WCQ: Socceroos vs Japan | 24 March 2022


WCQ: Socceroos vs Japan | 24 March 2022

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Proud2BeCanberran - 22 Mar 2022 8:14 PM
GhostMutt - 22 Mar 2022 2:04 PM

Very few more players we could call upon with so many good players missing. Souttar, Irvine, Mooy, McGree and Rogic missing amongst Goodwin and Rukavytsya is nothing to sneeze at.

Absolulutely disgraceful by Melbourne City. A vital World Cup qualifier with many out due to Covid or injury and they won’t release Good so he can play an A League match.
you can blame Arnold for a lot of things but our playing pool is already weak enough. It’s not as though Curtis Good is irreplaceable . Piss poor by M C
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Footballking55 - 22 Mar 2022 7:37 PM

I wonder at the continued absence of Rukavystya in our set up. Arnie called him up last window, but didn't play him (or was it 5 minutes at the end), which is a poor reflection on his ability as a coach of the national team that he is unable to get our best and most in form striker to do a job for us.

Ruka isn’t vaccinated so can’t travel.

Even if he was, he’s definitely not our best striker and probably wouldn’t be in the squad anyway.
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sub007 - 22 Mar 2022 9:04 PM
Footballking55 - 22 Mar 2022 7:37 PM

Ruka isn’t vaccinated so can’t travel.

Even if he was, he’s definitely not our best striker and probably wouldn’t be in the squad anyway.

Who do you think is better than Ruka?
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Balin Trev - 22 Mar 2022 10:17 PM
sub007 - 22 Mar 2022 9:04 PM

Who do you think is better than Ruka?

Maclaren, Taggart, maybe even Duke.

There’s a reason why Ruka doesn’t have many caps and that’s because he doesn’t really contribute when he does get called up.
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johnszasz - 22 Mar 2022 6:04 PM
sub007 - 22 Mar 2022 5:37 PM

Makes sense and no one else really needs to come in now. Time is too short from abroad and they won't realistically play. Having Wilkinson's experience in the camp will be positive. 

We've already got enough experience in the squad, we needed game changers/ winners - we definitely didn't need 2 over 30 CBs added. I would've liked to have seen Lachlan Jackson get a chance - plays 90 mins every week for Suwon & Thurgate/ Valpato to replace Rogic. But we've got who we've got, so let's support them & hopefully they can pull off the unexpected 
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SoccerooFan - 23 Mar 2022 12:51 AM
johnszasz - 22 Mar 2022 6:04 PM

We've already got enough experience in the squad, we needed game changers/ winners - we definitely didn't need 2 over 30 CBs added. I would've liked to have seen Lachlan Jackson get a chance - plays 90 mins every week for Suwon & Thurgate/ Valpato to replace Rogic. But we've got who we've got, so let's support them & hopefully they can pull off the unexpected 

Jackson was Newcastle’s 4th choice CB a year ago. Just because he plays overseas, doesn’t mean he’s good.

Hell Alex Grant played in an ACL final and he was only a solid A-League level player.
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sub007 - 22 Mar 2022 11:15 PM
Balin Trev - 22 Mar 2022 10:17 PM

Maclaren, Taggart, maybe even Duke.

There’s a reason why Ruka doesn’t have many caps and that’s because he doesn’t really contribute when he does get called up.

Ruka only ever gets subbed on late despite being golden boot winner in Israel. Never starts?! so has never been given proper chance to show his quality imho
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razor7 - 22 Mar 2022 9:01 PM
Proud2BeCanberran - 22 Mar 2022 8:14 PM

Absolulutely disgraceful by Melbourne City. A vital World Cup qualifier with many out due to Covid or injury and they won’t release Good so he can play an A League match.
you can blame Arnold for a lot of things but our playing pool is already weak enough. It’s not as though Curtis Good is irreplaceable . Piss poor by M C

They need to win the league to get into the ACL next year, already have injuries in the backline, and four players out for Socceroos already already. I can understand why they don't want to lose him for two games and training just so he can sit on the bench for 180 minutes.

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Keeper66 - 22 Mar 2022 3:41 PM
banzai - 22 Mar 2022 2:30 PM

Maybe they don't have to release him but I think they should. Can you imagine an English club not releasing an English player before a crucial WC qualifier? (Or has that actually happened?) I mean, FFS, Arnold has had to resort to McGowan.

Other leagues don't play during international windows, so it's not so much of an issue. That said, yes, it's almost certainly actually happened.

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tomw - 23 Mar 2022 8:11 AM
razor7 - 22 Mar 2022 9:01 PM

They need to win the league to get into the ACL next year, already have injuries in the backline, and four players out for Socceroos already already. I can understand why they don't want to lose him for two games and training just so he can sit on the bench for 180 minutes.

Sains or Degenek get injured and he could be on the pitch after 5 minutes. Ridiculous argument
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SUTHERLANDBEAR - 22 Mar 2022 5:20 PM
banzai - 22 Mar 2022 2:30 PM

Why does this not happen ANYWHERE else in the world ?  Surely FIFA have to tell MCFC to either release him or he can't play .

Uhhh... FIFA made the rule that has let City refuse to release him.

