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My god you are so stupid it hurts.
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In the Pfizer vaccine trials, Phase 1 had 195 rather brave people. Usually, after that comes Phase 2 followed by Phase 3. But because of “Operation Warpspeed”, these were combined into Phase 2/3. At page 15 of the protocol for the trials, Phase 3 was designed to have a total 43,998 participants (21,999 vaccine recipients, the rest being placebos), but the Pfizer website says there were eventually 46,331 participants. https://cdn.pfizer.com/pfizercom/2020-11/C4591001_Clinical_Protocol_Nov2020.pdfhttps://www.pfizer.com/science/coronavirus/vaccine/about-our-landmark-trialHowever, in the end, actually, there were no placebos, because everyone was given the vaccines. Pfizer reasoned that it was immoral to withhold the vaccine from people having Covid. https://www.npr.org/sections/health-shots/2021/02/19/969143015/long-term-studies-of-covid-19-vaccines-hurt-by-placebo-recipients-getting-immuniSo from a Phase 1 group of 195, and a combined Phase 2/3 group of 46,331, how many died? In November 2021, under court order using Freedom of Information, the following secret Pfizer document, at Table 1, 2nd last line, refers to 1,223 deaths. https://www.reuters.com/legal/government/wait-what-fda-wants-55-years-process-foia-request-over-vaccine-data-2021-11-18/https://phmpt.org/wp-content/uploads/2021/11/5.3.6-postmarketing-experience.pdfIf you do the calculation, that is 1 in 38 people died during the Pfizer vaccine trials. You might say we’re not seeing that in society in our vaccine rollout. But we sure are seeing a massive number of side effects that the authorities and Media are denying being linked to the vaccines. And what if there is future long-term damage from vaccines that produced 1 death in 38 people during the trials? As an example of the type of damage that Australian and New Zealand authorities say was not caused by the vaccine, search for the video of Auckland 23 year old woman Casey Hodgkinson. The above links are to Pfizer's own documents, so you cannot say it is misinformation.
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+x+x+x+x+x+xWhat a fucking pussy and the man babies in the thread crying about a needle. Like little kids having a soon at the doctor ffs. 🤦♂️ I haven't read your part stance on this topic but looking at your few comments on this page I'm in a bit of shock. In fact you're not the only one so i don't direct this to you specifically. I know people that know someone that's had covid. I personally don't know anyone first hand but it clearly exists without doubt. But I do know first hand a few people, friends/work colleagues that have had bad reactions to the vaccine. Case in point a work colleague. Had a reaction after both jabs, where he was previously a very healthy and positive person. Shouldn't have taken the second but in fear of the government telling him to leave the country due to his visa and because his workplace wouldn't further employ him he got the second one as well. He then proceeded to further decline in health and has seen him in hospital for some time and now for some reason it has had a big psychological impact that's affected his mood to the point hes now seeking psychiatric help. Furthermore his health improved only marginally in the time he got the second jab but he's still not good. I do speculate when I say that I have concern that he could go down the rabbit hole of doing drugs/alcohol etc with where he is at. But its a legitimate concern. This is someone who was a normal hard working person that had never had issues. I think before throwing out comments with complete disregard for something very serious and dangerous that is occurring, please reconsider some of your comments. Almost 90% of the adult population have gotten vaccinated. A few percent at most have gotten covid. Try and think about how many "concerning first hand" stories you would have if 90% of the population got covid and only a few percent were vaccinated. That's not to diminish anyone that's had a bad reaction to a vaccine, it does happen and it's really sad for them but there's a bigger picture. When you're vaccinating nearly 100% of the population, there will be no doubt that a fair number will have adverse reactions (how many people have peanut allergies?). To elevate this to state that there are major issues with the vaccine, or to state that they are completely safe is disingenuous. I think the best thing people can do is to speak to their GP about any concerns/issues they may have. I've had family that were concerned about AZ, and opted for Pfizer after speaking with their GP. I'm sure it works in the reverse as well. A serous reaction is bad and not to be scoffed at, but seriously some of these reactions or hearsay conditions people are whinging about sound more like panic attacks or anxiety than anything actually serious. Its the "nocebo" effect in full force I dare say. What is it?The nocebo effect is the opposite of the placebo effect. It describes a situation where a negative outcome occurs due to a belief that the intervention will cause harm. It is a sometimes forgotten phenomenon in the world of medicine safety. The term nocebo comes from the Latin ‘to harm’.
