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+x+x+x+x+xHilarious. One case in 113 days and known to have come from overseas quarantine. What to do? Do we stop people bringing the virus back to Australia? - No, international flights still coming in - bring it on. But let's shutdown a city of 3 million people. Better still - let's tell people they will be in mortal danger after 6pm tonight so that shopping centres are totally packed for the next 6 hours!! But the virus was apparently not contagious yesterday when they first knew of this and in fact is only contagious after 6pm tonight so all good. The good news is this highly contagious virus strain that is an extreme risk is only going to be so for 3 days Australia have really lost the plot with its response. Ever since the Victorian outbreak, overcautious haphazard rules have become the normal The WHO specifically said lockdowns arent a mechanism for beating the virus and only serve the purpose of buying time so regions overwhelmed by large numbers have time to get their resources in check. But what do they know? 1 fucking case and a major city is shut down. And we see the standard response of half the city panic buying while the other half try to flee This is actually a textbook response and is perfect. It maybe could have been done last night starting today that’s all.
What it does is put a lid on this thing and buys time to establish where the infections have been started and will give them time to ramp up contact tracing before it blows out of sight.
Good response. Australia has a suppression strategy, not an elimination strategy. There is 1 fucking case and by the time they get contact tracers out over the next 48 hours they might find 2 or 3. Big deal The situation is far from dire I dont think you understand how impractical it is for every major region to yoyo in and out of lockdown everytime there is a case. We have seen this with Melbourne, Adelaide, Sydney and now Brisbane. 4 major lockdowns in a 2 month period, with an estimated 12 months before our circumstances change Panic buying, economic hardship, closures, disruptions to life and sport, inconsistency, fatigue, mental health issues etc...etc...etc... We have never been in a situation where 1 case has been deemed too overwhelming and worthy of keeping things in check until contact tracers get on top of things. Australia has changed tact and it is the furthest thing from a good response For 9 months as a Victorian I have been waiting for the day we catch up to the other states. It has become increasingly apparent we're at the standard and you guys are going to come to us Fuckwit after Fuckwit posting their ignorance and hatred. Never seen somebody narrate their own posting before
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+x+x+x+x+x+xHilarious. One case in 113 days and known to have come from overseas quarantine. What to do? Do we stop people bringing the virus back to Australia? - No, international flights still coming in - bring it on. But let's shutdown a city of 3 million people. Better still - let's tell people they will be in mortal danger after 6pm tonight so that shopping centres are totally packed for the next 6 hours!! But the virus was apparently not contagious yesterday when they first knew of this and in fact is only contagious after 6pm tonight so all good. The good news is this highly contagious virus strain that is an extreme risk is only going to be so for 3 days Australia have really lost the plot with its response. Ever since the Victorian outbreak, overcautious haphazard rules have become the normal The WHO specifically said lockdowns arent a mechanism for beating the virus and only serve the purpose of buying time so regions overwhelmed by large numbers have time to get their resources in check. But what do they know? 1 fucking case and a major city is shut down. And we see the standard response of half the city panic buying while the other half try to flee This is actually a textbook response and is perfect. It maybe could have been done last night starting today that’s all.
What it does is put a lid on this thing and buys time to establish where the infections have been started and will give them time to ramp up contact tracing before it blows out of sight.
Good response. Australia has a suppression strategy, not an elimination strategy. There is 1 fucking case and by the time they get contact tracers out over the next 48 hours they might find 2 or 3. Big deal The situation is far from dire I dont think you understand how impractical it is for every major region to yoyo in and out of lockdown everytime there is a case. We have seen this with Melbourne, Adelaide, Sydney and now Brisbane. 4 major lockdowns in a 2 month period, with an estimated 12 months before our circumstances change Panic buying, economic hardship, closures, disruptions to life and sport, inconsistency, fatigue, mental health issues etc...etc...etc... We have never been in a situation where 1 case has been deemed too overwhelming and worthy of keeping things in check until contact tracers get on top of things. Australia has changed tact and it is the furthest thing from a good response For 9 months as a Victorian I have been waiting for the day we catch up to the other states. It has become increasingly apparent we're at the standard and you guys are going to come to us Fuckwit after Fuckwit posting their ignorance and hatred. Never seen somebody narrate their own posting before Can you take your fake expertise on this somewhere else?
