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AJF
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+xCan't get true opportunity unless there are more teams, should of been up to 14 going on 16 teams by now. Politics have cruelled football in Australia! you cant get an opportunity when pensioners are preferred due to their "low risk"
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3 visa platers is enough, clubs should be by this stage in the A League be developing players from their own academy’s to move into first team football. and it can be done , look at Roar where we have DWH , JCP, Akbari Jacob Powell and Riorden . there is 5 U23 players that have played first team football this year that should get more game time next year , hopefully JCP will make the left CB role his With competition from Riorden Jacob Powell to LB Akbari midfield and how good is it when DWH is getting on the score sheet . The A League is a development league and clubs should be doing just that , develop and sell .
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Footyball
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Can't get true opportunity unless there are more teams, should of been up to 14 going on 16 teams by now. Politics have cruelled football in Australia!
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Teams don’t have to have any visa players.
Restrictions will most likely mean older players have extended careers.
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n i k o
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+xI can see the argument for 3 foreign spots. The fourth and fifth import at a lot of clubs aren't that good. It's a bit of the chicken and egg metaphor. Will changing the foreign spots be the answer or changing the salary cap so that more can be spent on the fourth and fifth player that currently isn't very good?
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I can see the argument for 3 foreign spots. The fourth and fifth import at a lot of clubs aren't that good.
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+x+x+xThe only thing this would drive is wage inflation in Australian footballers protected from competition.
It’s time Aussie players hardened the fuck up and competed for their places instead of having them handed to them on a protected platter. I don’t see it as being handed anything on a protected platter, as the balance isn’t quite right yet. Some managers have tended to show that they have gone for the easy way out and choose an experienced visa player, which they then refuse to drop even if they underperform. There will likely need to be a considerable change in salary cap moving forward, and adjusting the limits on visa spots down to 3+1 (AFC visa player) as a transitional step. That would then have to be re-evaluated at certain intervals, in line with player development guidelines that will need to be assessed to ensure all clubs are meeting goals that would need to be set for youth players.
There is a myth that it is the A-League that is holding back young Australian player development, and a Trump sort of logic that it’s “the foreign players taking our spots” that’s to blame. Sounds right, but I don’t think it is.
Youth development occurs not in the A-League but in the early teenage years through to about 19, beyond that you’re really polishing what’s already there - at this point (19) they’re typically good enough of they’re not. All the A-League gives them is experience.
Young Australian players are getting about 18 competitive games a year, often with interchange so they rarely play a full game. That’s less than half of the recommended number of games for youth players which is 40+ which is what foreign youth players are getting (some get 50 games a season!).
This lack of games is a big part of the problem and we don’t seem to be able to address it with cost being cited as the reason. And I’m not talking about Y-League here I’m talking about U18, U16, U15 competitions.
All reducing visa players will do is lower the quality of the A League which in turn will lower the development of young players who are getting picked - the so called cure will only make things worse. Spot on.
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Waz
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+x+xThe only thing this would drive is wage inflation in Australian footballers protected from competition.
It’s time Aussie players hardened the fuck up and competed for their places instead of having them handed to them on a protected platter. I don’t see it as being handed anything on a protected platter, as the balance isn’t quite right yet. Some managers have tended to show that they have gone for the easy way out and choose an experienced visa player, which they then refuse to drop even if they underperform. There will likely need to be a considerable change in salary cap moving forward, and adjusting the limits on visa spots down to 3+1 (AFC visa player) as a transitional step. That would then have to be re-evaluated at certain intervals, in line with player development guidelines that will need to be assessed to ensure all clubs are meeting goals that would need to be set for youth players.
There is a myth that it is the A-League that is holding back young Australian player development, and a Trump sort of logic that it’s “the foreign players taking our spots” that’s to blame. Sounds right, but I don’t think it is.
Youth development occurs not in the A-League but in the early teenage years through to about 19, beyond that you’re really polishing what’s already there - at this point (19) they’re typically good enough of they’re not. All the A-League gives them is experience.
Young Australian players are getting about 18 competitive games a year, often with interchange so they rarely play a full game. That’s less than half of the recommended number of games for youth players which is 40+ which is what foreign youth players are getting (some get 50 games a season!).
This lack of games is a big part of the problem and we don’t seem to be able to address it with cost being cited as the reason. And I’m not talking about Y-League here I’m talking about U18, U16, U15 competitions.
All reducing visa players will do is lower the quality of the A League which in turn will lower the development of young players who are getting picked - the so called cure will only make things worse.
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Heart_fan
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+xThe only thing this would drive is wage inflation in Australian footballers protected from competition.
It’s time Aussie players hardened the fuck up and competed for their places instead of having them handed to them on a protected platter. I don’t see it as being handed anything on a protected platter, as the balance isn’t quite right yet. Some managers have tended to show that they have gone for the easy way out and choose an experienced visa player, which they then refuse to drop even if they underperform. There will likely need to be a considerable change in salary cap moving forward, and adjusting the limits on visa spots down to 3+1 (AFC visa player) as a transitional step. That would then have to be re-evaluated at certain intervals, in line with player development guidelines that will need to be assessed to ensure all clubs are meeting goals that would need to be set for youth players.
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Waz
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The only thing this would drive is wage inflation in Australian footballers protected from competition.
It’s time Aussie players hardened the fuck up and competed for their places instead of having them handed to them on a protected platter.
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agreed, 3 is enough.
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I agree the overall depth of foreigners is not good enough to raise the standard of the A league high enough to counter the detrimental effect this has on our best young Australian players chance to further develop in the A league and the five allocated foreign Visa spots combined with not having a reserve grade, a decent youth league and or a second division for the younger players to get decent game time and develop leaves our young Australian players with nowhere near enough adequate development opportunities.
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