For adverse reactions to medicines, nocebo implies that patients are more likely to experience an adverse effect if they expect or are worried about the adverse effect. The adverse effects may be physically experienced by the patient and are often clinically diagnosable1. An example of the nocebo effect is the severe adverse effects experienced by patients taking a placebo during a clinical trial.Some experts state that the nocebo effect may have a larger effect on clinical outcomes than the placebo effect as negative perceptions are formed much faster than positive ones1.
The nocebo effect can be influenced by ‘media storms’. Widespread dissemination of concerns about an adverse reaction to a medicine leads to an increase in the number of reports of the adverse reaction. For example, in 2013, British media highlighted the adverse effects, including muscle pains, of statins following an article in the British Medical Journal2. An estimated 200,000 patients stopped taking statins within six months of the story being published, many due to adverse reactions. There was also an increase in the number of adverse reaction reports of rhabdomyolysis with statins during this time. This incident has since been attributed to the nocebo effect1. Indeed. Amazing that all these anti-vaxxers or friends of that ended up getting the vaccine are instantly being diagnosed with heart conditions that will affect their entire life, a process that could take anywhere from a few months at least to years to diagnose and conclude.
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part of the problem here in Australia is Scott Morrison who has not been forthright enough with the public about their duty to the country in dealing with this once in a century pandemic. Whereas the example set by New Zealand Prime Minister Jacinda Ardern has been exemplary. She is telling it how it is and has no time for anti-vaxxers imagined feels. anti-vaxxers 
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+x+x+x+x+xWhat a fucking pussy and the man babies in the thread crying about a needle. Like little kids having a soon at the doctor ffs. 🤦♂️ I haven't read your part stance on this topic but looking at your few comments on this page I'm in a bit of shock. In fact you're not the only one so i don't direct this to you specifically. I know people that know someone that's had covid. I personally don't know anyone first hand but it clearly exists without doubt. But I do know first hand a few people, friends/work colleagues that have had bad reactions to the vaccine. Case in point a work colleague. Had a reaction after both jabs, where he was previously a very healthy and positive person. Shouldn't have taken the second but in fear of the government telling him to leave the country due to his visa and because his workplace wouldn't further employ him he got the second one as well. He then proceeded to further decline in health and has seen him in hospital for some time and now for some reason it has had a big psychological impact that's affected his mood to the point hes now seeking psychiatric help. Furthermore his health improved only marginally in the time he got the second jab but he's still not good. I do speculate when I say that I have concern that he could go down the rabbit hole of doing drugs/alcohol etc with where he is at. But its a legitimate concern. This is someone who was a normal hard working person that had never had issues. I think before throwing out comments with complete disregard for something very serious and dangerous that is occurring, please reconsider some of your comments. Almost 90% of the adult population have gotten vaccinated. A few percent at most have gotten covid. Try and think about how many "concerning first hand" stories you would have if 90% of the population got covid and only a few percent were vaccinated. That's not to diminish anyone that's had a bad reaction to a vaccine, it does happen and it's really sad for them but there's a bigger picture. When you're vaccinating nearly 100% of the population, there will be no doubt that a fair number will have adverse reactions (how many people have peanut allergies?). To elevate this to state that there are major issues with the vaccine, or to state that they are completely safe is disingenuous. I think the best thing people can do is to speak to their GP about any concerns/issues they may have. I've had family that were concerned about AZ, and opted for Pfizer after speaking with their GP. I'm sure it works in the reverse as well. A serous reaction is bad and not to be scoffed at, but seriously some of these reactions or hearsay conditions people are whinging about sound more like panic attacks or anxiety than anything actually serious. Its the "nocebo" effect in full force I dare say. What is it?The nocebo effect is the opposite of the placebo effect. It describes a situation where a negative outcome occurs due to a belief that the intervention will cause harm. It is a sometimes forgotten phenomenon in the world of medicine safety. The term nocebo comes from the Latin ‘to harm’.
For adverse reactions to medicines, nocebo implies that patients are more likely to experience an adverse effect if they expect or are worried about the adverse effect. The adverse effects may be physically experienced by the patient and are often clinically diagnosable1. An example of the nocebo effect is the severe adverse effects experienced by patients taking a placebo during a clinical trial.Some experts state that the nocebo effect may have a larger effect on clinical outcomes than the placebo effect as negative perceptions are formed much faster than positive ones1.
