NSD allegedly delayed a year


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doloras - 1 Aug 2023 1:21 PM
Monoethnic Social Club - 1 Aug 2023 10:52 AM

Well, there's effnik diversity, and there's fascism https://www.smh.com.au/politics/federal/croatian-sporting-clubs-with-fascist-links-promised-millions-in-public-money-20230712-p5dno8.html

Agreed,

Who would EVER believe state or federal money can be given to far right, race war inciting fascists in today's Australia? Or that the ADF is riddled with loonies, trained on the government's dime, wanting to go and fight for the Azov Battalion, another organisation helped both militarily and economically by the Australian taxpayer despite their abhorrent beliefs and history?? Or a bunch of "White Australia" loonies forming a state sanctioned hunting group .... wonder what they "hunt"?

Not sure what happens in your country but in this one we believe it is the burden of the accuser to prove guilt and trial by media is frowned upon. (at least in civilised society, wog haters are the exception obviously)

https://www.smh.com.au/national/senior-neo-nazi-slips-out-of-australia-hoping-to-fight-russian-army-20230322-p5cudj.html


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doloras - 1 Aug 2023 1:21 PM
Monoethnic Social Club - 1 Aug 2023 10:52 AM

Well, there's effnik diversity, and there's fascism https://www.smh.com.au/politics/federal/croatian-sporting-clubs-with-fascist-links-promised-millions-in-public-money-20230712-p5dno8.html

Even if the process was free and took only five minutes to fill out a piece of paper, it wouldn't even be with the $1 for a stamp to send the application off for them to apply. There is no chance they are in. 
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tsf - 1 Aug 2023 1:49 PM
doloras - 1 Aug 2023 1:21 PM

Even if the process was free and took only five minutes to fill out a piece of paper, it wouldn't even be with the $1 for a stamp to send the application off for them to apply. There is no chance they are in. 

Thats an opinion mate, not fact...... Not saying you are right or wrong, but they have a better chance than most.
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Monoethnic Social Club - 1 Aug 2023 9:56 AM
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Im sort of the opposite opinion mate... NPL clubs already have U21s..... U23s players should already be in the first team or be loaned/sold out by then..... 

I have a feeling this is a compromise to placate the state federations from losing their best clubs from the NPL comps but it makes pro/rel almost an impossibility (or at least very confusing)

Also, maybe just a way to prevent the need for a Y-league which would save the APL some much needed money they are going to need to keep propping up owner-less franchises. 

Just to correct you on the Y-League, it will probably be played in line with the a-league season as its to cover for a-league youth players whom are not getting game time in the aleague.

However I do find the u23 teams in the NPL as an interesting compromise to avoid pro-rel in the short term at the very least.
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Monoethnic Social Club - 1 Aug 2023 1:51 PM
tsf - 1 Aug 2023 1:49 PM

Thats an opinion mate, not fact...... Not saying you are right or wrong, but they have a better chance than most.

Yes, I agree its opinion - but it's the opinion of a lot of people in football admin. I'd wager that even MK know they are no chance now. 

TBH, they have one of the best run clubs in Australia and have achieved incredible things - but they wouldve done well to own this problem on one of the many occasions that it has come up (over decades) and deal with it.
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tsf - 1 Aug 2023 2:34 PM
Monoethnic Social Club - 1 Aug 2023 1:51 PM

Yes, I agree its opinion - but it's the opinion of a lot of people in football admin. I'd wager that even MK know they are no chance now. 

TBH, they have one of the best run clubs in Australia and have achieved incredible things - but they wouldve done well to own this problem on one of the many occasions that it has come up (over decades) and deal with it.

despite my arguments for them Im not really fussed either way tbh.. I do, however, think the competition will be "poorer" without them.... lets see what comes out in the wash. 
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Barca4Life - 1 Aug 2023 2:33 PM
Monoethnic Social Club - 1 Aug 2023 9:56 AM

Just to correct you on the Y-League, it will probably be played in line with the a-league season as its to cover for a-league youth players whom are not getting game time in the aleague.

However I do find the u23 teams in the NPL as an interesting compromise to avoid pro-rel in the short term at the very least.

The Y-league, as a concept, seems to have stalled mate.. The Aleague franchises dont have an appetite for it and now, with some experiencing financial difficulties, its probably dead in the water.... 
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tsf - 1 Aug 2023 1:49 PM
doloras - 1 Aug 2023 1:21 PM

Even if the process was free and took only five minutes to fill out a piece of paper, it wouldn't even be with the $1 for a stamp to send the application off for them to apply. There is no chance they are in. 

