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Round 8 of the 2023-24 #ALM season was attended by 40,996 people at an average of 6,833 per game. (24% of capacity). This season 361,788 people have attended the #ALM at an average of 7,537 per game (26% of capacity). This figure is down 9.56% on the first 8 rounds of the 2022-23 season
Code | Week | Day | Date | Time | Home | Away | Venue | Crowd | Capacity | %Capacity | ALM | 8 | Fri | 15/12 | 1730 | Western United | Brisbane | Aami Park | 2,842 | 30,050 | 9.46% | ALM | 8 | Fri | 15/12 | 1915 | Western Sydney | Adelaide | Commbank Stadium | 8,034 | 30,000 | 26.78% | ALM | 8 | Sat | 16/12 | 1730 | Newcastle | Perth | McDonald Jones | 4,714 | 30,000 | 15.71% | ALM | 8 | Sat | 16/12 | 1915 | Melb Victory | Sydney | Aami Park | 14,607 | 30,050 | 48.61% | ALM | 8 | Sun | 17/12 | 1630 | Melb City | Central Coast | Aami Park | 5,906 | 30,050 | 19.65% | ALM | 8 | Mon | 18/12 | 1830 | MAcarthur | Wellington | Campbelltown | 4,893 | 17,500 | 27.96% | | | | | | | | Total | 40,996 | 167,650 | 24.45% | | | | | | | | Average | 6,833 | | | | | | | | | | Season Total | 361,788 | 1,378,295 | 26.25% | | | | | | | | Season Average | 7,537 | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | 2022-23 Season Total | 375,051 | 1,245,795 | 30.11% | | | | | | | | 2022-23 Season ave | 8,334 | | | | | | | | | | Difference | -9.56% | | |
Round 8 of the 2023-24 #ALW season was attended by 13,065 people at an average of 2,178 per match (19% of capacity). This season has been attended by 111,327 at an average of 2,474 (up 17%), while standalone matches have been attended by 78,410 at an average of 1,713 per game (up 35%).
Code | Week | Day | Date | Time | Home | Away | Venue | Crowd | Capacity | %Capacity | ALW | 8 | Fri | 15/12 | 1900 | Central Coast | Melb City | INdustree Grpup Stadium | 1,273 | 20,059 | 6.35% | ALW | 8 | Sat | 16/12 | 1630 | Melb Victory | Canberra | Aami Park | 6,033 | 30,050 | 20.08% | ALW | 8 | Sat | 16/12 | 1700 | Adelaide | Wellington | Marden Sports Complex | 593 | 6,000 | 9.88% | ALW | 8 | Sun | 17/12 | 1630 | Newcastle | Western United | Newcastle No.2 Sportsground | 2,023 | 5,000 | 40.46% | ALW | 8 | Sun | 17/12 | 1730 | Brisbane | Western Sydney | Perry Park | 1,575 | 5,000 | 31.50% | ALW | 8 | Sun | 17/12 | 2130 | Perth | Sydney | Macedonia Park | 1,568 | 4,000 | 39.20% | | | | | | | | Total | 13,065 | 70,109 | 18.64% | | | | | | | | Average | 2,178 | | | | | | | | | | Standalone Total | 78,410 | 324,477 | 24.17% | | | | | | | | Standalone Average | 2,306 | | | | | | | | | | 2022-23 Standalone Total | 54803 | | | | | | | | | | 2022-23 Standalone Average | 1713 | | | | | | | | | | Difference | 34.62% | | | | | | | | | | Season Total | 111,327 | 886,386 | 12.56% | | | | | | | | Season Average | 2,474 | | | | | | | | | | 2022-23 Season Total | 69,071 | | | | | | | | | | 2022-23 Season Ave | 1,973 | | | | | | | | | | Difference | 16.88% | | |
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Feed_The_Brox
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+xI just had a play around with Ticketek and it does appear ticket sales have picked up. away end looking close to full. away bays are now sold out. that escalated quickly. only back rows of upper levels available now. looks like crowd will be 20k+ if reserved seat members of the home team show up
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Melbcityguy
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A league w crowds is good
10k at Adelaide
11k at Sydney
25k at the Melbourne derby
Anyone know the wellington crowd?
