POLL - 2025 Expansion race NST vs APL


POLL - 2025 Expansion race NST vs APL

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POLL - 2025 Expansion race NST vs APL

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someguyjc - 18 Jun 2024 4:09 PM
numklpkgulftumch - 18 Jun 2024 3:37 PM

Really dumb decision to go down that path. If it's branded as a club for the whole state, it would mean games would need to be played in (at least) both Hobart and Launceston.  It's a good 2.5hr drive between the two. Similar to drive time between Sydney and Newcastle. Distance is actually further away, but there is literally nothing in between, so average km/h is higher. People took the piss when Western United declared they were representing everything from Tarneit to Ballarat. That's half the distance of this. Also, Hobart and Launceston aren't exactly what you'd call friends. They don't even drink the same beer.
IMO, Hobart in the Championship would be the smart move. Too much financial losses in the A-League. If they had mega rich owners that were happy dumping in money then fine, but it doesn't seem like that is the case.

in bold, if they get conned going APL good luck to the them they'll need it in container loads$$$$$$$$$


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numklpkgulftumch - 18 Jun 2024 3:37 PM
FA turned them down initially for insufficient funding

So needed to become a "Tasmanian team' to get political and financial support

Within Tasmania though, differing opinions as to whether to go NST or aim for A-league is dividing political support

Reckons sponsors will be there if they get State Government come to the party

Really dumb decision to go down that path. If it's branded as a club for the whole state, it would mean games would need to be played in (at least) both Hobart and Launceston.  It's a good 2.5hr drive between the two. Similar to drive time between Sydney and Newcastle. Distance is actually further away, but there is literally nothing in between, so average km/h is higher. People took the piss when Western United declared they were representing everything from Tarneit to Ballarat. That's half the distance of this. Also, Hobart and Launceston aren't exactly what you'd call friends. They don't even drink the same beer.
IMO, Hobart in the Championship would be the smart move. Too much financial losses in the A-League. If they had mega rich owners that were happy dumping in money then fine, but it doesn't seem like that is the case.
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https://x.com/SENTassie/status/1802482324984271195



FA turned them down initially for insufficient funding

So needed to become a "Tasmanian team' to get political and financial support

Within Tasmania though, differing opinions as to whether to go NST or aim for A-league is dividing political support

Reckons sponsors will be there if they get State Government come to the party
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Munrubenmuz - 14 Jun 2024 12:21 PM
numklpkgulftumch - 14 Jun 2024 10:10 AM

Thanks for posting this article.

Here's a cool little titbit from there.

The cost of playing football in Australia -- especially as one approaches the elite pathways -- is constantly raised as an issue in Australian football but, for the most part, there hasn't been much in the way of improvement.

Admittedly, as Football Australia CEO James Johnson himself has anecdotally shared, there are plenty of cheap community avenues to playing football. Pointing to AusPlay data, the federation told to ESPN that the annual expenditure for football participants across the nation was $382 -- less than swimming ($416), tennis ($454), and gymnastics ($929) but more than netball ($270), cricket ($258), and Australian Rules ($209) -- and that, thanks to a longer season, average cost per session to play came in at $5, a dollar cheaper than cricket, the same price as netball, and one dollar more than AFL.



You slipped past this part though eh :)

Football Australia argues that elite services come at a cost. The fees associated with elite pathways are expected to cover not just training sessions and games but also "a club technical director, accredited coaches, strength and conditioning, medical staff, all training uniforms, match uniforms, tracksuits, kit bags, [and more]," for a season that can last around 44 weeks -- which also brings into focus the costs of facilities.

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numklpkgulftumch - 14 Jun 2024 10:10 AM
Football Australia confirmed in January that it was in a Request for Proposal phase to fill those final spots and ESPN understands that process will wrap-up in July with news to come after the Olympics


https://www.espn.com.au/football/story/_/id/40318522/the-10-major-matildas-socceroos-questions-football-australia-answer

Thanks for posting this article.

