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+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+xThe LNP only way of making money - selling off your resources and assets to foreign companies and countries will make sure it will never end.
I’t would be great if we had more production here, but we’ve had 15 years of a government that was anti progressive industries and ideas.
thank the unions of the past pricing us out of the factory labour rates ridiculously and our stoopid Govs of the past subsidising trying to keep it here. Agree with you wholeheartedly selling off to offshore mobs is wrong, that should have been stopped 25yrs ago might I add and more. Yeah yeah blame the unions. When a person in China will work for $10 a day it's a bit hard to compete. Would you work for $2 an hour? I doubt it. Don't forget it's the free market that decides what and where to produce something. China is not a free market. The market is controlled by the Chinese Communist Party. They control the wages of their workers. They control the value of their currency. They control the terms under which foreign business do business there. They abuse their title of emerging economy. I'm talking of manufacturers here that shipped production off shore because it was cheaper. And "offshore" means China, Vietnam, Bangladesh, none of which are free market economies. The global economy is not a free market economy. Understood but when our manufacturers go off shore they are doing it based on free market principles here. What the politics are where it's getting made are irrelevant. We can't compete so business takes their business off shore. It's like people blowing up at China buying our farmland. Who's selling it to them? That's right, the farmers. Well, the politics can become relevant if we want them to be. The government can make whatever laws it wants to limit sales of farms to specific buyers, for example if its in the national interest. Because that's the sort of thing China would do if foreigners tried to buy Chinese farms. I ts never was level playing field and it always was lunacy to engage in trade when that is the case. Sure. But that's another argument. Besides I'm pretty sure when they draw up trade deals there's all sorts of quid pro quos regards innumerable things. (IE. You buy our iron ore and we'll make the most cursory checks with the FIRB about land acquisitions and not talk about Tibet or Taiwan.) 'twas ever thus....
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+x+x+xThe LNP only way of making money - selling off your resources and assets to foreign companies and countries will make sure it will never end.
I’t would be great if we had more production here, but we’ve had 15 years of a government that was anti progressive industries and ideas.
thank the unions of the past pricing us out of the factory labour rates ridiculously and our stoopid Govs of the past subsidising trying to keep it here. Agree with you wholeheartedly selling off to offshore mobs is wrong, that should have been stopped 25yrs ago might I add and more. Yeah nah... I work in finance. You can hire a CPA from India with equivalent experience for 1/5th the cost in salary. that you can, I can purchase alot ex India as well, why, because the labour costs are way lower than here and just as China the FOB price is competitive. We never competed doing export business much from here from our car industry (that where I'm coming from), little dribbles by Holden to the ME due them loving V8's and they have the $$$$'s to pay more...... We should have been able to supply into Asia Pac and ME far better but was never in the ball park price wise.
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You may want to look into the LIMA agreement.
China is imploding from their aggressive stance, their property boom has busted and the CCP are suckling off the exemplaries to keep them afloat. Jack Mar and how many celebrities have had to give up their money to the party?
Globalism isn't dead, just look at the economic forum. They have boasted that they have insurgents in government, they have said their piece on their goals with which the UN has been complicite.
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+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+xThe LNP only way of making money - selling off your resources and assets to foreign companies and countries will make sure it will never end.
I’t would be great if we had more production here, but we’ve had 15 years of a government that was anti progressive industries and ideas.
thank the unions of the past pricing us out of the factory labour rates ridiculously and our stoopid Govs of the past subsidising trying to keep it here. Agree with you wholeheartedly selling off to offshore mobs is wrong, that should have been stopped 25yrs ago might I add and more. Yeah yeah blame the unions. When a person in China will work for $10 a day it's a bit hard to compete. Would you work for $2 an hour? I doubt it. Don't forget it's the free market that decides what and where to produce something. China is not a free market. The market is controlled by the Chinese Communist Party. They control the wages of their workers. They control the value of their currency. They control the terms under which foreign business do business there. They abuse their title of emerging economy. I'm talking of manufacturers here that shipped production off shore because it was cheaper. And "offshore" means China, Vietnam, Bangladesh, none of which are free market economies. The global economy is not a free market economy. Understood but when our manufacturers go off shore they are doing it based on free market principles here. What the politics are where it's getting made are irrelevant. We can't compete so business takes their business off shore. It's like people blowing up at China buying our farmland. Who's selling it to them? That's right, the farmers. Well, the politics can become relevant if we want them to be. The government can make whatever laws it wants to limit sales of farms to specific buyers, for example if its in the national interest. Because that's the sort of thing China would do if foreigners tried to buy Chinese farms. Its never was level playing field and it always was lunacy to engage in trade when that is the case. It's almost like you see government intervention in the free market as a good thing comrade?!
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+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+xThe LNP only way of making money - selling off your resources and assets to foreign companies and countries will make sure it will never end.
