Less than 350 people attend Western United vs Wellington in Ballarat making it the lowest crowd in...


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Lowest Crowd in A-League History

Aus Stadiums reported 2043 people. The actual numbers is less than 350 people.

https://www.austadiums.com/sport/comp/a-league/crowds

The actual crowd as you will (I counted them), was less than 350 from all the images I could gather. The main stand is in view at half time, according to stadium planning this would need to have 1 person in every second seat for the crowd numbers to actually be 2043 people, instead they are absolutely dead empty. Every single stand was seen on camera, and there is no way, they had anywhere near those numbers.

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https://imgur.com/TN9dMqn
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I actually counted significantly less than 350, but added 50 on at the end after being extremely generous during the count, to account for people going to the bathroom, going to get food, people in booths etc. The number I hit was actually around 270, that's 270 whilst always assuming any black dots were people, which could be bags, or something else entirely. It's possible the crowd was around 250 if everyone was watching the game and not buying food and getting a drink and some of the stuff I counted, wasn't actually people during my snap shots. Absolutely abysmal.

The question needs to be raised as to why Aus Stadiums would misinform about crowd figures, or who is reporting them to Aus Stadiums. There is no way, there is 1700 people missing in these images. It's absolutely mental they think people would believe that.





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If they're not careful they'll be at some Saudi clubs level soon 
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tsf - 5 Dec 2023 12:19 PM
If they're not careful they'll be at some Saudi clubs level soon 

Maybe even as low as some NPL clubs..... hahahahahahaahah
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tsf - 5 Dec 2023 12:19 PM
If they're not careful they'll be at some Saudi clubs level soon 

Saudis league got a lot more crowd than A league. Average attendance is one of the highest in Asia. You can check the list. You mean compare to K- league? Korea League yes very low attendance.
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Crowds were awful this week, average will be just above 5k even with the made up figures. 
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I think living costs are having a huge impact on crowds.
Also how boring is the majority of a league games.
Go to your average a league game and it feels so un important.
If you have 3 kids like me it costs at least $200 to attend a game with parking, tickets and food/drink. 
Add the cost of living and attending the game with the experience you get, its just not worth the money
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vincenzogold - 5 Dec 2023 2:48 PM
I think living costs are having a huge impact on crowds.
Also how boring is the majority of a league games.
Go to your average a league game and it feels so un important.
If you have 3 kids like me it costs at least $200 to attend a game with parking, tickets and food/drink. 
Add the cost of living and attending the game with the experience you get, its just not worth the money

Here's another one coming up with extraneous excuses. Of course, no other country in the world is struggling with cost of living issues. Have you been watching any o/s football?
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There is no one on this forum who can deny that, week in week out,  there's only only one or two teams per round that can put together more than half a game of quality football.That is the reason for the lack of crowds. I think most of you on here look at the highlights and assume that's what it was like for the whole game. Punters on the outside can see there's been no improvement in the simple aspects of ( what should be expected) at this "supposed" elite level.
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AnthonyC - 5 Dec 2023 3:58 PM
There is no one on this forum who can deny that, week in week out,  there's only only one or two teams per round that can put together more than half a game of quality football.That is the reason for the lack of crowds. I think most of you on here look at the highlights and assume that's what it was like for the whole game. Punters on the outside can see there's been no improvement in the simple aspects of ( what should be expected) at this "supposed" elite level.

Got any solutions Anthony?
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I don't find the games boring at all not sure where that is coming from. Most of the games are exciting especially watching the young players.

What's boring is the presentation there's no characters no narrative the games just happen and that's it. Clubs haven't made any effort to connect with communities.
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Melbcityguy - 5 Dec 2023 5:37 PM
I don't find the games boring at all not sure where that is coming from. Most of the games are exciting especially watching the young players.

What's boring is the presentation there's no characters no narrative the games just happen and that's it. Clubs haven't made any effort to connect with communities.

Oh just to be more specific Paramount is boring only Teo is worth listening to the others are dull. No midweek show and they took away A league access nobody cares about the players so there's no reason to follow the teams.

Even me I'm a hardcore fan but why do I care about young UGA nabbout etc they all played for other teams they aren't players I can be proud to represent my club because they played for the rivals.



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mark_000au - 5 Dec 2023 1:46 PM
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Saudis league got a lot more crowd than A league. Average attendance is one of the highest in Asia. You can check the list. You mean compare to K- league? Korea League yes very low attendance.

Yeah two teams get all the crowds. The rest nobody. They had 133 at a game the other week 
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The AL, when it was averaging 12k to its games, wanted its fans to fuck off so it could get better ones.

Here they are.

Nothing else to it.
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I also do not find the games boring or of a low standard for the most part.

The top 6 at the moment all play entertaining football with Macarthur playing better football than they have been previously in my opinion. Still a bit defensive for my liking but with more entertaining attacking play. Quality football all the same with teams like the Roar putting a good half of quality football up, dropping away, then coming back again in the last 20 or so minutes. Nature of high intensity football really.

Melbourne City and Mariners I always find entertaining. They are both battling the loss of players as they regain cohesion, but I think you are mad if you consider their play boring or lacking skill.

Newcastle has some great players but lacks cohesion across the group - so you see some quite brilliant individual bits one after another without yet hitting their best as a team.

Glory also can struggle to tie it all together but show plenty of quality throughout the whole of games.

Nobody cares about SFC so they can play great football and still be horrible to watch ;).

And bringing up the rear is Western United, who also can play great football but just don't seem to bring it all out at the same time.

There are few games that I call boring each week and would happily watch most with interest. I do watch as many as I can and the quality and entertainment is there if you like watching skilful play, close games, and football. There is plenty of quality on show for most of the games - but you rarely get 90+ minutes of true quality in any games anywhere - that is the nature of ebb and flow sport.

