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+x+xI heard a whisper of a rumour of a suggestion from a mate of the next door neighbour's girflriend's uncle's co-worker that we may be getting something out of FA today/tomorrow. Degree of reliability is 20-25% .... These sort of things are usually late in the afternoon. Friday afternoon comms tends to be for news that is not well received... Hahahaha I know right....
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+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+xHaving a back and forth on reddit asking what would be wrong with npl on planes Amazingly, one reason given is because the 8 clubs in the nst are producing a large percentage of our youth and if they go bust youth development would fall apart They are quite atagonistic, and im doing all the work providing evidence for my views so probably want to jump out of the convo. But can anyone steel man this point? Why would it be less risky to have a systrm where the best teams for youth development are not allowed above state level? And why would npl on planes be more risky for clubs going broke than a full time nst? Yeah gotta say some on there are quite stubborn in their views. Some are completely shut-off to the idea of an NST when it's something that's absolutely possible, even though there's a bunch of hiccups. I don't get the dismissal of "NPL on planes", what the hell is wrong with that? If anything, that's probably how we could've started the NST instead, as Semi-Pro. Don't have to worry about clubs going broke and players keep their day jobs. Now it seems like NST clubs might take on even more youth (on min. wage) to cut costs. How is that bad for our youth development? Don't worry about the antogonistic people, you just can't chat thoughtfully with those types. Whilst they can make some decent points worth considering, they couldn't care to consider anyone else's points. I've looked into pyramids and general travel expenses and really don't understand how this can't get up financially. It can be run off the smell of an oily rag (as long as Perth are excluded, sorry guys) and maybe why we don't want to get the PFA involved to introduce and inflate more costs. Maybe I'll share my own thoughts on the pyramid at some point. I agree - npl on planes is intended and taken as a slur but every time I hear it I'm like "yeah? That's what we want isn't it?" I mean if we can get something better maybe its worth a try, but start where you are at and build would be very interested in your pyramid thoughts. The thread on reddit suggested someones own pyramid. My idea for a pyramid after looking at the economics of p&r would be to have 1 of the promotion spots each year reserved for the best relegated team for the previous season (so if a vic team gets relegated in 2025 and gets 30 points in the npl in 2026 and a nsw team relegated in 2025 and gets 32 points in 2026 then the nsw team gets promoted). The reasons for this are because teams that got promoted gained more in fans than they lost when relegated, this is true even in the nsl era, so yoyo clubs grow. Making sure there is at least one yoyo per team could speed up growth Just needs a caveat. If South Melbourne end up with wooden spoon then they don't get relegated. Just like 1979. 😁 Lets NOT forget 1980 and 1981 for West Adelaide.... or the two conference league shennanigans... Bloody hell mate, it was a part time league made up of volunteer clubs who were making the rules up as they went along.... Jesus Christ, 45 years ago the then brains of football decided to relegate the lowest NSW team (even then the whole bullshit geographic spread fish where the fish are idiocy was being mentioned) instead of the bottom team on the table and it is STILL being brought up as a reason not to have a full league system here.... Who hurt you guys? having some clubs protected from relegation to the npl would actually be a good thing for the first few decades of p&r. The data says we actually got the benefits of P&R during the nsl era, it just wasn't a smart enough system to minimize the risks given australia has 9 leagues trying to get promoted into 1 Protection from relegation should probably be based on clubs who are willing to make long term investments - academies or stadiums Having ANY clubs protected from relegation is a bullshit idea, sorry grazor, that sort of thinking has to stop if we are tog et anywhere at club level... what next awarding draft picks to the clubs that finish bottom of the table? Agree. And I think that's what club licencing is there for. Clubs would only be promoted if they also meet standards. So, maybe to be promoted they could draw on any club that finishes top 4 in NPL or NST, for example. But if none of those meet standards then no promotion that season. Something like that. Which is pretty much how P&R works around the world. The difference being they've had it for decades so clubs are prepared and setup for it. In the hypothetical scenario of promotion from the NPL to the NST, there would be inherent standards due to the nature of the NST competition. Assuming the competition goes ahead as a fully professional comp, then one minimum standard would be that any promoted club must then demonstrate they can pay players/staff a full time wage for 52 weeks of the year. Unfortunately, this would eliminate quite a large chunk of clubs right now but there really is no way around it. Once/if the NST gets going, any clubs with ambition of joining would need to start planning right away. Anecdotaly the ARE mate.... that is the true value behind this push for a national second division... Admittedly its great for clubs like mine to have a crack on the national stage again after 2 decades but the MOST important thing in my eyes is to raise the standards of dozens of other clubs in Australia to challenge for these spots in the future.... more pro clubs= more pro players= more talent rising to the top ..... simples :)
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+x+x+x+x+x+x+xHaving a back and forth on reddit asking what would be wrong with npl on planes Amazingly, one reason given is because the 8 clubs in the nst are producing a large percentage of our youth and if they go bust youth development would fall apart They are quite atagonistic, and im doing all the work providing evidence for my views so probably want to jump out of the convo. But can anyone steel man this point? Why would it be less risky to have a systrm where the best teams for youth development are not allowed above state level? And why would npl on planes be more risky for clubs going broke than a full time nst? Yeah gotta say some on there are quite stubborn in their views. Some are completely shut-off to the idea of an NST when it's something that's absolutely possible, even though there's a bunch of hiccups. I don't get the dismissal of "NPL on planes", what the hell is wrong with that? If anything, that's probably how we could've started the NST instead, as Semi-Pro. Don't have to worry about clubs going broke and players keep their day jobs. Now it seems like NST clubs might take on even more youth (on min. wage) to cut costs. How is that bad for our youth development? Don't worry about the antogonistic people, you just can't chat thoughtfully with those types. Whilst they can make some decent points worth considering, they couldn't care to consider anyone else's points. I've looked into pyramids and general travel expenses and really don't understand how this can't get up financially. It can be run off the smell of an oily rag (as long as Perth are excluded, sorry guys) and maybe why we don't want to get the PFA involved to introduce and inflate more costs. Maybe I'll share my own thoughts on the pyramid at some point. I agree - npl on planes is intended and taken as a slur but every time I hear it I'm like "yeah? That's what we want isn't it?" I mean if we can get something better maybe its worth a try, but start where you are at and build would be very interested in your pyramid thoughts. The thread on reddit suggested someones own pyramid. My idea for a pyramid after looking at the economics of p&r would be to have 1 of the promotion spots each year reserved for the best relegated team for the previous season (so if a vic team gets relegated in 2025 and gets 30 points in the npl in 2026 and a nsw team relegated in 2025 and gets 32 points in 2026 then the nsw team gets promoted). The reasons for this are because teams that got promoted gained more in fans than they lost when relegated, this is true even in the nsl era, so yoyo clubs grow. Making sure there is at least one yoyo per team could speed up growth Just needs a caveat. If South Melbourne end up with wooden spoon then they don't get relegated. Just like 1979. 😁 Let’s NOT forget 1980 and 1981 for West Adelaide.... or the two conference league shennanigans... Bloody hell mate, it was a part time league made up of volunteer clubs who were making the rules up as they went along.... Jesus Christ, 45 years ago the then brains of football decided to relegate the lowest NSW team (even then the whole bullshit geographic spread fish where the fish are idiocy was being mentioned) instead of the bottom team on the table and it is STILL being brought up as a reason not to have a full league system here.... Who hurt you guys? Oi MSC, you know never trust a Butler - always shifty bastards because they serve well off peasants hahaha and they are the true bitters :) Nah mate, he is right in a way, the NSL was a debacle most of the time... I just dont get the whole pile on that just because the previous national comp was shit and the current comp is shit therefore we should just not bother and not try again..... Yes agree mate I’m just sic of the same ol same ol re the past . It was a mess no one says otherwise but to keep banging on about 20+ yrs ago of errors is keeping your head in the sand. Surely you’d hope the FA knows very well of the past hence this taking forever to get off the ground and understandable.