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Paul01
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+xA league w crowds is good 10k at Adelaide 11k at Sydney 25k at the Melbourne derby Anyone know the wellington crowd? Full list Brisbane v Mariners....................................6,855 Adelaide v Newcastle...............................10,064 Phoenix v Wanderers..................................7,284 Smurfs v Fraudsters.................................11,315 Heartle$$ v Melb Victory..........................25,884 Perth v Bullsh1tters.....................................5,163 Total attendance 66,575........rd average..11,096 Average attendence overall.........................7,934
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Round 9 of the 2022-23 #ALW season was attended by 15,874 at an average of 2,646 per game.
Standalone mtches this season total 44,097 at an average of 1,225 matches (+93%), while the season total is 127,201 at 2,494 (+133%)
Round 9 of the 2023-24 #ALM season was the highest drawing round so far this season with 66,575 attendees at an average of 11,096 per game. The #MelbourneDerby was the second highest drawing game of the season to date behind the Sydney version in round 5.
To date the season has seen 428,363 people attend at an average of 7,933 per game - down just 0.59% on the previous season to the same time.
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14k for Sydney Wellington. I don't know but some of the recent numbers for some games seem fairly good given the pessimistic atmosphere around the league. Yet some clubs are really struggling.
I bought tickets for a few games and the bloody admin fee is ridiculous too. Not a deciding factor but they need to really lower the prices because the vast majority won't buy a season ticket. Can clubs potentially administer tickets themselves or are they at the mercy of the stadium and ticketing companies? Hannover use their own now and only charge postage for away tickets.
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johnszasz
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So after all the confusion about my post not bumping, this thread is stickied! There you go.
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Melbcityguy
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Round 10 of the 2023-24 #ALM season was attended by 68,789 at an average of 11,465 per game (38% capacity). It was the highest attended round of the season to date.
To date 497,152 people have attended this season at an average of 8,286 per game (38% cap). This is up 3.86% on the same time in the 2022-23 season
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lets not get ahead of ourselves a couple of good rounds over the Christmas break is OK to smile about, but not a trend yet.... lets hope the uptake continues...
BTW take out the Cows and WU, crowd figures and games and the average is climbing back to pre covid days...
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Paul01
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+xlets not get ahead of ourselves a couple of good rounds over the Christmas break is OK to smile about, but not a trend yet.... lets hope the uptake continues... BTW take out the Cows and WU, crowd figures and games and the average is climbing back to pre covid days... Have to agree. Next round we home games for the Macarthur Bullsh1tters and Western United Fraudsters The total attendance for both games is likely to 7K max. The only hope for a good round attendence is for a few thousand Mariners fans travel to Parramatta for Tulio's last game for CCM
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do we have any indication what ticket sales might be for the unite round?
