Controversial penalties cost Mariners [Comments]


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Inside Sport Bot - 20 Feb 2021 3:39 AM

An shit ref and/or a rigged ref cost Mariners.
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First and second were never penalties. Under the new rules,the third one was a penalty. Conclusion : Mariners were robbed.
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As  i  said  on on  another  post  I  knowpeople  who said they will  N.e.v.e.r  Ever  watch  the  Aleague  again  after  This
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Remote Control - 20 Feb 2021 1:07 PM
As  i  said  on on  another  post  I  knowpeople  who said they will  N.e.v.e.r  Ever  watch  the  Aleague  again  after  This

Fair weather fans. Good riddance.

crap decisions happen all over the world but fans don’t walk away from football. 
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You  cant  blame  them   They  said  itwas  like  watch   U7's game
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Remote Control - 20 Feb 2021 1:36 PM
You  cant  blame  them   They  said  itwas  like  watch   U7's game

You write like an u7 now eff off
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Remote Control - 20 Feb 2021 1:36 PM
You  cant  blame  them   They  said  itwas  like  watch   U7's game

Happens all over the world. this is sport.

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Maybe Mariners should have scored more goals.................
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WSF - 20 Feb 2021 1:43 PM
Maybe Mariners should have scored more goals.................

Like the wanderers are doing ATM.
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Coverdale - 20 Feb 2021 1:40 PM
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You write like an u7 now eff off

sorry i now  my typing  is is not sogood  some  time s  sorry  for that  but  I do mybest  pleasse be  tolerant its  not nice be  rude  to other  people  thankyou
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Not one of the penalties given was a penalty for me.

1. Tonyik attempt to genuinely win the ball but misses and withdraws his leg, the ball is clearly gone and it is out of Mauk's reach and is going further away from the goal and because of this there is no obstruction, there is no contact and Mauk clearly dives.

2. Mauk is the one grabbing Nisbets arm and is one of the oldest tricks in the book, Mauk is clearly trying to pull Nisbet into him and down to try and win a penalty and the referee was sucked in.

3. The Adelaide player shoots at goal and the ball hits Rowles in the shin before going hitting  Rowles in the hand and head and because it hit Rowles in the shin first before going onto hit his hand and head it is no penalty.
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Footballfirst - 20 Feb 2021 1:56 PM
Not one of the penalties given was a penalty for me.

1. Tonyik attempt to genuinely win the ball but misses and withdraws his leg, the ball is clearly gone and it is out of Mauk's reach and is going further away from the goal and because of this there is no obstruction, there is no contact and Mauk clearly dives.

2. Mauk is the one grabbing Nisbets arm and is one of the oldest tricks in the book, Mauk is clearly trying to pull Nisbet into him and down to try and win a penalty and the referee was sucked in.

3. The Adelaide player shoots at goal and the ball hits Rowles in the shin before going hitting  Rowles in the hand and head and because it hit Rowles in the shin first before going onto hit his hand and head it is no penalty.

Third was is a penalty. It’s as clear as day in the rules 
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Waz - 20 Feb 2021 2:32 PM
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Third was is a penalty. It’s as clear as day in the rules 

The A-League uses the IFAB interpretation as was explained at the beginning of the season to every player and coach. Their take and what was explained at the beginning of the season

So should a penalty be given every time the ball hits a player's hand in the area?

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There is an exemption if the ball hits a player's arm directly from the player's own head or body

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Strebre's take - 

It’s important to come out and people to understand where we’re coming from - we got it wrong, we made an error and we’re human,” he said.
“We’ll coach the referees through that and we want to see the improvement there. Apart from one or two decisions this year, we’ve been good.”
Delovski said referee Adam Fielding was wrong to call the first penalty, because Mauk initiated contact with Central Coast defender Ruon Tongyik while contesting the ball.
Kurt Ams, the video assistant referee, was also wrong to not call Fielding to the sideline for a review of the decision.
“The defender has done nothing wrong, he just stands there, and the Adelaide attacker is the one that initiates the contact,” Delovski said. “We are coaching our [VAR] guys to keep a high bar of level of intervention ... but the VAR has interpreted it incorrectly.”
Fielding should also not have blown for the second penalty, Delovski said. Josh Nisbet was pinged for dragging down Mauk with his arm - but because both players were holding each other, the VAR was right to not step in.
“It would have been better if we played on,” he said. “From a VAR point of view ... there is holding from both players, including the Central Coast player, this is normal contact, so those are the facts and those facts are not clearly wrong.”
As for the third penalty, which gave Adelaide the lead in the 85th minute after a VAR intervention, the decision to ping Kye Rowles for handball was correct and in line with the current interpretation of the rule because the ball deflected onto his hand, which was in an “unnatural position”, Delovski said.