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+x+x+x+x+x+x+xHaving a back and forth on reddit asking what would be wrong with npl on planes Amazingly, one reason given is because the 8 clubs in the nst are producing a large percentage of our youth and if they go bust youth development would fall apart They are quite atagonistic, and im doing all the work providing evidence for my views so probably want to jump out of the convo. But can anyone steel man this point? Why would it be less risky to have a systrm where the best teams for youth development are not allowed above state level? And why would npl on planes be more risky for clubs going broke than a full time nst? Yeah gotta say some on there are quite stubborn in their views. Some are completely shut-off to the idea of an NST when it's something that's absolutely possible, even though there's a bunch of hiccups. I don't get the dismissal of "NPL on planes", what the hell is wrong with that? If anything, that's probably how we could've started the NST instead, as Semi-Pro. Don't have to worry about clubs going broke and players keep their day jobs. Now it seems like NST clubs might take on even more youth (on min. wage) to cut costs. How is that bad for our youth development? Don't worry about the antogonistic people, you just can't chat thoughtfully with those types. Whilst they can make some decent points worth considering, they couldn't care to consider anyone else's points. I've looked into pyramids and general travel expenses and really don't understand how this can't get up financially. It can be run off the smell of an oily rag (as long as Perth are excluded, sorry guys) and maybe why we don't want to get the PFA involved to introduce and inflate more costs. Maybe I'll share my own thoughts on the pyramid at some point. I agree - npl on planes is intended and taken as a slur but every time I hear it I'm like "yeah? That's what we want isn't it?" I mean if we can get something better maybe its worth a try, but start where you are at and build would be very interested in your pyramid thoughts. The thread on reddit suggested someones own pyramid. My idea for a pyramid after looking at the economics of p&r would be to have 1 of the promotion spots each year reserved for the best relegated team for the previous season (so if a vic team gets relegated in 2025 and gets 30 points in the npl in 2026 and a nsw team relegated in 2025 and gets 32 points in 2026 then the nsw team gets promoted). The reasons for this are because teams that got promoted gained more in fans than they lost when relegated, this is true even in the nsl era, so yoyo clubs grow. Making sure there is at least one yoyo per team could speed up growth Just needs a caveat. If South Melbourne end up with wooden spoon then they don't get relegated. Just like 1979. 😁 Lets NOT forget 1980 and 1981 for West Adelaide.... or the two conference league shennanigans... Bloody hell mate, it was a part time league made up of volunteer clubs who were making the rules up as they went along.... Jesus Christ, 45 years ago the then brains of football decided to relegate the lowest NSW team (even then the whole bullshit geographic spread fish where the fish are idiocy was being mentioned) instead of the bottom team on the table and it is STILL being brought up as a reason not to have a full league system here.... Who hurt you guys? having some clubs protected from relegation to the npl would actually be a good thing for the first few decades of p&r. The data says we actually got the benefits of P&R during the nsl era, it just wasn't a smart enough system to minimize the risks given australia has 9 leagues trying to get promoted into 1 Protection from relegation should probably be based on clubs who are willing to make long term investments - academies or stadiums So you would get out the blowtorch on the franchises in the Aleague then? Having ANY clubs protected from relegation is a bullshit idea, sorry grazor, that sort of thinking has to stop if we are tog et anywhere at club level... what next awarding draft picks to the clubs that finish bottom of the table? It would be inevitable with licenses that a league clubs wont be relegated below the nst in an optimistic scenario. Moreover, even without licenses i would want no club with a academy that meets certain criteria to be relegated below nst until we have enough academies up to standard
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 https://greekherald.com.au/sports/south-melbourne-fc-calls-for-national-second-division-start-date-amid-claims-of-delays/Extremely waffly Open Letter My highlight The Association of Australian Football Clubs (AAFC) representing over 300 clubs across Australia was established with a charter to establish a National Second Division. The FA Board & the Executive can choose to ignore the will of the majority of Community based clubs across Australia & continue to protect the interests of 12 private franchises. The National Second Tier in 2025, is our opportunity to finally unify the game and complete the Football pyramid It’s time for the Chairman & Board of Football Australia to be pioneers and lead our great game.
