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+x+x+xSo there's 12 clubs already rusted on as initiates into the NSD and a minimum of 8 exploring the possibility of joining. Surely that says more about the health of Football in Australia than what may or may not be happening with the 14th franchise in the APL. no, 8 & 8 Loving the interest but sort of disappointed that no SA or WA clubs have put there hand up as yet... ACT I sort of understand as it sounds like they are going hell for leather to get into the Aleague.... but we desperately NEED a SA club at least in the first season in my opinion, then let the cards fall where they may. The word from the early days of discussions was that three SA clubs could afford NST, and one was to be included in a 12 team comp. Then it became SA might not be included initially but will be added for the second season. I don't know what changed, whether state disorganisation, club realities, maybe FA being more conservative to start with, who knows? Maybe SA will put their hand up for it early next year, but it's all very quiet.
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+x+x+xSelf Announced clubs interested in a 2025 start1. Melbourne Knights2. Brisbane United3. Sunshine Coast Fire4. Gold Coast United5. Heidelberg6. South Hobart7. Rockdale
8. Caroline Springs George Cross
Caroline Springs George Cross FC continues to explore the pathway to the National Second Division One of Australia's most storied football clubs - Caroline Springs George Cross - has confirmed its steadfast exploration of becoming a foundation member of the National Second Division (NSD) competition heralded by Football Australia and forecast to commence in March 2025. ......
“Our supporters have been enthused in recent times with our success in the iconic Australia Cup and proudly carry their shared Maltese and Australian heritage, creating a cultural tapestry that is woven into the fabric of our club and Melbourne’s burgeoning west,”
“While there is much work and careful planning to come, our board, members, supporters and other key stakeholders are keenly eyeing further developments from Football Australia in regard to progression of the NSD.
https://www.georgecrossfc.com.au/nsd-media
Well that rules out Avondale playing at City Vista I guess.... C'mon the Georgies !!!!!!!!!!! Those mad arse Maltese are unreal.... Hehe more mad vibe in the NST ! They are a great bunch of people the Maltese... Degenerate gamblers and drinkers and soccer crazy ...... Georgies are a well financed club from what I understand after selling Chaplin Reserve (what a place that was...) Would love to play them again.....
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+x+x+x+xSo there's 12 clubs already rusted on as initiates into the NSD and a minimum of 8 exploring the possibility of joining. Surely that says more about the health of Football in Australia than what may or may not be happening with the 14th franchise in the APL. no, 8 & 8 Loving the interest but sort of disappointed that no SA or WA clubs have put there hand up as yet... ACT I sort of understand as it sounds like they are going hell for leather to get into the Aleague.... but we desperately NEED a SA club at least in the first season in my opinion, then let the cards fall where they may. Would love adelaide city to return More than pretty much anything else, this... would LOVE another crack at Juve :)
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+x+x+x+xSo there's 12 clubs already rusted on as initiates into the NSD and a minimum of 8 exploring the possibility of joining. Surely that says more about the health of Football in Australia than what may or may not be happening with the 14th franchise in the APL. no, 8 & 8 Loving the interest but sort of disappointed that no SA or WA clubs have put there hand up as yet... ACT I sort of understand as it sounds like they are going hell for leather to get into the Aleague.... but we desperately NEED a SA club at least in the first season in my opinion, then let the cards fall where they may. The word from the early days of discussions was that three SA clubs could afford NST, and one was to be included in a 12 team comp. Then it became SA might not be included initially but will be added for the second season. I don't know what changed, whether state disorganisation, club realities, maybe FA being more conservative to start with, who knows? Maybe SA will put their hand up for it early next year, but it's all very quiet. Im hearing that MetroStars are really pushing to be "the one": from SA but dont know much about them to be honest... I dont think we will hear much about anything this year but hope by mid/late Jan when clubland is starting to wake up from its off season a few announcements will be made....
