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+xCan we look to keep this important discussion without the abuse, those throwing it out are behaving no better than those few who were in the wrong at the game. Our game needs both old and new football to finally come to party and it needs both sides of supporters as well. Both have good and bad points - the game overall needs the NSD and those Clubs involved will have to pick up their game/act in many ways meeting todays demands, thats what its going to take otherwise no point, old football has the chance to re invent itself and we need it big time........ Lets move on from the Welcome to the Country, unfortunately we have watched many people during the National Anthem being disrespectful as well for years, long before WTTC. Disrecpect is ingrained in a % of people, more today imo than in the past. This will never change. however the Welcome to country & australian anthem was never booed at the game, that was media lies. There is videos all over online to prove that now as well. https://www.news.com.au/sport/football/new-footage-appears-to-debunk-fan-act-from-australia-cup/news-story/c044a82cb77a3a984faf6bca77613751
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+x+x+x+xCan't believe there is ~6 pages and counting of morons trying to defend or justify what happened on Saturday night. There is no defending or justifying it and I hope the book is thrown at SU58. Anyone got any thoughts on the actual game? Thought Arzani looked great over the first 60 or so mins. Also impressed by DDS in a much deeper role than I'm used to seeing him. Couldn't care less what Mono or Davstar etc have to say about the rest of it. I thought SU having just had 39% possesion was doing a masterclass defensively as expected against a very good attacking pro team.Arzani wish he would finish something but thats not his thing but going forward did well, DDS has always been a smart little player, playing deeper gave him more time. Expected them to play SU off the park sooner or later but didn't occur. Hoping another NPL Club makes it to the final next season for its great popcorn and roosty can just copy paste posts from this season. Agree mate, Did you go to the game? The young Greek lad and Vlastelica in defence where very cool calm and collected. I also liked what Agamemnonas did on the wing and in the change over ... quite a smart player but it took Trifiro to come on and drop a little deeper to make any meaningful foray into the half... I thought SU played 15-20 mins of very pretty football... well done to them. Bad timing I was in Italy at the time But we watched it "live"......... Trifiro is the wily ol gun every team needs, hindsight probably should have got on earlier, his performances the last few games has been good to watch. Others mentioned put in their shifts big time. Trifiro's problem was fitness he wasnt going to last more than 60min, he had some personal time off as his wife gave birth.
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lol there are literally pictures of multiple people doing nazi salutes on the night, just not that one porky kid, there are multiple ustashi flags plus there is nazi imagery repurposed as fan banners. How is the multiple pictures over the years with united fans doing salutes or next to nazi flags going to be rewritten? The more they don't get their house in order and the more they play victims the more they're just going to hang themselves. As I said, in the Balkans people shake their heads at the accepted level of it here: https://balkaninsight.com/2019/09/10/in-australia-some-croats-openly-celebrate-fascism/
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+xCan we look to keep this important discussion without the abuse, those throwing it out are behaving no better than those few who were in the wrong at the game. Our game needs both old and new football to finally come to party and it needs both sides of supporters as well. Both have good and bad points - the game overall needs the NSD and those Clubs involved will have to pick up their game/act in many ways meeting todays demands, thats what its going to take otherwise no point, old football has the chance to re invent itself and we need it big time........ Lets move on from the Welcome to the Country, unfortunately we have watched many people during the National Anthem being disrespectful as well for years, long before WTTC. Disrecpect is ingrained in a % of people, more today imo than in the past. This will never change. Agreed. No one wins here, especially football in the long run.
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+xAnthony Mundine could be white as the whitest snow and he'd still be the biggest flog of all time. Definitely nothing to do with race and everything to do with being a giant dickhead.Don't know enough about Adam Goodes but seems there may have been a racist element to it. Besides a whole bunch of people who just didn't want to be told not to boo him. From memory the booing really stepped up a notch after they came out and said it needs to stop. Mundine played the race card saying he was left out of the Australian team when Dale Shearer (he of the Indigenous team of the Century) was picked in front of him.
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+xlol there are literally pictures of multiple people doing nazi salutes on the night, just not that one porky kid, there are multiple ustashi flags plus there is nazi imagery repurposed as fan banners. How is the multiple pictures over the years with united fans doing salutes or next to nazi flags going to be rewritten? The more they don't get their house in order and the more they play victims the more they're just going to hang themselves. As I said, in the Balkans people shake their heads at the accepted level of it here: https://balkaninsight.com/2019/09/10/in-australia-some-croats-openly-celebrate-fascism/ A lot more people on twitter seem to be making excuses for it rather than condemning it which is rather sad.