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+xhttps://greekherald.com.au/sports/south-melbourne-fc-calls-for-national-second-division-start-date-amid-claims-of-delays/Extremely waffly Open Letter My highlight The Association of Australian Football Clubs (AAFC) representing over 300 clubs across Australia was established with a charter to establish a National Second Division. The FA Board & the Executive can choose to ignore the will of the majority of Community based clubs across Australia & continue to protect the interests of 12 private franchises. The National Second Tier in 2025, is our opportunity to finally unify the game and complete the Football pyramid It’s time for the Chairman & Board of Football Australia to be pioneers and lead our great game.
yeah need to get to the point if you want to pile pressure on. Not have 3 paragraphs about how amazing your club is, you aren't introducing danaerys tygarean here
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+x+x+x+x+x+x+xHaving a back and forth on reddit asking what would be wrong with npl on planes Amazingly, one reason given is because the 8 clubs in the nst are producing a large percentage of our youth and if they go bust youth development would fall apart They are quite atagonistic, and im doing all the work providing evidence for my views so probably want to jump out of the convo. But can anyone steel man this point? Why would it be less risky to have a systrm where the best teams for youth development are not allowed above state level? And why would npl on planes be more risky for clubs going broke than a full time nst? Yeah gotta say some on there are quite stubborn in their views. Some are completely shut-off to the idea of an NST when it's something that's absolutely possible, even though there's a bunch of hiccups. I don't get the dismissal of "NPL on planes", what the hell is wrong with that? If anything, that's probably how we could've started the NST instead, as Semi-Pro. Don't have to worry about clubs going broke and players keep their day jobs. Now it seems like NST clubs might take on even more youth (on min. wage) to cut costs. How is that bad for our youth development? Don't worry about the antogonistic people, you just can't chat thoughtfully with those types. Whilst they can make some decent points worth considering, they couldn't care to consider anyone else's points. I've looked into pyramids and general travel expenses and really don't understand how this can't get up financially. It can be run off the smell of an oily rag (as long as Perth are excluded, sorry guys) and maybe why we don't want to get the PFA involved to introduce and inflate more costs. Maybe I'll share my own thoughts on the pyramid at some point. I agree - npl on planes is intended and taken as a slur but every time I hear it I'm like "yeah? That's what we want isn't it?" I mean if we can get something better maybe its worth a try, but start where you are at and build would be very interested in your pyramid thoughts. The thread on reddit suggested someones own pyramid. My idea for a pyramid after looking at the economics of p&r would be to have 1 of the promotion spots each year reserved for the best relegated team for the previous season (so if a vic team gets relegated in 2025 and gets 30 points in the npl in 2026 and a nsw team relegated in 2025 and gets 32 points in 2026 then the nsw team gets promoted). The reasons for this are because teams that got promoted gained more in fans than they lost when relegated, this is true even in the nsl era, so yoyo clubs grow. Making sure there is at least one yoyo per team could speed up growth Just needs a caveat. If South Melbourne end up with wooden spoon then they don't get relegated. Just like 1979. 😁 Let’s NOT forget 1980 and 1981 for West Adelaide.... or the two conference league shennanigans... Bloody hell mate, it was a part time league made up of volunteer clubs who were making the rules up as they went along.... Jesus Christ, 45 years ago the then brains of football decided to relegate the lowest NSW team (even then the whole bullshit geographic spread fish where the fish are idiocy was being mentioned) instead of the bottom team on the table and it is STILL being brought up as a reason not to have a full league system here.... Who hurt you guys? Oi MSC, you know never trust a Butler - always shifty bastards because they serve well off peasants hahaha and they are the true bitters :) Nah mate, he is right in a way, the NSL was a debacle most of the time... I just dont get the whole pile on that just because the previous national comp was shit and the current comp is shit therefore we should just not bother and not try again..... Hey!!! I loved the NSL. Watched it longer than I have the A-league. It suffered some similar issues to the A-league. Shit people making stupid decisions.
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+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+xHaving a back and forth on reddit asking what would be wrong with npl on planes Amazingly, one reason given is because the 8 clubs in the nst are producing a large percentage of our youth and if they go bust youth development would fall apart They are quite atagonistic, and im doing all the work providing evidence for my views so probably want to jump out of the convo. But can anyone steel man this point? Why would it be less risky to have a systrm where the best teams for youth development are not allowed above state level? And why would npl on planes be more risky for clubs going broke than a full time nst? Yeah gotta say some on there are quite stubborn in their views. Some are completely shut-off to the idea of an NST when it's something that's absolutely possible, even though there's a bunch of hiccups. I don't get the dismissal of "NPL on planes", what the hell is wrong with that? If anything, that's probably how we could've started the NST instead, as Semi-Pro. Don't have to worry about clubs going broke and players keep their day jobs. Now it seems like NST clubs might take on even more youth (on min. wage) to cut costs. How is that bad for our youth development? Don't worry about the antogonistic people, you just can't chat thoughtfully with those types. Whilst they can make some decent points worth considering, they couldn't care to consider anyone else's points. I've looked into pyramids and general travel expenses and really don't understand how this can't get up financially. It can be run off the smell of an oily rag (as long as Perth are excluded, sorry guys) and maybe why we don't want to get the PFA involved to introduce and inflate more costs. Maybe I'll share my own thoughts on the pyramid at some point. I agree - npl on planes is intended and taken as a slur but every time I hear it I'm like "yeah? That's what we want isn't it?" I mean if we can get something better maybe its worth a try, but start where you are at and build would be very interested in your pyramid thoughts. The thread on reddit suggested someones own pyramid. My idea for a pyramid after looking at the economics of p&r would be to have 1 of the promotion spots each year reserved for the best relegated team for the previous season (so if a vic team gets relegated in 2025 and gets 30 points in the npl in 2026 and a nsw team relegated in 2025 and gets 32 points in 2026 then the nsw team gets promoted). The reasons for this are because teams that got promoted gained more in fans than they lost when relegated, this is true even in the nsl era, so yoyo clubs grow. Making sure there is at least one yoyo per team could speed up growth Just needs a caveat. If South Melbourne end up with wooden spoon then they don't get relegated. Just like 1979. 😁 Let’s NOT forget 1980 and 1981 for West Adelaide.... or the two conference league shennanigans... Bloody hell mate, it was a part time league made up of volunteer clubs who were making the rules up as they went along.... Jesus Christ, 45 years ago the then brains of football decided to relegate the lowest NSW team (even then the whole bullshit geographic spread fish where the fish are idiocy was being mentioned) instead of the bottom team on the table and it is STILL being brought up as a reason not to have a full league system here.... Who hurt you guys? Oi MSC, you know never trust a Butler - always shifty bastards because they serve well off peasants hahaha and they are the true bitters :) Nah mate, he is right in a way, the NSL was a debacle most of the time... I just dont get the whole pile on that just because the previous national comp was shit and the current comp is shit therefore we should just not bother and not try again..... Hey!!! I loved the NSL. Watched it longer than I have the A-league. It suffered some similar issues to the A-league. Shit people making stupid decisions.
