Denmark is the country the winning architect was from when they designed the Sydney Opera House too, there is something about Denmark and Australia if you include Princess Mary.

meanwhile news.com is chasing lesbians....

https://www.news.com.au/sport/football/world-cup/inside-the-love-lives-of-the-fifa-womens-world-cup-stars/news-story/e1e2f087ab19629cdb4394414a477f59

Yeah. In 2 minds about that.

In some ways that sort of thing would be beyond the pale years and now it's just a bit of 'who cares, good on them'.

Every second article on that shit site is about some farking influencer in little to no clothes or some other stupid woman with a 'KMART LIFE HACK!!!!'. 

Ask them why their "resistance" to Nazi occupation only lasted 6 hours? maybe? hahahahahahah

One quick sample from today.

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Yeah but it almost reads like an attack on women's football and even sport in general.... "How can these girls represent their nation when they are all too busy fucking each other"? Look I like a bit of lesbian action as much as the next man but this (and old mate Olan Tekkers the racist pos actually rating players on their physical looks on the keep up website) just screams of insecurity by a bunch of dinosaurs looking at any way to skew this tournament as "woke rubbish" and not true blue contact Aussie biffball. 

Most searched for term on pornhub. (Or so I've been told.) For men and women.

But yeah fair points.

Haha, good one mate, very well done. Stick it to the pricks!!

I hate this forum you make me defend News corp - although i cant stand 'woke' shit being a homosexual is 'not woke' at least not imho - pushing sexuality on people might be considered woke which bar the lunatic captain for the USWT most players tend to just being normal people in a homosexual relationship not trying to push an agenda - i nor anyone else should have an issue with - personally i think as long as they're happy. 

but ill peddle back now to Football lets hold the phone it was the FA and the A-L that made a 'big deal' about a 'gay player' - which 'was woke' becuz they started throwing rainbows and 'pride' round everywhere - instead of being like 'cool you're gay' its great you feel comfortable to come out.... back to football

the article reads like the players are in relationships and personally i 'got no issue' with that although im not homophobic and im pretty well adjusted. That is 'exactly how it should be.....i dont understand your issue with it

I said this before ill say this again.... cant complain the media doesn't talk about football then when it talks about football you complain.....

Im all for keeping politics out of sport but players being in relationships straight or gay or whatever is not woke it is not political it is their lives - do i care ...not really but some ppl do thus it is good media. It is also proper inclusive behaviour treat there relationship like any other..... unlike what the AL with all that pride bs which was rubbish which was inadvertent over the top and imho a bit homophobic....  

If you cannot understand the point of treating gay relationships as just 'relationships' you are homophobic...thus the issue the wider society has with woke-idiot community 

Sorry Muz but Norway shits all over both Sweden and Denmark. (Ive been there 3 times to visit my in-laws) the landscape fjords and mountains are stunning. High standards of living too. Denmark is flat and boring. Sweden way more crowded than Norway with way more violent crime. Although Sweden has a very good women’s NT and metal music industry 

Yeah I know. Norway is on my to do list. Looks absolutely fantastic.

Hard to dislike any of the Scando countries. Spectacular women too.

Keep saying it as much as you like mate, the fact is this article did NOT talk about football, at all, just who is shagging who....  Nothing to do with pride or politics or whatever else shits you so badly.... Its a slimy attempt by an organisation that feels threatened by our game to put the focus on anything OTHER than the benefit and joy organised football can bring to young people both male and female. 

Good on you!

I've been harping on  about Tony G's  formations and game plans  not being a contemporary Aus paradigm. I've just read that in possession stats, the Matildas have really low possession (I can't verify territory) compared to the higher ranked teams  they've played. 

Spain 30%

England 30%

France 45%

Canada circa 40%.

Some of this might be a % or two out. Can't  find the original article where it appeared.

Usually when teams have such a low percentage of possession, the team has to run heaps more than the team with higher % of possession. Hence, it is a lot more tiring to chase the ball than possess it.

Under most current Aussie coaches, using the formations I've seen with previous Matildas and Socceroos, plus ALM and ALW coaches, the Matildas would surely have had more control of games? Tony G  has set them up quite differently.

in the last world cup and last champions league possession has started to become anti correlated with results

these days I think a better rule of thumb is passes and dribbles completed per minute in possession. Obviously not a perfect stat  (no stat is apart from goals) but does differentiate your hoof ball teams from ones playing high risk passes through the lines and it does seem that the higher a quality a competition, the higher this number is

During the 2012 National  Football Aus Conferences for coaches, there was exhaustive data presented by the Football Aus Tech Dept. 

One poignant stat was how much more running in games teams did who had proportionally less ball. Notwithstanding, your recent Champ League data, a national style was formulated  like   successful proactive UEFA countries, to have more control over games and do less running. There is also massive concentration required when the other team has the ball.

