2022 FIFA World Cup: Australia vs Argentina | 4 Dec, 6:00am AEDT


2022 FIFA World Cup: Australia vs Argentina | 4 Dec, 6:00am AEDT

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Im not feeling nervous since the cup is already a success.

we have nothing to lose but a lot to gain. Might as well enjoy a great game
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Decentric 2 - 3 Dec 2022 12:06 PM
Saudi beat them.

Saudi had a spell for 15 minutes in the second, where they were right on top. They scored whilst in that short period of domination.

I hope  Argentina are too knackered to Squeeze us like Denmark did.

Hopefully, the  clinical finishing of our new potent strike force of Goodwin, Duke and Leckie, manifests again! The World Cup seems to have improved their finishing qualities.

Also, it was two shots on target for two goals.
9 out of 10 times, that ain't going to get you a win.

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Daniel Andrews (Mr AFL) tweeting about additional fan sites in Melbourne 
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Munrubenmuz - 3 Dec 2022 10:53 AM
Got my round of 16 ticket from the FA. Woohoo.

Look for me in my spew shirt with blow up roo. Will be in active support behind the goals.

So pleased for you Muz. Have a wonderful day. Fingers crossed, could be the best day of your sporting life ever.
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"If we play Rugby yes, but not soccer":

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zNPDr33i0aI

"Australia, who? who?"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ifRWeTFI4PQ 

Shades of pre-match sentiment from other South American sides. 

I still think we lose though...

I'm of Argentinian descent so I'll try to dig up sentiment from local media as well
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Decentric 2 - 3 Dec 2022 12:06 PM
Saudi beat them.

Saudi had a spell for 15 minutes in the second, where they were right on top. They scored whilst in that short period of domination.

I hope  Argentina are too knackered to Squeeze us like Denmark did.

Hopefully, the  clinical finishing of our new potent strike force of Goodwin, Duke and Leckie, manifests again! The World Cup seems to have improved their finishing qualities.

Socceroos scored 3 from 7 shots. Let’s hope we can retain that. I am concerned about how many chances we offer other teams, need to minimise, the midfield needs to work smarter. Our inability to retain possession is the most frustrating. I cannot see Argentina bothering to cross the way Denmark did, easy stuff for our central defence. Their short passing and clinical finishing requires us to work hard and close the space then we hope they get frustrated and we counter. Cannot do what the Poles did and just concede the game to them. 
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Just waiting for the worldwide media to erupt when they see the Grey Wiggle in goal during penalties.
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I keep thinking 0-5, though that’s probably just paranoia. Surely they’ll be satisfied with 3 and take the foot off. I try to fantasise about Australia win but I just can’t see any way.  

If we do somehow advance, Arnie goes from vindicated to a god. And miracles do happen in football. We beat them at the recent Olympics, so there is a precedent of sorts. And not only then, but I remember some youth world cup where a guy called Costas Celepasides (sp?) scored 4 goals and we ended up winning 4-3. I don’t quite remember when that was, but it was such a fantastic game. I remember Foz glowing in the after match analysis.

But I dunno. It just feels set up for a convincing and easy Argentina win.

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With 2006 and the quality of the players we had then and the way we played against Italy, the Italy loss was seen as a tragedy, a what-if moment. A moment of trauma that angers and haunts us to this day. 
Tonight’s match - we can dare to dream but this squad have already performed way above expectations, like many here on this forum I’m excited but not so nervous. Whatever result this has been an incredible World Cup and the socceroos future looks bright 

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The history between Argentina (Sth American football) and Australia is amazing and some of the local newspapers are really embracing the history. 

Clarin wrote a great article about the history of Arg V Aus by recapping the '93 playoffs, 1988 4-1 friendly win with that Yankos free-kick, quotes from Paul Wade etc. Really great stuff.

I actually did not know this as I was only 8 years old at the time but Maradona actually told The Age/SMH that:

"Tus lágrimas de tristeza pronto serán de alegría'

"Your tears of sadness will soon be [tears] of joy"
-- MARADONA -- 

https://12ft.io/proxy?q=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.clarin.com%2Fdeportes%2Fdia-diego-maradona-regalo-anecdota-australia-actual-dt-desempolvo-motivar-equipo_0_fG1bcvTeGd.html

As an Australian with Argentinian parents, I'm a little biased here but I would love to see more connections fostered between both countries. We share a great history together in this amazing game.

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I just don’t want to get thrashed and we leave the tournament on a sour note. 
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Our under-age national teams have had some pretty good periods over the last 35 years or so.
Once upon a time SBS would show the underage world cups.
Prior to the establishment of the FFA, our U20s were ranked 4th in world cup history.

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grazorblade - 3 Dec 2022 12:10 PM
Im not feeling nervous since the cup is already a success.

we have nothing to lose but a lot to gain. Might as well enjoy a great game

Exactly this ^^
said before Denmark game to just enjoy Roos playing at WCup - same goes for making Rd of 16.
really hope Devlin and Kuol get some minutes at least
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https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-12-03/socceroos-argentina-world-up-clash-to-be-shown-at-stadium/101730798

AAMI park open for Roos fans to watch Argies game 👍

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Cool - where heading to Darling Harbour fan zone 4am.
I’m the same just stoked we’re in the R16 and against a power like the Argies and you know who.
Whatever happens happens let’s go fellas.

