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CanberraHarry
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+x+x+x+xYeah, lots of questions. The AFC requires minimum season length of 27 games, and they can get away with 26 with the guaranteed FFA Cup fixture for all clubs, but it reeks of just doing the bare minimum. 27 rounds would at least let you do 2.5 round robins (with a geographical split to maximise the number of derbies). 26 rounds is a double round-robin plus a random 4 extra matches. Ending early to avoid the Olympics also sounds like the old attitude of trying to evade clashes with other events rather than having enough confidence in your own product to worry about its quality first and foremost. The smart thing would have been to do a January-September season, with 33 rounds + finals. That way you end up being aligned with the NPL, and you can have an FFA Cup tournament for the Round of 32 onwards in October. Then a break for a February/March start in 2022. But apparently the Foxtel contract requires them to finish by July 31. Which begs the question: why sign such a restrictive contract, when we still had no idea what Covid would have in store? As it is there's no guarantee Victoria will have fans in stadiums by Christmas, or that NZ will allow quarantine-free movement for Wellington players. It’s so the a league olyroos can play in the Olympics Would very much doubt there will be olympics next year , the rest off the world is getting hit far harder with second wave than the first. True, at this point, I have trouble seeing the OLympics going ahead. What kind of government would willingly allow thousands of people to flood in from the most infected parts of the world? You'd have to be the dumbest leader on earth. You certainly wouldn’t let foreign fans in but athletes, who quarantine before and after arrival, could be managed. And with less hangers on, eg politicians etc.
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FFA Cup from Jul to November - allowing for a smaller window before a winter re-alignment in 2022. FFA CEO, James Johnson, is believed to be among those keen on adopting a group stage to the early phase of the Cup, offering more games for both A-League and NPL clubs. An open draw is also under consideration, which would do away with the current situation whereby at least one NPL club is guaranteed a spot in the semi-finals. The Cup was kept out of the one-year extended broadcast deal with Fox Sports, perhaps to be used as a testing ground for a proposed digital hub, run by the game itself. FFA is also keen to offer a half spot into the Asian Champions League for the winners of the Cup, while the alignment of the football calendar to winter would continue to offer it some "clear air," with the early rounds to commence in July, and continuing through until the final around November.FFA is believed to be keen on the final becoming the last game of the calendar year, as is the case with most European knockout competitions. Extract from https://sport.optus.com.au/articles/os13834/football-federation-australia-name-change-a-catalyst-to-connect-with-our-football-past?setDevice=mobile
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+x+x+x+xYeah, lots of questions. The AFC requires minimum season length of 27 games, and they can get away with 26 with the guaranteed FFA Cup fixture for all clubs, but it reeks of just doing the bare minimum. 27 rounds would at least let you do 2.5 round robins (with a geographical split to maximise the number of derbies). 26 rounds is a double round-robin plus a random 4 extra matches. Ending early to avoid the Olympics also sounds like the old attitude of trying to evade clashes with other events rather than having enough confidence in your own product to worry about its quality first and foremost. The smart thing would have been to do a January-September season, with 33 rounds + finals. That way you end up being aligned with the NPL, and you can have an FFA Cup tournament for the Round of 32 onwards in October. Then a break for a February/March start in 2022. But apparently the Foxtel contract requires them to finish by July 31. Which begs the question: why sign such a restrictive contract, when we still had no idea what Covid would have in store? As it is there's no guarantee Victoria will have fans in stadiums by Christmas, or that NZ will allow quarantine-free movement for Wellington players. It’s so the a league olyroos can play in the Olympics Would very much doubt there will be olympics next year , the rest off the world is getting hit far harder with second wave than the first. They might do the Olympics with no foreign fans. Just Japanese supporters. And athletes quarantined at home and then again in Japan, with no mingling between nations until competition begins. Heavy restrictions in the athlete’s village on mixing. It could be done. The World needs to start living with this bastard virus and keeping sport going, albeit with heavy restrictions, is becomingly increasingly necessary for all the related businesses (the pie and beer sellers) and people’s mental health, needing something to be enthusiastic about, if only on the tv. Apparently they are going to do the boxing in adjacent rings.