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bluebird2
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+x+x+x+x+x+x+xHilarious. One case in 113 days and known to have come from overseas quarantine. What to do? Do we stop people bringing the virus back to Australia? - No, international flights still coming in - bring it on. But let's shutdown a city of 3 million people. Better still - let's tell people they will be in mortal danger after 6pm tonight so that shopping centres are totally packed for the next 6 hours!! But the virus was apparently not contagious yesterday when they first knew of this and in fact is only contagious after 6pm tonight so all good. The good news is this highly contagious virus strain that is an extreme risk is only going to be so for 3 days Australia have really lost the plot with its response. Ever since the Victorian outbreak, overcautious haphazard rules have become the normal The WHO specifically said lockdowns arent a mechanism for beating the virus and only serve the purpose of buying time so regions overwhelmed by large numbers have time to get their resources in check. But what do they know? 1 fucking case and a major city is shut down. And we see the standard response of half the city panic buying while the other half try to flee This is actually a textbook response and is perfect. It maybe could have been done last night starting today that’s all.
What it does is put a lid on this thing and buys time to establish where the infections have been started and will give them time to ramp up contact tracing before it blows out of sight.
Good response. Australia has a suppression strategy, not an elimination strategy. There is 1 fucking case and by the time they get contact tracers out over the next 48 hours they might find 2 or 3. Big deal The situation is far from dire I dont think you understand how impractical it is for every major region to yoyo in and out of lockdown everytime there is a case. We have seen this with Melbourne, Adelaide, Sydney and now Brisbane. 4 major lockdowns in a 2 month period, with an estimated 12 months before our circumstances change Panic buying, economic hardship, closures, disruptions to life and sport, inconsistency, fatigue, mental health issues etc...etc...etc... We have never been in a situation where 1 case has been deemed too overwhelming and worthy of keeping things in check until contact tracers get on top of things. Australia has changed tact and it is the furthest thing from a good response For 9 months as a Victorian I have been waiting for the day we catch up to the other states. It has become increasingly apparent we're at the standard and you guys are going to come to us Fuckwit after Fuckwit posting their ignorance and hatred. Never seen somebody narrate their own posting before Can you take your fake expertise on this somewhere else? Write down the opinion I'm allowed to have and I'll sign to it
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+x+x+x+x+xHilarious. One case in 113 days and known to have come from overseas quarantine. What to do? Do we stop people bringing the virus back to Australia? - No, international flights still coming in - bring it on. But let's shutdown a city of 3 million people. Better still - let's tell people they will be in mortal danger after 6pm tonight so that shopping centres are totally packed for the next 6 hours!! But the virus was apparently not contagious yesterday when they first knew of this and in fact is only contagious after 6pm tonight so all good. The good news is this highly contagious virus strain that is an extreme risk is only going to be so for 3 days Australia have really lost the plot with its response. Ever since the Victorian outbreak, overcautious haphazard rules have become the normal The WHO specifically said lockdowns arent a mechanism for beating the virus and only serve the purpose of buying time so regions overwhelmed by large numbers have time to get their resources in check. But what do they know? 1 fucking case and a major city is shut down. And we see the standard response of half the city panic buying while the other half try to flee This is actually a textbook response and is perfect. It maybe could have been done last night starting today that’s all.
What it does is put a lid on this thing and buys time to establish where the infections have been started and will give them time to ramp up contact tracing before it blows out of sight.