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Riciti liked a tweet saying apias next move is the championship
Time to read into it haha
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+xhttps://greekherald.com.au/sports/south-melbourne-fc-calls-for-national-second-division-start-date-amid-claims-of-delays/Extremely waffly Open Letter My highlight The Association of Australian Football Clubs (AAFC) representing over 300 clubs across Australia was established with a charter to establish a National Second Division. The FA Board & the Executive can choose to ignore the will of the majority of Community based clubs across Australia & continue to protect the interests of 12 private franchises. The National Second Tier in 2025, is our opportunity to finally unify the game and complete the Football pyramid It’s time for the Chairman & Board of Football Australia to be pioneers and lead our great game.
Why would SFMC send out a Comms right now on NSD? They must be fed up with FA and know nothing will happen for 2025 or else why risk the any slim chance that it will proceed as planned. Nothing to gain, FA wouldnt look at this favourably. FA kicking the can down the road is the standard wow… PR face they are doing something…
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+x+xhttps://greekherald.com.au/sports/south-melbourne-fc-calls-for-national-second-division-start-date-amid-claims-of-delays/Extremely waffly Open Letter My highlight The Association of Australian Football Clubs (AAFC) representing over 300 clubs across Australia was established with a charter to establish a National Second Division. The FA Board & the Executive can choose to ignore the will of the majority of Community based clubs across Australia & continue to protect the interests of 12 private franchises. The National Second Tier in 2025, is our opportunity to finally unify the game and complete the Football pyramid It’s time for the Chairman & Board of Football Australia to be pioneers and lead our great game.
Why would SFMC send out a Comms right now on NSD? They must be fed up with FA and know nothing will happen for 2025 or else why risk the any slim chance that it will proceed as planned. Nothing to gain, FA wouldnt look at this favourably. FA kicking the can down the road is the standard wow… PR face they are doing something… Yeah not the sort of thing you say if you are expecting good news To be fair its also not the thing you say if all hope is lost
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Plenty unimpressed people at the Waratah Cup? probably some talk that has come down to the Victorians.
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+xPlenty unimpressed people at the Waratah Cup? probably some talk that has come down to the Victorians. Comprehensive win by APIA, Rockdale have dropped these past few weeks...... Was there any crowd mate, it looked pretty empty on youtube?
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+x+xhttps://greekherald.com.au/sports/south-melbourne-fc-calls-for-national-second-division-start-date-amid-claims-of-delays/Extremely waffly Open Letter My highlight The Association of Australian Football Clubs (AAFC) representing over 300 clubs across Australia was established with a charter to establish a National Second Division. The FA Board & the Executive can choose to ignore the will of the majority of Community based clubs across Australia & continue to protect the interests of 12 private franchises. The National Second Tier in 2025, is our opportunity to finally unify the game and complete the Football pyramid It’s time for the Chairman & Board of Football Australia to be pioneers and lead our great game.
Why would SFMC send out a Comms right now on NSD? They must be fed up with FA and know nothing will happen for 2025 or else why risk the any slim chance that it will proceed as planned. Nothing to gain, FA wouldnt look at this favourably. FA kicking the can down the road is the standard wow… PR face they are doing something… SMFC firing a final shot in anger I would suspect.... Its so deflating, looks like another 2 decades playing state league..... farkin football in Australia...
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+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+xHaving a back and forth on reddit asking what would be wrong with npl on planes Amazingly, one reason given is because the 8 clubs in the nst are producing a large percentage of our youth and if they go bust youth development would fall apart They are quite atagonistic, and im doing all the work providing evidence for my views so probably want to jump out of the convo. But can anyone steel man this point? Why would it be less risky to have a systrm where the best teams for youth development are not allowed above state level? And why would npl on planes be more risky for clubs going broke than a full time nst? Yeah gotta say some on there are quite stubborn in their views. Some are completely shut-off to the idea of an NST when it's something that's absolutely possible, even though there's a bunch of hiccups. I don't get the dismissal of "NPL on planes", what the hell is wrong with that? If anything, that's probably how we could've started the NST instead, as Semi-Pro. Don't have to worry about clubs going broke and players keep their day jobs. Now it seems like NST clubs might take on even more youth (on min. wage) to cut costs. How is that bad for our youth development? Don't worry about the antogonistic people, you just can't chat thoughtfully with those types. Whilst they can make some decent points worth considering, they couldn't care to consider anyone else's points. I've looked into pyramids and general travel expenses and really don't understand how this can't get up financially. It can be run off the smell of an oily rag (as long as Perth are excluded, sorry guys) and maybe why we don't want to get the PFA involved to introduce and inflate more costs. Maybe I'll share my own thoughts on the pyramid at some point. I agree - npl on planes is intended and taken as a slur but every time I hear it I'm like "yeah? That's what we want isn't it?" I mean if we can get something better maybe its worth a try, but start where you are at and build would be very interested in your pyramid thoughts. The thread on reddit suggested someones own pyramid. My idea for a pyramid after looking at the economics of p&r would be to have 1 of the promotion spots each year reserved for the best relegated team for the previous season (so if a vic team gets relegated in 2025 and gets 30 points in the npl in 2026 and a nsw team relegated in 2025 and gets 32 points in 2026 then the nsw team gets promoted). The reasons for this are because teams that got promoted gained more in fans than they lost when relegated, this is true even in the nsl era, so yoyo clubs grow. Making sure there is at least one yoyo per team could speed up growth Just needs a caveat. If South Melbourne end up with wooden spoon then they don't get relegated. Just like 1979. 😁 Let’s NOT forget 1980 and 1981 for West Adelaide.... or the two conference league shennanigans... Bloody hell mate, it was a part time league made up of volunteer clubs who were making the rules up as they went along.... Jesus Christ, 45 years ago the then brains of football decided to relegate the lowest NSW team (even then the whole bullshit geographic spread fish where the fish are idiocy was being mentioned) instead of the bottom team on the table and it is STILL being brought up as a reason not to have a full league system here.... Who hurt you guys? Oi MSC, you know never trust a Butler - always shifty bastards because they serve well off peasants hahaha and they are the true bitters :) Nah mate, he is right in a way, the NSL was a debacle most of the time... I just dont get the whole pile on that just because the previous national comp was shit and the current comp is shit therefore we should just not bother and not try again..... Hey!!! I loved the NSL. Watched it longer than I have the A-league. It suffered some similar issues to the A-league. Shit people making stupid decisions. No arguments there. The more things change the more they stay the same ---- only difference is less wogs.