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+xlol there are literally pictures of multiple people doing nazi salutes on the night, just not that one porky kid, there are multiple ustashi flags plus there is nazi imagery repurposed as fan banners. How is the multiple pictures over the years with united fans doing salutes or next to nazi flags going to be rewritten? The more they don't get their house in order and the more they play victims the more they're just going to hang themselves. As I said, in the Balkans people shake their heads at the accepted level of it here: https://balkaninsight.com/2019/09/10/in-australia-some-croats-openly-celebrate-fascism/ A bit off topic but I read this in that article. In a speaking tour called “Croatia Uncensored”, Vukic, Glasnovic and others visited Croatian clubs around Australia to discuss a variety of controversial topics, including the “the myth and lies of Jasenovac”, a concentration camp established by the Ustasa in WWII. The number of those who perished in the camp is regularly disputed by right-wing politicians and commentators in Croatia.
If you want to be sick to the stomach do a little light reading on Jasenovac. One of the grimmest things ever to happen in WW2. So grim that even visiting Germans were disgusted by the goings on there.
To deny something like this is akin to denying the holocaust. (Which of course fuckwits do.)
Don't get me wrong I'm not here to bash Croats. I'm not anti-Croat. My dad was Croat, I have relatives in Croatia, I've been there 4 times but FFS these clowns need to sort their shit out.
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+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x[quote]Yep, getting sick of these welcome to country ceremonies infiltrating every sporting, cultural and community event nowdays. Don’t see the need for them. They’re losing impact and kind of dragging on a bit like last night’s one did. Do you have a problem with the maori haka? Everyone seems to love it and has cultural significance in NZ. How is the Welcome to Country any different from an indigenous cultural perspective here? Football in Australia is known for its embracing of cultures from all over the world. Most of it is fantastic. Some of it is bad (ie. Sydney United on Saturday night). What our sport doesn’t do very well is getting our first nations people to play Football. Some of the skills they posses in other sports would suggest indigenous Australians would be great at Football. You only need to look as far as Sam Kerr of course. Embracing indigenous culture with things such as Welcome to Country at matches may get more of them interested in playing our sport, and that can only be a good thing. But if you wanna be a snowflake by getting triggered about random "woke" stuff (which is what people like you would label it as), that’s your problem. The rest of us will just get on with it. Yeah you’re 100% right about football in Australia being known for its embracing of cultures from all over the world……except if your club happens to have a Greek, Italian, Croatian, Macedonian or any other migrant background. In that case the well known racist phrase ‘fuck off we’re full’ applies to you. Football Australia hides behind all this inclusivity, diversity and WTC rubbish whilst clubs tagged ‘ethnic’ are left rotting away and made to feel like outsiders so spare me with your lets get more indigenous people involved in our beautiful and inclusive game. Fark man, stop pointing out the truth about society's warmth, many prefer to live in a fantasy world and think its all beautiful, like afl. Btw, welcome to country fellow citizens, even if you were born here, are land owners and pay hefty taxes that go to all sorts of causes, desirable or not. Be sure to come in, take your shoes off, stay alittle then kindly leave, as I don't want to put up with your visitation for too long. Have a great stay. To some, a smoke ceremony is seen as a pagan ritual. Not accepted by everyone, seen as woke as well, being imposed upon athletes, from here or overseas coming to compete, having to put up with it. Leave to keyboard warriors like you to tell us what the truth is. Truly sorry to try to make the world a better place instead of leaving at the status quo & see us continue down the same downward path. A better place? Someone welcoming an Australian citizen by another Australian citizen Why? You are the sort of bloke that goes with any flow, just so you conform to anything that is thrown at you, a people pleaser. This country is everyone's not indigenous primarily. This is a woke thing. Let's have a European welcoming on the next occasion, something wholesome, and ceremonial. Why not? Infact let's cut to the chase, the Orthodox and Catholics burn incense and kiss icons of Saints, there are the Rosary beads and Mary, or the Eucharist drinking ceremony. A smoke ceremony for one, can be viewed as a culturally religious thing, It's not accepted by everyone as others have different beliefs to that kind of ceremony and don't want to partake. Still, booing is not my go. Very very simple open your eyes, it's sad when I see so many with their eyes closed walking around thinking one is better then another. Yes, so why is one culture subconciously maming and strong arming other cultures with a supposed superiority for? Why did this ceremony start in the first place and what's the indirect message to having the ceremony? Have a debate, soon. Open it up to other cultures. I want to see abit of drinking communion from the Eucharist served by a pastor, on the field, on TV before the ALeague grand final this season. Foster plays the racist card for those that don't want to participate in listening to that indigenous message. I feel he and others in return are racist for not taking the communion on grand final day like I suggested on the field, on TV. Why is your better? The Nationai Anthem states: Australian ALL let us rejoice, for we are ONE and free. We were not 'ONE' and free 2 years ago, we were 'Young' and free, a country that is over 5000 years old, only young from European people. Why is law in Queensland to lock up a drunk Indigenous person, but if you are drunk & were white or Chinese or Arab, you are told to go home? Why do people refuse to sit next them on buses? Why are the likes of Anthony Mundine & Adam Goodes more disliked (even hated) then your normal equally highly opinionated white sportsmen? Why are they not accepted in their own country? Why not walk in their shoes for awhile to understand. As a kid, I used to kick the rugby League ball and play footy occasionally with two Indigenous brothers in my street until they moved. Two other guys of my european background, alittle older wanted me to join them and hang out instead. I, as a youg fella thought about it but nah, I stayed with the two indigenous guys, even though one of the boys just mucking around pissed on my foot for afew seconds. Being kind hearted that I am, I saw the funny side. So I am not against other cultures and I don't want them forced upon me. I cannot pretend to be indigenous, I don't owe anyone anything and I don't want to share in customs I don't believe in. Rack off, keep walking! When did I accuse of this? I said this is what happened to the indigenous people of this land, I didn't say you or did or did not do it. There are women being raped & being bashed every day, just because you & I didn't do it, doesn't mean we can't feel sympathy for them & agree with the actions being taken to improve the safety of women in our society. I'm not indigenous & no-one is forcing it on you, they just want to accepted in their own country. I don't understand this 'I don't do it, it happened 200 years ago, so it doesn't exist & don't understand why they play the victim. Talk about walking, walk a mile in their shoes.