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Melbcityguy
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+xdo we have any indication what ticket sales might be for the unite round? They’re already admitting privately they’re not expecting big crowds for next weekend’s Unite Round in Sydney, while the decision to schedule a Melbourne Victory game at Allianz Stadium right before Sydney FC play seems fraught with danger. Per this article https://www.theroar.com.au/2024/01/08/there-are-still-signs-of-life-in-the-a-league-men-despite-the-bureaucratic-nonsense-of-the-apl/
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The 2023-24 #UniteRound was attended by 47,425 at an average of 3,952 per match (12% of capacity). #ALW matches were attended by 11,222 at an average of 1,870 (7.36% of venue capacity). More than 108,000 people have attended #ALW standalone fixtures in 2023-24 at an average of 2,095 per game. #ALM matches were attended by 36,203 at an average of 6,034 (16.95% of capacity). This is the second lowest total/average of the season behind round 6. 592,684 have attended the season to date at an average of 8,119.It should be noted that the AFLs Gather Round was its lowest non bye round of the season. Using the alternative metholdology (top attended match of the day and venue - 28,061 people attended #UniteRound at an average of 2,338 per match. The earlier method is the one now used by the AFL and NRL for Gather/Magic Round reporting. The latter is used by @au_sport and others. Code | Week | Day | Date | Time | Home | Away | Venue | Crowd | Capacity | %Capacity | ALW | 12 | Fri | 12/1 | 1630 | Mel Victory | Perth | Leichardt Oval | 1,130 | 20,000 | 5.65% | ALW | 12 | Fri | 12/1 | 1915 | Wellington | Central Coast | Leichardt Oval | 1,938 | 20,000 | 9.69% | ALW | 12 | Sat | 13/1 | 1630 | Canberra | Adelaide | Leichardt Oval | 1,183 | 20,000 | 5.92% | ALW | 12 | Sat | 13/1 | 1915 | Brisbane | Newcastle | Leichardt Oval | 1,417 | 20,000 | 7.09% | ALW | 12 | Sun | 14/1 | 1630 | Western United | Sydney FC | Allianz Stadium | 4,039 | 42,500 | 9.50% | ALW | 12 | Sun | 14/1 | 1630 | Western Sydney | Melbourne City | Commbank Stadium | 1,515 | 30,000 | 5.05% | | | | | | | | Total | 11,222 | 152,500 | 7.36% | | | | | | | | Average | 1,870 | | |
Code | Week | Day | Date | Time | Home | Away | Venue | Crowd | Capacity | %Capacity | ALM | 12 | Fri | 12/1 | 1700 | Macarthur | Western United | Commbank Stadium | 3,441 | 30,000 | 11.47% | ALM | 12 | Fri | 12/1 | 1945 | Melb City | Western Sydney | Commbank Stadium | 7,117 | 30,000 | 23.72% | ALM | 12 | Sat | 13/1 | 1645 | Central Coast | Melb Victory | Allianz Stadium | 8,147 | 42,500 | 19.17% | ALM | 12 | Sat | 13/1 | 1930 | Adelaide | Sydney | Allianz Stadium | 11,918 | 42,500 | 28.04% | ALM | 12 | Sun | 14/1 | 1915 | Brisbane | Newcastle | Allianz Stadium | 3,948 | 42,500 | 9.29% | ALM | 12 | Sun | 14/1 | 1915 | Perth | Wellington | Commbank Stadium | 1,632 | 30,000 | 5.44% | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | Total | 36,203 | 217,500 | 16.65% | | | | | | | | Average | 6,034 | | |
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Can anyone tell me the rationale behind the Unite round? The media kept talking it up, though presumably under instruction. The games were good (irrespective of the fact that it was the unite round) lots of goals and excitement, but some of the crowds were appalling. What possible benefit did the teams not from Sydney get by having 'home' games in Sydney.Those teams which may have attracted reasonable crowds were playing in front of meager crowds losing income from ticket sales and losing interest by not generating crowd atmosphere. Happy to change my mind if there is a rational explanation.
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+xCan anyone tell me the rationale behind the Unite round? The media kept talking it up, though presumably under instruction. The games were good (irrespective of the fact that it was the unite round) lots of goals and excitement, but some of the crowds were appalling. What possible benefit did the teams not from Sydney get by having 'home' games in Sydney.Those teams which may have attracted reasonable crowds were playing in front of meager crowds losing income from ticket sales and losing interest by not generating crowd atmosphere. Happy to change my mind if there is a rational explanation. Maybe, just maybe, people have watched enough games to realise that most of the goals are scored because of amateurish defending, and that, yours and others believe, makes the game exciting. The passing and receiving is poor and I can say without fear that only about 1/2 of those playing are worthy of an elite competition.
