The Aussies Abroad Thread 2


The Aussies Abroad Thread 2

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Kuol bench
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Decent game for oniell. Forced a diving save and was busy throughout in a 2 1 loss
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Volendam are playing football at least this game, but still 5 3 2 formation with no wingers....so tough for kuol to break in....
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bbouy - 26 Feb 2024 5:17 AM
grazorblade - 26 Feb 2024 4:28 AM

Could have another Circati situation on our hands. He impressed me in the Young Socceroos (U20's) and seemingly impressed in Lecce's Primavera side to get given this opportunity. The U20's look really strong heading into the U20 Asian Cup Quals this year and U20 Asian Cup/World Cup next year

Yeah we've got some good young players coming through. Crazy that he's getting on the bench at 18 yrs old, as he's yet to play a senior game - I don't think he debuted for City before he left, but I could be wrong?
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bbouy - 26 Feb 2024 5:17 AM
grazorblade - 26 Feb 2024 4:28 AM

Could have another Circati situation on our hands. He impressed me in the Young Socceroos (U20's) and seemingly impressed in Lecce's Primavera side to get given this opportunity. The U20's look really strong heading into the U20 Asian Cup Quals this year and U20 Asian Cup/World Cup next year

I think our golden generation cbs didnt play in big 5 leagues till 24ish? Any one know who was the youngest?

Circati could be unprecendented for his position for australia. If eposito joins him that would be pretty incredible
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grazorblade - 26 Feb 2024 8:48 AM
bbouy - 26 Feb 2024 5:17 AM

I think our golden generation cbs didnt play in big 5 leagues till 24ish? Any one know who was the youngest?

Circati could be unprecendented for his position for australia. If eposito joins him that would be pretty incredible

Yeah, that sounds about right (if I get my maths right below)
CBs (or could play defensive) below

Neill @ Blackburn aged 23-24
Moore @ Rangers from 19, then Crystal Palace for a season in the now Championship at age 23-24 
Okon something similar to Moore (but with Club Brugge, then Lazio)
Muscat @ Crystal Palace around 23-24
Zelic @ Dortmund 21-22
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Goodwin with an assist this morning 
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NicCarBel - 26 Feb 2024 11:11 AM
grazorblade - 26 Feb 2024 8:48 AM

Yeah, that sounds about right (if I get my maths right below)
CBs (or could play defensive) below

Neill @ Blackburn aged 23-24
Moore @ Rangers from 19, then Crystal Palace for a season in the now Championship at age 23-24 
Okon something similar to Moore (but with Club Brugge, then Lazio)
Muscat @ Crystal Palace around 23-24
Zelic @ Dortmund 21-22

None of them apart from Neill & Zelic had huge careers in the top 5 leagues.

Okon injuries curtailed his career in Italy & England was tail end.
Moore mainly in Rangers, 1 season with Crystal Palace.
Muscat only 9 games in the top 5 leagues

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robbos - 27 Feb 2024 10:36 AM
NicCarBel - 26 Feb 2024 11:11 AM

None of them apart from Neill & Zelic had huge careers in the top 5 leagues.

Okon injuries curtailed his career in Italy & England was tail end.
Moore mainly in Rangers, 1 season with Crystal Palace.
Muscat only 9 games in the top 5 leagues

Okon played a decent amount of games at both boro and Leeds both under El Tel ! 

Moore played at Borussia M'gladbach for a season or 2 also
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Don't think he's been mentioned in here before but...

Louis Agosti made his Serie C starting debut a few days ago. Started and played 75 minutes. He's an 18yo midfielder. 
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bbouy - 27 Feb 2024 11:16 PM
Don't think he's been mentioned in here before but...

Louis Agosti made his Serie C starting debut a few days ago. Started and played 75 minutes. He's an 18yo midfielder. 

seri c and 18 years old is nothing to sneeze at!
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Baccus bench. Hmmm a mix of new players during Asian Cup and perhaps his previous wanting away?
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Jones starting. Iredale bench. No Elder tonight. AMB bench. 
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johnszasz - 28 Feb 2024 6:52 AM
Baccus bench. Hmmm a mix of new players during Asian Cup and perhaps his previous wanting away?