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+x+xhttps://greekherald.com.au/sports/south-melbourne-fc-calls-for-national-second-division-start-date-amid-claims-of-delays/Extremely waffly Open Letter My highlight The Association of Australian Football Clubs (AAFC) representing over 300 clubs across Australia was established with a charter to establish a National Second Division. The FA Board & the Executive can choose to ignore the will of the majority of Community based clubs across Australia & continue to protect the interests of 12 private franchises. The National Second Tier in 2025, is our opportunity to finally unify the game and complete the Football pyramid It’s time for the Chairman & Board of Football Australia to be pioneers and lead our great game.
yeah need to get to the point if you want to pile pressure on. Not have 3 paragraphs about how amazing your club is, you aren't introducing danaerys tygarean here You tried the same GoT dad joke on Reddit mate, I dont think those pre-pubescent New Zealanders have read the books or remember anything other than the rape and incest scenes from the series.... lol Lets hope the other 7 foundation clubs are a little more laconic in their press releases .... Im sure they will say something after they have just lost so much money.... surely? anyone? ... anything? .. a few words even?
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+xhttps://greekherald.com.au/sports/south-melbourne-fc-calls-for-national-second-division-start-date-amid-claims-of-delays/Extremely waffly Open Letter My highlight The Association of Australian Football Clubs (AAFC) representing over 300 clubs across Australia was established with a charter to establish a National Second Division. The FA Board & the Executive can choose to ignore the will of the majority of Community based clubs across Australia & continue to protect the interests of 12 private franchises. The National Second Tier in 2025, is our opportunity to finally unify the game and complete the Football pyramid It’s time for the Chairman & Board of Football Australia to be pioneers and lead our great game.
my highlight: South Melbourne FC along with the other NST Foundation Clubs went through an extensive RFP & submission process, as well as provide a $500,000 Bank Guarantee based on the understanding & assurances that we would be establishing a standalone home & away second division.
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+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+xHaving a back and forth on reddit asking what would be wrong with npl on planes Amazingly, one reason given is because the 8 clubs in the nst are producing a large percentage of our youth and if they go bust youth development would fall apart They are quite atagonistic, and im doing all the work providing evidence for my views so probably want to jump out of the convo. But can anyone steel man this point? Why would it be less risky to have a systrm where the best teams for youth development are not allowed above state level? And why would npl on planes be more risky for clubs going broke than a full time nst? Yeah gotta say some on there are quite stubborn in their views. Some are completely shut-off to the idea of an NST when it's something that's absolutely possible, even though there's a bunch of hiccups. I don't get the dismissal of "NPL on planes", what the hell is wrong with that? If anything, that's probably how we could've started the NST instead, as Semi-Pro. Don't have to worry about clubs going broke and players keep their day jobs. Now it seems like NST clubs might take on even more youth (on min. wage) to cut costs. How is that bad for our youth development? Don't worry about the antogonistic people, you just can't chat thoughtfully with those types. Whilst they can make some decent points worth considering, they couldn't care to consider anyone else's points. I've looked into pyramids and general travel expenses and really don't understand how this can't get up financially. It can be run off the smell of an oily rag (as long as Perth are excluded, sorry guys) and maybe why we don't want to get the PFA involved to introduce and inflate more costs. Maybe I'll share my own thoughts on the pyramid at some point. I agree - npl on planes is intended and taken as a slur but every time I hear it I'm like "yeah? That's what we want isn't it?" I mean if we can get something better maybe its worth a try, but start where you are at and build would be very interested in your pyramid thoughts. The thread on reddit suggested someones own pyramid. My idea for a pyramid after looking at the economics of p&r would be to have 1 of the promotion spots each year reserved for the best relegated team for the previous season (so if a vic team gets relegated in 2025 and gets 30 points in the npl in 2026 and a nsw team relegated in 2025 and gets 32 points in 2026 then the nsw team gets promoted). The reasons for this are because teams that got promoted gained more in fans than they lost when relegated, this is true even in the nsl era, so yoyo clubs grow. Making sure there is at least one yoyo per team could speed up growth Just needs a caveat. If South Melbourne end up with wooden spoon then they don't get relegated. Just like 1979. 😁 Lets NOT forget 1980 and 1981 for West Adelaide.... or the two conference league shennanigans... Bloody hell mate, it was a part time league made up of volunteer clubs who were making the rules up as they went along.... Jesus Christ, 45 years ago the then brains of football decided to relegate the lowest NSW team (even then the whole bullshit geographic spread fish where the fish are idiocy was being mentioned) instead of the bottom team on the table and it is STILL being brought up as a reason not to have a full league system here.... Who hurt you guys? having some clubs protected from relegation to the npl would actually be a good thing for the first few decades of p&r. The data says we actually got the benefits of P&R during the nsl era, it just wasn't a smart enough system to minimize the risks given australia has 9 leagues trying to get promoted into 1 Protection from relegation should probably be based on clubs who are willing to make long term investments - academies or stadiums So you would get out the blowtorch on the franchises in the Aleague then? Having ANY clubs protected from relegation is a bullshit idea, sorry grazor, that sort of thinking has to stop if we are tog et anywhere at club level... what next awarding draft picks to the clubs that finish bottom of the table? It would be inevitable with licenses that a league clubs wont be relegated below the nst in an optimistic scenario. Moreover, even without licenses i would want no club with a academy that meets certain criteria to be relegated below nst until we have enough academies up to standard What about aleague franchises that don't currently have academies? Are they exempt? https://brisbaneroar.com.au/news/brisbane-roar-fc-statement-on-academy/
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+x+xPlenty unimpressed people at the Waratah Cup? probably some talk that has come down to the Victorians. Comprehensive win by APIA, Rockdale have dropped these past few weeks...... Was there any crowd mate, it looked pretty empty on youtube? Pissing down rain Wednesday night played at a rugby league venue surprised that many people actually went probably was 500 or so. Pretty embarrassing considering the league match between both sides got a healthy crowd. But yes we dominated and deserved a win
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+x+x+xPlenty unimpressed people at the Waratah Cup? probably some talk that has come down to the Victorians. Comprehensive win by APIA, Rockdale have dropped these past few weeks...... Was there any crowd mate, it looked pretty empty on youtube? Pissing down rain Wednesday night played at a rugby league venue surprised that many people actually went probably was 500 or so. Pretty embarrassing considering the league match between both sides got a healthy crowd. But yes we dominated and deserved a win Happy you got some silverware this season bud.... APIA started off strong and fizzled tail end of the year.