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+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+xYou gotta love Sydney United fans… They didn’t boo the welcome to country they booed the opposition.. They weren’t Nazi salutes they were waving hi to their nonnas… They weren’t chanting za don spremni they were singing “ we adore Sydney” They weren’t cans of zyklon b they were collecting money for charity… Does anyone honestly think certain Aleague fan groups would NOT have openly booed a middle aged bird waffling on about stuff they have no interest in? The same bloke who whinges like a crazy dog because his sad little ethnic team can't play in the top tier of football complains about our indigenous people having a right to have a say. Says everything about you. Maybe I should objectify young women like you eh you boring old fart? Yeah whatever!!!! I've got football to watch the A-league & the World cup, enjoy your Mediterranean games in the NPL you arsewipe. Tsk, tsk what would your elders, past, present and emerging have to say about such blatant racism? Doesnt sound very welcoming to me to describe a bunch of clubs founded by migrants to these shores so dismissively as "Mediterranean games" especially not the ones founded by Britons, North Macedonians, Portuguese for example. Keep spinning those wheels turbo, your outrage is only going to make the uniting of ALL clubs in Australia so much sweeter when/if it finally happens.... There is no outrage on my part, I'm going to the football this Saturday night to watch the mighty SFC smash those AFL loving Melbourians (victory). I'm going with all my Aussie mates, whose forefathers range from Portuguese, Serbian, English, Dutch, Croatian, Italian, Irish, Ukrainians & yes even a few Greeks, one or two even have some Aboriginal blood, but we all Aussies cheering for an Aussie team without feeling like a victim. Thats a lot of mates there turbo, sounds like you'll have a lot of fun. Hope they are not ALL imaginary and at least one or two of them are real people. Enjoy your "Super Blue Bash Bonanza" or whatever you plastics call the first round of your pretend summer series these days. For your sake I hope hooligans from the Cave or Horta dont decide to try and outdo the part timers from a poor little Mediterranean league and spoil the Aussie atmosphere for you. I doubt they could even if they tried, looked like those guys ringing cow bells and Mexican shirts for some reason only numbered like 300 or so max.... You are struggling mate, I'm sorry, no AFL, no NPL no Greece in WC (but then you should be used to that, even the pathetic Australian A -League has produced more WCs than Greece!!! Enjoy your mediocrity. NPL season just finished a month ago turbo, its called the off season, it will be back in Feb.... no biggie. In the meantime there is EPL, Serie A and Greek Super League on my telly so absolutely no struggle at all .... WC will be a fascinating watch too, looking forward to the A-League all stars performing on the world stage since you mention mediocrity.... Hope your multicultural friends dont get too disappointed by the "uniqueness" My multicultural friends are all Aussies, we all have our heritage & we all proud of it & has moved on from the victim mentality you still have. We all want the Socceroos to do well & have a 2nd team in our forefathers country, all except my Greek friend, he always misses out. I think you need to jump on the internet and actually understand what "multiculturalism" is turbo.. I know its a big word but to dumb it down for you it you actually need "multiple" "cultures" celebrating themselves to work correctly. Suppressing cultural expression of self identity is actually the Opposite of what you think you are portraying... do better. Oh my, rich, me going to football with people of multiple backgrounds, talking football, World cup & cheering for my local Aussie team is not multiculturalism. You wanting Australian football to allow you to go to the football with all your Greek friends, eating Souvlaki, chanting Hellas & discussing your next trip to Athens is multiculturalism. Blow me another one arsewipe.
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so much attention for one "alleged" salute lol
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+xAnthony Mundine could be white as the whitest snow and he'd still be the biggest flog of all time. Definitely nothing to do with race and everything to do with being a giant dickhead. Don't know enough about Adam Goodes but seems there may have been a racist element to it. Besides a whole bunch of people who just didn't want to be told not to boo him. From memory the booing really stepped up a notch after they came out and said it needs to stop. I'm not defending Mundine, yes he is a dickhead, egotisic one, even a C@NT as someone else said. However, imo, the NRL has their fair of dickheads, who perform far worse things than Mundine, like domestic violence, bar room brawls (talking repeated offenders), rape & other criminal offences. Mundine is none of that, he has string faith, he doesn't drink, he doesn't hurt women, yes, he is an oversized egotistic dickhead & rubs people the wrong way, but he is not a disgrace to society, yet is so disliked to the extent that he is the most hated Rugby league player. Maybe my values are just different. Again just to clarify, he comes across a dickhead, a giant one at that.