Good response. Australia has a suppression strategy, not an elimination strategy. There is 1 fucking case and by the time they get contact tracers out over the next 48 hours they might find 2 or 3. Big deal The situation is far from dire I dont think you understand how impractical it is for every major region to yoyo in and out of lockdown everytime there is a case. We have seen this with Melbourne, Adelaide, Sydney and now Brisbane. 4 major lockdowns in a 2 month period, with an estimated 12 months before our circumstances change Panic buying, economic hardship, closures, disruptions to life and sport, inconsistency, fatigue, mental health issues etc...etc...etc... We have never been in a situation where 1 case has been deemed too overwhelming and worthy of keeping things in check until contact tracers get on top of things. Australia has changed tact and it is the furthest thing from a good response For 9 months as a Victorian I have been waiting for the day we catch up to the other states. It has become increasingly apparent we're at the standard and you guys are going to come to us Fuckwit after Fuckwit posting their ignorance and hatred. Absolutely no respect for the familys of the 820 Victorians who died of Covid in the last uncontrolled outbreak. No respect for the pain and suffering of millions of Victorians that stood and followed the rules and brought that horror to a halt. Now we face a new and greater threat from a new direction and the callous pieces of shit want to see more death and suffering because somehow a game of football is important. Even the Trumpist simp that is the Nation's Prime Minister gets it: 'This isn't any ordinary strain'"I know they will be some in Brisbane today asking 'why is this necessary? There is only one case. '" said Prime Minster Scott Morrison."Well, this isn't any ordinary case."This is a very special case and one that requires us to treat things quite differently until we know more and we will learn much in the next few days. "What Queenslanders will be doing over the next few days, they will be doing not just for themselves and their own communities, but for the rest of the country. "So again, I thank you for the patience you will have to show in relation to disruption, we know it causes disruption. But we're also quite short that it is the prudent course action given the circumstances. This is important to note. The approach Queensland is taking is the approach that was agreed by the AHPPC if a case of the new UK variant was out and about in the community. The three days gives the contact tracers a lot of time to find out where close contacts have been and put the necessary people in isolation.
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+x+x+x+x+x+xHilarious. One case in 113 days and known to have come from overseas quarantine. What to do? Do we stop people bringing the virus back to Australia? - No, international flights still coming in - bring it on. But let's shutdown a city of 3 million people. Better still - let's tell people they will be in mortal danger after 6pm tonight so that shopping centres are totally packed for the next 6 hours!! But the virus was apparently not contagious yesterday when they first knew of this and in fact is only contagious after 6pm tonight so all good. The good news is this highly contagious virus strain that is an extreme risk is only going to be so for 3 days Australia have really lost the plot with its response. Ever since the Victorian outbreak, overcautious haphazard rules have become the normal The WHO specifically said lockdowns arent a mechanism for beating the virus and only serve the purpose of buying time so regions overwhelmed by large numbers have time to get their resources in check. But what do they know? 1 fucking case and a major city is shut down. And we see the standard response of half the city panic buying while the other half try to flee This is actually a textbook response and is perfect. It maybe could have been done last night starting today that’s all.
What it does is put a lid on this thing and buys time to establish where the infections have been started and will give them time to ramp up contact tracing before it blows out of sight.
Good response. Australia has a suppression strategy, not an elimination strategy. There is 1 fucking case and by the time they get contact tracers out over the next 48 hours they might find 2 or 3. Big deal The situation is far from dire I dont think you understand how impractical it is for every major region to yoyo in and out of lockdown everytime there is a case. We have seen this with Melbourne, Adelaide, Sydney and now Brisbane. 4 major lockdowns in a 2 month period, with an estimated 12 months before our circumstances change Panic buying, economic hardship, closures, disruptions to life and sport, inconsistency, fatigue, mental health issues etc...etc...etc... We have never been in a situation where 1 case has been deemed too overwhelming and worthy of keeping things in check until contact tracers get on top of things. Australia has changed tact and it is the furthest thing from a good response For 9 months as a Victorian I have been waiting for the day we catch up to the other states. It has become increasingly apparent we're at the standard and you guys are going to come to us Fuckwit after Fuckwit posting their ignorance and hatred. Absolutely no respect for the familys of the 820 Victorians who died of Covid in the last uncontrolled outbreak. No respect for the pain and suffering of millions of Victorians that stood and followed the rules and brought that horror to a halt. Now we face a new and greater threat from a new direction and the callous pieces of shit want to see more death and suffering because somehow