The nocebo effect can be influenced by ‘media storms’. Widespread dissemination of concerns about an adverse reaction to a medicine leads to an increase in the number of reports of the adverse reaction. For example, in 2013, British media highlighted the adverse effects, including muscle pains, of statins following an article in the British Medical Journal2. An estimated 200,000 patients stopped taking statins within six months of the story being published, many due to adverse reactions. There was also an increase in the number of adverse reaction reports of rhabdomyolysis with statins during this time. This incident has since been attributed to the nocebo effect1.
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+x+x+x+x+xWhat a fucking pussy and the man babies in the thread crying about a needle. Like little kids having a soon at the doctor ffs. 🤦♂️ I think before throwing out comments with complete disregard for something very serious and dangerous that is occurring, please reconsider some of your comments. I think you need a bit of thread context. John Smith has been caught out posting dubious sources which have been debunked as total bullshit on multiple occasions, yet keeps on posting more links like nothing has happened. It's the equivalent of the boy who cried wolf. It's not a disregard for those who have suffered side effects, rather a disregard anything John smith posts. I think tsf last comment is obviously contrary to you last sentence. But thanks for the context. I know of people overseas that have died of covid. I get both sides. Problem is one side is being heavily hidden. No denying this. I'm denying it, the information is all there on government websites and from the vaccine manufacturers. No one is saying there are no side effects for anyone, simply that the risks of sever side effects is far far lower than the risks of complications from catching covid. You knowing a few people with severe side effects is anecdotal. Everyone I know (bar one) is vaccinated and none of them had serious side effects. Whose anecdote is correct? Neither. I just wanted to approve of this post.
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+x+x+xI think any vaccine hesitancy would be significantly reduced if we took all side effects (real or imagined), no matter how severe, seriously. It would give people confidence that they are being looked after. I don't think anyone in this thread is a qualified health professional. If you have a side effect and you talk to your GP they will listen to you. Severe side effects and deaths, even when they are later found not to be caused by the vaccine, are all recorded. What more do you want? People here are frustrated because people are spreading misinformation. It's complete garbage and does far more than vaccine hesitancy than someone calling them out. I agree that what we should do, but I think people on the forum shouldn't simply dismiss others about their hesitancy or misinformation, but instead refer them to their doctor. 100% but we've been telling these fucking idiots this for 12 months. We are crippled as a community because of these morons. Most of these stories are complete bullshit or over exagerrated. How many more people have to die I mean ffs even starting a point with 'I know covid is real but' as if for a minute there is any debate ffs...
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+x+x+x+x+x+xWhat a fucking pussy and the man babies in the thread crying about a needle. Like little kids having a soon at the doctor ffs. 🤦♂️ I haven't read your part stance on this topic but looking at your few comments on this page I'm in a bit of shock. In fact you're not the only one so i don't direct this to you specifically. I know people that know someone that's had covid. I personally don't know anyone first hand but it clearly exists without doubt. But I do know first hand a few people, friends/work colleagues that have had bad reactions to the vaccine. Case in point a work colleague. Had a reaction after both jabs, where he was previously a very healthy and positive person. Shouldn't have taken the second but in fear of the government telling him to leave the country due to his visa and because his workplace wouldn't further employ him he got the second one as well. He then proceeded to further decline in health and has seen him in hospital for some time and now for some reason it has had a big psychological impact that's affected his mood to the point hes now seeking psychiatric help. Furthermore his health improved only marginally in the time he got the second jab but he's still not good. I do speculate when I say that I have concern that he could go down the rabbit hole of doing drugs/alcohol etc with where he is at. But its a legitimate concern. This is someone who was a normal hard working person that had never had issues. I think before throwing out comments with complete disregard for something very serious and dangerous that is occurring, please reconsider some of your comments. Almost 90% of the adult population have gotten vaccinated. A few percent at most have gotten covid. Try and think about how many "concerning first hand" stories you would have if 90% of the population got covid and only a few percent were vaccinated. That's not to diminish anyone that's had a bad reaction to a vaccine, it does happen and it's really sad for them but there's a bigger picture. When you're vaccinating nearly 100% of the population, there will be no doubt that a fair number will have adverse reactions (how many people have peanut allergies?). To elevate this to state that there are major issues with the vaccine, or to state that they are completely safe is disingenuous. I think the best thing people can do is to speak to their GP about any concerns/issues they may have. I've had family that were concerned about AZ, and opted for Pfizer after speaking with their GP. I'm sure it works in the reverse as well. A serous reaction is bad and not to be scoffed at, but seriously some of these reactions or hearsay conditions people are whinging about sound more like panic attacks or anxiety than anything actually serious. Completely wrong. My friend can't play his chosen sport which he plays semi professionally nor can he do any activity due to issues with his heart now. You need to stop being ignorant. Your work colleague?