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Its from Dec 4 this article but in case people hadn't seen this matter of interest. https://tbgaustralia.com/2023/12/04/nst-is-the-fas-chance-to-supercharge-facility-development/
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Its from Dec 4 this article but in case people hadn't seen this matter of interest. https://tbgaustralia.com/2023/12/04/nst-is-the-fas-chance-to-supercharge-facility-development/+x+x+x+xSo there's 12 clubs already rusted on as initiates into the NSD and a minimum of 8 exploring the possibility of joining. Surely that says more about the health of Football in Australia than what may or may not be happening with the 14th franchise in the APL. no, 8 & 8 Loving the interest but sort of disappointed that no SA or WA clubs have put there hand up as yet... ACT I sort of understand as it sounds like they are going hell for leather to get into the Aleague.... but we desperately NEED a SA club at least in the first season in my opinion, then let the cards fall where they may. The word from the early days of discussions was that three SA clubs could afford NST, and one was to be included in a 12 team comp. Then it became SA might not be included initially but will be added for the second season. I don't know what changed, whether state disorganisation, club realities, maybe FA being more conservative to start with, who knows? Maybe SA will put their hand up for it early next year, but it's all very quiet. yes who knows and like many really HOPE something eventuates from SA into '24 with some good news.
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1. Melbourne Knights2. Brisbane United3. Sunshine Coast Fire4. Gold Coast United5. Heidelberg6. South Hobart7. Rockdale
8. Caroline Springs George Cross
9. Brisbane Strikers
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Brisbane United remain steadfast in our belief that our collaboration of clubs model presenting a unique football offering with no existing rivalries, is the optimal club structure for a Brisbane NST team.
Our research clearly indicated that the collaboration model is key to the NST team having broad appeal across the community, and therefore a sustainable future, in what is a highly contested space with significant year-round running costs.
Importantly, Brisbane United know our model presents the best chance of bringing the entire Brisbane football community together, united around one team for the good of the game, and the good of the city.
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+x+x+x+x+x+x+xOn 10 October, Sunshine Coast FC received notice from Football Queensland (FQ), through their legal representatives, that they would not be invited to submit applications for participation licences for 2024.This effectively ended the club’s affiliation with FQ and left them without any state league competitions to participate in. Eight days later, FQ released their provisional declaration of leagues with Sunshine Coast FC nowhere to be found. However, a new club appeared that Wilkes believes is a direct replacement for Sunshine Coast FC. “Football Queensland then confirm that Sunshine Coast United is a new entity run by Football Queensland, and they will be entering the advanced league pathway stream,” said Wilkes. “We knew about Sunshine Coast United prior because [FQ] did exactly the same in the early part of 2020 when we had female SAP (skill acquisition phase) players in the under 9s to under 12s. “This Sunshine Coast United cropped up and took all of our junior girls, causing our SAP girls program to cease, to shut down. “After 12 months, that Sunshine Coast United disappeared … so they’ve had form on this.” This shit makes me so mad....... Im sure there may be two sides to the story but from the outside it looks like the former Brisbane City Aleague Bid poster boy is playing God up there and needs to have his head booted in.... Pays himslef an obscene salary to pretty much protect his mates investments... all the while kiddies are being fleeced to play NPL..... Nick Galatas on Qld ABC yesterday about the Football Queensland ding dong https://www.abc.net.au/listen/programs/south-queensland-drive/drive/103145052starts at 1:04:20 goes about 7 minutes. It just keeps getting better doesn't it? It does ... or doesn't Depends which way you look at it.  https://x.com/RobCavallucci/status/1731579643638252031?s=20 OMFG.... hahahaha @Muz and @tsf please tell me the language this clown uses doesn't remind you of a certain lower case individual preaching in the Extra time threads? hahahahahahahahah So this might be where still not having a Full Pyramid bites in the arse Looks like what Cavallucci is getting at, is that clubs that just decide to leave the FQ pyramid can't chose where they re-enter if they ever want to come back. Sunshine, Knights, GCU, Olympic etc haven't earnt promotion, they've just looked at fucking off to another stand alone competition for as long as they chose or get relegated. Re Sunshine Coast situation, They've been kicked out of FQPL1 (below the NPLQ) for reasons unknown at this point. Now, just because FA might let them in to the NST, that doesn't mean that they get straight entry to the NPLQ when Relegation starts operating. That hasn't been worked through or agreed. They haven't earnt their place in the NPL to begin with, even if they can afford to buy in to the NST 2025 Re Brisbane UnitedBU has never been in the FQ pyramid, never earnt their place anywhere, just stumping up cash So the FQ pyramid is supposed to let them parachute in from above whilst everyone else has to work their way up ? And that's not even bringing up how they might end up in the same division as the Strikers or Wolves. (something that's always concerned me and haven't seen addressed yet) Looks like it's become an issue with the FA
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Strikers Board Statement https://www.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=891145186347796&id=100063569676477&mibextid=WC7FNeNot sure what they're looking to achieve here, having not been able to get into NPL for a while but now they've got cash flow ? Just need Rabieh's side of the story and we might get some clarity
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Interesting...... Maybe Strikers had some sort of "chat" with FA???