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Whatrever the rules it's poor form. Clubs do not usually exercise these things for WCQ - especially crucial ones. 
Friendlies against Tonga is different. Dog act by the oil karnts on our patch
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tsf - 23 Mar 2022 10:02 AM
Whatrever the rules it's poor form. Clubs do not usually exercise these things for WCQ - especially crucial ones. 
Friendlies against Tonga is different. Dog act by the oil karnts on our patch

Its going to be really interesting how many Melbourne City players are allowed to play in the inevitable 3rd place qualifier against UAE ....... 
There would be blood in the streets if they tried this on in England or France, here its just ....... "meh, at least foreign teams are better than the old NSL clubs". 
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SUTHERLANDBEAR - 22 Mar 2022 5:10 PM
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You don't do irony much, do you ?

only if it rains on my wedding day or when I get a free ride when I'm already late...... :P
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Monoethnic Social Club - 23 Mar 2022 10:45 AM
tsf - 23 Mar 2022 10:02 AM

Its going to be really interesting how many Melbourne City players are allowed to play in the inevitable 3rd place qualifier against UAE ....... 
There would be blood in the streets if they tried this on in England or France, here its just ....... "meh, at least foreign teams are better than the old NSL clubs". 

I know Liverpool did it with Salah, but that was because he was not only going to miss through teh qualifying period but also a few weeks afterwards through having to quarantine. 

But yeah, I don't think if england had a do or die game they'd be happy 
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tsf - 23 Mar 2022 11:13 AM
Monoethnic Social Club - 23 Mar 2022 10:45 AM

I know Liverpool did it with Salah, but that was because he was not only going to miss through teh qualifying period but also a few weeks afterwards through having to quarantine. 

But yeah, I don't think if england had a do or die game they'd be happy 

Yeah I was more thinking if an England player was prevented from playing.... 
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tomw - 23 Mar 2022 8:17 AM
SUTHERLANDBEAR - 22 Mar 2022 5:20 PM

Uhhh... FIFA made the rule that has let City refuse to release him.

Not from what i read. The issue is that the A league club aren't controlled by by the FA anymore.
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Monoethnic Social Club - 23 Mar 2022 12:15 PM
tsf - 23 Mar 2022 11:13 AM

Yeah I was more thinking if an England player was prevented from playing.... 

yeah they'd riot 
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tsf - 23 Mar 2022 11:13 AM
Monoethnic Social Club - 23 Mar 2022 10:45 AM

I know Liverpool did it with Salah, but that was because he was not only going to miss through teh qualifying period but also a few weeks afterwards through having to quarantine. 

But yeah, I don't think if england had a do or die game they'd be happy 

Covid rules were different in that case.
Couldn't happen in England as the FA run the premier league.
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Understandable covid technicalities went against Salah and other africans etc might I add during those WC quali games.
No one would like it period depending their circumstances.......

The announcement follows Liverpool sending a letter to the Egyptian national team, stating that they would not be releasing Mohamed Salah for the matches anyway, due to Egypt still being a red-list country for the UK as the pandemic continues. If he doesn’t travel for the match against Angola, it is unlikely he will travel for Gabon, as well.
Salah is not the only player, as the league had announced that no player from a red-list country would be released to their national teams during the September and October international breaks, as they would be required to enter into a 10 day quarantine upon their return.

This local situation is pure MC selfishness.


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Maybe Good is going to JMac wedding 
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SUTHERLANDBEAR - 23 Mar 2022 12:16 PM
tomw - 23 Mar 2022 8:17 AM

Not from what i read. The issue is that the A league club aren't controlled by by the FA anymore.

Good wasn't selected in the initial extended Socceroos squad (apparently can list up to 50 players), so the club don't have to release him. It's a FIFA rule. 
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SoccerooFan - 22 Mar 2022 5:24 PM
What an absolute Trainwreck!!! I still don't know how Irvine plays 90 mins on the weekend and 2 days later mysteriously has Covid?!! I'm fully behind the team, but Arnold is a complete nufty - as if you replace probably our best AM with an over the hill CB?!!! Like WTF?!!! If he doesn't want to bring in Valpato, bring in Thurgate - he's probably the form CM in the comp & can pretty much play any position. I see Deni Juric played yesterday - why wasn't he in the squad?!! 

what is there to understand?

he played then caught the virus
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Well moment of truth is just hours away now.........
Heading out there around 5pm for a Ribs N Rump feed with the lads then to the stands.
Expected rain from this arvo, should be a slick pitch.
Anxious much.


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only if it rains on my wedding day or when I get a free ride when I'm already late...... :P

You and your 400 guests and your Chinese business partners etc etc. .. You are an ongoing work of online existentialism. 
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In London for visit. Having a beer now and can hopefully sleep through the build up. 9am start for me. Won't be having coffee. Hotel WiFi and vpn reliable. Shoot. Me. 
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any japanese players missing for tonight, or do they have a full squad to pick from? 

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Im calling it now we are going to get smashed 4-1, the only bright spot would be hopefully they throw GA the biggest fraud in Australian football with our hopes of going to Qatar out the window. 


Full disclosure: Would love to be wrong! 

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Davstar - 24 Mar 2022 9:39 AM
Im calling it now we are going to get smashed 4-1, the only bright spot would be hopefully they throw GA the biggest fraud in Australian football with our hopes of going to Qatar out the window. 


Full disclosure: Would love to be wrong! 

Very nervous, expecting to get done over, but as you say, love to be proved wrong. Would love fro Fornirolli to get a couple. How many squads has Stensness been in? He's yet to play a minute I think, and Arnie made a big song and dance about bringing him in. Sums up this series.
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