The Aussies Abroad Thread 2


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Arzani bench in Cup game 
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JCP got the last 5 minutes or so in the polish cup against a top division side. 
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Sainsbury starting in cup. Luongo probably being rested in Papa John's Trophy. 
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And Ruka scores..a penalty.
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Maty starting in the Copa del Rey.
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Arzani with final 30min in tough cup game against Gent. Kortrijk leading.

Boyle and AMB starting in league. Burgess starting in EFL trophy for Ipswich. No Wright in same competition as Oldham lead Sunderland. 
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Podiacide - 2 Dec 2021 2:12 AM
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Extremely early days but I think it’s more promising if they are loaning him out to low level teams for first team football against adults with the occasional minutes of EFL trophy/cup games rather than playing for their under 23s. 
I’m getting more and more skeptical by the day of our young players going overseas and playing youth football for academies of big teams instead of dropping down divisions and playing first team football and working their way up the pyramid. 
We actually have an interesting experiment with the Francois brothers in the UK. 
Older brother Tyrese has stayed at Fulham hoping to getting regular time in first team squad after many years excelling for their youth team. 
Younger brother Marley was carving it up for Bristol city’s youth team and instead quit them to join 7th division Bath City for regular first team football. Let’s see who advances the most in their careers. 

Tyrese hasn't played for ages for either the top team or the u23s. I reckon he'll be gone in January. It is an interesting question - I wouldn't think that Div 7 would be a higher level than u23s for a PL team?
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SoccerooFan - 2 Dec 2021 5:06 PM
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Tyrese hasn't played for ages for either the top team or the u23s. I reckon he'll be gone in January. It is an interesting question - I wouldn't think that Div 7 would be a higher level than u23s for a PL team?

Actually I posted too soon and realised I got my facts wrong after more research

Marlee Francois went on loan to Bath CIty from Bristol City end of August. Was supposed to be for 4 months but for some reason, that I cant figure out, he was back at Bristol City u/23's after 4 or 5 weeks. And Bristol City send a lot of their U/23's on loan to clubs at that level so it wasnt really a special case.  Bristol City are in the Championship but I cant find any talk that Marlee is even close to making a senior squad. But he is only 18.

Tyrese refused to sign a new contract with Fulham so he has been dropped from both Senior squads and u/23 team. Havent found any news on any team looking at signing him but unless he agrees a new deal he will definitely be gone in January transfer window.  He isnt the only one in this situation at Fulham, young Wunderkid Fabio Carvalho is in the same boat. Really hard to get promoted to first team and get regular minutes if your team is yo-yoing between EPL relegation and Championship promotion - managers wont take risks. Lets hope he goes somewhere he can get first team minutes.

Caleb Watts is in similar boat for Southampton, Carving up u/23's, first team coach acknowledging he is a real talent - but southampton are in a dog fight to stay up and they have far less injuries than last year when Watts got some first team minutes. Hopefully he gets a loan somewhere in January. But how many times have young aussies been in this same boat for last 10 years? Honestly there must have been a few dozen. Shine in EPL and Championship youth academy teams, most dont break into first team squads, those who do are lucky to play a handful of games before they are let go. I'd say at least 50% never kick on to any type of football career beyond 2 or 3 seasons at very low levels. I'd say most dont even play more than a handful of games at Olyroos/Young socceroos level. Extremely frustrating to the point I'm now cynical that its actually an effective pathway.

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SoccerooFan - 30 Nov 2021 9:39 PM
Roma Youth on Instagram showing pictures & footage of Valpato training with Roma's first team. Last video showing him scoring a goal, under the eye of Jose. Cap him now ⚽🦘🦘🦘

If you need any more convincing about this kid playing for the Socceroos, have a look at his recent outing for Roma's reserve team - Roma Youth Instagram. Check out the ridiculous through ball to set up the goal & run later on where he goes through their entire midfield and defence to nearly score. He's a goal scoring CAM, something we've been crying out for
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SoccerooFan - 2 Dec 2021 9:23 PM
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If you need any more convincing about this kid playing for the Socceroos, have a look at his recent outing for Roma's reserve team - Roma Youth Instagram. Check out the ridiculous through ball to set up the goal & run later on where he goes through their entire midfield and defence to nearly score. He's a goal scoring CAM, something we've been crying out for

Australian football focused on team structure and tactics means that players who display individual skills are given the cold shoulder.
We need more focus on individual skills
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Bowden - 29 Nov 2021 5:35 PM
How many failed overhyped wonderkids does it take for Australian football fans to calm the fuck down about the next overseas youth academy kid who’s never played a single game of professional football? I feel like this continuous cycle of ‘cap him!!!’ has been on constant repeat for my entire life supporting football. 