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+xso much attention for one "alleged" salute lol Don't forget that that's one part. The club have a show cause notice for other incidents they need to respond to by Friday, Maybe handing him over was part of a deal. Time will tell.
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+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+xYou gotta love Sydney United fans… They didn’t boo the welcome to country they booed the opposition.. They weren’t Nazi salutes they were waving hi to their nonnas… They weren’t chanting za don spremni they were singing “ we adore Sydney” They weren’t cans of zyklon b they were collecting money for charity… Does anyone honestly think certain Aleague fan groups would NOT have openly booed a middle aged bird waffling on about stuff they have no interest in? The same bloke who whinges like a crazy dog because his sad little ethnic team can't play in the top tier of football complains about our indigenous people having a right to have a say. Says everything about you. Maybe I should objectify young women like you eh you boring old fart? Yeah whatever!!!! I've got football to watch the A-league & the World cup, enjoy your Mediterranean games in the NPL you arsewipe. Tsk, tsk what would your elders, past, present and emerging have to say about such blatant racism? Doesnt sound very welcoming to me to describe a bunch of clubs founded by migrants to these shores so dismissively as "Mediterranean games" especially not the ones founded by Britons, North Macedonians, Portuguese for example. Keep spinning those wheels turbo, your outrage is only going to make the uniting of ALL clubs in Australia so much sweeter when/if it finally happens.... There is no outrage on my part, I'm going to the football this Saturday night to watch the mighty SFC smash those AFL loving Melbourians (victory). I'm going with all my Aussie mates, whose forefathers range from Portuguese, Serbian, English, Dutch, Croatian, Italian, Irish, Ukrainians & yes even a few Greeks, one or two even have some Aboriginal blood, but we all Aussies cheering for an Aussie team without feeling like a victim. Thats a lot of mates there turbo, sounds like you'll have a lot of fun. Hope they are not ALL imaginary and at least one or two of them are real people. Enjoy your "Super Blue Bash Bonanza" or whatever you plastics call the first round of your pretend summer series these days. For your sake I hope hooligans from the Cave or Horta dont decide to try and outdo the part timers from a poor little Mediterranean league and spoil the Aussie atmosphere for you. I doubt they could even if they tried, looked like those guys ringing cow bells and Mexican shirts for some reason only numbered like 300 or so max.... You are struggling mate, I'm sorry, no AFL, no NPL no Greece in WC (but then you should be used to that, even the pathetic Australian A -League has produced more WCs than Greece!!! Enjoy your mediocrity. NPL season just finished a month ago turbo, its called the off season, it will be back in Feb.... no biggie. In the meantime there is EPL, Serie A and Greek Super League on my telly so absolutely no struggle at all .... WC will be a fascinating watch too, looking forward to the A-League all stars performing on the world stage since you mention mediocrity.... Hope your multicultural friends dont get too disappointed by the "uniqueness" My multicultural friends are all Aussies, we all have our heritage & we all proud of it & has moved on from the victim mentality you still have. We all want the Socceroos to do well & have a 2nd team in our forefathers country, all except my Greek friend, he always misses out. I think you need to jump on the internet and actually understand what "multiculturalism" is turbo.. I know its a big word but to dumb it down for you it you actually need "multiple" "cultures" celebrating themselves to work correctly. Suppressing cultural expression of self identity is actually the Opposite of what you think you are portraying... do better. Oh my, rich, me going to football with people of multiple backgrounds, talking football, World cup & cheering for my local Aussie team is not multiculturalism. You wanting Australian football to allow you to go to the football with all your Greek friends, eating Souvlaki, chanting Hellas & discussing your next trip to Athens is multiculturalism. Blow me another one arsewipe. I aint touching you with a 40 foot pole you dirty old Neanderthall. Yes both your attempts at sentences above are EXACTLY what I am saying.... Learn a little bit about the topic you are trying to argue before making yourself look even more disgusting than you are. Ill give you the basic Wikepedia definition as anything a little more evolved may melt your tiny little mind and that of your imaginary polyethnic friends. Those last 7 words must really be hard to understand eh?: "The term multiculturalism has a range of meanings within the contexts of sociology, political philosophy, and colloquial use. In sociology and in everyday usage, it is a synonym for " ethnic pluralism", with the two terms often used interchangeably, and for cultural pluralism[1] in which various ethnic groups collaborate and enter into a dialogue with one another without having to sacrifice their particular identities. "
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+x+xAnthony Mundine could be white as the whitest snow and he'd still be the biggest flog of all time. Definitely nothing to do with race and everything to do with being a giant dickhead. Don't know enough about Adam Goodes but seems there may have been a racist element to it. Besides a whole bunch of people who just didn't want to be told not to boo him. From memory the booing really stepped up a notch after they came out and said it needs to stop. I'm not defending Mundine, yes he is a dickhead, egotisic one, even a C@NT as someone else said. However, imo, the NRL has their fair of dickheads, who perform far worse things than Mundine, like domestic violence, bar room brawls (talking repeated offenders), rape & other criminal offences. Mundine is none of that, he has string faith, he doesn't drink, he doesn't hurt women, yes, he is an oversized egotistic dickhead & rubs people the wrong way, but he is not a disgrace to society, yet is so disliked to the extent that he is the most hated Rugby league player. Maybe my values are just different. Again just to clarify, he comes across a dickhead, a giant one at that. The NRL is full of flogs but they are never as mouthy as Mundine is/was. He is a world champion at that. As for shit behaviour just yesterday some NRL Islander bloke belts up his missus and they interview the bloke's dad and he's 'well she hid his passport'. FFS. And that was just one incident of many over the last 3 days.
