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..... and at least the later re-start gives Sydney fans more reason to whinge when Nix and Roar contest the Grand Final 😁
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https://www.smh.com.au/sport/soccer/paid-in-full-ffa-receives-belated-quarterly-sum-from-fox-sports-20200501-p54p4m.htmlThe A-League has cleared a major hurdle for the resumption of the season after Football Federation Australia belatedly received its full quarterly payment from Fox Sports. Football industry sources have confirmed Fox has now paid the near $12 million instalment of its broadcast deal with FFA, which was due mid-last month.
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Waz
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That pretty much confirms the deal is worth $48m/year in cash plus contra
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Was expecting cancellation if they couldn't get a start in prior to 30 June. Surely that would make more sense and focus on getting next season starting of with a bang! The Adelaide coach has already quit, some players already returned home, this will be a waste of time, just give it to Sydney. What happens with next season and also Mcarthur FC? Some players have probably already signed contracts with rival clubs. Makes no sense prolonging the season. At lease the situation gives Western United an excuse for delaying/not building the stadium I guess.
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+xWas expecting cancellation if they couldn't get a start in prior to 30 June. Surely that would make more sense and focus on getting next season starting of with a bang! The Adelaide coach has already quit, some players already returned home, this will be a waste of time, just give it to Sydney. What happens with next season and also Mcarthur FC? Some players have probably already signed contracts with rival clubs. Makes no sense prolonging the season. It's an absolute circus, just embarrassing...may as well play it sometime in 2023...
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That's some good news, will help all clubs in the short term.
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+xWas expecting cancellation if they couldn't get a start in prior to 30 June. Surely that would make more sense and focus on getting next season starting of with a bang! The Adelaide coach has already quit, some players already returned home, this will be a waste of time, just give it to Sydney. What happens with next season and also Mcarthur FC? Some players have probably already signed contracts with rival clubs. Makes no sense prolonging the season. At lease the situation gives Western United an excuse for delaying/not building the stadium I guess. Your comment highlights one of the underlying problems with peoples reaction to the current crisis. This thing won’t be over anytime soon and crowds wont be allowed back until there is either a cure or a vaccine.
The most likely consequence of this is “next season” won’t start in October, or November, possibly not even December. There is no “normal” about this so finishing up this season in August will be odd but the consequences of football disappearing in March and not reappearing until January next year could be huge.
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https://www.espn.com.au/soccer/australian-a-league/story/4090923/a-league-set-for-august-1-restart-sourcesA-League set for August 1 restart - sourcesA-League players will be back in training on July 1, with the remainder of the season to commence on Aug. 1, sources have told ESPN. Clubs were informed of the plans late on Friday afternoon (AEST), with five rounds of matches plus a finals series remaining to complete the 2019-20 Hyundai A-League season. Details are yet to be confirmed, but the hub model is thought to the preferred option, with Sydney the front-runner to host the remaining fixtures. All teams will observe the ongoing health and safety regulations. Overseas players who did not remain in Australia will be required to observe two weeks of quarantine upon their arrival back in the country.
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+xThat pretty much confirms the deal is worth $48m/year in cash plus contra I thought our deal was $57m per year? no??
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+x+xWas expecting cancellation if they couldn't get a start in prior to 30 June. Surely that would make more sense and focus on getting next season starting of with a bang! The Adelaide coach has already quit, some players already returned home, this will be a waste of time, just give it to Sydney. What happens with next season and also Mcarthur FC? Some players have probably already signed contracts with rival clubs. Makes no sense prolonging the season. It's an absolute circus, just embarrassing...may as well play it sometime in 2023... The only embarrassment is your sorry self. Not for the first time, please do find something approximating a life.
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Waz
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+x+xThat pretty much confirms the deal is worth $48m/year in cash plus contra I thought our deal was $57m per year? no?? It was never clear what it was because it had several variable components in it including contra, additional payments per expansion team, and a kicker at the end if “metrics” were met.
So Gallop always talked the deal up to its full potential but never broke it down per year even though we new it was worth more in its last year than in its first.
If this is a quarterly payment then 4 x $12m makes this years contract worth just under $48m (plus contra).
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According to the AFR at the time of signing. The new deal is comprised of $310 million in cash and $36 million in contra payments. The FFA has, crucially, also negotiated to end the "last rights" clause that has previously enabled Fox Sports to match any other bid the governing body receives.
https://www.afr.com/companies/sport/soccer-strikes-record-346m-tv-deal-20161220-gteq5r
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That’s probably closer to the mark, which would be $51m/year plus contra.
Then there was supposedly a $3m/year raise for each expansion team, although there was some dispute saying fox weren’t prepared to pay that this year.
Secondly Gallop was quoted as saying there were metrics in place that if the comp hit them they would get an increase at the back end of the contract
So $48m/year seems about right.
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The important thing to remember is that the $48m cash also covers Socceroos friendlies and Matildas games which are worth about $6m pa.