This. And I don't even really follow the International side of football.

If people are serious about selecting these players than fine. Identity a select/core group of 5 or 6-ish from this age group, and bleed them into the senior set-up/selection real early/young and build a team around that core group of youngsters. Other wise just let the kids develop at their own rate without the added pressure of being touted as the next Kewell, Cahill etc.

🇮🇪Hail Hail🇮🇪

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Paul01 - 2 Dec 2021 6:30 AM
And Ruka scores..a penalty.

After a slow start he's now 3 goals in 4.
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BrisbaneBhoy - 2 Dec 2021 10:25 PM
Bowden - 29 Nov 2021 5:35 PM

And I don't even really follow the International side of football.



Well why would you?! Nothing much to do with celtic afterall
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Balin Trev - 2 Dec 2021 10:56 PM
BrisbaneBhoy - 2 Dec 2021 10:25 PM

Well why would you?! Nothing much to do with celtic afterall

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🇮🇪Hail Hail🇮🇪

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A squad's worth of these guys could(and should've) have been capped against Nepal or Taiwan in the qualifiers before COVID hit💡


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Rogic vs Devlin. 
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BA81 - 3 Dec 2021 1:00 AM
A squad's worth of these guys could(and should've) have been capped against Nepal or Taiwan in the qualifiers before COVID hit💡

Would've been nice. Bit jealous about the Arab cup and all the testing they can do. The hunger from these reserves will give the coaches a lot to think about.

If I saw correctly on the sideline the Saudi team even had a different manager so maybe it's their Olympic bunch with that coach too. 
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Rogic and Devlin starting


By now, American Samoa must have realised that Australias 22-0 win over Tonga two days earlier was no fluke.

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playmaker11 - 3 Dec 2021 6:29 AM
Rogic and Devlin starting

Rogic putting in lung bursting runs and scrapping for challenges well into stoppage time is a sight for sore aussies abroad eyes
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Devlin played 90
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johnszasz - 2 Dec 2021 7:55 AM
Arzani with final 30min in tough cup game against Gent. Kortrijk leading.

Boyle and AMB starting in league. Burgess starting in EFL trophy for Ipswich. No Wright in same competition as Oldham lead Sunderland. 

Lommel website says Arzani was very dangerous for last 30 minutes with 2 very good strikes at goal against a dominant Gent side
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johnszasz - 2 Dec 2021 7:55 AM
Arzani with final 30min in tough cup game against Gent. Kortrijk leading.

Boyle and AMB starting in league. Burgess starting in EFL trophy for Ipswich. No Wright in same competition as Oldham lead Sunderland. 

AMB in SPL team of the week.



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Full game for Peupion. Can't find line up for Kuol's game on now. Gotta wait for a goal for it to pop up on my sources.
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johnszasz - 4 Dec 2021 5:09 AM
Full game for Peupion. Can't find line up for Kuol's game on now. Gotta wait for a goal for it to pop up on my sources.

He’s on the bench 
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Gersbach starts


By now, American Samoa must have realised that Australias 22-0 win over Tonga two days earlier was no fluke.

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Tyrese kinda stuffed himself by not signing a new deal should of tried to get a gig in the aleague now its a wasted season.
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jas88 - 4 Dec 2021 11:19 AM
Tyrese kinda stuffed himself by not signing a new deal should of tried to get a gig in the aleague now its a wasted season.

Him and mabil both have cooked themselves this season.  Speaking to the media and saying you will be leaving end of season is dumbest thing to do
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WAHammer - 4 Dec 2021 2:18 AM
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AMB in SPL team of the week.



How realistic is this sort of Team of the Week. Seems odd to only have one Rangers, One Celtic and no Hearts or Hibs players in a Scottish Team of the Week.
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Kalik starting at #10 again. 11 games 3 goals and 3 assists playing CAM 
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Panos starting as well
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