I’t would be great if we had more production here, but we’ve had 15 years of a government that was anti progressive industries and ideas.
thank the unions of the past pricing us out of the factory labour rates ridiculously and our stoopid Govs of the past subsidising trying to keep it here. Agree with you wholeheartedly selling off to offshore mobs is wrong, that should have been stopped 25yrs ago might I add and more. Yeah yeah blame the unions. When a person in China will work for $10 a day it's a bit hard to compete. Would you work for $2 an hour? I doubt it. Don't forget it's the free market that decides what and where to produce something. China is not a free market. The market is controlled by the Chinese Communist Party. They control the wages of their workers. They control the value of their currency. They control the terms under which foreign business do business there. They abuse their title of emerging economy. I'm talking of manufacturers here that shipped production off shore because it was cheaper. And "offshore" means China, Vietnam, Bangladesh, none of which are free market economies. The global economy is not a free market economy. Understood but when our manufacturers go off shore they are doing it based on free market principles here. What the politics are where it's getting made are irrelevant. We can't compete so business takes their business off shore. It's like people blowing up at China buying our farmland. Who's selling it to them? That's right, the farmers. Well, the politics can become relevant if we want them to be. The government can make whatever laws it wants to limit sales of farms to specific buyers, for example if its in the national interest. Because that's the sort of thing China would do if foreigners tried to buy Chinese farms. Its never was level playing field and it always was lunacy to engage in trade when that is the case. It's almost like you see government intervention in the free market as a good thing comrade?! Free market? What fairy tale world do you live in? There is no free market. The duty of government is act in the best interests of its citizens. If that means opting out of international trade which is contrary to that principle, than that's what should happen.
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Muz
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+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+xThe LNP only way of making money - selling off your resources and assets to foreign companies and countries will make sure it will never end.
I’t would be great if we had more production here, but we’ve had 15 years of a government that was anti progressive industries and ideas.
thank the unions of the past pricing us out of the factory labour rates ridiculously and our stoopid Govs of the past subsidising trying to keep it here. Agree with you wholeheartedly selling off to offshore mobs is wrong, that should have been stopped 25yrs ago might I add and more. Yeah yeah blame the unions. When a person in China will work for $10 a day it's a bit hard to compete. Would you work for $2 an hour? I doubt it. Don't forget it's the free market that decides what and where to produce something. China is not a free market. The market is controlled by the Chinese Communist Party. They control the wages of their workers. They control the value of their currency. They control the terms under which foreign business do business there. They abuse their title of emerging economy. I'm talking of manufacturers here that shipped production off shore because it was cheaper. And "offshore" means China, Vietnam, Bangladesh, none of which are free market economies. The global economy is not a free market economy. Understood but when our manufacturers go off shore they are doing it based on free market principles here. What the politics are where it's getting made are irrelevant. We can't compete so business takes their business off shore. It's like people blowing up at China buying our farmland. Who's selling it to them? That's right, the farmers. Well, the politics can become relevant if we want them to be. The government can make whatever laws it wants to limit sales of farms to specific buyers, for example if its in the national interest. Because that's the sort of thing China would do if foreigners tried to buy Chinese farms. Its never was level playing field and it always was lunacy to engage in trade when that is the case. It's almost like you see government intervention in the free market as a good thing comrade?! Free market? What fairy tale world do you live in? There is no free market. The duty of government is act in the best interests of its citizens. If that means opting out of international trade which is contrary to that principle, than that's what should happen. So you're for government intervention in the free market. I agree. There should be far more of it. Glad we're on the same page.
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+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+xThe LNP only way of making money - selling off your resources and assets to foreign companies and countries will make sure it will never end.
I’t would be great if we had more production here, but we’ve had 15 years of a government that was anti progressive industries and ideas.
thank the unions of the past pricing us out of the factory labour rates ridiculously and our stoopid Govs of the past subsidising trying to keep it here. Agree with you wholeheartedly selling off to offshore mobs is wrong, that should have been stopped 25yrs ago might I add and more. Yeah yeah blame the unions. When a person in China will work for $10 a day it's a bit hard to compete. Would you work for $2 an hour? I doubt it. Don't forget it's the free market that decides what and where to produce something. China is not a free market. The market is controlled by the Chinese Communist Party. They control the wages of their workers. They control the value of their currency. They control the terms under which foreign business do business there. They abuse their title of emerging economy. I'm talking of manufacturers here that shipped production off shore because it was cheaper. And "offshore" means China, Vietnam, Bangladesh, none of which are free market economies. The global economy is not a free market economy. Understood but when our manufacturers go off shore they are doing it based on free market principles here. What the politics are where it's getting made are irrelevant. We can't compete so business takes their business off shore. It's like people blowing up at China buying our farmland. Who's selling it to them? That's right, the farmers. Well, the politics can become relevant if we want them to be. The government can make whatever laws it wants to limit sales of farms to specific buyers, for example if its in the national interest. Because that's the sort of thing China would do if foreigners tried to buy Chinese farms. Its never was level playing field and it always was lunacy to engage in trade when that is the case. It's almost like you see government intervention in the free market as a good thing comrade?! Free market? What fairy tale world do you live in? There is no free market. The duty of government is act in the best interests of its citizens. If that means opting out of international trade which is contrary to that principle, than that's what should happen. So you're for government intervention in the free market. I agree. There should be far more of it. Glad we're on the same page. Same with standing up for "free speech".
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