a game of football is important. Even the Trumpist simp that is the Nation's Prime Minister gets it: 'This isn't any ordinary strain'"I know they will be some in Brisbane today asking 'why is this necessary? There is only one case. '" said Prime Minster Scott Morrison."Well, this isn't any ordinary case."This is a very special case and one that requires us to treat things quite differently until we know more and we will learn much in the next few days. "What Queenslanders will be doing over the next few days, they will be doing not just for themselves and their own communities, but for the rest of the country. "So again, I thank you for the patience you will have to show in relation to disruption, we know it causes disruption. But we're also quite short that it is the prudent course action given the circumstances. This is important to note. The approach Queensland is taking is the approach that was agreed by the AHPPC if a case of the new UK variant was out and about in the community. The three days gives the contact tracers a lot of time to find out where close contacts have been and put the necessary people in isolation. One of the problems with the haphazard lockdowns, restrictions and rules we have seen over the last few months is they become indistinguishable to the general public as to which lockdowns are for fun and which ones are warranted. Like Victorians being mandated to wear masks in all situations for 35 consecutive days without a case, and being thrown back into them because of 3 generation 1 passes to known contacts People get weary, skeptical and upset over the constant needless hardship and over reaction. You honestly cant blame people for getting emotional and see this as "yet again another fucking lockdown" If this was a pre planned purposeful agreement that met a threshold then I apologise. I accept I was wrong on this point at least But the broader premise of my view point stands. Australia need to get a handle on this because there is more to this virus than lockdown and masks. Every single measure, rule and law needs to be backed by substantial medical science and only implemented if it is proven to have a significant effect on driving numbers downwards If Queensland need 3 days and they have been given 3 days as part of a prior approved agreement then lets see how this unfolds. If this just sets the precedent for lockdowns every time we see the new strain, of which there are already half a dozen in Victorian hotel rooms, then Australia are playing a dangerous game with a public that is currently 90% compliant
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These border closures, these state leaders doing what they want because its a pissant constitution ofcourse, has ripped the A League a new one. So, from me to the leaders, eat shit and get diarrhea mongrels! That Alsatian with three chins from Qld would Not do this while State of Origin is on. Do-gooder on this site goodbye, don't post again, not interested in the closures and whats good for me.
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Fair play by bluebird he/she explains themselves well and doesn’t get caught up in the emotion of it.
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So..... For all those who feel/believe the steps taken currently is overboard/overreacting due to the current extreme low number of case(s), what is YOUR magic number of cases (and/or deaths) before you believe that these types of steps should be activated/taken by the government(s)??
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+xSo..... For all those who feel/believe the steps taken currently is overboard/overreacting due to the current extreme low number of case(s), what is YOUR magic number of cases (and/or deaths) before you believe that these types of steps should be activated/taken by the government(s)?? This isnt about numbers and statistics Australia has a suppression approach. There are 22 million cases world wide bombarding our shorelines every day. Having some enter the community is inevitable, even the new strain, or which there are already 6 in Victoria (by last count I read). We have to learn to live with this. Thats the reality of it. With the strict quarantine measures we have in place, compliance on social distancing and hygiene, awareness programs, compliance with isolation, and small numbers allowing contact tracing, we'll never be in a position we are overrun by this (one botched outbreak aside which was the exception, not the rule). We saw 50 cases in Adelaide, about 180 in Sydney, currently 1 in Brisbane. We saw about 30 or 40 in Tasmania at one stage. Not devastating stuff The majority (more than half) of cases are asymptomatic which means by the time the patient presents it is already too late. It has been bubbling around for 1-2 weeks and may have passed 2-3 generations. But it is not too late to contact trace, send messages of awareness, and get on top of things before hospital systems are overwhelmed. We cant stop it, but we can control it. Thats why we have a suppression approach I dont think people here appreciate how difficult they are making life for people by throwing borders shut on a whim, throwing people into lockdown on a whim, rule after rule, restriction after restriction, not even waiting a day to see if things are effective before trying something else. The response is being driven by panic, fear and politics. It is not practical to bounce in and out of complete disruption. The cure can't be worse than the disease and whatever is going on overseas, we shut our borders for a reason If I had to put a "magic" number on it, I'd say 5 unrelated* infected households in a region is declared a hot spot. Restrictions should be containment (nobody allowed to leave or enter without a permit) and reduction of upper threshold of numbers only. As for a definition of an outbreak, it has to be an uncontrollable number of community transmission (stranger to stranger) This virus move slowly. There is a good 2-3 weeks after the last case before we can say it is definitively eliminated. Rules and restrictions for 5-6 weeks at a time simply isnt sustainable. QLD is in a prepare to act stage. Nothing more *any friends, family, work mates or close contacts - predictable people who are likely to be called into isolation as with Victoria's latest - is a related household and a count of 1
