First goal was horrendous defending? Did the marker get lost or something. Not only was he not close enough he seemed to run even further away when the ball was in the air. (Or am I imagining that?)

Yep Cros just don’t have it up front but Thankyou for the Complete game against Brazil that was epic and great to see Neymar etc booted out.

All jokes aside at least we gave Argentina a proper run for their money. Maybe they've gotten better as the tournament has gone on but our last 20 rattled them for sure.

Bad luck mate, another nice run by this country of 4 million, amazing, just amazing. However, while they showed good skills on the ball, they showed nothing in attack.
Oh & yeah that little guy in the Argentina no 10 shirt is kinda special.

Modric at the end coming on to shake hands was nice. Complete contrast to the flogs Neymar, Suarez and Ronaldo. Sooks, Prima Donnnas, cheats and divers.

yer cheers bud, I'm always amazed Portugal for 10M odd punch above their weight for the amount of top liners produced the last 10yrs but Croatia pound for pound excides most with just 4M - its a shame now most of this gen is at the end of their cycle whereas Port has alot at ages looking ahead post CR7.
Messi picking up the ball on the sideline near halfway to advance forward then twist and turn and use of his body on one of the form CB's Gvardiol who's hardly put a foot wrong just shows his class period setting that chance up for Alvarez.
In turn prior smash's that pen with aplumb despite the decision being soft thats the game. 

UK pundits arguing a lot and split. 

UK pundits, especially ex players, would be the last people I would listen too.  I swear they have their own interpretations of the laws of the game, either that or they have their own laws.

As an ex keeper I would expect a penalty to be given in that circumstance. Striker gets to the ball first, attempting to guess what he might do I throw my leg out to cover where he might play it but the striker lifts it over me. Unfortunately my leg lands in the strikers path as he tries to run past me.  Not deliberate but I did move into his path.

he's a class act

lots of players have shown that they are utterly classless this WC

Am I the only one but I just don' care about the Morocco underdog story? Every Moroccan I've come across is generally shifty as a shithouse rat lol 

Sorry, semi-rant over. Maybe that should be in unpopular opinions thread,

Lol Maguire is not one of the best CBs in the world. He is consistently very shaky defensively. The second France goal happened because he inexplicably decided to leave Giroud open in the box to go cover another player. 

It's kind of frustrating that you make these statements as though they're facts while openly admitting that you don't actually watch any football outside of 3 minute highlights of WC games. It's also kind of interesting. Why don't you like watching football? You certainly like talking about it. 

Southgate is far too conservative and has never got the best out of this group of superstars. Your analysis of him is ridiculously fawning and overrates him massively.

When I mentioned Haaland, etc, I was responding to your statement that (I think) you were making that facing France was a higher level than anything he has faced at club level with Man U. What I was saying was that those club combinations (Haaland etc for Man C, Kane etc for Spurs) that Maguire has faced are, arguably, at a similar level to France this WC, irrespective of whether individual players were at the WC or how they performed at the WC.

ofcourse they are better unit than pre Southgate, not hard to do being the NT was quite toxic prior due to opposing players large ego's getting in the way of the cause and weak management then and before.
They have been the could be NT for decades And they are right now again with Southgate despite working far better as a unit and improved unit play.
Ofcourse the play would be improved looked where all the players are in Club land in the modern game, most in top 6 clubs with todays brilliant coaching.
That article was not about stats/figures but of why are they floundering with so so much talent at hand, on paper they have a better team than the French - forget Kane missing the pen their midfield and attack is as good and better generally across the park.
Southgate, played too safe starting up with Hendo.
Rice should have pushed higher in the French half, Foden could have been used more, brough inside more for he is a damn top attacking player as mentioned.
They had more possesion
More shots
More corners
Over 100 more pass's
So they matched and bettered a French team that many believe will be through to the final let alone win it.

In the end the French were lucky to get away with it.
Greizman is 20/30% down what he used to be but with age like Messi has changed his game to suit not being as quick as they used to be and Deschamps figured that out how best to use him, playing a 10 distributer role, again as mentioned in the article why not have brouigh Foden doing similar for they are right and would have been a smart move by Southgate but takes him off and puts on a miss firing Sterling, a out of sorts Grealish and a which Rashford is turning up today.

As we know you don't watch EPL - Maguire has been a embarrasment many times at United, infact a stage not even in the starting line up, some errors leading to that was League 3 proportions and his postioning much the same woeful.
As keeper66 mentioned in the EPL he faces attacking players to Mbappe standards weekly, looked at goose many times.
He had somewhat recovered some kind of form pre WC but mainly because United are lacking with quality reserves.
United defense is 20GA @ 14games played, the top 3, 2 with 11 the other @ 14.
He is no where near one of the best CB's in the world, an overpaid one more than anything else good luck to him But he does seem to manage doing a better job at the NT level.

Southgates results are similar to Woy, back to Erickson, get deeper into tournaments, yes he made it to the Euro final but came up short at home/Wembley of all places.
They sure didn't have the richs or lets say the co hesion Southgate has had the last few years but its looking a little similar to Martinez's Belguim GG in reflection, so so much promise and its 6yrs under Southgate.

Richarlison faded actually as Brazil went deeper in Cup, when they needed him the most in the Croatia game to press like mad he couldn't, I believe was suffering from a minor quad or something injury but he wasn't the same player seen through the Grp stage.
Tite blundered as well having one of the most balanced Brazilian teams in a long time and has stepped down, I think its time the 3Lions got a more aggressive Coach that will unleash his Cubs imo.

Ah, so it’s a word that only exists in Decentric’s own personal dictionary.

What does casuaristic mean, Decentric?

yer cheers bud, I'm always amazed Portugal for 10M odd punch above their weight for the amount of top liners produced the last 10yrs but Croatia pound for pound excides most with just 4M - its a shame now most of this gen is at the end of their cycle whereas Port has alot at ages looking ahead post CR7.

Every French person I've met has been the quintessential wanker. I have no idea how we always end up on the same side in wars

france 1-0 already, huge game and huge support for morocco but they have to play the game not the occasion

Every French person I've met has been the quintessential wanker. I have no idea how we always end up on the same side in wars