Love Football

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I remember watching Paul Wade (almost) do the job on Maradona in Sydney in a playoff qualifier. Maradona refused to swap shirts with Wadey after the game. 

He wanted to swap it with Robbie Slater instead didn't he?

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clockwork orange - 3 Dec 2022 1:29 PM
Munrubenmuz - 3 Dec 2022 10:53 AM

So pleased for you Muz. Have a wonderful day. Fingers crossed, could be the best day of your sporting life ever.

Cheers mate. Like someone else said we're out of the group so anything that happens now is just a bonus.


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Captain Haddock - 3 Dec 2022 4:55 PM
clockwork orange - 3 Dec 2022 9:01 AM

He wanted to swap it with Robbie Slater instead didn't he?

Yeah that's what I remember.

And he got invited into Argentina's private party at whatever club they all went to.


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We have a really low percentage of getting a win but I would relish the experience of playing in a second round match which we haven't done since 2006 with the GG and so hope it inspires the next generation to take the mantle and take us into the next level because we are quite their yet compared to more establish football powerhouses like Argentina.
Plus we will be so tired, the lack of options of the bench is a problem so if we have to throw in youth like Kuol and Tilio who are the future at least they can get some valuable experience going into 2026 but we don't have the depth compared to Argentina.

So I think this is where our journey will end sadly :(


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Barca4Life - 3 Dec 2022 5:50 PM
We have a really low percentage of getting a win but I would relish the experience of playing in a second round match which we haven't done since 2006 with the GG and so hope it inspires the next generation to take the mantle and take us into the next level because we are quite their yet compared to more establish football powerhouses like Argentina.
Plus we will be so tired, the lack of options of the bench is a problem so if we have to throw in youth like Kuol and Tilio who are the future at least they can get some valuable experience going into 2026 but we don't have the depth compared to Argentina.

So I think this is where our journey will end sadly :(


Agreed but what a journey it's been!
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Munrubenmuz - 3 Dec 2022 5:42 PM
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Cheers mate. Like someone else said we're out of the group so anything that happens now is just a bonus.

Lucky bugger. Ive followed them to Europe, Middle East and Asia....wish I could see this. 

Perhaps we will never ever get an opportunity like that again. Lap it up.
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Captain Haddock - 3 Dec 2022 4:55 PM
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He wanted to swap it with Robbie Slater instead didn't he?

Yep. Slater had ‘dined out’ on that for 30 years. 
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Argentina play well on the ground but we've not been cracked through the middle on the ground just yet. I hope we attack and suffocate Argentina as this will hopefully extend their lines for some wayward passes to go out. A bit of rotation is needed purely on fitness grounds.
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johnszasz - 3 Dec 2022 6:52 PM
Argentina play well on the ground but we've not been cracked through the middle on the ground just yet. I hope we attack and suffocate Argentina as this will hopefully extend their lines for some wayward passes to go out. A bit of rotation is needed purely on fitness grounds.

Like to see Baccus start along side maestro Mooy, as the two no.6's, with Irvine further up the pitch. Irvine He was impressive further up with his pressing in the second half during the Denmark match. McGree and Hrustic as options in the second half for this one.


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The way Degenek has been in camp is absolutely exemplary. He's been really firing up the team and performed near perfectly on the pitch. Total redemption for the Asian Cup error.
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I've got this bad feeling that Argentina is going to slaughter the Socceroos (I hope I'm wrong), but win lose or draw, the Socceroos have exceeded all expectations.

The Socceroos weren't even expected to qualify for the World Cup, but they did against the odds, and even after the miracle win against Peru, the Socceroos were not expected to score a goal, or win a game, but they have won 2 in a row against strong opposition (Tunisia and Denmark), and both with clean sheets. It was great how the Socceroos recovered after the France loss, to me that shows  that the Socceroos have character and maturity, and they know how to handle pressure.

I just think Messi and the powerhouse that is Argentina will be too strong for Australia, the only thing that could stuff up the Argentinians is if they take Australia too lightly/or they lose their cool if things don't go their way. In past Argentina v Germany WC games where the Germans won most of the time, the Germans were very good at getting underneath the Argentinians skin, but the Socceroos are no Germany.

If we lose, I hope the Socceroos make Argentina sweat for their win.

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I doubt many would have predicted Socceroos going this far after reaping just 6 points from their last 7 matches in AFC qualifying and finishing a solitary point above Oman to reach AFC playoff against UAE - which they only won with an 84th minute goal. I thought they were no good things to get past UAE, let alone Peru. I've got to hand it to this squad for resilience. Amazing.
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Our defence is stable, and confident, anyone bringing up the last 6 months doesn't recognise the main change in the last five games (our CBs), we can hold, we just need to score.
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Melbcityguy - 3 Dec 2022 2:54 PM
I just don’t want to get thrashed and we leave the tournament on a sour note. 

no one wants this but we have made it this 'far' on merit we got to have a little faith the boys will put up a good fight regardless of the outcome 

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