The joker in the pack  has been Italy.  They often have less possession than their opponents, but still appear able to fashion as many, or more shots on goal, than their opponents. Nobody else has been able to achieve this on a consistent basis.

In terms of Tony G and his staff of Swedish coaches, they haven't bought into the national plan Aus has been trying to implement. Moreover, the underage teams won't have been deploying Tony G style Matildas football either.

1. The data presented in 2012 is more than 11 years old, my recollection is that it was data collected from the 2010 World Cup and maybe other tournaments around that time. The game has changed since then, there have been coaching and playing advancements that have, to at least some extent, negated the high possession tactics that successful teams of that era practiced. While I don't think Gustavsson is a great coach by any means, and a lot of his tactics leave a lot to be desired (use of substitutions or lack thereof for one), continuing to argue that what the successful playing style was 13-odd years ago should still be pursued today without considering how the game has developed is very narrow thinking.

While I think having a broad national plan is beneficial to develop younger players, at the top level (both men's and women's) coaches need to use the resources they have to get the results. These resources very much include players who play successfully under different systems at their clubs, and are adept at adapting their games as required.

2. Gustavsson's staff of Swedish coaches? From what I can see there is only one other Swede on the Matilda's coaching staff, one of the assistant coaches. There are also Australian coaches there (Mel Andreatta, Tony Franken for example).

yes concur Keeper66, 11yrs ago is a lonnnng time in Pro sport and my especially advancement in the womens game for back then it was early days as its showing by developing NT's in this WWC.
USA have won 4 of 8 WWC and runners up and 3rd placings, pretty much new team right now and they have been doing it tuff because many others are catching up in less time.

It isn't rocket science when not in possesion your running more, thats a known for a eternity in our game.
Italy have been lucky scoring against the run of play talking mens, or as they say defense wins games they have always been compact and skilful to pull this off but its now and then and sometime ago might I add.

TG IMO isn't the right fit leading a strong NT like ours full stop.
His cred is being an assistant for the USA in 2012 that they we're miles ahead of most back then and even better to 2019.
The Staj sacking opened the door no more no less.
The problem isn't TG's might I add about having a National Plan thats on the FA full stop period with support and dialog with the NT coachs ala GA and throw TG in for now but I hope we replace him in the near future.
As has been mentioned in press by known pundits some that like or dislike ie Slater I think it was, not having a NT HOME field/facilities is a complete and utter joke as we once did in Canbra.
I hope this is one of the up front and centre topics to improve and get action in the near future after this WWC.

Yes a National Plan/Curriculum is for the levels below, by the time one is selected for NT thats done dusted get on with showing your wares for you've developed and are playing at the higest levels of Club football.
I agree we need a new up to date Plan but the FA needs to pull into line old and new football to work better together first and foremost.

Franken is keeper coach, so I would surmise he doesn't have much effect on playing style and tactics. 

What you say is true,  that a lot of that data,  subsequent methodology and playing style was based on the 2010 WC.  Fair comment.

Also, it is a fair point that it is 13 years old.

Nevertheless, the best teams haven't  deviated much over the last 20 odd years, in terms of style. Apart from a greater weighting on gengen pressing or counter pressing. The  first contemporary team I saw playing this modern, high possession game, with similar structure to the present, was France playing us in a friendly in 2001.

In the Australian  paradigm to have someone not from the Football Aus Technical Department, appointing a national team coach, is totally amateurish. The Football Aus Technical Dept should be making that decision - like what occurs in France.  ATM we have a bean counter/ businessperson making that decision - when they know little about  football performance.

ATM despite the Matlidas' success in the last game against Canada, there is a disconnect - with too much distance - between the central midfield line and the attack.  There is often a hole between the midfield and attack. This was shown up against France and England, and also Canada ( which would on the day wasn't decisive in the outcome).

We often don't have the classic Attacking Mid to dictate terms more effectively  in the attacking half. To an extent Coomer- Cross sits, whilst Gorry goes forwards, but not  as pronounced as the Socceroos, where Irvine, or now Baccus, moves forwards to assist the AM, where previously Mooy, and now O'Neill sits.

In women's football, France and England, play the possession game prescribed as a national style by the Football Aus Tech Dept in 2012.

In women's football the USA have won a lot despite their playing style.

They have so many players playing at a pro level, because of their college system,  where thousands upon thousands of full time female players feed into their  pro league.

However, they use a lot gridiron methodology and play an overly physical game.

Now that the likes of France, England, Spain and  Italy are taking women's football more seriously, who are investing  in their women's pro leagues, like their male counterparts, it should be inevitable that they usurp the USA's dominance. Unless  the USA change and emulate the European models in those big five UEFA countries, they will end up similar international standing to American men's football.  