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Melbcityguy
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+x+xCan anyone tell me the rationale behind the Unite round? The media kept talking it up, though presumably under instruction. The games were good (irrespective of the fact that it was the unite round) lots of goals and excitement, but some of the crowds were appalling. What possible benefit did the teams not from Sydney get by having 'home' games in Sydney.Those teams which may have attracted reasonable crowds were playing in front of meager crowds losing income from ticket sales and losing interest by not generating crowd atmosphere. Happy to change my mind if there is a rational explanation. Maybe, just maybe, people have watched enough games to realise that most of the goals are scored because of amateurish defending, and that, yours and others believe, makes the game exciting. The passing and receiving is poor and I can say without fear that only about 1/2 of those playing are worthy of an elite competition. But aren't all goals anywhere scored from bad defending?
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+xCan anyone tell me the rationale behind the Unite round? A replacement for the Destination New South Wales Grand Final, which is all about trying to get funds from the government. It's the same as other sports trying to get funds from governments. Unfortunately, our sport is in the unenviable position of both needing funds AND being highly susceptible to embarrassment from failures, but we don't have the strength nor the media to back us up. Take AFL X for example, a complete laughing stock failure. But the game goes on and the media reports positive things each day. Whereas we never hear the positives in our sport (except at international level), and only make the news when it's negative. The total unfair mess that is AFL free agency, draft concessions, holding back the women's league etc... so much rubbish going on in AFL, but they move on like it's nothing, they aren't allowed to look bad from failures. But when they do, they have the backing to get through it. They have more stakeholders than Boston Chops.
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+xThe 2023-24 #UniteRound was attended by 47,425 at an average of 3,952 per match (12% of capacity). #ALW matches were attended by 11,222 at an average of 1,870 (7.36% of venue capacity). More than 108,000 people have attended #ALW standalone fixtures in 2023-24 at an average of 2,095 per game. #ALM matches were attended by 36,203 at an average of 6,034 (16.95% of capacity). This is the second lowest total/average of the season behind round 6. 592,684 have attended the season to date at an average of 8,119.It should be noted that the AFLs Gather Round was its lowest non bye round of the season. Using the alternative metholdology (top attended match of the day and venue - 28,061 people attended #UniteRound at an average of 2,338 per match. The earlier method is the one now used by the AFL and NRL for Gather/Magic Round reporting. The latter is used by @au_sport and others. Code | Week | Day | Date | Time | Home | Away | Venue | Crowd | Capacity | %Capacity | ALW | 12 | Fri | 12/1 | 1630 | Mel Victory | Perth | Leichardt Oval | 1,130 | 20,000 | 5.65% | ALW | 12 | Fri | 12/1 | 1915 | Wellington | Central Coast | Leichardt Oval | 1,938 | 20,000 | 9.69% | ALW | 12 | Sat | 13/1 | 1630 | Canberra | Adelaide | Leichardt Oval | 1,183 | 20,000 | 5.92% | ALW | 12 | Sat | 13/1 | 1915 | Brisbane | Newcastle | Leichardt Oval | 1,417 | 20,000 | 7.09% | ALW | 12 | Sun | 14/1 | 1630 | Western United | Sydney FC | Allianz Stadium | 4,039 | 42,500 | 9.50% | ALW | 12 | Sun | 14/1 | 1630 | Western Sydney | Melbourne City | Commbank Stadium | 1,515 | 30,000 | 5.05% | | | | | | | | Total | 11,222 | 152,500 | 7.36% | | | | | | | | Average | 1,870 | | |
Code | Week | Day | Date | Time | Home | Away | Venue | Crowd | Capacity | %Capacity | ALM | 12 | Fri | 12/1 | 1700 | Macarthur | Western United | Commbank Stadium | 3,441 | 30,000 | 11.47% | ALM | 12 | Fri | 12/1 | 1945 | Melb City | Western Sydney | Commbank Stadium | 7,117 | 30,000 | 23.72% | ALM | 12 | Sat | 13/1 | 1645 | Central Coast | Melb Victory | Allianz Stadium | 8,147 | 42,500 | 19.17% | ALM | 12 | Sat | 13/1 | 1930 | Adelaide | Sydney | Allianz Stadium | 11,918 | 42,500 | 28.04% | ALM | 12 | Sun | 14/1 | 1915 | Brisbane | Newcastle | Allianz Stadium | 3,948 | 42,500 | 9.29% | ALM | 12 | Sun | 14/1 | 1915 | Perth | Wellington | Commbank Stadium | 1,632 | 30,000 | 5.44% | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | Total | 36,203 | 217,500 | 16.65% | | | | | | | | Average | 6,034 | | |