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there seem to be people on this forum knowingly spreading anti-vaxer misinformation
the forum owner is okay with that occurring on their property?
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+x+xI think any vaccine hesitancy would be significantly reduced if we took all side effects (real or imagined), no matter how severe, seriously. It would give people confidence that they are being looked after. I don't think anyone in this thread is a qualified health professional. If you have a side effect and you talk to your GP they will listen to you. Severe side effects and deaths, even when they are later found not to be caused by the vaccine, are all recorded. What more do you want? People here are frustrated because people are spreading misinformation. It's complete garbage and does far more than vaccine hesitancy than someone calling them out. I agree that what we should do, but I think people on the forum shouldn't simply dismiss others about their hesitancy or misinformation, but instead refer them to their doctor.
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+xI think any vaccine hesitancy would be significantly reduced if we took all side effects (real or imagined), no matter how severe, seriously. It would give people confidence that they are being looked after. I don't think anyone in this thread is a qualified health professional. If you have a side effect and you talk to your GP they will listen to you. Severe side effects and deaths, even when they are later found not to be caused by the vaccine, are all recorded. What more do you want? People here are frustrated because people are spreading misinformation. It's complete garbage and does far more than vaccine hesitancy than someone calling them out.
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+x+x+x+xWhat a fucking pussy and the man babies in the thread crying about a needle. Like little kids having a soon at the doctor ffs. 🤦♂️ I think before throwing out comments with complete disregard for something very serious and dangerous that is occurring, please reconsider some of your comments. I think you need a bit of thread context. John Smith has been caught out posting dubious sources which have been debunked as total bullshit on multiple occasions, yet keeps on posting more links like nothing has happened. It's the equivalent of the boy who cried wolf. It's not a disregard for those who have suffered side effects, rather a disregard anything John smith posts. I think tsf last comment is obviously contrary to you last sentence. But thanks for the context. I know of people overseas that have died of covid. I get both sides. Problem is one side is being heavily hidden. No denying this. I'm denying it, the information is all there on government websites and from the vaccine manufacturers. No one is saying there are no side effects for anyone, simply that the risks of sever side effects is far far lower than the risks of complications from catching covid. You knowing a few people with severe side effects is anecdotal. Everyone I know (bar one) is vaccinated and none of them had serious side effects. Whose anecdote is correct? Neither.
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+xI think any vaccine hesitancy would be significantly reduced if we took all side effects (real or imagined), no matter how severe, seriously. It would give people confidence that they are being looked after. vaccine hesitancy is largely based on conspiracy theories promoted on Facebook the sooner this is dealt with the sooner we can repair the misinformation distributed to vulnerable minds
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I think any vaccine hesitancy would be significantly reduced if we took all side effects (real or imagined), no matter how severe, seriously. It would give people confidence that they are being looked after.