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+xso much attention for one "alleged" salute lol What about the ‘alleged’ chants?
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+x+xso much attention for one "alleged" salute lol What about the ‘alleged’ chants? What about it?
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Love the "new" FA's concern about actions disrespecting, hurting and offending members of our football community... Powerful language if they really mean it. Hope retrospective life bans apply to the authors of the NCIP, the architects of "New football vs Old Soccer", the various inflammatory "effnik this" and "effnik that" statements coming from the rapidly diminishing Australian stakeholders in the franchise arena.
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Regardless of the outcome of investigations , good luck finding sponsors for the talked- about new "second tier" competition after this .. .
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+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x[quote]Yep, getting sick of these welcome to country ceremonies infiltrating every sporting, cultural and community event nowdays. Don’t see the need for them. They’re losing impact and kind of dragging on a bit like last night’s one did. Do you have a problem with the maori haka? Everyone seems to love it and has cultural significance in NZ. How is the Welcome to Country any different from an indigenous cultural perspective here? Football in Australia is known for its embracing of cultures from all over the world. Most of it is fantastic. Some of it is bad (ie. Sydney United on Saturday night). What our sport doesn’t do very well is getting our first nations people to play Football. Some of the skills they posses in other sports would suggest indigenous Australians would be great at Football. You only need to look as far as Sam Kerr of course. Embracing indigenous culture with things such as Welcome to Country at matches may get more of them interested in playing our sport, and that can only be a good thing. But if you wanna be a snowflake by getting triggered about random "woke" stuff (which is what people like you would label it as), that’s your problem. The rest of us will just get on with it. Yeah you’re 100% right about football in Australia being known for its embracing of cultures from all over the world……except if your club happens to have a Greek, Italian, Croatian, Macedonian or any other migrant background. In that case the well known racist phrase ‘fuck off we’re full’ applies to you. Football Australia hides behind all this inclusivity, diversity and WTC rubbish whilst clubs tagged ‘ethnic’ are left rotting away and made to feel like outsiders so spare me with your lets get more indigenous people involved in our beautiful and inclusive game. Fark man, stop pointing out the truth about society's warmth, many prefer to live in a fantasy world and think its all beautiful, like afl. Btw, welcome to country fellow citizens, even if you were born here, are land owners and pay hefty taxes that go to all sorts of causes, desirable or not. Be sure to come in, take your shoes off, stay alittle then kindly leave, as I don't want to put up with your visitation for too long. Have a great stay. To some, a smoke ceremony is seen as a pagan ritual. Not accepted by everyone, seen as woke as well, being imposed upon athletes, from here or overseas coming to compete, having to put up with it. Leave to keyboard warriors like you to tell us what the truth is. Truly sorry to try to make the world a better place instead of leaving at the status quo & see us continue down the same downward path. A better place? Someone welcoming an Australian citizen by another Australian citizen Why? You are the sort of bloke that goes with any flow, just so you conform to anything that is thrown at you, a people pleaser. This country is everyone's not indigenous primarily. This is a woke thing. Let's have a European welcoming on the next occasion, something wholesome, and ceremonial. Why not? Infact let's cut to the chase, the Orthodox and Catholics burn incense and kiss icons of Saints, there are the Rosary beads and Mary, or the Eucharist drinking ceremony. A smoke ceremony for one, can be viewed as a culturally religious thing, It's not accepted by everyone as others have different beliefs to that kind of ceremony and don't want to partake. Still, booing is not my go. Very very simple open your eyes, it's sad when I see so many with their eyes closed walking around thinking one is better then another. Yes, so why is one culture subconciously maming and strong arming other cultures with a supposed superiority for? Why did this ceremony start in the first place and what's the indirect message to having the ceremony? Have a debate, soon. Open it up to other cultures. I want to see abit of drinking communion from the Eucharist served by a pastor, on the field, on TV before the ALeague grand final this season. Foster plays the racist card