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Would like Rabieh's take on it, but ultimately I think I see what is going on here. The Brisbane United model just doesn't work. You can't be an entity associated with member clubs playing above a division, then just get relegated to the same division and play with each other. At the very least it's a conflict of interest and logistically the only way it would work is to relegate all the feeder clubs every time BU crashes into the same division. And what if a feeder club got promoted. Just doesn't work.
I'm over the moon that Brisbane Strikers will bid as a stand alone. They never needed other clubs.
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Shots fired by FA it seems......
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+xWould like Rabieh's take on it, but ultimately I think I see what is going on here. The Brisbane United model just doesn't work. You can't be an entity associated with member clubs playing above a division, then just get relegated to the same division and play with each other. At the very least it's a conflict of interest and logistically the only way it would work is to relegate all the feeder clubs every time BU crashes into the same division. And what if a feeder club got promoted. Just doesn't work. I'm over the moon that Brisbane Strikers will bid as a stand alone. They never needed other clubs. I'll sign on as a member when they're in. Yeah Im with you on this, happy that Strikers are going it alone.... I wonder what sort of latent support they can draw from former fans.....
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1. Melbourne Knights 4. Gold Coast United 5. Heidelberg 6. South Hobart 8. Caroline Springs George Cross 9. Brisbane Strikers Please and thank you :)
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+xShots fired by FA it seems...... Yeah that's great. They'd be having a quiet chuckle behind the scenes you'd think.
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Surprisiginly little substance for a "told you so" article. It just collects all the APL fuckups and somehow attributes this to the sage of Hungarian speakers in Slovakia and his wisdom in predicting it all. It also rubs up a pretty serious woody on egg ball administrators and what a wonderful thing they were for football, because when you're an editor in sports print media, keeping the old boys on side is what keeps you in the game (and your berth in the yacht club). Separating the league from the FFA was and still is necessary. The next thing that has to happen is opening the league to competition, which is exactly what the FFA is now capable of doing being independent of the APL. The road will get us where we need to go, it just goes through shit holes like Whyalla on the way there.
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https://www.footballaustralia.com.au/news/football-australia-commences-process-selection-additional-national-second-tier-clubsFootball Australia is thrilled to announce the commencement of the next phase in the application process for the National Second Tier (NST) competition.Football Australia is extending an invitation to clubs, which previously submitted an NST Expression of Interest (EOI) in 2023, to engage in the Request for Proposal (RFP) phase. This initiative is integral to the NST's inception, with the league set to kick off its inaugural season in March/April 2025. Bang goes Brisbane Strikers and St George Cross
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Interesting to see if Blacktown City have another crack. We can assume FA will be probably prioritising options outside of Sydney, but if they can't get enough clubs Blacktown City might be an option.
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+xInteresting to see if Blacktown City have another crack. We can assume FA will be probably prioritising options outside of Sydney, but if they can't get enough clubs Blacktown City might be an option. I think the reason they weren't invited to submit an RFP was because their EOI was incomplete, So they probably don't qualify for this phase
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I don't care who or what Club proves their worth ahead for the NST. Just can't come soon enough.
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Depending on the final number of clubs, the season will feature either a 10-team or a 12-team home and away competition, followed by a competitive Finals Series. At least there is no longer talk of "Champions league series" ... Have Strikers or Georgies made any announcements mate?
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+x+xInteresting to see if Blacktown City have another crack. We can assume FA will be probably prioritising options outside of Sydney, but if they can't get enough clubs Blacktown City might be an option. I think the reason they weren't invited to submit an RFP was because their EOI was incomplete, So they probably don't qualify for this phase "Football Australia is extending an invitation to clubs, which previously submitted an NST Expression of Interest (EOI) in 2023, to engage in the Request for Proposal (RFP) phase. This initiative is integral to the NST's inception, with the league set to kick off its inaugural season in March/April 2025."Open to any club who had submitted an EOI.
