Who is our CB back up?


Who is our CB back up?

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We saw against Ecuador that Deng was not to standard. Who else do we have? Wright (although injured atm), JRB?, Sainsbury(he is only 31 after all), Circati?
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I wonder if Trewin or Good are worth a go having great seasons

We have a K league player whose name escapes me that might be worth a look.

Circati might be worth a look too if we can nab him
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grazorblade - 19 Apr 2023 2:14 AM
I wonder if Trewin or Good are worth a go having great seasons

We have a K league player whose name escapes me that might be worth a look.

Circati might be worth a look too if we can nab him

Just how good is Triantis? Never seen him play but saw he was in the u-20 asian cup side and plays first team for central coast at just 19
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Pasquali - 19 Apr 2023 3:46 AM
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Just how good is Triantis? Never seen him play but saw he was in the u-20 asian cup side and plays first team for central coast at just 19

He seems pretty decent and improving every year, so hasn't reached his ceiling. Roar's defence has worked well as a unit, but I think he has played a lot at cdm this year
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Souttar
Rowles
Deng 
Degenek

We previously called up delbridge. Don't think he'll get a cap again I'd go with Alex grant 

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Circati hopefully is one of them.
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Arnie keeps talking about Circati for a reason, he's next in line. 
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Melbcityguy - 19 Apr 2023 6:00 AM
Souttar
Rowles
Deng 
Degenek

We previously called up delbridge. Don't think he'll get a cap again I'd go with Alex grant 

Is delbridge our k league cb?
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one thing I suspect is we really rely on the combination of Ryan, Souttar, Rowles and Mooy to handle top teams

Rowles and Mooy are safe as houses with the ball at feet and can control the pace of the game. Ryan and souttar can beat a press with a long diagonal pass, making it more difficult for teams to press us. Souttar is also a hard man who is unbeatable 1v1

Souttar is outstanding but might be replaceable with Bailey Wright since he did well against peru. Rowles might be even more irreplaceable than souttar at the moment

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6’ 6 Souttar - 6’1 Rowles
6’5 RichBaghelou - 6’3 Circati
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Pasquali - 19 Apr 2023 12:00 AM
We saw against Ecuador that Deng was not to standard. Who else do we have? Wright (although injured atm), JRB?, Sainsbury(he is only 31 after all), Circati?

 Switch Degenek and Deng.
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grazorblade - 19 Apr 2023 7:07 AM
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Is delbridge our k league cb?

Yes.

Delbridge has progressed a lot later in his career. Almost at the same age as Sains has been declining. 

Another late developer was Ogger. He was peaking in his mid 30s whilst Neill was declining.
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Cam Burgess at Ipswich is ready and should be picked next  
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I saw Triantis for the Aus u20s and he looked like the next Spiranovic, pure ball playing centre back that defends very well so he's a future option.

Kai Trewin is an interesting choice mainly because of he's versatility between midfield and defence, he's a not a pure centre back but you can use him a system of play that has alot of flexibility so he can play as a 3rd centre back in the build up phase whilst having the tactical discipline to play as a right back or No.6 in defending.

Circati I dont know little of him but I want to see what he can do even if it means at under 23 level.
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grazorblade - 19 Apr 2023 7:14 AM
one thing I suspect is we really rely on the combination of Ryan, Souttar, Rowles and Mooy to handle top teams

Rowles and Mooy are safe as houses with the ball at feet and can control the pace of the game. Ryan and souttar can beat a press with a long diagonal pass, making it more difficult for teams to press us. Souttar is also a hard man who is unbeatable 1v1

Souttar is outstanding but might be replaceable with Bailey Wright since he did well against peru. Rowles might be even more irreplaceable than souttar at the moment

Rowles is getting slaughtered on the Hearts fan forum. Mainly for his heading ability (lack of), passing inaccuracy, and being out muscled.

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I hope Arnie has someone looking at Diesel Herrington 18 and on the bench for Aarhus with a deal till 2026.
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iheartbrisbane - 19 Apr 2023 10:50 AM
Cam Burgess at Ipswich is ready and should be picked next  

Great shout if they get promoted and he maintains his starting spot. Would be hard to ignore playing regular Championship football. 
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grazorblade - 19 Apr 2023 7:14 AM
one thing I suspect is we really rely on the combination of Ryan, Souttar, Rowles and Mooy to handle top teams

Rowles and Mooy are safe as houses with the ball at feet and can control the pace of the game. Ryan and souttar can beat a press with a long diagonal pass, making it more difficult for teams to press us. Souttar is also a hard man who is unbeatable 1v1

Souttar is outstanding but might be replaceable with Bailey Wright since he did well against peru. Rowles might be even more irreplaceable than souttar at the moment

Wright was poor against Ecuador tho. I LL go with Curtis Good
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Rowles is getting slaughtered on the Hearts fan forum. Mainly for his heading ability (lack of), passing inaccuracy, and being out muscled.

Can't blame Rowles the left back is missing most games, when the team attempts to play it out, and he is normally the only one stuck defending after the team presses forward, and loses it early through retarded passing.
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Arnie will close the deal for Circati and it will be him. 


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Bunch of Hacks - 19 Apr 2023 5:37 PM
Arnie will close the deal for Circati and it will be him. 


thought you had some tea to spill for a second
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Circati, Degenek, Wright, Deng, Stensness, Good, Delbridge. Rich-Baghelou if he comes on after injury. It's a little thin really. I hope Circati commits to Australia. 

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Quicky - 19 Apr 2023 9:15 PM
Circati, Degenek, Wright, Deng, Stensness, Good, Delbridge. Rich-Baghelou if he comes on after injury. It's a little thin really. I hope Circati commits to Australia. 