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+x+xSo..... For all those who feel/believe the steps taken currently is overboard/overreacting due to the current extreme low number of case(s), what is YOUR magic number of cases (and/or deaths) before you believe that these types of steps should be activated/taken by the government(s)?? This isnt about numbers and statistics Australia has a suppression approach. There are 22 million cases world wide bombarding our shorelines every day. Having some enter the community is inevitable, even the new strain, or which there are already 6 in Victoria (by last count I read). We have to learn to live with this. Thats the reality of it. With the strict quarantine measures we have in place, compliance on social distancing and hygiene, awareness programs, compliance with isolation, and small numbers allowing contact tracing, we'll never be in a position we are overrun by this (one botched outbreak aside which was the exception, not the rule). We saw 50 cases in Adelaide, about 180 in Sydney, currently 1 in Brisbane. We saw about 30 or 40 in Tasmania at one stage. Not devastating stuff The majority (more than half) of cases are asymptomatic which means by the time the patient presents it is already too late. It has been bubbling around for 1-2 weeks and may have passed 2-3 generations. But it is not too late to contact trace, send messages of awareness, and get on top of things before hospital systems are overwhelmed. We cant stop it, but we can control it. Thats why we have a suppression approach I dont think people here appreciate how difficult they are making life for people by throwing borders shut on a whim, throwing people into lockdown on a whim, rule after rule, restriction after restriction, not even waiting a day to see if things are effective before trying something else. The response is being driven by panic, fear and politics. It is not practical to bounce in and out of complete disruption. The cure can't be worse than the disease and whatever is going on overseas, we shut our borders for a reason If I had to put a "magic" number on it, I'd say 5 unrelated infected households in a region is declared a hot spot. Restrictions should be containment (nobody allowed to leave or enter without a permit) and reduction of upper threshold of numbers only. As for a definition of an outbreak, it has to be an uncontrollable number of community transmission (stranger to stranger) This virus move slowly. There is a good 2-3 weeks after the last case before we can say it is definitively eliminated. Rules and restrictions for 5-6 weeks at a time simply isnt sustainable. QLD is in a prepare to act stage. Nothing more Single figures in cases, go away, another match taken away. Three chins is determined to keep ambushing my sport. Sell your story to the leftie ABC.
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Apart from the game getting postponed, how is any of this related to Football or the Roar v Victory game? Yeah that's right, nothing. Keep the comments on here to football related discussion - there's plenty of other places where you can have a sook & crap on about politics
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+xApart from the game getting postponed, how is any of this related to Football or the Roar v Victory game? Yeah that's right, nothing. Keep the comments on here to football related discussion - there's plenty of other places where you can have a sook & crap on about politics The game got postponed did you know or what? That other post had too much detail, yes.
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This has nothing to do with the game, but corona chat is here. My friend got a call from Vic Health telling them to isolate, because of a supposed contact 16 days before! WTF. Also no info on what or who was the contact. Does this sound right?
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+xThis has nothing to do with the game, but corona chat is here. My friend got a call from Vic Health telling them to isolate, because of a supposed contact 16 days before! WTF. Also no info on what or who was the contact. Does this sound right? Oh, but it has everything to do with the game, the fact the match got postponed on a whim. What you found out, 16 days might be alright.
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+xSo..... For all those who feel/believe the steps taken currently is overboard/overreacting due to the current extreme low number of case(s), what is YOUR magic number of cases (and/or deaths) before you believe that these types of steps should be activated/taken by the government(s)?? Contact tracing has been established to deal with small numbers of cases. It was successfully used in Brisbane when we had tens of cases, in SA, and in NSW. But now a single case is enough to lockdown 3 million people. Lockdowns should be used when numbers are still increasing despite contact tracing efforts. What’s your number for coming out of lockdown on Tuesday or ever? 0? 1? 2? Clearly 1 case in 113 days is not sufficiently low enough or we wouldn’t be in lockdown now?