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+x+x+x+x+xWhat a fucking pussy and the man babies in the thread crying about a needle. Like little kids having a soon at the doctor ffs. 🤦♂️ I haven't read your part stance on this topic but looking at your few comments on this page I'm in a bit of shock. In fact you're not the only one so i don't direct this to you specifically. I know people that know someone that's had covid. I personally don't know anyone first hand but it clearly exists without doubt. But I do know first hand a few people, friends/work colleagues that have had bad reactions to the vaccine. Case in point a work colleague. Had a reaction after both jabs, where he was previously a very healthy and positive person. Shouldn't have taken the second but in fear of the government telling him to leave the country due to his visa and because his workplace wouldn't further employ him he got the second one as well. He then proceeded to further decline in health and has seen him in hospital for some time and now for some reason it has had a big psychological impact that's affected his mood to the point hes now seeking psychiatric help. Furthermore his health improved only marginally in the time he got the second jab but he's still not good. I do speculate when I say that I have concern that he could go down the rabbit hole of doing drugs/alcohol etc with where he is at. But its a legitimate concern. This is someone who was a normal hard working person that had never had issues. I think before throwing out comments with complete disregard for something very serious and dangerous that is occurring, please reconsider some of your comments. Almost 90% of the adult population have gotten vaccinated. A few percent at most have gotten covid. Try and think about how many "concerning first hand" stories you would have if 90% of the population got covid and only a few percent were vaccinated. That's not to diminish anyone that's had a bad reaction to a vaccine, it does happen and it's really sad for them but there's a bigger picture. When you're vaccinating nearly 100% of the population, there will be no doubt that a fair number will have adverse reactions (how many people have peanut allergies?). To elevate this to state that there are major issues with the vaccine, or to state that they are completely safe is disingenuous. I think the best thing people can do is to speak to their GP about any concerns/issues they may have. I've had family that were concerned about AZ, and opted for Pfizer after speaking with their GP. I'm sure it works in the reverse as well. A serous reaction is bad and not to be scoffed at, but seriously some of these reactions or hearsay conditions people are whinging about sound more like panic attacks or anxiety than anything actually serious. Completely wrong. My friend can't play his chosen sport which he plays semi professionally nor can he do any activity due to issues with his heart now. You need to stop being ignorant.
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+x+x+xWhat a fucking pussy and the man babies in the thread crying about a needle. Like little kids having a soon at the doctor ffs. 🤦♂️ I think before throwing out comments with complete disregard for something very serious and dangerous that is occurring, please reconsider some of your comments. I think you need a bit of thread context. John Smith has been caught out posting dubious sources which have been debunked as total bullshit on multiple occasions, yet keeps on posting more links like nothing has happened. It's the equivalent of the boy who cried wolf. It's not a disregard for those who have suffered side effects, rather a disregard anything John smith posts. I think tsf last comment is obviously contrary to you last sentence. But thanks for the context. I know of people overseas that have died of covid. I get both sides. Problem is one side is being heavily hidden. No denying this.
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+x+x+xWhat a fucking pussy and the man babies in the thread crying about a needle. Like little kids having a soon at the doctor ffs. 🤦♂️ I haven't read your part stance on this topic but looking at your few comments on this page I'm in a bit of shock. In fact you're not the only one so i don't direct this to you specifically. I know people that know someone that's had covid. I personally don't know anyone first hand but it clearly exists without doubt. But I do know first hand a few people, friends/work colleagues that have had bad reactions to the vaccine. Case in point a work colleague. Had a reaction after both jabs, where he was previously a very healthy and positive person. Shouldn't have taken the second but in fear of the government telling him to leave the country due to his visa and because his workplace wouldn't further employ him he got the second one as well. He then proceeded to further decline in health and has seen him in hospital for some time and now for some reason it has had a big psychological impact that's affected his mood to the point hes now seeking psychiatric help. Furthermore his health improved only marginally in the time he got the second jab but he's still not good. I do speculate when I say that I have concern that he could go down the rabbit hole of doing drugs/alcohol etc with where he is at. But its a legitimate concern. This is someone who was a normal hard working person that had never had issues. I think before throwing out comments with complete disregard for something very serious and dangerous that is occurring, please reconsider some of your comments. So you're worried he might become a drug addict because he had a vaccine? And you know few people who have had a reaction to a vaccine? ok. Yes, something serious and dangerous is occurring - a global pandemic that has crippled the world and we have man babies having mental breakdowns because they've been asked to take a little needle in the arm to protect themselves and others and to help us move on. Absolute sooks. Wow. You are special. Good luck.
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+x+xWhat a fucking pussy and the man babies in the thread crying about a needle. Like little kids having a soon at the doctor ffs. 🤦♂️ I think before throwing out comments with complete disregard for something very serious and dangerous that is occurring, please reconsider some of your comments. I think you need a bit of thread context. John Smith has been caught out posting dubious sources which have been debunked as total bullshit on multiple occasions, yet keeps on posting more links like nothing has happened. It's the equivalent of the boy who cried wolf. It's not a disregard for those who have suffered side effects, rather a disregard anything John smith posts.