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+x+x+x+x+xYeah, lots of questions. The AFC requires minimum season length of 27 games, and they can get away with 26 with the guaranteed FFA Cup fixture for all clubs, but it reeks of just doing the bare minimum. 27 rounds would at least let you do 2.5 round robins (with a geographical split to maximise the number of derbies). 26 rounds is a double round-robin plus a random 4 extra matches. Ending early to avoid the Olympics also sounds like the old attitude of trying to evade clashes with other events rather than having enough confidence in your own product to worry about its quality first and foremost. The smart thing would have been to do a January-September season, with 33 rounds + finals. That way you end up being aligned with the NPL, and you can have an FFA Cup tournament for the Round of 32 onwards in October. Then a break for a February/March start in 2022. But apparently the Foxtel contract requires them to finish by July 31. Which begs the question: why sign such a restrictive contract, when we still had no idea what Covid would have in store? As it is there's no guarantee Victoria will have fans in stadiums by Christmas, or that NZ will allow quarantine-free movement for Wellington players. It’s so the a league olyroos can play in the Olympics Would very much doubt there will be olympics next year , the rest off the world is getting hit far harder with second wave than the first. They might do the Olympics with no foreign fans. Just Japanese supporters. And athletes quarantined at home and then again in Japan, with no mingling between nations until competition begins. Heavy restrictions in the athlete’s village on mixing. It could be done. The World needs to start living with this bastard virus and keeping sport going, albeit with heavy restrictions, is becomingly increasingly necessary for all the related businesses (the pie and beer sellers) and people’s mental health, needing something to be enthusiastic about, if only on the tv. The athletes can’t have sex with each other then which will be a challenge You underestimate the motivation of horny humans. As for this start date it's essentially a Fox thing to squeeze the juice out of this thing before the end date of the contract.
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+x+xAND with 12 teams why only just 26 rounds Can't F.F.A count? ?! 12 teams home and away is 22 rounds isn't it? What are the other 4 matches? For MV I bet the 4 additional matches will be 2 derbies, 1 big blue and then either a game against AU or perhaps WSW. All about the metrics baby!!
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+xFFA Cup from Jul to November - allowing for a smaller window before a winter re-alignment in 2022. FFA CEO, James Johnson, is believed to be among those keen on adopting a group stage to the early phase of the Cup, offering more games for both A-League and NPL clubs. This makes a lot of sense, although you would probably run it from when after the NPL season has finished. Perhaps run a world cup or champions league style tournament over an 8-9 week period. It would also provide a good opportunity for FFA TV to have a trial run in the leadup to the 2022 AL season.
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+xUgh ! Some one at FFA was NOT THINKING !! What a awful AWFUL time to to start the season :( Some just like to complain for the sake of it!
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Waz
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+xFFA Cup from Jul to November - allowing for a smaller window before a winter re-alignment in 2022. FFA CEO, James Johnson, is believed to be among those keen on adopting a group stage to the early phase of the Cup, offering more games for both A-League and NPL clubs. An open draw is also under consideration, which would do away with the current situation whereby at least one NPL club is guaranteed a spot in the semi-finals. The Cup was kept out of the one-year extended broadcast deal with Fox Sports, perhaps to be used as a testing ground for a proposed digital hub, run by the game itself. FFA is also keen to offer a half spot into the Asian Champions League for the winners of the Cup, while the alignment of the football calendar to winter would continue to offer it some "clear air," with the early rounds to commence in July, and continuing through until the final around November.FFA is believed to be keen on the final becoming the last game of the calendar year, as is the case with most European knockout competitions. Extract from https://sport.optus.com.au/articles/os13834/football-federation-australia-name-change-a-catalyst-to-connect-with-our-football-past?setDevice=mobile There is no certainty on a winter realignment. It’s more dependent on the broadcaster than anything else by the looks of things
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Too much summer.