Here's a cool little titbit from there.

The cost of playing football in Australia -- especially as one approaches the elite pathways -- is constantly raised as an issue in Australian football but, for the most part, there hasn't been much in the way of improvement.

Admittedly, as Football Australia CEO James Johnson himself has anecdotally shared, there are plenty of cheap community avenues to playing football. Pointing to AusPlay data, the federation told to ESPN that the annual expenditure for football participants across the nation was $382 -- less than swimming ($416), tennis ($454), and gymnastics ($929) but more than netball ($270), cricket ($258), and Australian Rules ($209) -- and that, thanks to a longer season, average cost per session to play came in at $5, a dollar cheaper than cricket, the same price as netball, and one dollar more than AFL.





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numklpkgulftumch - 14 Jun 2024 9:46 AM

https://www.canberratimes.com.au/story/8660070/canberra-a-league-delay-michael-caggianos-bids-new-timeframe/?cs=15354

Paywalled, but apparently they're going to pay $20 million ?

and the APL turned it down ?

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What's their end game. They want 4 new teams to bring in $100 million right?

Then what? There's 16 teams and no new licenses to flog. The MLS is up to 38 teams or something and who knows how many more they'll sell but clearly in Australia you'd think 16 teams or thereabouts is the ceiling.


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lol ... gold medal comment right here :)
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Football Australia confirmed in January that it was in a Request for Proposal phase to fill those final spots and ESPN understands that process will wrap-up in July with news to come after the Olympics


https://www.espn.com.au/football/story/_/id/40318522/the-10-major-matildas-socceroos-questions-football-australia-answer

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https://www.canberratimes.com.au/story/8660070/canberra-a-league-delay-michael-caggianos-bids-new-timeframe/?cs=15354

Paywalled, but apparently they're going to pay $20 million ?

and the APL turned it down ?

Dis gonna be gud gif





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https://www.theguardian.com/football/article/2024/jun/13/a-league-expansion-delayed-canberra-united-ruled-out#:~:text=A%2DLeague%20Men-,A%2DLeague%20expansion%20delayed%20as%20Canberra%20ruled,of%20men's%202024%2D25%20season&text=Canberra's%20hopes%20of%20fielding%20an,for%20season%202024%2D25%E2%80%9D.

Canberra out. Oh sorry, delayed.

Looks like NST has managed to do at least a half-Bradbury to get gold. Just need the NZ Knights to do something NZ-ish and stumble over 
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It seems to me that Cavallucci is the one playing ‘ cloak and dagger’ with this, after all he holds all the aces.
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hence my comment something in the water.
Their Fed played hardball aganst any of their Clubs, the Clubs stand by confidentiality, therefore there is no win to anything but stand offs.
Why I said its a cop out, someone or a Club needs to stand up once and for all and have balls OR the FA need to muscle in more than they'd like but I suspect even JJ has his barriers re the Feds having to work with them.



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libelous - 5 Jun 2024 2:02 PM
numklpkgulftumch - 5 Jun 2024 1:11 PM

Would it be better for all concerned if these ‘ unannounced issues’ were laid out rather than have speculation running around?
This sort of thing does no one any favours.

Ask Sunshine Coast

FQ CEO Cavallucci said

"Individuals are using a flawed understanding of two non related maters......."

"........as the governing body we would never disclose or publicly discuss any matter pertaining to any club.
Every club expects us to maintain parameters of confidentiality in exercising our obligations, we will continue to do so in this case."



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numklpkgulftumch - 5 Jun 2024 1:11 PM
libelous - 5 Jun 2024 12:30 PM

Incorrect

They were already 'not-invited' by FQ for 2024 due to other unannounced issues.

They seem to have been re-invited since but have not taken up the offer and are doing their own thing

Would it be better for all concerned if these ‘ unannounced issues’ were laid out rather than have speculation running around?
This sort of thing does no one any favours.
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LFC. - 5 Jun 2024 10:39 AM

You can’t really blame them, IIRC they were in danger of being de- registered by Football Queensland if they went ahead with their plans to play in the NSD.