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+x+x+xPlenty unimpressed people at the Waratah Cup? probably some talk that has come down to the Victorians. Comprehensive win by APIA, Rockdale have dropped these past few weeks...... Was there any crowd mate, it looked pretty empty on youtube? Pissing down rain Wednesday night played at a rugby league venue surprised that many people actually went probably was 500 or so. Pretty embarrassing considering the league match between both sides got a healthy crowd. But yes we dominated and deserved a win Yep like Totti said, it was a night where the moaners could find a lot to make a narrative of.
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+x+x+x+xPlenty unimpressed people at the Waratah Cup? probably some talk that has come down to the Victorians. Comprehensive win by APIA, Rockdale have dropped these past few weeks...... Was there any crowd mate, it looked pretty empty on youtube? Pissing down rain Wednesday night played at a rugby league venue surprised that many people actually went probably was 500 or so. Pretty embarrassing considering the league match between both sides got a healthy crowd. But yes we dominated and deserved a win Happy you got some silverware this season bud.... APIA started off strong and fizzled tail end of the year. Really still upset about how we got knocked out in the Aus cup and now given up a top 2 spot hope we get an Italian derby in the semi and smack them at the palace
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+x+x+xhttps://greekherald.com.au/sports/south-melbourne-fc-calls-for-national-second-division-start-date-amid-claims-of-delays/Extremely waffly Open Letter My highlight The Association of Australian Football Clubs (AAFC) representing over 300 clubs across Australia was established with a charter to establish a National Second Division. The FA Board & the Executive can choose to ignore the will of the majority of Community based clubs across Australia & continue to protect the interests of 12 private franchises. The National Second Tier in 2025, is our opportunity to finally unify the game and complete the Football pyramid It’s time for the Chairman & Board of Football Australia to be pioneers and lead our great game.
yeah need to get to the point if you want to pile pressure on. Not have 3 paragraphs about how amazing your club is, you aren't introducing danaerys tygarean here You tried the same GoT dad joke on Reddit mate, I dont think those pre-pubescent New Zealanders have read the books or remember anything other than the rape and incest scenes from the series.... lol Lets hope the other 7 foundation clubs are a little more laconic in their press releases .... Im sure they will say something after they have just lost so much money.... surely? anyone? ... anything? .. a few words even? stalker :P do you post there?
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+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+xHaving a back and forth on reddit asking what would be wrong with npl on planes Amazingly, one reason given is because the 8 clubs in the nst are producing a large percentage of our youth and if they go bust youth development would fall apart They are quite atagonistic, and im doing all the work providing evidence for my views so probably want to jump out of the convo. But can anyone steel man this point? Why would it be less risky to have a systrm where the best teams for youth development are not allowed above state level? And why would npl on planes be more risky for clubs going broke than a full time nst? Yeah gotta say some on there are quite stubborn in their views. Some are completely shut-off to the idea of an NST when it's something that's absolutely possible, even though there's a bunch of hiccups. I don't get the dismissal of "NPL on planes", what the hell is wrong with that? If anything, that's probably how we could've started the NST instead, as Semi-Pro. Don't have to worry about clubs going broke and players keep their day jobs. Now it seems like NST clubs might take on even more youth (on min. wage) to cut costs. How is that bad for our youth development? Don't worry about the antogonistic people, you just can't chat thoughtfully with those types. Whilst they can make some decent points worth considering, they couldn't care to consider anyone else's points. I've looked into pyramids and general travel expenses and really don't understand how this can't get up financially. It can be run off the smell of an oily rag (as long as Perth are excluded, sorry guys) and maybe why we don't want to get the PFA involved to introduce and inflate more costs. Maybe I'll share my own thoughts on the pyramid at some point. I agree - npl on planes is intended and taken as a slur but every time I hear it I'm like "yeah? That's what we want isn't it?" I mean if we can get something better maybe its worth a try, but start where you are at and build would be very interested in your pyramid thoughts. The thread on reddit suggested someones own pyramid. My idea for a pyramid after looking at the economics of p&r would be to have 1 of the promotion spots each year reserved for the best relegated team for the previous season (so if a vic team gets relegated in 2025 and gets 30 points in the npl in 2026 and a nsw team relegated in 2025 and gets 32 points in 2026 then the nsw team gets promoted). The reasons for this are because teams that got promoted gained more in fans than they lost when relegated, this is true even in the nsl era, so yoyo clubs grow. Making sure there is at least one yoyo per team could speed up growth Just needs a caveat. If South Melbourne end up with wooden spoon then they don't get relegated. Just like 1979. 😁 Lets NOT forget 1980 and 1981 for West Adelaide.... or the two conference league shennanigans... Bloody hell mate, it was a part time league made up of volunteer clubs who were making the rules up as they went along.... Jesus Christ, 45 years ago the then brains of football decided to relegate the lowest NSW team (even then the whole bullshit geographic spread fish where the fish are idiocy was being mentioned) instead of the bottom team on the table and it is STILL being brought up as a reason not to have a full league system here.... Who hurt you guys? having some clubs protected from relegation to the npl would actually be a good thing for the first few decades of p&r. The data says we actually got the benefits of P&R during the nsl era, it just wasn't a smart enough system to minimize the risks given australia has 9 leagues trying to get promoted into 1 Protection from relegation should probably be based on clubs who are willing to make long term investments - academies or stadiums So you would get out the blowtorch on the franchises in the Aleague then? Having ANY clubs protected from relegation is a bullshit idea, sorry grazor, that sort of thinking has to stop if we are tog et anywhere at club level... what next awarding draft picks to the clubs that finish bottom of the table? It would be inevitable with licenses that a league clubs wont be relegated below the nst in an optimistic scenario. Moreover, even without licenses i would want no club with a academy that meets certain criteria to be relegated below nst until we have enough academies up to standard What about aleague franchises that don't currently have academies? Are they exempt? https://brisbaneroar.com.au/news/brisbane-roar-fc-statement-on-academy/ fa have introduced an academy rating. Indeed if a club doesnt have an academy up to those standards then there is no loss if that team gets relegated down to npl. Having said that there is the issue of licenses
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+x+x+x+xhttps://greekherald.com.au/sports/south-melbourne-fc-calls-for-national-second-division-start-date-amid-claims-of-delays/Extremely waffly Open Letter My highlight The Association of Australian Football Clubs (AAFC) representing over 300 clubs across Australia was established with a charter to establish a National Second Division. The FA Board & the Executive can choose to ignore the will of the majority of Community based clubs across Australia & continue to protect the interests of 12 private franchises. The National Second Tier in 2025, is our opportunity to finally unify the game and complete the Football pyramid It’s time for the Chairman & Board of Football Australia to be pioneers and lead our great game.
yeah need to get to the point if you want to pile pressure on. Not have 3 paragraphs about how amazing your club is, you aren't introducing danaerys tygarean here You tried the same GoT dad joke on Reddit mate, I dont think those pre-pubescent New Zealanders have read the books or remember anything other than the rape and incest scenes from the series.... lol Lets hope the other 7 foundation clubs are a little more laconic in their press releases .... Im sure they will say something after they have just lost so much money.... surely? anyone? ... anything? .. a few words even? stalker :P do you post there? hahaha no, I dont bother, just read the threads sometimes, searching for news not reported here... Some of those guys are so feral its hilarious.... I worry whats gonna happen to them if the NST does actually ever get running.... there will be a lot of incel suicides in damp basements across New Zealand.