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+x+x+x+x+xYeah, lots of questions. The AFC requires minimum season length of 27 games, and they can get away with 26 with the guaranteed FFA Cup fixture for all clubs, but it reeks of just doing the bare minimum. 27 rounds would at least let you do 2.5 round robins (with a geographical split to maximise the number of derbies). 26 rounds is a double round-robin plus a random 4 extra matches. Ending early to avoid the Olympics also sounds like the old attitude of trying to evade clashes with other events rather than having enough confidence in your own product to worry about its quality first and foremost. The smart thing would have been to do a January-September season, with 33 rounds + finals. That way you end up being aligned with the NPL, and you can have an FFA Cup tournament for the Round of 32 onwards in October. Then a break for a February/March start in 2022. But apparently the Foxtel contract requires them to finish by July 31. Which begs the question: why sign such a restrictive contract, when we still had no idea what Covid would have in store? As it is there's no guarantee Victoria will have fans in stadiums by Christmas, or that NZ will allow quarantine-free movement for Wellington players. It’s so the a league olyroos can play in the Olympics Would very much doubt there will be olympics next year , the rest off the world is getting hit far harder with second wave than the first. True, at this point, I have trouble seeing the OLympics going ahead. What kind of government would willingly allow thousands of people to flood in from the most infected parts of the world? You'd have to be the dumbest leader on earth. You certainly wouldn’t let foreign fans in but athletes, who quarantine before and after arrival, could be managed. And with less hangers on, eg politicians etc. Yeh, but the trouble is that it's not just athletes, it's coaches, it's admin staff, then it's politicians, and their family and staff, etc, etc And as if any of these sorts of self-entitled pricks are going to follow the rules.
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+xFFA Cup from Jul to November - allowing for a smaller window before a winter re-alignment in 2022. FFA CEO, James Johnson, is believed to be among those keen on adopting a group stage to the early phase of the Cup, offering more games for both A-League and NPL clubs. An open draw is also under consideration, which would do away with the current situation whereby at least one NPL club is guaranteed a spot in the semi-finals. The Cup was kept out of the one-year extended broadcast deal with Fox Sports, perhaps to be used as a testing ground for a proposed digital hub, run by the game itself. Extract from https://sport.optus.com.au/articles/os13834/football-federation-australia-name-change-a-catalyst-to-connect-with-our-football-past?setDevice=mobile Group stages in the FFA cup might work. I can recall years ago that the Serie A used to have early group stages in their cup. It means that the FFA cup offers a minimum 3 or 6 games on top of the regular season. Also, for the time being, it' a good way to fill August to November.
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+x+xFFA Cup from Jul to November - allowing for a smaller window before a winter re-alignment in 2022. FFA CEO, James Johnson, is believed to be among those keen on adopting a group stage to the early phase of the Cup, offering more games for both A-League and NPL clubs. An open draw is also under consideration, which would do away with the current situation whereby at least one NPL club is guaranteed a spot in the semi-finals. The Cup was kept out of the one-year extended broadcast deal with Fox Sports, perhaps to be used as a testing ground for a proposed digital hub, run by the game itself. Extract from https://sport.optus.com.au/articles/os13834/football-federation-australia-name-change-a-catalyst-to-connect-with-our-football-past?setDevice=mobile Group stages in the FFA cup might work. I can recall years ago that the Serie A used to have early group stages in their cup. It means that the FFA cup offers a minimum 3 or 6 games on top of the regular season. Also, for the time being, it' a good way to fill August to November. As a one-off to fill the calendar before moving to a winter season, fine. But not an ongoing basis. The cup should be a knock-out. The Coppa Italia is no model, because it has had record low interest from Italians in it (it's a bit better now precisely because they have moved to a knockout format). If they need more games (which they do), make the league season longer.
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WHAT IS THIS ? A-league starts at Xmas &group Stage forFA Cup WTF ?! !