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+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+xWell, the nrl have anounced their intentions. What about aleague, will they anounce on april 22, they will finally finish the last handful of rounds, or sit on their hands-not usually Johnson's style to say or do nothing. Really, what has he done, other than standing down 70% of staff while keeping his fat executive salary ? Do u honestly believe the Lowy’s would have taken pay cuts in the exact same situation?! but but "anything is better than Lowy"... Do you have anything at all going on in your brain apart from this drivel? I wasn't the one who brought up the Lowy's. Yep I brought them up cos you are always complaining about Johnson or ‘the new regime’. Instead of standing down 70% of staff the Lowys probably would stood down everybody but themselves- always looking after their private before the health of Australian football 👍 Considering how they cut and run from Fury and GCU when the going was tough, leaving nothing behind to someday regrow, I'd imagine the Lowys would have just folded the league and walked away. You forget one thing back in 2010. That TV deal from 2006-2013 was only 17 million a year. We had 10 sides on a salary cap of 2.25 million. thats 22.5 million. 17 million coming in, 22.5 million being spent ment 5.5 milllion in the bad. Meanwhile from 2013-17, the TV money was 40 million a year, Acutally its 37 million because 3 million was spent on Advertising. Meanwhile the Salary cap was $2.5 million or 25 million for 10 teams. So that means 37 million coming in, 25 million on the salary cap spent on 10 sides. that meant 12 million left to spare. Then you had 2017-18, the 1st year of the current deal which was 56 million a year. The Salary cap was 2.9 million or 29 million on 10 sides. 56 million coming in, 29 million coming out, thats 27 million on spare cash for the FFA. Except prior to the last media deal the Socceroos rights were included in the deal... in the 57 million dollar deal there were no Socceroo rights whereas in the previous deals there was... so take the Socceroo money out of the previous deals and its not much different... the AFC own the rights to Socceroo WCQ & ACQ
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+xThe important thing to remember is that the $48m cash also covers Socceroos friendlies and Matildas games which are worth about $6m pa. So if that $48m is correct and we take off $6m for Socceroos and Matilda’s games, then the true value to the HAL is $42m (I honestly think $6m is over valuing the friendly international matches because even at $500k each there would need to be 12 a year to make $6m work. Gallop has done a number here imo).
The “good” news is iHAL dies t need to find a $57m/year tv deal to survive, it only needs something like $35m and could easily survive off $25m
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+x+xThe important thing to remember is that the $48m cash also covers Socceroos friendlies and Matildas games which are worth about $6m pa. The “good” news is iHAL dies t need to find a $57m/year tv deal to survive, it only needs something like $35m and could easily survive off $25m Good observation, you'd hope we'd be able to attract $25m per annum, as a minimum, with a new broadcaster.
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+xThat pretty much confirms the deal is worth $48m/year in cash plus contra Not necessarily. It could be a bigger payment upfront because we’re at the tail end of the season.
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+x+xThat pretty much confirms the deal is worth $48m/year in cash plus contra Not necessarily. It could be a bigger payment upfront because we’re at the tail end of the season. I thought something similar, but from the snippets we've read, it sounds like it comprises four equal payments.
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Maybe this is a smart move for Fox because we might be the only half decent football league in the world actually playing games. We might get a serious spike in viewers from around the world.
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+x+x+xThat pretty much confirms the deal is worth $48m/year in cash plus contra Not necessarily. It could be a bigger payment upfront because we’re at the tail end of the season. I thought something similar, but from the snippets we've read, it sounds like it comprises four equal payments. That’s my read as well. And it makes sense. The contract was loaded with increments for expansion and in to the last two years of the contract if metrics were net.
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Sage has said the season will be completed by the end of August, and the new season will commence mid October. Fox ain’t going anywhere for now
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With Fox cutting costs massively it wouldn't surprise me if FFA have sacrificed some revenue behind the scenes to match - contra, expansion team increases and metric kickers later on being removed would give Fox bean counters some certainty.
But certainly good news if we have kicked this can three years down the road.
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Well finally Libel is right.
Thx new FFA hahahaha.
Thankfully Gallop and the Lowy's arent there burning bridges.
Seriously though,If FFA and the Owners ,New A league management( NALM)can sit down with Fox and guarantee a three year deal with NALM in charge ,things could improve rapidly.
This twilight zone we are in with FFA in charge while the Foxsports deal runs for the next three years is not helping the game at all.
Surely Foxsports can see that having a deadman walking HAL for three years is jist throwing away good money.
What they should be working on is getting better outcomes for that money on the assumption they have to pay it.
Foxsports would be much better off if NALM took control now and had a crack at investing their own money to drive the the A League forward.
When will the owners get a front man to drive the NALM forward?At the moment they appear to be leaderless.
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Not one quote from Fox in that article, and we're celebrating off Sage's comments of all people lol.
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+xNot one quote from Fox in that article, and we're celebrating off Sage's comments of all people lol. When you are deep in a tunnel and you see light,Isnt it logical to run towards it? 😀
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+xWith Fox cutting costs massively it wouldn't surprise me if FFA have sacrificed some revenue behind the scenes to match - contra, expansion team increases and metric kickers later on being removed would give Fox bean counters some certainty.
But certainly good news if we have kicked this can three years down the road. That's how I see it too. I strongly suspect some kind of deal has been reached. Would not be at all surprised to find Fox paying less for the next three years.
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+x+xWith Fox cutting costs massively it wouldn't surprise me if FFA have sacrificed some revenue behind the scenes to match - contra, expansion team increases and metric kickers later on being removed would give Fox bean counters some certainty.
But certainly good news if we have kicked this can three years down the road. That's how I see it too. I strongly suspect some kind of deal has been reached. Would not be at all surprised to find Fox paying less for the next three years. My guess is a deal has been done pertaining to ratings.... but I could be wrong... as I said its my guess... The word I have heard is the owners have big plans once they get fully in charge but given the crap of the last say 3 years they would prefer for the Fox deal to run for a while while they do what they plan... so they can get more in the next deal... Remember and its important to remember, collectively the owners of the A-League are highly successful business folk with many connections... who have invested millions into this competition... to assume as many have they will walk away or are some rabble in a state of chaos is beyond foolish ... I doubt any other code has the business expertise the A-League clubs have... AS an aside the A-League owners are very very very impressed with JJ ... I wonder aloud if they will pinch him to head up iAL..
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