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+x+x+x+x+xWhat a fucking pussy and the man babies in the thread crying about a needle. Like little kids having a soon at the doctor ffs. 🤦♂️ I haven't read your part stance on this topic but looking at your few comments on this page I'm in a bit of shock. In fact you're not the only one so i don't direct this to you specifically. I know people that know someone that's had covid. I personally don't know anyone first hand but it clearly exists without doubt. But I do know first hand a few people, friends/work colleagues that have had bad reactions to the vaccine. Case in point a work colleague. Had a reaction after both jabs, where he was previously a very healthy and positive person. Shouldn't have taken the second but in fear of the government telling him to leave the country due to his visa and because his workplace wouldn't further employ him he got the second one as well. He then proceeded to further decline in health and has seen him in hospital for some time and now for some reason it has had a big psychological impact that's affected his mood to the point hes now seeking psychiatric help. Furthermore his health improved only marginally in the time he got the second jab but he's still not good. I do speculate when I say that I have concern that he could go down the rabbit hole of doing drugs/alcohol etc with where he is at. But its a legitimate concern. This is someone who was a normal hard working person that had never had issues. I think before throwing out comments with complete disregard for something very serious and dangerous that is occurring, please reconsider some of your comments. Almost 90% of the adult population have gotten vaccinated. A few percent at most have gotten covid. Try and think about how many "concerning first hand" stories you would have if 90% of the population got covid and only a few percent were vaccinated. That's not to diminish anyone that's had a bad reaction to a vaccine, it does happen and it's really sad for them but there's a bigger picture. When you're vaccinating nearly 100% of the population, there will be no doubt that a fair number will have adverse reactions (how many people have peanut allergies?). To elevate this to state that there are major issues with the vaccine, or to state that they are completely safe is disingenuous. I think the best thing people can do is to speak to their GP about any concerns/issues they may have. I've had family that were concerned about AZ, and opted for Pfizer after speaking with their GP. I'm sure it works in the reverse as well. A serous reaction is bad and not to be scoffed at, but seriously some of these reactions or hearsay conditions people are whinging about sound more like panic attacks or anxiety than anything actually serious. exactly most of these events are just imagined
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+x+x+x+xWhat a fucking pussy and the man babies in the thread crying about a needle. Like little kids having a soon at the doctor ffs. 🤦♂️ I haven't read your part stance on this topic but looking at your few comments on this page I'm in a bit of shock. In fact you're not the only one so i don't direct this to you specifically. I know people that know someone that's had covid. I personally don't know anyone first hand but it clearly exists without doubt. But I do know first hand a few people, friends/work colleagues that have had bad reactions to the vaccine. Case in point a work colleague. Had a reaction after both jabs, where he was previously a very healthy and positive person. Shouldn't have taken the second but in fear of the government telling him to leave the country due to his visa and because his workplace wouldn't further employ him he got the second one as well. He then proceeded to further decline in health and has seen him in hospital for some time and now for some reason it has had a big psychological impact that's affected his mood to the point hes now seeking psychiatric help. Furthermore his health improved only marginally in the time he got the second jab but he's still not good. I do speculate when I say that I have concern that he could go down the rabbit hole of doing drugs/alcohol etc with where he is at. But its a legitimate concern. This is someone who was a normal hard working person that had never had issues. I think before throwing out comments with complete disregard for something very serious and dangerous that is occurring, please reconsider some of your comments. Almost 90% of the adult population have gotten vaccinated. A few percent at most have gotten covid. Try and think about how many "concerning first hand" stories you would have if 90% of the population got covid and only a few percent were vaccinated. That's not to diminish anyone that's had a bad reaction to a vaccine, it does happen and it's really sad for them but there's a bigger picture. When you're vaccinating nearly 100% of the population, there will be no doubt that a fair number will have adverse reactions (how many people have peanut allergies?). To elevate this to state that there are major issues with the vaccine, or to state that they are completely safe is disingenuous. I think the best thing people can do is to speak to their GP about any concerns/issues they may have. I've had family that were concerned about AZ, and opted for Pfizer after speaking with their GP. I'm sure it works in the reverse as well. A serous reaction is bad and not to be scoffed at, but seriously some of these reactions or hearsay conditions people are whinging about sound more like panic attacks or anxiety than anything actually serious.