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+x+x+x+x+xhttps://greekherald.com.au/sports/south-melbourne-fc-calls-for-national-second-division-start-date-amid-claims-of-delays/Extremely waffly Open Letter My highlight The Association of Australian Football Clubs (AAFC) representing over 300 clubs across Australia was established with a charter to establish a National Second Division. The FA Board & the Executive can choose to ignore the will of the majority of Community based clubs across Australia & continue to protect the interests of 12 private franchises. The National Second Tier in 2025, is our opportunity to finally unify the game and complete the Football pyramid It’s time for the Chairman & Board of Football Australia to be pioneers and lead our great game.
yeah need to get to the point if you want to pile pressure on. Not have 3 paragraphs about how amazing your club is, you aren't introducing danaerys tygarean here You tried the same GoT dad joke on Reddit mate, I dont think those pre-pubescent New Zealanders have read the books or remember anything other than the rape and incest scenes from the series.... lol Lets hope the other 7 foundation clubs are a little more laconic in their press releases .... Im sure they will say something after they have just lost so much money.... surely? anyone? ... anything? .. a few words even? stalker :P do you post there? hahaha no, I dont bother, just read the threads sometimes, searching for news not reported here... Some of those guys are so feral its hilarious.... I worry whats gonna happen to them if the NST does actually ever get running.... there will be a lot of incel suicides in damp basements across New Zealand. well will make rivalries good if a pyramid ever gets off the ground
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+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+xHaving a back and forth on reddit asking what would be wrong with npl on planes Amazingly, one reason given is because the 8 clubs in the nst are producing a large percentage of our youth and if they go bust youth development would fall apart They are quite atagonistic, and im doing all the work providing evidence for my views so probably want to jump out of the convo. But can anyone steel man this point? Why would it be less risky to have a systrm where the best teams for youth development are not allowed above state level? And why would npl on planes be more risky for clubs going broke than a full time nst? Yeah gotta say some on there are quite stubborn in their views. Some are completely shut-off to the idea of an NST when it's something that's absolutely possible, even though there's a bunch of hiccups. I don't get the dismissal of "NPL on planes", what the hell is wrong with that? If anything, that's probably how we could've started the NST instead, as Semi-Pro. Don't have to worry about clubs going broke and players keep their day jobs. Now it seems like NST clubs might take on even more youth (on min. wage) to cut costs. How is that bad for our youth development? Don't worry about the antogonistic people, you just can't chat thoughtfully with those types. Whilst they can make some decent points worth considering, they couldn't care to consider anyone else's points. I've looked into pyramids and general travel expenses and really don't understand how this can't get up financially. It can be run off the smell of an oily rag (as long as Perth are excluded, sorry guys) and maybe why we don't want to get the PFA involved to introduce and inflate more costs. Maybe I'll share my own thoughts on the pyramid at some point. I agree - npl on planes is intended and taken as a slur but every time I hear it I'm like "yeah? That's what we want isn't it?" I mean if we can get something better maybe its worth a try, but start where you are at and build would be very interested in your pyramid thoughts. The thread on reddit suggested someones own pyramid. My idea for a pyramid after looking at the economics of p&r would be to have 1 of the promotion spots each year reserved for the best relegated team for the previous season (so if a vic team gets relegated in 2025 and gets 30 points in the npl in 2026 and a nsw team relegated in 2025 and gets 32 points in 2026 then the nsw team gets promoted). The reasons for this are because teams that got promoted gained more in fans than they lost when relegated, this is true even in the nsl era, so yoyo clubs grow. Making sure there is at least one yoyo per team could speed up growth Just needs a caveat. If South Melbourne end up with wooden spoon then they don't get relegated. Just like 1979. 😁 Lets NOT forget 1980 and 1981 for West Adelaide.... or the two conference league shennanigans... Bloody hell mate, it was a part time league made up of volunteer clubs who were making the rules up as they went along.... Jesus Christ, 45 years ago the then brains of football decided to relegate the lowest NSW team (even then the whole bullshit geographic spread fish where the fish are idiocy was being mentioned) instead of the bottom team on the table and it is STILL being brought up as a reason not to have a full league system here.... Who hurt you guys? having some clubs protected from relegation to the npl would actually be a good thing for the first few decades of p&r. The data says we actually got the benefits of P&R during the nsl era, it just wasn't a smart enough system to minimize the risks given australia has 9 leagues trying to get promoted into 1 Protection from relegation should probably be based on clubs who are willing to make long term investments - academies or stadiums So you would get out the blowtorch on the franchises in the Aleague then? Having ANY clubs protected from relegation is a bullshit idea, sorry grazor, that sort of thinking has to stop if we are tog et anywhere at club level... what next awarding draft picks to the clubs that finish bottom of the table? It would be inevitable with licenses that a league clubs wont be relegated below the nst in an optimistic scenario. Moreover, even without licenses i would want no club with a academy that meets certain criteria to be relegated below nst until we have enough academies up to standard What about aleague franchises that don't currently have academies? Are they exempt? https://brisbaneroar.com.au/news/brisbane-roar-fc-statement-on-academy/ fa have introduced an academy rating. Indeed if a club doesnt have an academy up to those standards then there is no loss if that team gets relegated down to npl. Having said that there is the issue of licenses What issue with licenses? Johnson was clear when asked to clarify if A-League club licences prevented their relegation. "No. It doesn't," he said.https://www.espn.com.au/football/story/_/id/37622518/fa-ceo-james-johnson-outlines-roadmap-promotion-relegation-australia
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+x+x+x+x+xPlenty unimpressed people at the Waratah Cup? probably some talk that has come down to the Victorians. Comprehensive win by APIA, Rockdale have dropped these past few weeks...... Was there any crowd mate, it looked pretty empty on youtube? Pissing down rain Wednesday night played at a rugby league venue surprised that many people actually went probably was 500 or so. Pretty embarrassing considering the league match between both sides got a healthy crowd. But yes we dominated and deserved a win Happy you got some silverware this season bud.... APIA started off strong and fizzled tail end of the year. Really still upset about how we got knocked out in the Aus cup and now given up a top 2 spot hope we get an Italian derby in the semi and smack them at the palace I know, next weeks game "could" have been South v APIA ...... :)
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+x+x+x+x+x+xhttps://greekherald.com.au/sports/south-melbourne-fc-calls-for-national-second-division-start-date-amid-claims-of-delays/Extremely waffly Open Letter My highlight The Association of Australian Football Clubs (AAFC) representing over 300 clubs across Australia was established with a charter to establish a National Second Division. The FA Board & the Executive can choose to ignore the will of the majority of Community based clubs across Australia & continue to protect the interests of 12 private franchises. The National Second Tier in 2025, is our opportunity to finally unify the game and complete the Football pyramid It’s time for the Chairman & Board of Football Australia to be pioneers and lead our great game.
