Who is on the Plane to Qatar?


Who is on the Plane to Qatar?

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kuol in according to a source
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A few more 'bombshell' selections according to Daniel Garb...
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Enzo Bearzot - 8 Nov 2022 10:33 AM
Bowden - 8 Nov 2022 9:23 AM



You pick your best for the WC unless there is some extra-ordinary reason not to.  That isn't it.

There is more to it than talent, you need to balance squad cohesion

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So maclaren can refuse a call up twice for limp wristwd reasons but our best playing keeper and most successful over last two years doesn’t go? 

Staggering. 



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tsf - 8 Nov 2022 11:13 AM
So maclaren can refuse a call up twice for limp wristwd reasons but our best playing keeper and most successful over last two years doesn’t go? 

Staggering. 



I have watched Nagoya Famous because of Langarak. I haven't seen any outstanding games from him yet. He wasn't Courtois. So what such a big deal?  Maybe I don't get excited he is going to the world cup or not cuz I'm the only one who watch him lolz.
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socceroos_rsdg - 8 Nov 2022 10:17 AM
Bowden - 8 Nov 2022 9:23 AM

same goes with Cummings as there is zero point to him being there.

Cummings is the best all-round striker Arnold can select for Roos - his recent form is fantastic 
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Mr Cleansheets - 8 Nov 2022 10:36 AM
socceroos_rsdg - 8 Nov 2022 10:17 AM

You're either a troll, or Adam Taggart in disguise.

Cummings ought to be first picked right now, as anyone with half a football brain ought to know.

I guess you must be Cummings dad. Cummings has spent most of his career in British lower leagues comes to the A-league scores a few goals and you all think his god's gift to football. Why not pick someone like a D'agositno, Arzani, Tilio who are younger, better and will probably be used in the side in the future.

Getting real sick of the CCM fanboys, there a mid-table A-league team, half the squad can't be made up of players from there.
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socceroos_rsdg - 8 Nov 2022 12:12 PM
Mr Cleansheets - 8 Nov 2022 10:36 AM

I guess you must be Cummings dad. Cummings has spent most of his career in British lower leagues comes to the A-league scores a few goals and you all think his god's gift to football. Why not pick someone like a D'agositno, Arzani, Tilio who are younger, better and will probably be used in the side in the future.

Getting real sick of the CCM fanboys, there a mid-table A-league team, half the squad can't be made up of players from there.

i wouldnt call the spl and the championship lower leagues.

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Bowden - 8 Nov 2022 9:23 AM
The Langerak decision is justice. The dude rejected his country when we needed all the help we could get during the most intense WCQ ever, and watched as actual dedicated Socceroos pushed through for their country.

After all the hard work was done, this pea heart says “Ooh I’m ready to come out of retirement now as I’d really like to play at the World Cup! 😃”

Fuck off with that shit. As a multi millionaire professional athlete, his excuses for retirement were poor when the rest of the squad, including other Japan-based players, were prepared to do what it takes for their country. 

I am so stoked that we haven’t been so weak to allow the national team shirt to be tarnished by letting people like Langerak pick and choose when they’d like to play for the national team. I’ve said previously that I’d enjoy a similar stance on JMac & Leckie, but they only turned down a couple of games, whereas Langerak turned down an entire WCQ cycle. 

Langerak made his bed. He only has himself to blame. 

Everyone entitled to their opinion but I couldn't disagree with this stance any more. Langerak has valid and genuine reasons at a very difficult time with extremely burdensome quarantine restrictions requirements and was upfront with his reasons unlike others! By far our most highly credentialed goalkeeper in last 5 years. 
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I’d say the Langerak decision possibly has something to do with the $350k compensation Mariners will get for taking Vukovic instead. While Langerak is a decent keeper he’s unlikely to get minutes, and Vukovic until only recently was playing at a higher level than the j league. We don’t lose much by taking Vuko over Langerak, and Mariners get a hefty windfall for the trouble.


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Let's see if Rogic is picked...a player that just walked away with no excuse and has hardly had a kick in a year.
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simione001 - 8 Nov 2022 12:36 PM
socceroos_rsdg - 8 Nov 2022 12:12 PM

i wouldnt call the spl and the championship lower leagues.