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All that aside, I hope we have a home game first up (and can go to games).
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+xAll that aside, I hope we have a home game first up (and can go to games). Dolphin will be Rockin’ 😁
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+x+xI don't know why they didn't simply just make it a home and away 22 round season since it's been such a fucked up year. It would finish in time without the need of midweek games, and although a short season it'll atleast be a fair draw. Too short a season. Top fella this JJ
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+x+x+xI don't know why they didn't simply just make it a home and away 22 round season since it's been such a fucked up year. It would finish in time without the need of midweek games, and although a short season it'll atleast be a fair draw. Too short a season. Top fella this JJ Im beginning to agree with you on this... JJ is Biden to Gallop's Trump.
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+x+x+x+xI don't know why they didn't simply just make it a home and away 22 round season since it's been such a fucked up year. It would finish in time without the need of midweek games, and although a short season it'll atleast be a fair draw. Too short a season. Top fella this JJ Im beginning to agree with you on this... JJ is Biden to Gallop's Trump. Enough with the political comparisons. This is a football forum, not a chance for frustrated politicians to vent.
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+x+x+x+x+xYeah, lots of questions. The AFC requires minimum season length of 27 games, and they can get away with 26 with the guaranteed FFA Cup fixture for all clubs, but it reeks of just doing the bare minimum. 27 rounds would at least let you do 2.5 round robins (with a geographical split to maximise the number of derbies). 26 rounds is a double round-robin plus a random 4 extra matches. Ending early to avoid the Olympics also sounds like the old attitude of trying to evade clashes with other events rather than having enough confidence in your own product to worry about its quality first and foremost. The smart thing would have been to do a January-September season, with 33 rounds + finals. That way you end up being aligned with the NPL, and you can have an FFA Cup tournament for the Round of 32 onwards in October. Then a break for a February/March start in 2022. But apparently the Foxtel contract requires them to finish by July 31. Which begs the question: why sign such a restrictive contract, when we still had no idea what Covid would have in store? As it is there's no guarantee Victoria will have fans in stadiums by Christmas, or that NZ will allow quarantine-free movement for Wellington players. It’s so the a league olyroos can play in the Olympics Would very much doubt there will be olympics next year , the rest off the world is getting hit far harder with second wave than the first. True, at this point, I have trouble seeing the OLympics going ahead. What kind of government would willingly allow thousands of people to flood in from the most infected parts of the world? You'd have to be the dumbest leader on earth. You certainly wouldn’t let foreign fans in but athletes, who quarantine before and after arrival, could be managed. And with less hangers on, eg politicians etc. According to Wikipedia, Japan stands to lose US $41,500,000,000 ( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2020_Summer_Olympics#Postponement_to_2021 ) if they don't host it. I'd say they'd be willing to take the hit of no foreign tourism in order to at least recoup some of their costs with local attendance and advertising/TV hosting.
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Monoethnic Social Club
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+x+x+x+x+xI don't know why they didn't simply just make it a home and away 22 round season since it's been such a fucked up year. It would finish in time without the need of midweek games, and although a short season it'll atleast be a fair draw. Too short a season. Top fella this JJ Im beginning to agree with you on this... JJ is Biden to Gallop's Trump. Enough with the political comparisons. This is a football forum, not a chance for frustrated politicians to vent. More an analogy of universal uselessness than a political commentary but OK, point taken.