yeah need to get to the point if you want to pile pressure on. Not have 3 paragraphs about how amazing your club is, you aren't introducing danaerys tygarean here You tried the same GoT dad joke on Reddit mate, I dont think those pre-pubescent New Zealanders have read the books or remember anything other than the rape and incest scenes from the series.... lol Lets hope the other 7 foundation clubs are a little more laconic in their press releases .... Im sure they will say something after they have just lost so much money.... surely? anyone? ... anything? .. a few words even? stalker :P do you post there? hahaha no, I dont bother, just read the threads sometimes, searching for news not reported here... Some of those guys are so feral its hilarious.... I worry whats gonna happen to them if the NST does actually ever get running.... there will be a lot of incel suicides in damp basements across New Zealand. well will make rivalries good if a pyramid ever gets off the ground I dont think they will still be around by the time a true pyramid ever happens here mate...
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+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+xHaving a back and forth on reddit asking what would be wrong with npl on planes Amazingly, one reason given is because the 8 clubs in the nst are producing a large percentage of our youth and if they go bust youth development would fall apart They are quite atagonistic, and im doing all the work providing evidence for my views so probably want to jump out of the convo. But can anyone steel man this point? Why would it be less risky to have a systrm where the best teams for youth development are not allowed above state level? And why would npl on planes be more risky for clubs going broke than a full time nst? Yeah gotta say some on there are quite stubborn in their views. Some are completely shut-off to the idea of an NST when it's something that's absolutely possible, even though there's a bunch of hiccups. I don't get the dismissal of "NPL on planes", what the hell is wrong with that? If anything, that's probably how we could've started the NST instead, as Semi-Pro. Don't have to worry about clubs going broke and players keep their day jobs. Now it seems like NST clubs might take on even more youth (on min. wage) to cut costs. How is that bad for our youth development? Don't worry about the antogonistic people, you just can't chat thoughtfully with those types. Whilst they can make some decent points worth considering, they couldn't care to consider anyone else's points. I've looked into pyramids and general travel expenses and really don't understand how this can't get up financially. It can be run off the smell of an oily rag (as long as Perth are excluded, sorry guys) and maybe why we don't want to get the PFA involved to introduce and inflate more costs. Maybe I'll share my own thoughts on the pyramid at some point. I agree - npl on planes is intended and taken as a slur but every time I hear it I'm like "yeah? That's what we want isn't it?" I mean if we can get something better maybe its worth a try, but start where you are at and build would be very interested in your pyramid thoughts. The thread on reddit suggested someones own pyramid. My idea for a pyramid after looking at the economics of p&r would be to have 1 of the promotion spots each year reserved for the best relegated team for the previous season (so if a vic team gets relegated in 2025 and gets 30 points in the npl in 2026 and a nsw team relegated in 2025 and gets 32 points in 2026 then the nsw team gets promoted). The reasons for this are because teams that got promoted gained more in fans than they lost when relegated, this is true even in the nsl era, so yoyo clubs grow. Making sure there is at least one yoyo per team could speed up growth Just needs a caveat. If South Melbourne end up with wooden spoon then they don't get relegated. Just like 1979. 😁 Lets NOT forget 1980 and 1981 for West Adelaide.... or the two conference league shennanigans... Bloody hell mate, it was a part time league made up of volunteer clubs who were making the rules up as they went along.... Jesus Christ, 45 years ago the then brains of football decided to relegate the lowest NSW team (even then the whole bullshit geographic spread fish where the fish are idiocy was being mentioned) instead of the bottom team on the table and it is STILL being brought up as a reason not to have a full league system here.... Who hurt you guys? having some clubs protected from relegation to the npl would actually be a good thing for the first few decades of p&r. The data says we actually got the benefits of P&R during the nsl era, it just wasn't a smart enough system to minimize the risks given australia has 9 leagues trying to get promoted into 1 Protection from relegation should probably be based on clubs who are willing to make long term investments - academies or stadiums So you would get out the blowtorch on the franchises in the Aleague then? Having ANY clubs protected from relegation is a bullshit idea, sorry grazor, that sort of thinking has to stop if we are tog et anywhere at club level... what next awarding draft picks to the clubs that finish bottom of the table? It would be inevitable with licenses that a league clubs wont be relegated below the nst in an optimistic scenario. Moreover, even without licenses i would want no club with a academy that meets certain criteria to be relegated below nst until we have enough academies up to standard What about aleague franchises that don't currently have academies? Are they exempt? https://brisbaneroar.com.au/news/brisbane-roar-fc-statement-on-academy/ fa have introduced an academy rating. Indeed if a club doesnt have an academy up to those standards then there is no loss if that team gets relegated down to npl. Having said that there is the issue of licenses What issue with licenses? Johnson was clear when asked to clarify if A-League club licences prevented their relegation. "No. It doesn't," he said.https://www.espn.com.au/football/story/_/id/37622518/fa-ceo-james-johnson-outlines-roadmap-promotion-relegation-australia if a licensed club got relegated to nst that's one thing I'd be amazed if a licensed club got relegated to the npl could happen but I guess a lot of steps have to come frist before thats a chance of happening start with the fa saying something (anything) are other clubs putting pressure on the fa. Spewing that Queensland lions didn't submit a bid. Could run the whole league with the money they grab from grannies.....not very ethical mind you
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