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+x+x+xWhat a fucking pussy and the man babies in the thread crying about a needle. Like little kids having a soon at the doctor ffs. 🤦♂️ I haven't read your part stance on this topic but looking at your few comments on this page I'm in a bit of shock. In fact you're not the only one so i don't direct this to you specifically. I know people that know someone that's had covid. I personally don't know anyone first hand but it clearly exists without doubt. But I do know first hand a few people, friends/work colleagues that have had bad reactions to the vaccine. Case in point a work colleague. Had a reaction after both jabs, where he was previously a very healthy and positive person. Shouldn't have taken the second but in fear of the government telling him to leave the country due to his visa and because his workplace wouldn't further employ him he got the second one as well. He then proceeded to further decline in health and has seen him in hospital for some time and now for some reason it has had a big psychological impact that's affected his mood to the point hes now seeking psychiatric help. Furthermore his health improved only marginally in the time he got the second jab but he's still not good. I do speculate when I say that I have concern that he could go down the rabbit hole of doing drugs/alcohol etc with where he is at. But its a legitimate concern. This is someone who was a normal hard working person that had never had issues. I think before throwing out comments with complete disregard for something very serious and dangerous that is occurring, please reconsider some of your comments. Almost 90% of the adult population have gotten vaccinated. A few percent at most have gotten covid. Try and think about how many "concerning first hand" stories you would have if 90% of the population got covid and only a few percent were vaccinated. That's not to diminish anyone that's had a bad reaction to a vaccine, it does happen and it's really sad for them but there's a bigger picture. yes, if we hadn't gotten the population vaccinated and locked down our country and just let it rip like Trump did we'd have over 100,000 covid deaths annually
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+x+x+xWhat a fucking pussy and the man babies in the thread crying about a needle. Like little kids having a soon at the doctor ffs. 🤦♂️ I haven't read your part stance on this topic but looking at your few comments on this page I'm in a bit of shock. In fact you're not the only one so i don't direct this to you specifically. I know people that know someone that's had covid. I personally don't know anyone first hand but it clearly exists without doubt. But I do know first hand a few people, friends/work colleagues that have had bad reactions to the vaccine. Case in point a work colleague. Had a reaction after both jabs, where he was previously a very healthy and positive person. Shouldn't have taken the second but in fear of the government telling him to leave the country due to his visa and because his workplace wouldn't further employ him he got the second one as well. He then proceeded to further decline in health and has seen him in hospital for some time and now for some reason it has had a big psychological impact that's affected his mood to the point hes now seeking psychiatric help. Furthermore his health improved only marginally in the time he got the second jab but he's still not good. I do speculate when I say that I have concern that he could go down the rabbit hole of doing drugs/alcohol etc with where he is at. But its a legitimate concern. This is someone who was a normal hard working person that had never had issues. I think before throwing out comments with complete disregard for something very serious and dangerous that is occurring, please reconsider some of your comments. Almost 90% of the adult population have gotten vaccinated. A few percent at most have gotten covid. Try and think about how many "concerning first hand" stories you would have if 90% of the population got covid and only a few percent were vaccinated. That's not to diminish anyone that's had a bad reaction to a vaccine, it does happen and it's really sad for them but there's a bigger picture. When you're vaccinating nearly 100% of the population, there will be no doubt that a fair number will have adverse reactions (how many people have peanut allergies?). To elevate this to state that there are major issues with the vaccine, or to state that they are completely safe is disingenuous. I think the best thing people can do is to speak to their GP about any concerns/issues they may have. I've had family that were concerned about AZ, and opted for Pfizer after speaking with their GP. I'm sure it works in the reverse as well.
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+x+xWhat a fucking pussy and the man babies in the thread crying about a needle. Like little kids having a soon at the doctor ffs. 🤦♂️ I haven't read your part stance on this topic but looking at your few comments on this page I'm in a bit of shock. In fact you're not the only one so i don't direct this to you specifically. I know people that know someone that's had covid. I personally don't know anyone first hand but it clearly exists without doubt. But I do know first hand a few people, friends/work colleagues that have had bad reactions to the vaccine. Case in point a work colleague. Had a reaction after both jabs, where he was previously a very healthy and positive person. Shouldn't have taken the second but in fear of the government telling him to leave the country due to his visa and because his workplace wouldn't further employ him he got the second one as well. He then proceeded to further decline in health and has seen him in hospital for some time and now for some reason it has had a big psychological impact that's affected his mood to the point hes now seeking psychiatric help. Furthermore his health improved only marginally in the time he got the second jab but he's still not good. I do speculate when I say that I have concern that he could go down the rabbit hole of doing drugs/alcohol etc with where he is at. But its a legitimate concern. This is someone who was a normal hard working person that had never had issues. I think before throwing out comments with complete disregard for something very serious and dangerous that is occurring, please reconsider some of your comments. Almost 90% of the adult population have gotten vaccinated. A few percent at most have gotten covid. Try and think about how many "concerning first hand" stories you would have if 90% of the population got covid and only a few percent were vaccinated. That's not to diminish anyone that's had a bad reaction to a vaccine, it does happen and it's really sad for them but there's a bigger picture.