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bettega
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+x+x+x+x+x+xYeah, lots of questions. The AFC requires minimum season length of 27 games, and they can get away with 26 with the guaranteed FFA Cup fixture for all clubs, but it reeks of just doing the bare minimum. 27 rounds would at least let you do 2.5 round robins (with a geographical split to maximise the number of derbies). 26 rounds is a double round-robin plus a random 4 extra matches. Ending early to avoid the Olympics also sounds like the old attitude of trying to evade clashes with other events rather than having enough confidence in your own product to worry about its quality first and foremost. The smart thing would have been to do a January-September season, with 33 rounds + finals. That way you end up being aligned with the NPL, and you can have an FFA Cup tournament for the Round of 32 onwards in October. Then a break for a February/March start in 2022. But apparently the Foxtel contract requires them to finish by July 31. Which begs the question: why sign such a restrictive contract, when we still had no idea what Covid would have in store? As it is there's no guarantee Victoria will have fans in stadiums by Christmas, or that NZ will allow quarantine-free movement for Wellington players. It’s so the a league olyroos can play in the Olympics Would very much doubt there will be olympics next year , the rest off the world is getting hit far harder with second wave than the first. True, at this point, I have trouble seeing the OLympics going ahead. What kind of government would willingly allow thousands of people to flood in from the most infected parts of the world? You'd have to be the dumbest leader on earth. You certainly wouldn’t let foreign fans in but athletes, who quarantine before and after arrival, could be managed. And with less hangers on, eg politicians etc. According to Wikipedia, Japan stands to lose US $41,500,000,000 ( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2020_Summer_Olympics#Postponement_to_2021 ) if they don't host it. I'd say they'd be willing to take the hit of no foreign tourism in order to at least recoup some of their costs with local attendance and advertising/TV hosting. Yep. They'd have the script ready to go right now for the moment when they say: no.
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+x+x+xAND with 12 teams why only just 26 rounds Can't F.F.A count? ?! 12 teams home and away is 22 rounds isn't it? What are the other 4 matches? For MV I bet the 4 additional matches will be 2 derbies, 1 big blue and then either a game against AU or perhaps WSW. All about the metrics baby!! With Lowy gone I’m glad we’ve gone away from the plastic......oh wait!!!!! LOL
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+xUgh ! Some one at FFA was NOT THINKING !! What a awful AWFUL time to to start the season :( What an AWFUL UNTHINKING and UNHELPFUL comment.
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+x+x+x+xYeah, lots of questions. The AFC requires minimum season length of 27 games, and they can get away with 26 with the guaranteed FFA Cup fixture for all clubs, but it reeks of just doing the bare minimum. 27 rounds would at least let you do 2.5 round robins (with a geographical split to maximise the number of derbies). 26 rounds is a double round-robin plus a random 4 extra matches. Ending early to avoid the Olympics also sounds like the old attitude of trying to evade clashes with other events rather than having enough confidence in your own product to worry about its quality first and foremost. The smart thing would have been to do a January-September season, with 33 rounds + finals. That way you end up being aligned with the NPL, and you can have an FFA Cup tournament for the Round of 32 onwards in October. Then a break for a February/March start in 2022. But apparently the Foxtel contract requires them to finish by July 31. Which begs the question: why sign such a restrictive contract, when we still had no idea what Covid would have in store? As it is there's no guarantee Victoria will have fans in stadiums by Christmas, or that NZ will allow quarantine-free movement for Wellington players. It’s so the a league olyroos can play in the Olympics Would very much doubt there will be olympics next year , the rest off the world is getting hit far harder with second wave than the first. They might do the Olympics with no foreign fans. Just Japanese supporters. And athletes quarantined at home and then again in Japan, with no mingling between nations until competition begins. Heavy restrictions in the athlete’s village on mixing. It could be done. The World needs to start living with this bastard virus and keeping sport going, albeit with heavy restrictions, is becomingly increasingly necessary for all the related businesses (the pie and beer sellers) and people’s mental health, needing something to be enthusiastic about, if only on the tv. Great post problem solver Harry.