Incorrect

They were already 'not-invited' by FQ for 2024 due to other unannounced issues.

They seem to have been re-invited since but have not taken up the offer and are doing their own thing
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LFC. - 5 Jun 2024 10:39 AM
what a cop out by SCFC.
Got to be something in the water in Qld.

You can’t really blame them, IIRC they were in danger of being de- registered by Football Queensland if they went ahead with their plans to play in the NSD.
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what a cop out by SCFC.
Got to be something in the water in Qld.


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Totti10 - 22 May 2024 1:05 PM
Had a real Old school football feel to it. Can’t wait for next year now hopefully we get some good crowds in Sydney.

Only thing missing were the mounted riot police.... apart from that it was a 90s flashback :) Bloody unreal.

You'll get crowds coming back mate, I spoke to a bunch of youngsters who came for the curiosity (all Aleague fans) and they said they had no idea it would be this good... theyll be back next year.  
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Had a real Old school football feel to it. Can’t wait for next year now hopefully we get some good crowds in Sydney.
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Great advert for the NSD last night, both teams put on a great spectacle.
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Totti10 - 22 May 2024 9:43 AM
Great game last night had abit of everything. Welldone on south getting through to the next round and Welldone Preston on hosting such a huge occasion.

great advert for next year’s championship 

another poster quoted 6.5k attended.


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numklpkgulftumch - 9 May 2024 11:39 AM
numklpkgulftumch - 7 May 2024 12:29 PM

I was half-joking, but the rumour mill has it may be an issue

I had heard that too - but that was before the latest announcement.
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Great game last night had abit of everything. Welldone on south getting through to the next round and Welldone Preston on hosting such a huge occasion.

great advert for next year’s championship 
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Monoethnic Social Club - 9 May 2024 1:08 PM
numklpkgulftumch - 9 May 2024 11:39 AM

Well if your going to buy a business you would want to know what your projected revenue is first ... 

Ditto Canberra

Unless they've given those 2 bidders a set figure, whilst they work out what the others will get. (ie $0 )
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numklpkgulftumch - 9 May 2024 11:39 AM
numklpkgulftumch - 7 May 2024 12:29 PM

I was half-joking, but the rumour mill has it may be an issue

Well if your going to buy a business you would want to know what your projected revenue is first ... 
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numklpkgulftumch - 7 May 2024 12:29 PM
numklpkgulftumch - 29 Apr 2024 10:44 AM

Wonder if they were told about next seasons central funding before ?



https://www.newcastleherald.com.au/story/8619834/?

I was half-joking, but the rumour mill has it may be an issue
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As soon as the season's finished I cancel my subscription so it only works out about $5 a month pro-rata'd. People need to stop moaning and just pay it. Christ a schooner is $10 now.

At least a schooner I can enjoy from start to finish even at 15/20bucks but not something that delivers like 0 alcohol and leaves you wondering why bother :) 



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LFC. - 7 May 2024 2:22 PM
on a side note being the thread is of expansion blahblah.....
Obviously things are hotting up APL wise - I noticed that article was from Code Sports.

I had interest in hearing the Adam Peacock series SAVING FOOTBALL but ffs you got to subscribe for that as well.
$10 a/m, is this worth it by any users ?
What a piss off, anything you want to listen to cost you ffs.

Code sports articles are pretty decent mate but dont know if its worth $10 a month.... Peacock has good intentions and tries to be hard hitting but nothing really groundbreaking.... 
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LFC. - 7 May 2024 2:22 PM

To be fair, people need to get paid. Advertising revenue isn't what it used to be.
That being said, they always ask too much. I reckon it would be way easier to get 10 people to pay $1 per month than it is to get 1 person to pay $10 per month. 

As soon as the season's finished I cancel my subscription so it only works out about $5 a month pro-rata'd. People need to stop moaning and just pay it. Christ a schooner is $10 now.


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