I mean we are developing more of them no doubt about that, its just what people prefer and like especially in under pressure situations and little has changed if im honest.

We still have that conservative nature of valuing runners or physical players full stop, simply because we dont believe we can compete on a technical level with the countries and teams around the world which is a shame because Ange showed what happens when you trust players to play a more progressive style you can get results but we haven't learned alot since the Asian Cup at home in 2015.

Maybe we have an outdated view on coaching here in Oz preferring the physical types and new generation of coaches coming through the system who value this kind of technical players need to brought in the a-league system? But who knows why its like this anyway.

You dont feel there has been a culture change already?

Australians especially Australian coaches they love guys that are physical and that can run, we don’t value technical or creative players like in other counties do.
Thats a fact for following the game here for the last 15 years or so and I don’t see it changing anytime soon unless a culture shift happens which I can see it happening sadly.

I rewatched it, it wasn't.

Is Leckie what you dream of?

Because unless we try new things that's what we're stuck with.

but your NOT going to get what you dream for thats the point - but most will blame GA.
The other point is WHY useless Leckie is still there is because no young un has shown game to game to take his spot !
This WC is going to show where we're at player wise once and for all (barring an exception or 2) NO matter who the coach is.

But we want goal scorers and attackers that can beat defenders 1v1 and maybe - you know - actually WIN a WCUP game! Not just defending and playing conservatively over and over as is the usual

Yep. Chest. Cross came quickly and guess he didn’t have time to dive head first to header at goal instead 

So many of you guys are like fashion chasing teenagers desperate to follow a trend.

Leckie has huge deficiencies in his game and it's sad that he IS one of our regulars
BUT
Leckie is not the problem and it's not his fault nobody else has done the hard yards in their careers to take his place from him.

Arzani or Tilio etc would be a FUCKING DISASTER for anything more than a desperate last 20 minutes chasing a game scenario.

I don't know what world you guys live in

Aha oh I'm bitter

I purely responded to the fact he was only there based on one cross.

People quickly forget that his club career outstrips almost any other player since the golden gen and it's off the back of that he was chosen for so long

Now he is chosen for his leadership, professionalism, tireless pressing, keeping shape, not shirking defensive duties, causing turnovers, aerial threat and the fact you can't have a squad made up only of kids that have played 0-3 games for the NT because they are forum darlings despite many people not seeing a single game of theirs in their middling o/s leagues and careers.

Christ. 

Aha If I said something like that I would be "bitter" hahahahahahahah

Honestly didn't see him that whole game. I do remember him running around like a headless chicken in the Asian cup final. 

Funny you brought that game up though, if I remember correctly Leckie was presented a 1 on 1 opportunity with the keeper, 8 yards out in front, 2-all,that was ripe for a head, or a volley, and he decided to chest (that's right, chest!!!) the ball to the keeper?

Can't talk about careers without mentioning international careers.

People give crap to Matt Mckay but he played pretty damn well at 2014 WCUP vs Dutch

(Just for shits & giggles) Leckie vs Tilio

again Tilio better at dribbling past players than Leckie. Leckie again better in defense. But Tilio much better in terms of creativity and shots on target than Leckie. Will never forget Tilio screamer vs Argentinia at Olympics

I'll say that again.

He's got the skills of Matty McKay without the tenacity

He's got the skills Matt McKay, without the tenacity.

And I'm sorry to break it to people but defending from the front and set pieces are our only REALISTIC route to goal in 2 of our 3 games.

I know fans love playing fantasy football and dreaming of scenarios where they place an action they have seen in one game into another scenario but these are real life tough professional battles about to take place. Not a Sunday avo in Sydney's outer burbs with 379 people half watching!

Leckie vs Arzani

Anglophiles say hello back

Dare say Mooy played less premier league games than Leckie did Bundesliga games - I'm guessing by some margin?

Not saying he is a a "better" player - purely talking about the career he had (and I even said "basically" indicating you could argue Mooy or Jedinak had equally good or better since the GG)

Aaron Mooy says hello 

yeah....and off the fact he basically had a better European career than any Socceroo since the Golden gen.

Probably, would have been better then Cafu or Dani Alves 

I think he's been living off the outside foot cross he did at Asian cup when we won. Not many wingers have those sort of stats these days not many assists or goals. 

He would of made an exceptional RWB, probably even better than Emerton.

He’s there because he fully deserves to be there. I do think that after the World Cup, he should be gradually phased out.

Arzani - no end product. Maybe next cycle, definitely not now.
Tilio - Probably 6th choice behind the 5 in the squad
Folami - nowhere near
Ikon - Currently one of the worst marquees in the history of the league

Not much love here for Leckie - and those that do rate him don’t seem bothered about defending his selection either. He is in squad for his fitness and workrate basically 

I don't know if sucking at finishing or being crap in attack, are good indicators of a good defender. He also has poor technique and little tactical ability. What makes you think he would be a good defender? because he used to be able to run fast.

I think Leckie should have been converted to a Right Back a long time ago.

His lack of finishing acumen and lack of insight as part of an attacking unit  would not be an issue if he were to play RB.