more discussion about getting other vaccines available to the Australian public if (based on available data) they appear safer and also more effective at immunising people against COVID. Such as? The Sputnik vaccine developed in Russia or the vaccine being issued in China, for starters. I don't have it on 100% authority, but I gather that the team who developed the Sputnik vaccine tested it first on animals and then jabbed themselves with it before making it public. If that isn't a sign of confidence in what they are rolling out I don't know what is? Obviously we have to take much of what comes out of China with a certain degree of skepticism, but from what we can see, the vaccine they are issuing appears to be more effective than the ones available to us here, to the point it stops the patient from spreading the virus altogether.
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+xI think this article sums it up nicely https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-09-13/singapore-has-80-per-cent-vaccination-but-life-is-not-normal/100450154Singapore has 80% vaxx but the number of infections hasnt stopped rising, so people are panicking and calling it a failure, and they have restrictions in place. Australia has the same model But buried within the text of the article is 35 seriously ill and 7 people in ICU despite 2000 cases a day Countries looking to avoid infections are destined for failure, lockdown and restrictions for 3 or 4 years. Vaccinations wont stop infection numbers and neither will masks. Countries looking to minimise critical hospitalisations and deaths will open up and get on with things Everybody knew vaccinations wont stop number of infections so for that to still be the leading stat doesnt bode well Yeah that article is a joke. Instead of talking about what a success it has been they've skewed it to make it look like a negative. One of the most densely populated countries in the world has 7 people in ICU. I'd say that's a giant success. Mind you Palachook and McGowan would still be crapping on about Covid zero. I see QLD has a bit of an outbreak.
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+xOut of lockdown here. Went out on the piss yesterday arvo at the pub. Fantastic. Feel sorry for all my lockdown brothers and sisters in NSW and Vic still. enjoy ya bastard :) We've got the excitement of being able to meet 5 people in a park from today as long as your double vaxxed :) Be good to see the oldies more than anything else for starters. Better than nothing I guess its a start.
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I think this article sums it up nicely https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-09-13/singapore-has-80-per-cent-vaccination-but-life-is-not-normal/100450154Singapore has 80% vaxx but the number of infections hasnt stopped rising, so people are panicking and calling it a failure, and they have restrictions in place. Australia has the same model But buried within the text of the article is 35 seriously ill and 7 people in ICU despite 2000 cases a day Countries looking to avoid infections are destined for failure, lockdown and restrictions for 3 or 4 years. Vaccinations wont stop infection numbers and neither will masks. Countries looking to minimise critical hospitalisations and deaths will open up and get on with things Everybody knew vaccinations wont stop number of infections so for that to still be the leading stat doesnt bode well
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Out of lockdown here. Went out on the piss yesterday arvo at the pub. Fantastic. Feel sorry for all my lockdown brothers and sisters in NSW and Vic still.
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+x+x+x+x- Was listening to Triple J this morning in the car and Dr. Karl was on. He said (and I am paraphrasing here) it's likely the whole world's population will need to be vaccinated every 6 months for the next 50 years or so. If this is the generally accepted consensus, the amount of money to be made and power up for grabs is mind-boggling. Anybody who develops a vaccine or shares information that threatened to derail that gravy train would be in great danger. - The NSW government announcement on vaccine passports (and that's exactly what they are, no matter how they try to couch it in euphemisms) is completely the wrong move. They're effectively setting up a two-tier society and the fact is that there are going to be plenty of people who aren't fully vaccinated or even halfway there in a months' time. I also heard that vaccination rates in NSW are beginning to slow down- and is it any wonder when the government comes out and tries to manipulate the population into doing what they want while holding their basic freedoms hostage? Why should the vaccine hesitant or the skeptics not expect us to reach that 'magic' 70% number only for government to turn around and say "Actually we need it to be 80%/ 90% now to go back to normal?" By taking this hard-line approach, they're only making it more difficult to achieve their goal. If you have Astrazeneca Dr Swan was saying you won't need a booster or if you do it'll be yearly if not longer. Serious question. What's your solution? Let everyone become naturally immune? I'd like to see the development of treatment/ treatments that stop the person from getting COVID outright, Like a vaccine? Lol.
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