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patjennings - 20 Feb 2021 2:42 PM
Waz - 20 Feb 2021 2:32 PM

The A-League uses the IFAB interpretation as was explained at the beginning of the season to every player and coach. Their take and what was explained at the beginning of the season

So should a penalty be given every time the ball hits a player's hand in the area?

Includes:- 
There is an exemption if the ball hits a player's arm directly from the player's own head or body

Edit

Strebre's take - 

It’s important to come out and people to understand where we’re coming from - we got it wrong, we made an error and we’re human,” he said.
“We’ll coach the referees through that and we want to see the improvement there. Apart from one or two decisions this year, we’ve been good.”
Delovski said referee Adam Fielding was wrong to call the first penalty, because Mauk initiated contact with Central Coast defender Ruon Tongyik while contesting the ball.
Kurt Ams, the video assistant referee, was also wrong to not call Fielding to the sideline for a review of the decision.
“The defender has done nothing wrong, he just stands there, and the Adelaide attacker is the one that initiates the contact,” Delovski said. “We are coaching our [VAR] guys to keep a high bar of level of intervention ... but the VAR has interpreted it incorrectly.”
Fielding should also not have blown for the second penalty, Delovski said. Josh Nisbet was pinged for dragging down Mauk with his arm - but because both players were holding each other, the VAR was right to not step in.
“It would have been better if we played on,” he said. “From a VAR point of view ... there is holding from both players, including the Central Coast player, this is normal contact, so those are the facts and those facts are not clearly wrong.”
As for the third penalty, which gave Adelaide the lead in the 85th minute after a VAR intervention, the decision to ping Kye Rowles for handball was correct and in line with the current interpretation of the rule because the ball deflected onto his hand, which was in an “unnatural position”, Delovski said.

So the Mariners win 2-1 🤨
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I would prefer a 2-2 draw and no VAR. We obviously cannot do it properly in Australia so get rid of it and let the natural flow of the game happen. 
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patjennings - 20 Feb 2021 2:42 PM
Waz - 20 Feb 2021 2:32 PM

The A-League uses the IFAB interpretation as was explained at the beginning of the season to every player and coach. Their take and what was explained at the beginning of the season

So should a penalty be given every time the ball hits a player's hand in the area?

Includes:- 
There is an exemption if the ball hits a player's arm directly from the player's own head or body

Edit

Strebre's take - 

It’s important to come out and people to understand where we’re coming from - we got it wrong, we made an error and we’re human,” he said.
“We’ll coach the referees through that and we want to see the improvement there. Apart from one or two decisions this year, we’ve been good.”
Delovski said referee Adam Fielding was wrong to call the first penalty, because Mauk initiated contact with Central Coast defender Ruon Tongyik while contesting the ball.
Kurt Ams, the video assistant referee, was also wrong to not call Fielding to the sideline for a review of the decision.
“The defender has done nothing wrong, he just stands there, and the Adelaide attacker is the one that initiates the contact,” Delovski said. “We are coaching our [VAR] guys to keep a high bar of level of intervention ... but the VAR has interpreted it incorrectly.”
Fielding should also not have blown for the second penalty, Delovski said. Josh Nisbet was pinged for dragging down Mauk with his arm - but because both players were holding each other, the VAR was right to not step in.
“It would have been better if we played on,” he said. “From a VAR point of view ... there is holding from both players, including the Central Coast player, this is normal contact, so those are the facts and those facts are not clearly wrong.”
As for the third penalty, which gave Adelaide the lead in the 85th minute after a VAR intervention, the decision to ping Kye Rowles for handball was correct and in line with the current interpretation of the rule because the ball deflected onto his hand, which was in an “unnatural position”, Delovski said.

I don’t think the new handball rules have helped, we’re in to the second season of them now and I don’t think it’s any easier than it was before. 

At our club the coaches get a Referees briefing on both rule changes and importantly, what referees have been guided to interpret. Granted I’m a few divisions below Staj but on what we are told the third one is a clear penalty (and it should be - the defenders hit his hand above his head and stops the ball going towards goal. I’d want a pen just for stupidity tbh) 

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Saw Bozanic get pinged for handball in the middle of the pitch when the ball hit him on his shoulder sleeve earlier this season - what should have been no handball under the new rules. The ref for some reason was reaching for his card and motioned it hit him on the sleeve. Ollie pointed out the rule and he didn't get a card (which was not warranted even if it was a handball). Handball stood - should have been a drop ball after the referee's mistake.

Again no VAR last night and it was a 2-2 draw and I could live with that a lot better than this second guessing that has all the time in the world and still gets it wrong. The refs will make mistakes - so what. Life isn't always fair - neither is football, But why ruin football with VAR. 
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