Concerning considering he's our starting #6 for the Socceroos. Guess that means O'Neill will be first choice now. 
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Souttar bench in the Cup. Circati bench - probably due to his mistake last game - he's come on following a second yellow to one of the starting CBs. 
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SoccerooFan - 28 Feb 2024 8:21 AM
Souttar bench in the Cup. Circati bench - probably due to his mistake last game - he's come on following a second yellow to one of the starting CBs. 

I've said everything that can be said about Souttar's situation. I just try to ignore it now and hope the misery is over this summer.
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SoccerooFan - 28 Feb 2024 8:18 AM
johnszasz - 28 Feb 2024 6:52 AM

Concerning considering he's our starting #6 for the Socceroos. Guess that means O'Neill will be first choice now. 

On that note, O'Neill's suspension will carry over to the Lebanon game. It's not like Baccus won't be picked. He's an Arnold favourite. He's got to lift.
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Good results for Portsmouth with Derby losing. Bolton currently behind. I'd like Portsmouth to go up. Bolton as Jones and Iredale get the Championship exposure. I don't expect Bilokapic to be starting for Peterborough in the Championship. It's not like Elder hasn't played Championship before but a promotion won't get him back into the national team short list anyway. 
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Baccus with an assist
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Bunch of Hacks - 27 Feb 2024 4:26 PM
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Okon played a decent amount of games at both boro and Leeds both under El Tel ! 

Moore played at Borussia M'gladbach for a season or 2 also

I'm not knocking either Okon or Moore, big fans of both.
I saw Okon just boss Ghana around in a friendly in Sydney, it was awesome
Moore was an excellent defender for Socceroos.

But neither had great careers in the top 5 leagues of Europe, lets be real.

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johnszasz - 28 Feb 2024 6:52 AM
Baccus bench. Hmmm a mix of new players during Asian Cup and perhaps his previous wanting away?

Early days still but he may have lost his starting spot to this guy:

https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/sport/football/football-transfer-news/st-mirren-open-kwon-loan-32218404

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Bunch of Hacks - 27 Feb 2024 4:26 PM
robbos - 27 Feb 2024 10:36 AM

Okon played a decent amount of games at both boro and Leeds both under El Tel ! 

Moore played at Borussia M'gladbach for a season or 2 also

Yes, but this was much later in their careers (closer to, if not at aged 30). We're talking about the 20-25 age range of careers
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if Circati and Esposito start playing Serie A regularly... where does that leave Souttar? 
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grazorblade - 25 Feb 2024 11:14 PM
Wonderful article on kuol

This sub thread is one few informed threads on osaussies rather than the usual "dur... why isnt he playing in the epl? Will be back in the a league soon" trollop aussie fans dish up without watching osaussies play. So nice to see an informed thread

https://www.smh.com.au/sport/soccer/how-manchester-united-s-sale-could-leave-socceroos-young-gun-out-in-the-cold-20240221-p5f6th.html

Great article. Vince has done some good work here.. sucks for Garang hopefully he will get some good luck soon.
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johnszasz - 28 Feb 2024 8:43 AM
SoccerooFan - 28 Feb 2024 8:18 AM

On that note, O'Neill's suspension will carry over to the Lebanon game. It's not like Baccus won't be picked. He's an Arnold favourite. He's got to lift.

I'd like to see Nieuwenhof given the opportunity. 
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jas88 - 28 Feb 2024 2:48 PM
if Circati and Esposito start playing Serie A regularly... where does that leave Souttar? 

Good problem to have. Probably depends on form. 
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Hmm volpato might end up in seri b next year the way sassoulo are playing...
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Volpato on against Napoli. Napoli absolutely smashing Sassuolo right now 
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grazorblade - 29 Feb 2024 5:13 AM
Hmm volpato might end up in seri b next year the way sassoulo are playing...

They’re sitting in the relegation zone already. Serie B looking likely for Volpato tbh. 
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5 goals to 1, 2 xg to 0.3, posession 70 30, its almost matildas v uzbekistan

Reminds me of volendam tho where volpato, like kuol, gets few touches but they are nice touches
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