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New lockdown is a joke
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bluebird2
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+x+xSo..... For all those who feel/believe the steps taken currently is overboard/overreacting due to the current extreme low number of case(s), what is YOUR magic number of cases (and/or deaths) before you believe that these types of steps should be activated/taken by the government(s)?? What’s your number for coming out of lockdown
This is the part people dont realise. Yes lockdowns can be a bit of a laugh but there is no threshold for ending them Take Victoria for example: Threshold for going into lockdown - 50 cases a day. Threshold for coming out of lockdown - complete elimination. Penalty for outbreak - being fined for not wearing a mask for the duration of the pandemic And lockdowns as a precaution like what we have now are worse because there is always an element of risk and uncertainty As I said, this virus takes shape slowly. You need 28 days of no transmission to be sure this particular outbreak has been beaten. Now let me explain the significance of the words in bold: Melbourne had an outbreak late October, Adelaide had one mid November, Sydney had one mid December, and now Brisbane may be facing one. There are 22 million cases worldwide and the outbreaks we are having as a result are increasing Now if the response is going to be a standard 5-6 weeks of precautionary hardship then Australia, like Victoria, will be in a permanent state of heavy handed rules, restrictions and regulations. By the time the lockdown rules have finished the state is ready for the next one. Victoria had 3 weeks of freedom before our "2021 like no other" promises were taken away from us in fear that 3 contacts sitting in isolation would turn us into America Australia has lost its grip on this thing. We're not like other countries where they are dealing with thousands of cases each day, constant introductions of patient zeroes, hundreds of dead each day, non compliance, chaos etc... We have a simple cycle of quarantine to cut out 99.99% of infections, small outbreaks, contact tracing to manage it, and precautionary social distancing and hygiene practices for the public If the response doesnt match the risk people will simply overreact to match the energy of the decision makers like we have seen with panic buying and fleeing, or stop complying like we saw during the Melbourne outbreak
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Victoria closing their borders to people travelling from greater Brisbane, I wouldn't expect this game to be held in the next week now.
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The person who “travelled widely on public transport” with this new super-fast spreading virus has so far failed to pass it on to anyone ... a week later. No. cases in Brisbane today = ZERO (same as yesterday) No. cases in Brisbane in last 115 days = 1 No. People in lockdown = 2,000,000+
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+xThe person who “travelled widely on public transport” with this new super-fast spreading virus has so far failed to pass it on to anyone ... a week later. No. cases in Brisbane today = ZERO (same as yesterday) No. cases in Brisbane in last 115 days = 1 No. People in lockdown = 2,000,000+
I think people tend to forget we have a good system in place for stopping this from spreading before we even know its there. Its not too much to think the rule makers will have faith in their own systems
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+xThe person who “travelled widely on public transport” with this new super-fast spreading virus has so far failed to pass it on to anyone ... a week later. No. cases in Brisbane today = ZERO (same as yesterday) No. cases in Brisbane in last 115 days = 1 No. People in lockdown = 2,000,000+
How many times has your house burnt down?
My house has never burnt down .... but I still have house insurance.
This lockdown is insurance.
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3 day lockdown to prevent a much longer lockdown later
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+x+xThe person who “travelled widely on public transport” with this new super-fast spreading virus has so far failed to pass it on to anyone ... a week later. No. cases in Brisbane today = ZERO (same as yesterday) No. cases in Brisbane in last 115 days = 1 No. People in lockdown = 2,000,000+
How many times has your house burnt down?
My house has never burnt down .... but I still have house insurance.
This lockdown is insurance.
Are you sure three days lockdown is enough Waz? Perhaps we just should never go out again ... that’s the safest option. Insurance is why we have quarantine, testing plus contact tracing. This lockdown is more like you having house insurance but then never cooking or lighting a candle in your house ... just in case your house burns down. I suppose you’re all for wearing masks inside your car when driving alone ... just in case, right?
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+x+xThe person who “travelled widely on public transport” with this new super-fast spreading virus has so far failed to pass it on to anyone ... a week later. No. cases in Brisbane today = ZERO (same as yesterday) No. cases in Brisbane in last 115 days = 1 No. People in lockdown = 2,000,000+
How many times has your house burnt down?