So what are the AFL hierarchy and media acolytes saying about co-hosting the FIFA Womens World Cup?
It seems to be deathly silent from AFL HQ

Never liked Gustavvson the spud but credit where credit is due in that he has brought a lot of new players into the squad and identified other talent.

And finally recognised Polkinghorne is no longer up to it.

FFS.

You say some really suspect stuff here at times but WTF is 'gridiron methodology'. Justify that statement.

From memory you said you haven't been watching the games because you didn't subscribe to Optus so what are you basing this waffle on?

As for 'overly physical' watch England play in any match. They go in all guns blazing with no prisoners taken.

Will just add the refs, as per the men's world cup, are allowing a very physical world cup to take place. It really is a physical 'battle' these days. (And IMO, rightly so.)

Sweet FA. They're keeping their heads down so as to not draw any more attention than the minimum we're getting. In a couple of weeks time the circus will roll on and it'll be as if the WWC was never here.

Fuck them all and their stupid game. It blows my mind that we can watch teams from all over the world and they'll NEVER be able to experience anything similar and they don't seem to care.

https://www.footballaustralia.com.au/news/football-australia-celebrates-landmark-fifa-womens-world-cup-and-record-breaking-success

Are you sure that is the case? I'm sure the bean counters/administration get involved from a financial point of view (e.g., this is how much we can afford to pay), but I can't believe that even Football Australia/FFA would not have significant football-specific input from their technical department in selecting national team coaches.

By the way, the term is gegenpressing, not gengen pressing.

Sorry, but you are blatantly  wrong - due to misplaced  ignorance, Muz.

Sources:

*Players I've coached have undertaken US College scholarships. We've kept in touch.

* One of the State Football Aus NTC coaches, whose jurisdiction I was under a decade ago, had taken teams the to the USA, and, US teams had visited the EPL clubs he was coaching at. He was simply gobsmacked at their methods. Physical strength through weight training, comprises  a much higher proportion of an American college program than elsewhere. 

* The then state Football Aus TD, and  state head SAP coach, also visited the USA when Aus were evaluating foreign countries to import methodology to Aus. 

* The recruiting company for the US, had former Aus Euro Lower League players as recruiters  - who also had an insight into the US methods.

* I kept in touch with the college Director Of Coaching that one of my former players attended. We exchanged coaching methodology for some years.

* Simon Kuper, Jonathan Wilson, Michael Cox and Ralph Honigsten,  all reputable football journos and authors, constantly write updated books on football methodology.

Satisfied?

It might be an idea to conduct more thorough research before casting aspersions about others who do, and who may have different networks in football than you.   

It is so sad the general public is so unaware of it in Aus - apart from Matildas matches.

I'm not sure which coaching course you've attended? It has been a constant theme discussed in my neck of  the woods in coach education events. 

Even at NPL level, far too many decisions about football performance are made by Presidents - with money. They have often played the game some decades ago, but have never updated their knowledge.  They don't understand how the game has evolved.

It happened to me. When I was a NPL TD I wanted to recruit a player  from South Hobart, the most successful club in the state , who was ageing. When I was watching him with the club President, he could not see how his clever movement off the ball, and speed of thought, constantly opened optimum passing lanes for his teammates.  He made  them look good as they passed to him when he created space - before they received the ball.  He constantly provided them with optimal passing lanes. He was bit  slow over the turf, but more than compensated with speed of thought and game sense.

The club Pres, would  not sign him. He went on to another NPL club, captained it, under the tutelage of one of my coaching course buddies. Later in the season  they beat South Melb in a NPL  National  knock out comp, with him starring.  They lost the final to WA club, Bayswater.

This is relevant, because even Berger, who had the highest  status and profile  of any Aus TD we've had, was only one of a five person panel who appointed Holger.

 IMO Holger was easily the worst Socceroo coach we've had since Guus.  The team started to go backwards through no  renewal. The decision to appoint the  coach in the Holger  era, should have been entirely through the Football Aus Tech Dept. The controversy was that Holger also wasn't steeped in the direction of Aus at the time. He was an old school German coach - not the new stuff they embarked on in the early 2000s. The rationale, was that most of the Aus players under Holger's epoch, also  hadn't  been inculcated in  the new methodology that the youth teams were being instructed in at the time.

Ange immediately rebuilt,  using the new standard possession game in Aus. He brought in Franjic, Wilkinson, Ogger. I've attended a big coaching workshop under Ange at the time- organised by the then TD of Football Tas. Learnt a lot from him about playing possession football.

The problem is with coaches like Holger, and Tony G, is they are completely out of step with the Aussie coaching methodology - that coaches are now trained in, in Aus.  Tony G may be a great player manager, but IMO he is taking the team backwards in playing style - possibly  with the most talented national team of either gender we've had.

Conversely, Arnie is value adding with the Socceroos.