+xCan anyone tell me the rationale behind the Unite round? The media kept talking it up, though presumably under instruction. The games were good (irrespective of the fact that it was the unite round) lots of goals and excitement, but some of the crowds were appalling. What possible benefit did the teams not from Sydney get by having 'home' games in Sydney.Those teams which may have attracted reasonable crowds were playing in front of meager crowds losing income from ticket sales and losing interest by not generating crowd atmosphere. Happy to change my mind if there is a rational explanation. look at who is funding the project, the NSW Government. I suspect the promo was also funded by them. They have the funds to make it happen. The A-League does not have the funds to do that for the regular comp. Also, the TV stations are on notice, if they bag the whole project, they might lose advertising dollars. I am not overly fond of the concept. It looks very much like "me too"-ism - following ideas from other codes. If you really want some stand out comp which other football codes can't do, have a State vs State comp - either knock-out or with two groups of 4 teams with each leaders of each group playing off in the final. No other football code can do this.
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Melbcityguy
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Not sure where else to mention this but in the women's league you have city vs Sydney in which should be a highly anticipated game first vs second vine is playing but you have it in Heidelberg.
The team goes from cranbourne to aami to epping to Heidelberg it's no wonder it's not a sell out when it really should be
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Melbcityguy
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Ignore me above it's in cranbourne I should of fact checked myself
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Adelaide vs Perth 8k
Adelaide is dropping in form the owners haven't done much to get confidence so crowd will drop.
Wellington vs western this is the opposite. 10K
Victory vs MacArthur 12k
Brisbane vs city 5k Mariners vs Sydney 6k
Western Sydney vs Newcastle 8k
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Paul01
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Just over 3,800 at Carrington Park to watch Wanderers Women vs Newcastle Jets Women. There is a girls yourh tournament on in Bathurst this weekend
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Personally I think we need to lift crowds to a 15K average across the league, but IMO the crowds or the trend lines at least are heading north. From Ultimate A-L , attendance without finals, its clear WU and the Cows have dragged down overall averages, if you exclude WU & Cows figures from 23/24 the average is a tad over 8, 800, or roughly 80% of pre covid during the civil war between FFA & the clubs. Its also clear the effects of the civil war. Teams===Year ==== Average 12====== 23/24 === 8, 065 12 ====== 22/23 === 7, 553 12 ====== 21/22 === 5, 353 12 ====== 20/21 === 5, 595 11 ====== 19/20 === 8, 726 10 ====== 18/19 === 10, 427 10 ====== 17/18 === 10, 654 ==== Civil war begun between FFA & the clubs. 10 ====== 16/17 === 12, 295 10 ====== 15/16 === 12, 309 10 ====== 14/15 === 12, 511
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+xIts also clear the effects of the civil war.
People choose to attend football based on some background political hoohah between some dudes in suits ? No wonder it's stuffed
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+x+xIts also clear the effects of the civil war.
People choose to attend football based on some background political hoohah between some dudes in suits ? No wonder it's stuffed not quite that simple, those wanting changed trashed the A-l for years, it drove people away and they have not come back, as did other things, we tend in football to destroy what we don't like.
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14084 @ Allianz tonight.
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Melbcityguy
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20k at the derby 6k at Perth vs Brisbane Newcastle women's pulled under 2k as well
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9k in Adelaide who's down the table playing against western united same night the afl team is playing is pretty good attendance imagine if they were winning more
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crowd averages for the season pretty much identical to last season at just a smidge under 8,000. Not great, but it didn't drop, which is something to build on. You would expect Victory, Newcastle, Perth and WU to do better with the expectation their off field issues should (in theory) improve.
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