My house has never burnt down .... but I still have house insurance.
This lockdown is insurance. Do you pack up your stuff and your family each night and evacuate? Becuase if you did, in the event there is a fire, you'll stand a much better chance Insurance doesnt stop your house from burning down. It gives you money in the event it does If you're talking about a physical emergency response being undertaken by the general population then it has to be tied to an active threat If lockdown is an insurance, and insurance is warranted, then it should be permanent. because the point being made is the risk today for Brisbane is the same as it was over 100 days ago, and the same as it will be 100 days from now
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literally people all over the world hoping their governments were as strong as ours in having the balls to go into hard lockdowns. Some people don't realise how lucky we are. The US is on fire, the UK is on fire. Why? because they didn't do enough to eliminate the tinder, we are eliminating the tinder and any other form of flammables.
You wouldn't live in a burning house and then realise, should i get the hose now, or should I wait until it's in my bedroom? Do the hard yards until we get a functioning vaccine, then we can start harping on about how many numbers is too much for a lockdown.
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+xliterally people all over the world hoping their governments were as strong as ours in having the balls to go into hard lockdowns.
If there really are people wishing this, why wouldn’t they simply go into their own hard lockdown? Or are you suggesting that these governments are mandating that people leave their homes or not wear masks? If I thought I needed to keep my family locked down I would not wait for the government to tell me to do it. Is this what society has become? Seriously?
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+xliterally people all over the world hoping their governments were as strong as ours in having the balls to go into hard lockdowns. Some people don't realise how lucky we are. The US is on fire, the UK is on fire. Why? because they didn't do enough to eliminate the tinder, we are eliminating the tinder and any other form of flammables. You wouldn't live in a burning house and then realise, should i get the hose now, or should I wait until it's in my bedroom? Do the hard yards until we get a functioning vaccine, then we can start harping on about how many numbers is too much for a lockdown. That simply isnt true: 1/ Australia has quarantine at the border where as other countries dont. This means we dont have a continual influx of patient zeroes 2/ Australia has regulated social distancing nationwide with an estimated 90% compliance which is enough for our low viral activity To say that the other countries can beat the virus by lockdown is naive. The minute a country comes out of lockdown they are simply hit by another wave and thrown back into it. The situation other countries are in you simply cannot fathom and it doesnt change for another 12 months. To say this can be beaten by rules and nagging is an insult and implies their leaders are simply watching their citizens dies because they dont have a red panic button Australia simply doesnt have the viral activity to warrant the response some people are demanding. Like ClockworkOrange said, this woman was on the same magic carpet ride tour of the state that everybody with the virus seems to take and not a single person infected. We have a system that eliminates the virus that other countries simply dont have the luxury of Once we destroy compliance with non-sensical or heavy handed laws then all we are left with is quarantine and prayer books
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+xYou wouldn't live in a burning house and then realise, should i get the hose now, or should I wait until it's in my bedroom? You mean like you wouldn’t have people working in a quarantine hotel, but let them catch public transport to and from work ... oh, wait. The people that thought this was a great system are the very same people who have decreed that for your own safety you need to wear a mask while driving by yourself. Hilarious. You couldn’t make this up.
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+x+xliterally people all over the world hoping their governments were as strong as ours in having the balls to go into hard lockdowns.
If there really are people wishing this, why wouldn’t they simply go into their own hard lockdown? Or are you suggesting that these governments are mandating that people leave their homes or not wear masks? The people who are hoping for that probably are. And no. Quite obviously. I think the majority of people know why these places have found it difficult to stem the flow, if you don't, I can only suggest some catching up of current affairs.
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+x+x+xliterally people all over the world hoping their governments were as strong as ours in having the balls to go into hard lockdowns.
If there really are people wishing this, why wouldn’t they simply go into their own hard lockdown? Or are you suggesting that these governments are mandating that people leave their homes or not wear masks? The people who are hoping for that probably are. And no. Quite obviously. I think the majority of people know why these places have found it difficult to stem the flow, if you don't, I can only suggest some catching up of current affairs. Question: do you think we should automatically go into hard lockdown every time there is a single COVID case say in the next two years?
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