Spain v Olyroos player ratings


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https://www.sportingnews.com/au/football/news/olyroos-player-ratings-vs-spain-nathaniel-atkinson-set-to-attract-transfer-interest-after-masterclass-in-defeat/1r3jc41n66nl41h8nfd2lt3nx5
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higher for arzani for mine
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grazorblade - 26 Jul 2021 9:30 AM
higher for arzani for mine

Was interesting that Spain players tried to rattle him in first 5 minutes of game. Coaches orders?? Must have seen him against Argies and thought he could be attacking threat for Spain. Arzani should take it as a compliment from a top opposition imo. Wonder if Arzani gets any club Euro contract offers soon, but given his rotten run in Europe an AL return might do him world of good in the long run
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Balin Trev - 26 Jul 2021 10:22 AM
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Was interesting that Spain players tried to rattle him in first 5 minutes of game. Coaches orders?? Must have seen him against Argies and thought he could be attacking threat for Spain. Arzani should take it as a compliment from a top opposition imo. Wonder if Arzani gets any club Euro contract offers soon, but given his rotten run in Europe an AL return might do him world of good in the long run

he seemed to lift at the compliment

maybe his confidence has taken a hit
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Any rugby league fans remember "walker's on!" reminds me of that with arzani
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Atkinson was our best, alot of worked hard but he looked like the only one that looked comfortable out there against a world class opponent. 

Even he got a 6, I dont think King wasnt that bad in fact he defended well against Dani Olmo.
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Barca4Life - 26 Jul 2021 11:46 AM

Even he got a 6, I dont think King wasnt that bad in fact he defended well against Dani Olmo.

Disagree, he gave Olmo too much time and was not confident in possession. He's never played in a game like that at senior level, so it's unsurprising. He plays for Sydney where his average position would be at least 20m further upfield and they rarely have less of the ball 
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sportaddict - 26 Jul 2021 11:51 AM
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Disagree, he gave Olmo too much time and was not confident in possession. He's never played in a game like that at senior level, so it's unsurprising. He plays for Sydney where his average position would be at least 20m further upfield and they rarely have less of the ball 

Fair enough but Olmo didnt beat him once in a duel either so he didnt disgrace himself either.
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Barca4Life - 26 Jul 2021 12:38 PM
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Fair enough but Olmo didnt beat him once in a duel either so he didnt disgrace himself either.

he was dribbled past twice and lost 6 of his 10 duels
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sportaddict - 26 Jul 2021 12:54 PM
Barca4Life - 26 Jul 2021 12:38 PM

he was dribbled past twice and lost 6 of his 10 duels

Ok thanks for the clarification. 
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Barca4Life - 26 Jul 2021 1:01 PM
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Ok thanks for the clarification. 

In saying that stats are black and white as we all know.
I agree young King left too much room a few times or more so didn't read it (hard to beat one touch and movement like they did) as well But at the same time he recovered very well also.
Broke down the cross now and then or forced them playing back.
Almo is a brilliant player might I add.
Both our outside backs had top flankers to deal with plus add Pedri moving around.
Atko was great 1st half for me but once they changed putting that Gil his side that kid made alot of space for himself and attacked the flank making cross's and cut in a fair bit.

Talking about being dribbled by twice, I'd cop that compared to the nutty Arzani suffered mind you.
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Balin Trev - 26 Jul 2021 10:22 AM
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Was interesting that Spain players tried to rattle him in first 5 minutes of game. Coaches orders?? Must have seen him against Argies and thought he could be attacking threat for Spain. Arzani should take it as a compliment from a top opposition imo. Wonder if Arzani gets any club Euro contract offers soon, but given his rotten run in Europe an AL return might do him world of good in the long run

actually quite the opposite. probably tried to rattle him because he holds on possession for so long then turns it over. he's a press trigger because he gives them back the ball and holds the ball long enough for them to at on it. it's a pretty standard mo for pressing, to target the weakest link.

he's much like kruse but probably more costly in possession.  a couple flashy runs past opponents with zero end product.  his turnover rate would be amongst the worst in the team.  this was particularly bad v spain where we could not get any real possession.  he's too much of a luxury player to play in midfield and needs to be an outright wing in a front 3 - he doesnt really suit this formation.  

he did have a couple good moments though but crossed into no one in the box.  jmac would have ate that shit up.  i dont understand the duke inclusion at all, but that's another story.

 




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Barca4Life - 26 Jul 2021 11:46 AM
Atkinson was our best, alot of worked hard but he looked like the only one that looked comfortable out there against a world class opponent. 

Even he got a 6, I dont think King wasnt that bad in fact he defended well against Dani Olmo.

Really needed to not get himself rubbed out of the next match with 10 seconds to go. Aside from significantly reducing our chances of progression, the shop window is now closed for him if we go out. Dumb.