for those that don't want to participate in listening to that indigenous message. I feel he and others in return are racist for not taking the communion on grand final day like I suggested on the field, on TV. Why is your better? The Nationai Anthem states: Australian ALL let us rejoice, for we are ONE and free. We were not 'ONE' and free 2 years ago, we were 'Young' and free, a country that is over 5000 years old, only young from European people. Why is law in Queensland to lock up a drunk Indigenous person, but if you are drunk & were white or Chinese or Arab, you are told to go home? Why do people refuse to sit next them on buses? Why are the likes of Anthony Mundine & Adam Goodes more disliked (even hated) then your normal equally highly opinionated white sportsmen? Why are they not accepted in their own country? Why not walk in their shoes for awhile to understand. As a kid, I used to kick the rugby League ball and play footy occasionally with two Indigenous brothers in my street until they moved. Two other guys of my european background, alittle older wanted me to join them and hang out instead. I, as a youg fella thought about it but nah, I stayed with the two indigenous guys, even though one of the boys just mucking around pissed on my foot for afew seconds. Being kind hearted that I am, I saw the funny side. So I am not against other cultures and I don't want them forced upon me. I cannot pretend to be indigenous, I don't owe anyone anything and I don't want to share in customs I don't believe in. Rack off, keep walking! When did I accuse of this? I said this is what happened to the indigenous people of this land, I didn't say you or did or did not do it. There are women being raped & being bashed every day, just because you & I didn't do it, doesn't mean we can't feel sympathy for them & agree with the actions being taken to improve the safety of women in our society. I'm not indigenous & no-one is forcing it on you, they just want to accepted in their own country. I don't understand this 'I don't do it, it happened 200 years ago, so it doesn't exist & don't understand why they play the victim. Talk about walking, walk a mile in their shoes. I dont want to walk a mile in anyone elses shoes. I dont owe another culture anything, they dont owe me. I don't agree with this ceremony, as they dont want to engage in my requests for a ceremony, so I don't want to with theirs. It is their business, not mine nothing to do with sport. With anyone that has experienced those atrocious things that you mention, Police and the Justice system must take over and control that. Also, the culprits must not be protected by they're own society, or by anyone else either. That topic is way over mine and your pay grade. Indigenous culture is accepted, also remember that the national anthem was changed for more inclusiveness, Ayers Rock was given back and a name change, a hoard of land is now under Indigenous title through Mabo, I had my buddies years ago playing footy, where is the problem? All cultures have problems, like new Australians trying to fit in, find work, get racially abused and even bashed. Multiple ultras with hitler arian salutes at Australian football sporting matches, see it happens in many cultures.
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+xso much attention for one "alleged" salute lol Not sure whether your reply is cynical or not but I’ll give you the doubt. In my view one salute is one too many!! Fact...my father and brothers and uncles and grandfather and his brothers all fought for this land and freedom and some paid with their life.
If a person doesn’t find fascist slogans, chants, salutes repulsive then they do not understand the freedom we have and cherish. Ukrainians are fighting for theirs right now. It still happens.
Anyone who has been associated with football as a player, coach, admin would know codes of conduct must be respected.
So I suggest all these clowns, no thugs, have never got off their arses to do anything to assist the game but carry on like morons.
life ban for every single one of them.
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No real football fan will miss them.
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+x+xso much attention for one "alleged" salute lol Not sure whether your reply is cynical or not but I’ll give you the doubt. In my view one salute is one too many!! Fact...my father and brothers and uncles and grandfather and his brothers all fought for this land and freedom and some paid with their life.
If a person doesn’t find fascist slogans, chants, salutes repulsive then they do not understand the freedom we have and cherish. Ukrainians are fighting for theirs right now. It still happens.
Anyone who has been associated with football as a player, coach, admin would know codes of conduct must be respected.
So I suggest all these clowns, no thugs, have never got off their arses to do anything to assist the game but carry on like morons.
life ban for every single one of them.
Cheers to that!