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+x+x+x+x+xYeah, lots of questions. The AFC requires minimum season length of 27 games, and they can get away with 26 with the guaranteed FFA Cup fixture for all clubs, but it reeks of just doing the bare minimum. 27 rounds would at least let you do 2.5 round robins (with a geographical split to maximise the number of derbies). 26 rounds is a double round-robin plus a random 4 extra matches. Ending early to avoid the Olympics also sounds like the old attitude of trying to evade clashes with other events rather than having enough confidence in your own product to worry about its quality first and foremost. The smart thing would have been to do a January-September season, with 33 rounds + finals. That way you end up being aligned with the NPL, and you can have an FFA Cup tournament for the Round of 32 onwards in October. Then a break for a February/March start in 2022. But apparently the Foxtel contract requires them to finish by July 31. Which begs the question: why sign such a restrictive contract, when we still had no idea what Covid would have in store? As it is there's no guarantee Victoria will have fans in stadiums by Christmas, or that NZ will allow quarantine-free movement for Wellington players. It’s so the a league olyroos can play in the Olympics Would very much doubt there will be olympics next year , the rest off the world is getting hit far harder with second wave than the first. They might do the Olympics with no foreign fans. Just Japanese supporters. And athletes quarantined at home and then again in Japan, with no mingling between nations until competition begins. Heavy restrictions in the athlete’s village on mixing. It could be done. The World needs to start living with this bastard virus and keeping sport going, albeit with heavy restrictions, is becomingly increasingly necessary for all the related businesses (the pie and beer sellers) and people’s mental health, needing something to be enthusiastic about, if only on the tv. The athletes can’t have sex with each other then which will be a challenge Victoria offering its security guards as a compromise.
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+xFFA Cup from Jul to November - allowing for a smaller window before a winter re-alignment in 2022. FFA CEO, James Johnson, is believed to be among those keen on adopting a group stage to the early phase of the Cup, offering more games for both A-League and NPL clubs. An open draw is also under consideration, which would do away with the current situation whereby at least one NPL club is guaranteed a spot in the semi-finals. The Cup was kept out of the one-year extended broadcast deal with Fox Sports, perhaps to be used as a testing ground for a proposed digital hub, run by the game itself. FFA is also keen to offer a half spot into the Asian Champions League for the winners of the Cup, while the alignment of the football calendar to winter would continue to offer it some "clear air," with the early rounds to commence in July, and continuing through until the final around November.FFA is believed to be keen on the final becoming the last game of the calendar year, as is the case with most European knockout competitions. Extract from https://sport.optus.com.au/articles/os13834/football-federation-australia-name-change-a-catalyst-to-connect-with-our-football-past?setDevice=mobile I really like that idea. Great work
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I'd love to know the strategy behind starting the competition during what is probably the number one week of the year for a significant number of people to be out of routine/away/occupied and just generally unavailable to watch and/or attend an A-League game. At a time where eyeballs and bums on seats are more crucial than ever, this is a very questionable decision imo
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+xI'd love to know the strategy behind starting the competition during what is probably the number one week of the year for a significant number of people to be out of routine/away/occupied and just generally unavailable to watch and/or attend an A-League game. At a time where eyeballs and bums on seats are more crucial than ever, this is a very questionable decision imo People would have whinged no matter what date they chose. Less people will be travelling this year and those days between boxing day and NYE are as good as any to get out for a game (if we're even allowed) or to watch on tv with a food and/or actual hangover.
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+xI'd love to know the strategy behind starting the competition during what is probably the number one week of the year for a significant number of people to be out of routine/away/occupied and just generally unavailable to watch and/or attend an A-League game. At a time where eyeballs and bums on seats are more crucial than ever, this is a very questionable decision imo I would say it’s probably the latest date they could start this season and fit it in to the window of the tv broadcast contract and late enough that fans might be allowed in and borders opened. I don’t think anyone sat down and said “wouldn’t it be great if we started at Christmas” rather it’s just a combination of circumstances that make unusual decisions necessary.
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+xI'd love to know the strategy behind starting the competition during what is probably the number one week of the year for a significant number of people to be out of routine/away/occupied and just generally unavailable to watch and/or attend an A-League game. At a time where eyeballs and bums on seats are more crucial than ever, this is a very questionable decision imo Foxtel money. No other reason. This is the window they have given us for the 32 million.
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