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grazorblade - 26 Jul 2021 10:27 AM
Any rugby league fans remember "walker's on!" reminds me of that with arzani

Which Walker? Andrew?
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Aljay - 26 Jul 2021 2:55 PM
grazorblade - 26 Jul 2021 10:27 AM

Which Walker? Andrew?

chris walker

was a confidence player
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Balin Trev - 26 Jul 2021 10:22 AM

actually quite the opposite. probably tried to rattle him because he holds on possession for so long then turns it over. he's a press trigger because he gives them back the ball and holds the ball long enough for them to at on it. it's a pretty standard mo for pressing, to target the weakest link.

he's much like kruse but probably more costly in possession.  a couple flashy runs past opponents with zero end product.  his turnover rate would be amongst the worst in the team.  this was particularly bad v spain where we could not get any real possession.  he's too much of a luxury player to play in midfield and needs to be an outright wing in a front 3 - he doesnt really suit this formation.  

he did have a couple good moments though but crossed into no one in the box.  jmac would have ate that shit up.  i dont understand the duke inclusion at all, but that's another story.

also reminds me of "walkers on"

Someone wanted to deflate Chris walker's ego by telling him that it was about his poor defence

Regardless he was our most threatening player. Would love to see him and tillio on at once
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inala brah - 26 Jul 2021 2:00 PM
Balin Trev - 26 Jul 2021 10:22 AM

actually quite the opposite. probably tried to rattle him because he holds on possession for so long then turns it over. he's a press trigger because he gives them back the ball and holds the ball long enough for them to at on it. it's a pretty standard mo for pressing, to target the weakest link.

he's much like kruse but probably more costly in possession.  a couple flashy runs past opponents with zero end product.  his turnover rate would be amongst the worst in the team.  this was particularly bad v spain where we could not get any real possession.  he's too much of a luxury player to play in midfield and needs to be an outright wing in a front 3 - he doesnt really suit this formation.  

he did have a couple good moments though but crossed into no one in the box.  jmac would have ate that shit up.  i dont understand the duke inclusion at all, but that's another story.

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phutbol - 26 Jul 2021 2:27 PM
Barca4Life - 26 Jul 2021 11:46 AM

Really needed to not get himself rubbed out of the next match with 10 seconds to go. Aside from significantly reducing our chances of progression, the shop window is now closed for him if we go out. Dumb.

Agree with this. I'm more disappointed about his suspension for the next match than about the loss to Spain. I think it makes it significantly more difficult to get a result against Egypt.
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grazorblade - 26 Jul 2021 3:16 PM
inala brah - 26 Jul 2021 2:00 PM

also reminds me of "walkers on"

Someone wanted to deflate Chris walker's ego by telling him that it was about his poor defence

Regardless he was our most threatening player. Would love to see him and tillio on at once

yeah id take better team structure and overall competence than one or two aimless hot flashes that end up just turning the ball over

he looks good to spectators though

 




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here you go

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inala brah - 26 Jul 2021 8:53 PM
grazorblade - 26 Jul 2021 3:16 PM

yeah id take better team structure and overall competence than one or two aimless hot flashes that end up just turning the ball over

he looks good to spectators though

If only you were coach of olyroos instead of Arnold- they could have whipped Spain 5-0 😉
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inala brah - 26 Jul 2021 8:53 PM
grazorblade - 26 Jul 2021 3:16 PM

yeah id take better team structure and overall competence than one or two aimless hot flashes that end up just turning the ball over

he looks good to spectators though

arzani had some pretty key defensive moments, and was the only one that created anything really until tillio and daggers came on
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No player got lower then a 6....I dont know what game you were watching....looking at these ratings you would think we won this match 2-nil

we played gallantly, but make no mistake we were played off the park...

Our Midfield never had any control, 27% possession, we had 2/0 shots to Spains 15/5 etc 

Just because we are playing superior opposition doesnt mean the 'player rating' get extra points. 

Not discrediting GA or the boys but these ratings are clearly 2 points too high for every player - if it Spain were rating our players they would give zero credit and simply say Australia parked the bus, rod their luck when we hit the bar but ultimately we broke though and the Australians offered nothing after going 1 down. 

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Haven't even read them.

Our obsession with defining players by what occurs in Europe  disturbs me - Atkinson.

Brenton Speed  is one of  the worst commentators in any sport. To constantly talk about players' club careers, and what is happening elsewhere away from  the game on view, is ludicrous.



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Decentric 2 - 29 Jul 2021 11:14 AM
Haven't even read them.

Our obsession with defining players by what occurs in Europe  disturbs me - Atkinson.

Brenton Speed  is one of  the worst commentators in any sport. To constantly talk about players' club careers, and what is happening elsewhere away from  the game on view, is ludicrous.



Yes agreed. We have a huge inferiority complex for some unknown reason. On another thread guy trying to tell me that none of our socceroos are good enough for celtic!! 
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Decentric 2 - 29 Jul 2021 11:14 AM
Haven't even read them.

Our obsession with defining players by what occurs in Europe  disturbs me - Atkinson.

Brenton Speed  is one of  the worst commentators in any sport. To constantly talk about players' club careers, and what is happening elsewhere away from  the game on view, is ludicrous.



I thought the same about Speed.... utterly shithouse, sounds like the local AFL/NRL bogan with a bunch of player profile notes infront of him and a "beginners guide to the offside rules" book for reference... Has he commentated soccer anywhere else before, he was appaling.
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