Cummings career breakdown:
SPL - 54 games - never more then 18 in a season, 14 goals
Scottish championship - 150 games, 77 goals 
English league 1 - 82 games, 19 goals
English championship - 17 games, 4 goals
A-league - 26 games, 13 goals

So that approx 80% of his games at Scottish championship, league 1 or A-league level were 85% of his goals have come from. Just have to be honest with yourself if he was any good, he wouldn't have come to the A-league as someone who is fully Scottish.  
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socceroos_rsdg - 8 Nov 2022 1:09 PM
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Cummings career breakdown:
SPL - 54 games - never more then 18 in a season, 14 goals
Scottish championship - 150 games, 77 goals 
English league 1 - 82 games, 19 goals
English championship - 17 games, 4 goals
A-league - 26 games, 13 goals

So that approx 80% of his games at Scottish championship, league 1 or A-league level were 85% of his goals have come from. Just have to be honest with yourself if he was any good, he wouldn't have come to the A-league as someone who is fully Scottish.  

yeah thats just about the level for socceroos selection.

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tsf - 8 Nov 2022 11:13 AM
So maclaren can refuse a call up twice for limp wristwd reasons but our best playing keeper and most successful over last two years doesn’t go? 

Staggering. 



He should be cut too, tbh

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roosty - 8 Nov 2022 12:51 PM
I’d say the Langerak decision possibly has something to do with the $350k compensation Mariners will get for taking Vukovic instead. While Langerak is a decent keeper he’s unlikely to get minutes, and Vukovic until only recently was playing at a higher level than the j league. We don’t lose much by taking Vuko over Langerak, and Mariners get a hefty windfall for the trouble.


I must admit, this was my thought too.... God I hope its not the case and Arnie's selections are based on which clubs get paid the player compensation bonus... :(
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verrelli - 8 Nov 2022 12:42 PM
Bowden - 8 Nov 2022 9:23 AM

Everyone entitled to their opinion but I couldn't disagree with this stance any more. Langerak has valid and genuine reasons at a very difficult time with extremely burdensome quarantine restrictions requirements and was upfront with his reasons unlike others! By far our most highly credentialed goalkeeper in last 5 years. 

Absolutely they are valid reasons but someone like Danny Vukovic who has a sick son managed to make the sacrifice and its not right that then he would miss out. Langerak has made a family decision which is fine, but he has to live with his decision. He cant have it both ways 

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socceroos_rsdg - 8 Nov 2022 12:12 PM
Mr Cleansheets - 8 Nov 2022 10:36 AM

I guess you must be Cummings dad. Cummings has spent most of his career in British lower leagues comes to the A-league scores a few goals and you all think his god's gift to football. Why not pick someone like a D'agositno, Arzani, Tilio who are younger, better and will probably be used in the side in the future.

Getting real sick of the CCM fanboys, there a mid-table A-league team, half the squad can't be made up of players from there.

Arzani and Tilio dont play the same position as Cummings. And Cummings has been in better form than D'aggers this season. Im all for giving younger players a go over older players, but they still need to be playing better than the older players

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socceroos_rsdg - 8 Nov 2022 1:09 PM
simione001 - 8 Nov 2022 12:36 PM

Cummings career breakdown:
SPL - 54 games - never more then 18 in a season, 14 goals
Scottish championship - 150 games, 77 goals 
English league 1 - 82 games, 19 goals
English championship - 17 games, 4 goals
A-league - 26 games, 13 goals

So that approx 80% of his games at Scottish championship, league 1 or A-league level were 85% of his goals have come from. Just have to be honest with yourself if he was any good, he wouldn't have come to the A-league as someone who is fully Scottish.  

The other thing you need to take into account is it is a team game. He plays well with Kuol at CCM. He played well (and they both prospered) at HIBS with Boyle. Boyle and MacLaren did not combine well at HIBS. 

He also has an Australian mother and his brother lives in Australia.
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jaymz - 8 Nov 2022 1:18 PM
verrelli - 8 Nov 2022 12:42 PM

Absolutely they are valid reasons but someone like Danny Vukovic who has a sick son managed to make the sacrifice and its not right that then he would miss out. Langerak has made a family decision which is fine, but he has to live with his decision. He cant have it both ways 

Well it did travel for what seemed like ten years to sit on the bench nearly every game - even the dead ones. I'd say he made big sacrifices already for the team., for zilch reward.
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socceroos_rsdg - 8 Nov 2022 1:09 PM
simione001 - 8 Nov 2022 12:36 PM

 Just have to be honest with yourself if he was any good, he wouldn't have come to the A-league as someone who is fully Scottish.  

Who is better that can also play for Australia?! 
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tsf - 8 Nov 2022 2:37 PM
jaymz - 8 Nov 2022 1:18 PM

Well it did travel for what seemed like ten years to sit on the bench nearly every game - even the dead ones. I'd say he made big sacrifices already for the team., for zilch reward.