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+xFormer footballer Paul Dimattina bad reaction to booster, and then he gets Covid. [img]https://ibb.co/g7GQK57[img]
https://ibb.co/g7GQK57
You realise only four people read this forum. Shouldn't you be aiming for a bigger audience?
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+x+xWhat a fucking pussy and the man babies in the thread crying about a needle. Like little kids having a soon at the doctor ffs. 🤦♂️ I haven't read your part stance on this topic but looking at your few comments on this page I'm in a bit of shock. In fact you're not the only one so i don't direct this to you specifically. I know people that know someone that's had covid. I personally don't know anyone first hand but it clearly exists without doubt. But I do know first hand a few people, friends/work colleagues that have had bad reactions to the vaccine. Case in point a work colleague. Had a reaction after both jabs, where he was previously a very healthy and positive person. Shouldn't have taken the second but in fear of the government telling him to leave the country due to his visa and because his workplace wouldn't further employ him he got the second one as well. He then proceeded to further decline in health and has seen him in hospital for some time and now for some reason it has had a big psychological impact that's affected his mood to the point hes now seeking psychiatric help. Furthermore his health improved only marginally in the time he got the second jab but he's still not good. I do speculate when I say that I have concern that he could go down the rabbit hole of doing drugs/alcohol etc with where he is at. But its a legitimate concern. This is someone who was a normal hard working person that had never had issues. I think before throwing out comments with complete disregard for something very serious and dangerous that is occurring, please reconsider some of your comments. So you're worried he might become a drug addict because he had a vaccine? And you know few people who have had a reaction to a vaccine? ok. Yes, something serious and dangerous is occurring - a global pandemic that has crippled the world and we have man babies having mental breakdowns because they've been asked to take a little needle in the arm to protect themselves and others and to help us move on. Absolute sooks.
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+xWhat a fucking pussy and the man babies in the thread crying about a needle. Like little kids having a soon at the doctor ffs. 🤦♂️ I haven't read your part stance on this topic but looking at your few comments on this page I'm in a bit of shock. In fact you're not the only one so i don't direct this to you specifically. I know people that know someone that's had covid. I personally don't know anyone first hand but it clearly exists without doubt. But I do know first hand a few people, friends/work colleagues that have had bad reactions to the vaccine. Case in point a work colleague. Had a reaction after both jabs, where he was previously a very healthy and positive person. Shouldn't have taken the second but in fear of the government telling him to leave the country due to his visa and because his workplace wouldn't further employ him he got the second one as well. He then proceeded to further decline in health and has seen him in hospital for some time and now for some reason it has had a big psychological impact that's affected his mood to the point hes now seeking psychiatric help. Furthermore his health improved only marginally in the time he got the second jab but he's still not good. I do speculate when I say that I have concern that he could go down the rabbit hole of doing drugs/alcohol etc with where he is at. But its a legitimate concern. This is someone who was a normal hard working person that had never had issues. I think before throwing out comments with complete disregard for something very serious and dangerous that is occurring, please reconsider some of your comments.
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+xFormer footballer Paul Dimattina bad reaction to booster, and then he gets Covid. [img]https://ibb.co/g7GQK57[img]
https://ibb.co/g7GQK57
another old man with a pre-existing condition who is also an anti government activisit all your sources are dubious
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Former footballer Paul Dimattina bad reaction to booster, and then he gets Covid. [img]https://ibb.co/g7GQK57[img]
https://ibb.co/g7GQK57
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cesspit
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its a former basketballer so he's probably not very fit your source is dubious get back to us when you get provide information from trusted sources
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A bloke named Barry wrote on facebook
LOL FMD......
(EDIT: OMG - look at the posts. he's batshit crazy god botherer. )
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