I think there are at least a few people on the forum who can deny that there are only one or two teams that can put together more than half a game of quality football.

Perhaps what you are thinking is that the quality is so bad because every week only half of the teams manage to win at best...?

When I wear their colours, I am the club.

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Far from boring at Allianz.

At no point, so far this season ,have i thought about not going, despite Sydney being shite this season.

Some of my best times have been when Sydney were utter rank under Vitislav.
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bohemia - 5 Dec 2023 7:01 PM
The AL, when it was averaging 12k to its games, wanted its fans to fuck off so it could get better ones.

Here they are.

Nothing else to it.

lol this 

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tsf - 5 Dec 2023 6:34 PM
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Yeah two teams get all the crowds. The rest nobody. They had 133 at a game the other week 

Not 2 teams. The top 5-6 teams.  What about A league..how many teams?  If you think Saudi Pro league got pathetic crowd what would you call Qatar, UAE, A league & K league?

J league/Saudi Pro league/Indian Premier league/Chinese super league/ Indonesia league/Iranian League

Other than these above leagues the rest of asia the crowd has been pathetic.

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For me I did paid monthly for Paramount to watch the A League so I have contributed in some ways.

To me
Problems are

1. The quality of the players are quite low>>e.g  some guys got terrible first touch that makes you  wonder how can they are a pro. Not talking about the other qualities yet.  First thing you can tell about the players by the first touch.  This is like a good chef before they can cook they have to learn how to use a knife. That's why kids in japan age 12-14 would train nothing else just pass & move with good first touch. They want everyone to have this basic before growing up.

2. Low crowd,  this is the most annoying part for me cuz the quality could be bad but if a good atmosphere you can still enjoy the game. Most games are lacking atmosphere.  I remembered 8-10 years ago A league doing very good with the crowd.  The clubs are obviously losing the new gen fans.  If a successful world cup in Qatar couldn't help to boost the attendance nothing will. Most people just don't care or give a damn anymore.

3. The pitch>> sharing with rugby and concerts. Years after years same shit same problem.  This is ruining the game.  I feel jealous of the European leagues with good quality pitch.



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God help this manual crowd count people if they watched games in Portugal. You'd be trying to count ears & noses to bump up the crowd numbers at Arouca vs Estoril 
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AnthonyC - 5 Dec 2023 3:58 PM
There is no one on this forum who can deny that, week in week out,  there's only only one or two teams per round that can put together more than half a game of quality football.That is the reason for the lack of crowds. I think most of you on here look at the highlights and assume that's what it was like for the whole game. Punters on the outside can see there's been no improvement in the simple aspects of ( what should be expected) at this "supposed" elite level.

The game was Western United in Ballarat. That's why the crowd was small. A team no one follows or cares about in a regional town that doesn't support the code. It's more embarassing than the cow bells and attempted atmosphere at a Macarthur game. If pro-rel comes in the stronger teams will replace them and the competition will be better for it imo. 
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Nunya - 5 Dec 2023 11:32 AM
Lowest Crowd in A-League History

Aus Stadiums reported 2043 people. The actual numbers is less than 350 people.






It really pisses me off when Tas have been refused an A L team.
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mark_000au - 5 Dec 2023 9:14 PM
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Not 2 teams. The top 5-6 teams.  What about A league..how many teams?  If you think Saudi Pro league got pathetic crowd what would you call Qatar, UAE, A league & K league?

J league/Saudi Pro league/Indian Premier league/Chinese super league/ Indonesia league/Iranian League

Other than these above leagues the rest of asia the crowd has been pathetic.

Read what I originally wrote. 

I cbf getting into a pointless debate with someone who can’t even read 

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vincenzogold - 5 Dec 2023 2:48 PM
Also how boring is the majority of a league games.

It pains me to say this, but I think the standard has dropped significantly this season. There is no money and everyone is playing younger squads. That has to have some impact on crowds. 
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2 shit teams. When they last played an A league game up my way (far north coast NSW) they had 4000 turn up.


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How did this bid hoodwink the dandy/casey (or even south melb) ?

Cut the loses and boot them.
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Munrubenmuz - 6 Dec 2023 8:49 AM
2 shit teams. When they last played an A league game up my way (far north coast NSW) they had 4000 turn up.

Including the shit team who are top of the league, huh :D

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SUTHERLANDBEAR - 5 Dec 2023 7:56 PM
Far from boring at Allianz.

At no point, so far this season ,have i thought about not going, despite Sydney being shite this season.

Some of my best times have been when Sydney were utter rank under Vitislav.

Gotta agree with Sutho here... Playing beautiful football is great but watching your club battle through a garbage spell of form can be just as rewarding....
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tsf - 6 Dec 2023 11:14 AM
How did this bid hoodwink the dandy/casey (or even south melb) ?

Cut the loses and boot them.

Have some patience mate, they are about to unveil their brand new mega stadium..... Give them a chance to grow into their, hungry for football, catchment area....
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Feed_The_Brox - 6 Dec 2023 8:43 AM
vincenzogold - 5 Dec 2023 2:48 PM

It pains me to say this, but I think the standard has dropped significantly this season. There is no money and everyone is playing younger squads. That has to have some impact on crowds. 

When the only money to be made is in value-adding to the squad, that's the way it's gonna be by the looks

'Marquees' haven't paid for themselves
Gimmicks haven't increased crowds
Without Pro/Rel there's little more to play for than a slice of the M1 on a plinth
TV can't find reason to pay for something few are watching

and you can play as many "For Sale" teenagers as you like, you can't get relegated
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Munrubenmuz - 6 Dec 2023 8:49 AM

Including the shit team who are top of the league, huh :D

Shit teams as in no one cares about them, not where they are on the table.

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