I always thought of Mitch as a great 'shot-stopper' but less so as a 'sweeper-keeper' - which we will need given the amount of defence we will be doing and the injuries at CB we are carrying into the tournament. Surely he has progressed in that area over the years - though I must admit I haven't watched him. J-League keeper of the year suggests he can't be doing too much wrong.

Did the sports scientists chat to him? Does the 6-0 against France still haunt him?

When was the decision made and by whom? He didn't get game time against NZ. Was that when the decision was made. 

Whatever the reasoning he has claim to be our best keeper at the moment - nailed on as one of the best two. With an injury cloud hanging over Maty it seems a very strange decision.  
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patjennings - 8 Nov 2022 2:30 PM
socceroos_rsdg - 8 Nov 2022 1:09 PM

Boyle and MacLaren did not combine well at HIBS. 

Genuine question: has JMac ever combined well with anyone (apart from himself)?! Always seems like a 1 man band to me
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Balin Trev - 8 Nov 2022 2:54 PM
patjennings - 8 Nov 2022 2:30 PM

Genuine question: has JMac ever combined well with anyone (apart from himself)?! Always seems like a 1 man band to me

Not really. Even in the a league it feels like a significant percentage of his goals come from pouncing on defensive mistakes.

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tsf - 8 Nov 2022 2:37 PM
jaymz - 8 Nov 2022 1:18 PM

Well it did travel for what seemed like ten years to sit on the bench nearly every game - even the dead ones. I'd say he made big sacrifices already for the team., for zilch reward.

Its a bit of a unique situation due to COVID though with players missing out on 2 weeks with their family post games (something langerak didnt do). Post world cup i think he shoild come back, and potentially be first choice. But i dont think this time around its very fair to the other players. 

You run the risk of resentment running through the squad if he plays this tournament too.

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socceroos_rsdg - 8 Nov 2022 12:12 PM
Mr Cleansheets - 8 Nov 2022 10:36 AM

Getting real sick of the CCM fanboys, there a mid-table A-league team, half the squad can't be made up of players from there.

Hal the Socceroos squad came through Mariners lol Duke, Sains, Ryan, Rogic, probably even more. They clearly know how to bring talent through.
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jaymz - 8 Nov 2022 2:56 PM
tsf - 8 Nov 2022 2:37 PM

Its a bit of a unique situation due to COVID though with players missing out on 2 weeks with their family post games (something langerak didnt do). Post world cup i think he shoild come back, and potentially be first choice. But i dont think this time around its very fair to the other players. 

You run the risk of resentment running through the squad if he plays this tournament too.

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Its a bit of a unique situation due to COVID though with players missing out on 2 weeks with their family post games (something langerak didnt do). Post world cup i think he shoild come back, and potentially be first choice. But i dont think this time around its very fair to the other players. 

You run the risk of resentment running through the squad if he plays this tournament too.


I can take that view, but then I cannot agree with JMAC or Rogic being included. They left us at the most crucial time possible. At least langerak gave warning and didn't leave as at the last second. 

Their actions were potentially and arguably more self absorbed.
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patjennings - 8 Nov 2022 2:50 PM
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I always thought of Mitch as a great 'shot-stopper' but less so as a 'sweeper-keeper' - which we will need given the amount of defence we will be doing and the injuries at CB we are carrying into the tournament. Surely he has progressed in that area over the years - though I must admit I haven't watched him. J-League keeper of the year suggests he can't be doing too much wrong.

Did the sports scientists chat to him? Does the 6-0 against France still haunt him?

When was the decision made and by whom? He didn't get game time against NZ. Was that when the decision was made. 

Whatever the reasoning he has claim to be our best keeper at the moment - nailed on as one of the best two. With an injury cloud hanging over Maty it seems a very strange decision.  

I am not entirely sure who our best overall is...but without a doubt - the best we have over the last year or so and playing the most is Langerak. 
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Whoever is chosen, I'm just glad we are there, hopeful that we will get out of the group, but realistically hoping that we perform well and at least score a few goals. 

With a year to the Asian Cup there will be a further refresh of the squad and there is some bright young talent coming through. 
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Your last point @ pat jennings is what worries me. if Ryan is out - who next? I think even Sydney FC fans would be afraid of the prospect of Redmayne between the sticks against france 
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Do we know yet if press conference will be streamed or televised, or is team just going to be dumped on the Socceroos Twitter account? 
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