LOL. saved for future reference. 
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Monoethnic Social Club - 1 Aug 2023 2:59 PM
Barca4Life - 1 Aug 2023 2:33 PM

The Y-league, as a concept, seems to have stalled mate.. The Aleague franchises dont have an appetite for it and now, with some experiencing financial difficulties, its probably dead in the water.... 

I'm not fussed about the y league

is there evidence it does better than having a 2nd team in lower mens divisions? Both of course would be even better, but travel is expensive in Australia. A u23 side for nst teams seems a positive thing
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Monoethnic Social Club - 1 Aug 2023 1:47 PM
doloras - 1 Aug 2023 1:21 PM

Agreed,

Who would EVER believe state or federal money can be given to far right, race war inciting fascists in today's Australia? Or that the ADF is riddled with loonies, trained on the government's dime, wanting to go and fight for the Azov Battalion, another organisation helped both militarily and economically by the Australian taxpayer despite their abhorrent beliefs and history?? Or a bunch of "White Australia" loonies forming a state sanctioned hunting group .... wonder what they "hunt"?

Not sure what happens in your country but in this one we believe it is the burden of the accuser to prove guilt and trial by media is frowned upon. (at least in civilised society, wog haters are the exception obviously)

https://www.smh.com.au/national/senior-neo-nazi-slips-out-of-australia-hoping-to-fight-russian-army-20230322-p5cudj.html


Mate come on. If the local German club had portraits of Hitler and Goebbels in the foyer that'd be pretty grim.

Not sure why you're using whataboutism to downplay this.


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Munrubenmuz - 1 Aug 2023 5:42 PM
Monoethnic Social Club - 1 Aug 2023 1:47 PM

Mate come on. If the local German club had portraits of Hitler and Goebbels in the foyer that'd be pretty grim.

Not sure why you're using whataboutism to downplay this.

One of the local British clubs had a photo of Churchill on the wall, thats the same thing isn't it? He killed more Aussies and Greeks combined than Hitler ever did....

Anyway, done defending Croatia.... I havent seen any fascist paraphernalia in their social club or stadium, if other hard hitting investigative types have unearthed some sort of conspiracy Im not interested anymore. They are "just a football club founded by immigrants" for me....



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Monoethnic Social Club - 2 Aug 2023 10:23 AM
Munrubenmuz - 1 Aug 2023 5:42 PM

One of the local British clubs had a photo of Churchill on the wall, thats the same thing isn't it? He killed more Aussies and Greeks combined than Hitler ever did....

Anyway, done defending Croatia.... I havent seen any fascist paraphernalia in their social club or stadium, if other hard hitting investigative types have unearthed some sort of conspiracy Im not interested anymore. They are "just a football club founded by immigrants" for me....



thats it for me instead of looking back on and on........
Just sic of the ongoing questions of the past be it this or anything else today without mentioning topics for its a never ending discussion.



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Seems very obvious that MK have financial issues. They knew the deal very well to join the 2nd tier.
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Who rashly knows what’s going on with the NSD. If JJ goes to FIFA let’s hope that doesn’t change the thinking as he has appeared to be a strong supporter of the concept.

As for each club, they all have the right to opinions about what’s on the table, but at no point would anyone have considered this an easy or cheap exercise to participate in. It does carry significant risk to clubs given the outlay and unknowns of the financial benefits of being part of it. 

One thing is for sure though, each on or off-field incident that occurs that involves one of the ‘ethnic’ clubs will get the spotlight on it in seconds, which also serves to ramp up the risk to the competition. Sad but true. 

It is something with a lot of feel good about it, but time will tell if it actually works out. 

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Heart_fan - 2 Aug 2023 12:13 PM
Who rashly knows what’s going on with the NSD. If JJ goes to FIFA let’s hope that doesn’t change the thinking as he has appeared to be a strong supporter of the concept.

As for each club, they all have the right to opinions about what’s on the table, but at no point would anyone have considered this an easy or cheap exercise to participate in. It does carry significant risk to clubs given the outlay and unknowns of the financial benefits of being part of it. 

One thing is for sure though, each on or off-field incident that occurs that involves one of the ‘ethnic’ clubs will get the spotlight on it in seconds, which also serves to ramp up the risk to the competition. Sad but true. 

It is something with a lot of feel good about it, but time will tell if it actually works out. 

fair summary.... its ALL speculation at the moment... 
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