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+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+xYou gotta love Sydney United fans… They didn’t boo the welcome to country they booed the opposition.. They weren’t Nazi salutes they were waving hi to their nonnas… They weren’t chanting za don spremni they were singing “ we adore Sydney” They weren’t cans of zyklon b they were collecting money for charity… Does anyone honestly think certain Aleague fan groups would NOT have openly booed a middle aged bird waffling on about stuff they have no interest in? The same bloke who whinges like a crazy dog because his sad little ethnic team can't play in the top tier of football complains about our indigenous people having a right to have a say. Says everything about you. Maybe I should objectify young women like you eh you boring old fart? Yeah whatever!!!! I've got football to watch the A-league & the World cup, enjoy your Mediterranean games in the NPL you arsewipe. Tsk, tsk what would your elders, past, present and emerging have to say about such blatant racism? Doesnt sound very welcoming to me to describe a bunch of clubs founded by migrants to these shores so dismissively as "Mediterranean games" especially not the ones founded by Britons, North Macedonians, Portuguese for example. Keep spinning those wheels turbo, your outrage is only going to make the uniting of ALL clubs in Australia so much sweeter when/if it finally happens.... There is no outrage on my part, I'm going to the football this Saturday night to watch the mighty SFC smash those AFL loving Melbourians (victory). I'm going with all my Aussie mates, whose forefathers range from Portuguese, Serbian, English, Dutch, Croatian, Italian, Irish, Ukrainians & yes even a few Greeks, one or two even have some Aboriginal blood, but we all Aussies cheering for an Aussie team without feeling like a victim. Thats a lot of mates there turbo, sounds like you'll have a lot of fun. Hope they are not ALL imaginary and at least one or two of them are real people. Enjoy your "Super Blue Bash Bonanza" or whatever you plastics call the first round of your pretend summer series these days. For your sake I hope hooligans from the Cave or Horta dont decide to try and outdo the part timers from a poor little Mediterranean league and spoil the Aussie atmosphere for you. I doubt they could even if they tried, looked like those guys ringing cow bells and Mexican shirts for some reason only numbered like 300 or so max.... You are struggling mate, I'm sorry, no AFL, no NPL no Greece in WC (but then you should be used to that, even the pathetic Australian A -League has produced more WCs than Greece!!! Enjoy your mediocrity. NPL season just finished a month ago turbo, its called the off season, it will be back in Feb.... no biggie. In the meantime there is EPL, Serie A and Greek Super League on my telly so absolutely no struggle at all .... WC will be a fascinating watch too, looking forward to the A-League all stars performing on the world stage since you mention mediocrity.... Hope your multicultural friends dont get too disappointed by the "uniqueness" My multicultural friends are all Aussies, we all have our heritage & we all proud of it & has moved on from the victim mentality you still have. We all want the Socceroos to do well & have a 2nd team in our forefathers country, all except my Greek friend, he always misses out. I think you need to jump on the internet and actually understand what "multiculturalism" is turbo.. I know its a big word but to dumb it down for you it you actually need "multiple" "cultures" celebrating themselves to work correctly. Suppressing cultural expression of self identity is actually the Opposite of what you think you are portraying... do better. Oh my, rich, me going to football with people of multiple backgrounds, talking football, World cup & cheering for my local Aussie team is not multiculturalism. You wanting Australian football to allow you to go to the football with all your Greek friends, eating Souvlaki, chanting Hellas & discussing your next trip to Athens is multiculturalism. Blow me another one arsewipe. I aint touching you with a 40 foot pole you dirty old Neanderthall. Yes both your attempts at sentences above are EXACTLY what I am saying.... Learn a little bit about the topic you are trying to argue before making yourself look even more disgusting than you are. Ill give you the basic Wikepedia definition as anything a little more evolved may melt your tiny little mind and that of your imaginary polyethnic friends. Those last 7 words must really be hard to understand eh?: "The term multiculturalism has a range of meanings within the contexts of sociology, political philosophy, and colloquial use. In sociology and in everyday usage, it is a synonym for " ethnic pluralism", with the two terms often used interchangeably, and for cultural pluralism[1] in which various ethnic groups collaborate and enter into a dialogue with one another without having to sacrifice their particular identities. " Wow, you got me. Go & enjoy your Greek food, don't forget the ouzo (love Ouzo) with your Greek club, playing other Greek clubs in the little Vic NPL. Enjoy arsewipe. I enjoy my form of multiculturalism with at the World Cup, where we can enjoy football from 32 different nations & I'll enjoy Aussie football in the A-League.
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+x+xso much attention for one "alleged" salute lol Not sure whether your reply is cynical or not but I’ll give you the doubt. In my view one salute is one too many!! Fact...my father and brothers and uncles and grandfather and his brothers all fought for this land and freedom and some paid with their life.
and so did our parents and brothers back in the communist Yugoslavia, should we now also give life bans to anyone in the HAL who wear the hammer and sickle T-shirts, Che Guevara etc. Communism killed over 100mill people but is widely accepted. The left of today are the real Fascists, such a tolerant bunch.
Not a Phase, Not a Trend, SYDNEY UNITED till the END!
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+x+x+xso much attention for one "alleged" salute lol Not sure whether your reply is cynical or not but I’ll give you the doubt. In my view one salute is one too many!! Fact...my father and brothers and uncles and grandfather and his brothers all fought for this land and freedom and some paid with their life.
and so did our parents and brothers back in the communist Yugoslavia, should we now also give life bans to anyone in the HAL who wear the hammer and sickle T-shirts, Che Guevara etc. Communism killed over 100mill people but is widely accepted.
Read that last sentence aloud, and see how stupid that sounds.
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+x+x+x+xso much attention for one "alleged" salute lol Not sure whether your reply is cynical or not but I’ll give you the doubt. In my view one salute is one too many!! Fact...my father and brothers and uncles and grandfather and his brothers all fought for this land and freedom and some paid with their life.
and so did our parents and brothers back in the communist Yugoslavia, should we now also give life bans to anyone in the HAL who wear the hammer and sickle T-shirts, Che Guevara etc. Communism killed over 100mill people but is widely accepted.