It's definitely a quantity vs quality thing but a lot of our centre backs who fill in generally go well. Can't say much for Conthwaite despite scoring once for the national team but the Thwaite Cornthwaite against Oman was the stuff of nightmares under Holger.

Funny, I remember Coyne, Mrcela and Susnjar all getting feature articles but it was more journalism about the call up from obscurity than their footballing prowess. Good players though. 

 You'd need something horrible to happen to ever need to get so far down the list. Grant and Jackson are in the K League, Burgess is on the cusp of the Championship and is a great distributor and ball winner. If our top 8 all got injured or sick, Mrcela is in excellent form and has been called up. Susnjar is a good centre back. 

Hell, even Elder and Iredale have played as LCB in a back 5 and are both good footballers. 

Triantis is an excellent prospect. The U20 just now had to reply on Rawlins as the others were capable of playing well next to Triantis.

I looked up our team for the apparent phoney friendly vs South Korea in 2019. Souttar was called up to the squad but we interestingly still had Rhys Williams and Spiranovic. 
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johnszasz - 19 Apr 2023 10:35 PM
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It's definitely a quantity vs quality thing but a lot of our centre backs who fill in generally go well. Can't say much for Conthwaite despite scoring once for the national team but the Thwaite Cornthwaite against Oman was the stuff of nightmares under Holger.

Funny, I remember Coyne, Mrcela and Susnjar all getting feature articles but it was more journalism about the call up from obscurity than their footballing prowess. Good players though. 

 You'd need something horrible to happen to ever need to get so far down the list. Grant and Jackson are in the K League, Burgess is on the cusp of the Championship and is a great distributor and ball winner. If our top 8 all got injured or sick, Mrcela is in excellent form and has been called up. Susnjar is a good centre back. 

Hell, even Elder and Iredale have played as LCB in a back 5 and are both good footballers. 

Triantis is an excellent prospect. The U20 just now had to reply on Rawlins as the others were capable of playing well next to Triantis.

I looked up our team for the apparent phoney friendly vs South Korea in 2019. Souttar was called up to the squad but we interestingly still had Rhys Williams and Spiranovic. 

Mrcela I like. Triantis has been shaky at times I've felt, but he's young and a great prospect. 
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Wright was poor against Ecuador tho. I LL go with Curtis Good

I thought both Good and Delbridge were okay for the Socceroo in games they've played.
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Gianni Stensness (1999) is a good shout since Viking have converted him to CB.

I know he wasn’t that impressive when played as a CM for the Roos, but would definitely be worth a try at CB, especially as he’s getting so much game time over in Norway.
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Bowden - 21 Apr 2023 6:39 AM
Gianni Stensness (1999) is a good shout since Viking have converted him to CB.

I know he wasn’t that impressive when played as a CM for the Roos, but would definitely be worth a try at CB, especially as he’s getting so much game time over in Norway.

Yeah I've been trying to ignore this elephant in the room. Remember he started at CB Saudi away and I think we were all so livid about the Japan midfield performance that the minor errors he had got inflated. Still think it was a weak ref call when Australia scored vs Japan and Stensness would've been credited with good work.

Besides, he's playing well now and maturing and he's got the versatility which should see you have a stronger claim. 

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Bowden - 21 Apr 2023 6:39 AM
Gianni Stensness (1999) is a good shout since Viking have converted him to CB.

I know he wasn’t that impressive when played as a CM for the Roos, but would definitely be worth a try at CB, especially as he’s getting so much game time over in Norway.

He barely had any time as a Roo.

Good to hear he is playing as a CB. A young CB on the rise is what the Socceroos need. 

I wonder how Viking play in terms of style?
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Stensness had inauspicious Socceroos debut as a CM but has all the requisites for a CB-hard decisive tackler,strong in the air and while not a great passer of the ball he is willing to play out from the back.His passing may have improved following his Norwegian stint.In fact having read how Rowles is being castigated by the Hearts fans for his lack of heading ability and him being outmuscled by aggressive CFs I feel that Stens would be perfect for the SPL while Kye should be playing in a more technical league-Dutch,Belgian or Bundesliga.However Kye's WC performances were top class against very good  opponents though the French did pull us apart as Souttar and Kye had not played together previously.

Circati would have learnt to play like Italian CBs are taught- stay compact, be proactive, make good use of their body in defending and shielding the ball and  have that degree of cynicism and ruthlessness all the great Italian CBs possess.I can see why Arnie and Meulensteen are interested in him.

Delbridge,Good and Mrcela all would be good Squad choices.Bailey Wright is an honest toiler but in my opinion not quite international class.Degenek did a great job as a fill in RB at the WC and this versatility and experience in big games is an asset to the squad.

Deng looks the goods -strong physique and good speed but lacks consistency and  sometimes his body shape with tackling is wrong.Mr Cool,Trent Sainsbury,appears to have fallen by the wayside but he is not that old and could regain form if settled at one club rather than be a peripatetic  wanderer around the globe.

I have not followed Alex Grant closely but experience in S Korea should be a help.Triantis is definitely one for the future,possibly after the Asian Cup.



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Booney - 21 Apr 2023 1:45 PM
In fact having read how Rowles is being castigated by the Hearts fans for his lack of heading ability and him being outmuscled by aggressive CFs I feel that Stens would be perfect for the SPL while Kye should be playing in a more technical league-Dutch,Belgian or Bundesliga.However Kye's WC performances were top class against very good  opponents though the French did pull us apart as Souttar and Kye had not played together previously.




Wouldn't worry too much about Hearts fans.

Do they have specific football performance  training in  football?

Rowles held his own in the WC, although he may have been beaten aerially against France. He  played far better opposition in the WC than anything in Scotland  - Argentina, France,   even Denmark, who easily beat Scotland in UEFA WCQs.

 
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