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+x+x+xInteresting to see if Blacktown City have another crack. We can assume FA will be probably prioritising options outside of Sydney, but if they can't get enough clubs Blacktown City might be an option. I think the reason they weren't invited to submit an RFP was because their EOI was incomplete, So they probably don't qualify for this phase "Football Australia is extending an invitation to clubs, which previously submitted an NST Expression of Interest (EOI) in 2023, to engage in the Request for Proposal (RFP) phase. This initiative is integral to the NST's inception, with the league set to kick off its inaugural season in March/April 2025."Open to any club who had submitted an EOI. "we invite 24 clubs to engage in the Request for Proposal phase and potentially join the eight foundation clubs announced last year." 32 invitations to RFP - 8 successful so far = 24  So I reckon, no-one not on this list Edit, So maybe Blacktown but No St George No Strikers
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+x+x+xInteresting to see if Blacktown City have another crack. We can assume FA will be probably prioritising options outside of Sydney, but if they can't get enough clubs Blacktown City might be an option. I think the reason they weren't invited to submit an RFP was because their EOI was incomplete, So they probably don't qualify for this phase "Football Australia is extending an invitation to clubs, which previously submitted an NST Expression of Interest (EOI) in 2023, to engage in the Request for Proposal (RFP) phase. This initiative is integral to the NST's inception, with the league set to kick off its inaugural season in March/April 2025."Open to any club who had submitted an EOI. Cutting it pretty fine but 8-9 months is surely enough time (with one transfer window) for clubs selected to build a squad and get ready.... Refreshing from JJ and FA that they keep us up to dater with whats happening at least...... Initial 8 clubs have been busy little beavers this Jan with signings......
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+x+x+x+xInteresting to see if Blacktown City have another crack. We can assume FA will be probably prioritising options outside of Sydney, but if they can't get enough clubs Blacktown City might be an option. I think the reason they weren't invited to submit an RFP was because their EOI was incomplete, So they probably don't qualify for this phase "Football Australia is extending an invitation to clubs, which previously submitted an NST Expression of Interest (EOI) in 2023, to engage in the Request for Proposal (RFP) phase. This initiative is integral to the NST's inception, with the league set to kick off its inaugural season in March/April 2025."Open to any club who had submitted an EOI. "we invite 24 clubs to engage in the Request for Proposal phase and potentially join the eight foundation clubs announced last year." 32 invitations to RFP - 8 successful so far = 24 So I reckon, no-one not on this list No Blacktown No St George No Strikers Strikers where part of the United bid so I think they would still get a look in ???? Hoping fort: 1 Brisbane, 1 x Adelaide, 1 x Canberra/Tassie and Melbourne Knights. Anything else will be gravy.
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+x+x+x+x+xSo there's 12 clubs already rusted on as initiates into the NSD and a minimum of 8 exploring the possibility of joining. Surely that says more about the health of Football in Australia than what may or may not be happening with the 14th franchise in the APL. no, 8 & 8 Loving the interest but sort of disappointed that no SA or WA clubs have put there hand up as yet... ACT I sort of understand as it sounds like they are going hell for leather to get into the Aleague.... but we desperately NEED a SA club at least in the first season in my opinion, then let the cards fall where they may. The word from the early days of discussions was that three SA clubs could afford NST, and one was to be included in a 12 team comp. Then it became SA might not be included initially but will be added for the second season. I don't know what changed, whether state disorganisation, club realities, maybe FA being more conservative to start with, who knows? Maybe SA will put their hand up for it early next year, but it's all very quiet. Im hearing that MetroStars are really pushing to be "the one": from SA but dont know much about them to be honest... I dont think we will hear much about anything this year but hope by mid/late Jan when clubland is starting to wake up from its off season a few announcements will be made.... Metro Stars- probably the best organised club in SA. Better than Adelaide City in that respect.
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+x+x+x+x+x+xSo there's 12 clubs already rusted on as initiates into the NSD and a minimum of 8 exploring the possibility of joining. Surely that says more about the health of Football in Australia than what may or may not be happening with the 14th franchise in the APL. no, 8 & 8 Loving the interest but sort of disappointed that no SA or WA clubs have put there hand up as yet... ACT I sort of understand as it sounds like they are going hell for leather to get into the Aleague.... but we desperately NEED a SA club at least in the first season in my opinion, then let the cards fall where they may. The word from the early days of discussions was that three SA clubs could afford NST, and one was to be included in a 12 team comp. Then it became SA might not be included initially but will be added for the second season. I don't know what changed, whether state disorganisation, club realities, maybe FA being more conservative to start with, who knows? Maybe SA will put their hand up for it early next year, but it's all very quiet. Im hearing that MetroStars are really pushing to be "the one": from SA but dont know much about them to be honest... I dont think we will hear much about anything this year but hope by mid/late Jan when clubland is starting to wake up from its off season a few announcements will be made.... Metro Stars- probably the best organised club in SA. Better than Adelaide City in that respect. Id be happy with both :)
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