Read that last sentence aloud, and see how stupid that sounds. Well it is in North Korea!
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+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+xYou gotta love Sydney United fans… They didn’t boo the welcome to country they booed the opposition.. They weren’t Nazi salutes they were waving hi to their nonnas… They weren’t chanting za don spremni they were singing “ we adore Sydney” They weren’t cans of zyklon b they were collecting money for charity… Does anyone honestly think certain Aleague fan groups would NOT have openly booed a middle aged bird waffling on about stuff they have no interest in? The same bloke who whinges like a crazy dog because his sad little ethnic team can't play in the top tier of football complains about our indigenous people having a right to have a say. Says everything about you. Maybe I should objectify young women like you eh you boring old fart? Yeah whatever!!!! I've got football to watch the A-league & the World cup, enjoy your Mediterranean games in the NPL you arsewipe. Tsk, tsk what would your elders, past, present and emerging have to say about such blatant racism? Doesnt sound very welcoming to me to describe a bunch of clubs founded by migrants to these shores so dismissively as "Mediterranean games" especially not the ones founded by Britons, North Macedonians, Portuguese for example. Keep spinning those wheels turbo, your outrage is only going to make the uniting of ALL clubs in Australia so much sweeter when/if it finally happens.... There is no outrage on my part, I'm going to the football this Saturday night to watch the mighty SFC smash those AFL loving Melbourians (victory). I'm going with all my Aussie mates, whose forefathers range from Portuguese, Serbian, English, Dutch, Croatian, Italian, Irish, Ukrainians & yes even a few Greeks, one or two even have some Aboriginal blood, but we all Aussies cheering for an Aussie team without feeling like a victim. Thats a lot of mates there turbo, sounds like you'll have a lot of fun. Hope they are not ALL imaginary and at least one or two of them are real people. Enjoy your "Super Blue Bash Bonanza" or whatever you plastics call the first round of your pretend summer series these days. For your sake I hope hooligans from the Cave or Horta dont decide to try and outdo the part timers from a poor little Mediterranean league and spoil the Aussie atmosphere for you. I doubt they could even if they tried, looked like those guys ringing cow bells and Mexican shirts for some reason only numbered like 300 or so max.... You are struggling mate, I'm sorry, no AFL, no NPL no Greece in WC (but then you should be used to that, even the pathetic Australian A -League has produced more WCs than Greece!!! Enjoy your mediocrity. NPL season just finished a month ago turbo, its called the off season, it will be back in Feb.... no biggie. In the meantime there is EPL, Serie A and Greek Super League on my telly so absolutely no struggle at all .... WC will be a fascinating watch too, looking forward to the A-League all stars performing on the world stage since you mention mediocrity.... Hope your multicultural friends dont get too disappointed by the "uniqueness" My multicultural friends are all Aussies, we all have our heritage & we all proud of it & has moved on from the victim mentality you still have. We all want the Socceroos to do well & have a 2nd team in our forefathers country, all except my Greek friend, he always misses out. I think you need to jump on the internet and actually understand what "multiculturalism" is turbo.. I know its a big word but to dumb it down for you it you actually need "multiple" "cultures" celebrating themselves to work correctly. Suppressing cultural expression of self identity is actually the Opposite of what you think you are portraying... do better. Oh my, rich, me going to football with people of multiple backgrounds, talking football, World cup & cheering for my local Aussie team is not multiculturalism. You wanting Australian football to allow you to go to the football with all your Greek friends, eating Souvlaki, chanting Hellas & discussing your next trip to Athens is multiculturalism. Blow me another one arsewipe. I aint touching you with a 40 foot pole you dirty old Neanderthall. Yes both your attempts at sentences above are EXACTLY what I am saying.... Learn a little bit about the topic you are trying to argue before making yourself look even more disgusting than you are. Ill give you the basic Wikepedia definition as anything a little more evolved may melt your tiny little mind and that of your imaginary polyethnic friends. Those last 7 words must really be hard to understand eh?: "The term multiculturalism has a range of meanings within the contexts of sociology, political philosophy, and colloquial use. In sociology and in everyday usage, it is a synonym for " ethnic pluralism", with the two terms often used interchangeably, and for cultural pluralism[1] in which various ethnic groups collaborate and enter into a dialogue with one another without having to sacrifice their particular identities. " Wow, you got me. Go & enjoy your Greek food, don't forget the ouzo (love Ouzo) with your Greek club, playing other Greek clubs in the little Vic NPL. Enjoy arsewipe. I enjoy my form of multiculturalism with at the World Cup, where we can enjoy football from 32 different nations & I'll enjoy Aussie football in the A-League. Wonderful to hear such inclusive "welcome to country" sentiments from a true Australian.... I hope the hate dies with your generation, you make me sick.
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