Nonsense, WU are just garbage to watch, boring players, boring squad, boring coach and a bad place to watch football against a team from another country. 250 people is what they have been pulling all season and will probably continue to pull at Tarneit.

haha this is amazing - how is Hoffman still in the league? Honestly thought he retired like 5 years ago. 

I just saw Corey Brown was back in the league the other week - just makes no sense. 

Jack Clisby, Jack Hingert, Jacob Tratt, Steven Lustica etc

Might be denied but it happened. 
It was a good deal for both parties. Financially great for WUFC, and a new income stream for MKFC. 
Its a real shame it didnt occur. 

https://www.melbourneknights.com.au/news/a-response-to-claims-regarding-knights-stadium/

Either they are lying or they are not.... I would trust them a thousand times over the "club" that promised a shovel ready stadium 5 years ago....

Corey Brown is under contract to the Roar and we are desperate for a left fullback due to injuries to every other experienced left fullback. Of course he is going to get a run (until injured) and if he was anywhere near as good as he was last time he played he would deserve his place.

Jack Hingert is still our best right fullback - you write him off because of age maybe, but he is a quality player still. We play well with him on the right and we play less without him.

Clisby I thought got a decent amount of praise just a couple of weeks ago for his quality of deadball delivery (maybe I misremember because I don't like him at all).

If they play well they deserve a place. If they play like Hoffman they are a joke - except where they lift the players around them to perform far greater than they do without. Maybe Hoffman is one of those - although I personally don't like him or rate him.

To me, your list of ridicule was not a good one. But I agree with your point on principle anyway.

agree and thats the main problem here not having you know what let alone a NST finally starting up.
Yer Clisby got raps by some for he made some good cross's from the flank couple of weeks ago.
Well bugger me every single back should have that down packed right when your at pro levels.
He was ordinary at CMM many times yet same clubs take him on, PG twice And WSW twice.
As mentioned how many potential seasoned or up comers could they pluck from NPL that could promise so much but the donkey clubs keep recycling sub standard known players.
Frustrating.

RIMB I find such polar opposites regards to AL standards from your pov to others.
Its amazing how different we all see it.
Ill give it to you - I watched 60mins of your WSW game, I was impressed by your 1st half display, some fair one touch and support for the ball.
Trouble is most of these teams standards really fall away in 2nd halfs.
I don't get why pro's drop off the planet so much and can't sustain most of 90mins but for losing rhythem in possesion that happens in most leagues.
Ok some games are in heat - well thats another issue right, when its played.
Its ludricous this outpost.

A lot comes down to what we look for during a game.

I look for the moments of beautiful play, the individual touches that hide the effort it has taken to get there, the combinations and one touch passing to get through the opposition, the visioned defenders who close danger down before it happens, the skilful and gutsy challenges that get the ball.

When I see them happening all throughout games by both teams I know that I am seeing more of the good stuff this season than I usually see across most teams.

A lot of teams that have a great first half are dropping away in the second half this season and I put some of that on it being early in the season (they should be hitting their straps from Round 6 by my personal expectations though) and the intensity of the play both attacking and defending. I do not expect to see 90 minutes of full on brilliance and I do not need to see that - as long as the quality from both individuals and teams keeps showing up consistently through the 90 I am seeing good football.

My good luck that I find all those moments in a game worth watching for and seeing.

Following the logic of the press release: my loungeroom has never had a feasibility study done on hosting AL matches, nobody has ever asked for one, therefore it's able to host AL matches.

The games I’ve watched this season have been pretty decent quality apart from the finishing. The two factors for me that have killed the A-league have both been raised above:
1. The league drove away its core fan base by trying to appeal to non-football fans. So now you have zero atmosphere at games.
2. There are no characters. There’s not an opposition player I’d go to see, there’s no players to hate. 

Sounds like your loungeroom is bigger than the Whyndham training facility :P

Makes sense, because it exists

I'd ad the caveat that the keepers have been very very good so far this season. Especially some of the younger blokes like Gauci, Paulsen and Cook. Paulsen has only conceded 7, has a save rate of 78% and has stopped 2/3 pens, and he's only 21 years old. Shame he's a Kiwi otherwise he'd be a future Socceroo for sure.
That being said, 21 goals were scored over the weekend, so finishing can't be that bad.

Thats a pretty sad situation mate... Not being facetious but I sympathise...  I have watched fragments of A league over this season and the last and I have to say the level isnt that bad... Not bad enough to make it unwatchable.... In fact, on the pitch, it is comparable (in my humble opinion) to many so called "decent" leagues in both Europe and South America.... 

I think your first point is the crux of the matter and leads to creating outcomes for the second point... Club football, the world over, is driven by the passion of fans for their club above EVERYTHING else...  If you ask the average (I don't know lets use Borussia as an example) fan what his primary engagement with football is it is:
1) Borussia Dortmund BVB
2) The mates he/she stands on the terraces singing and drinking with every weekend
3) Their favourite player(s)
4) The German National team
5) The Bundeslig and Football in general ...... both a very lowly last on the list.

Football and the league in general are a "vessel" for the existence of the one true love .... the club. 

This so much.

There used to be so much passion in the fixtures.
I used to hate Victory with Muscat, kemp, thompson, allsop especially. 
I don't hate anyone anymore.
Maybe because my mindset has changed as well with wanting to see young talent do well no matter who they play for

But also everything you said is spot on

I find active overrated I think they used to be better back in the day but these days everyone is shit f everyone I mean it doesn't take many brain cells to chant that 

In those lengthy periods of silence from our reluctant Brisbane fans, I am overjoyed to hear the Den still encouraging the team and letting them know we are there with them.

The volume is less compared to the halcyon days of a packed Den, but the passion, enthusiasm and sense of belonging they bring far outweighs any lack of wit in their chanting.

The Den is totally appreciated by me.

But do the den chant about the players/team? If they do then that's great 👍

If they chant about how the other team is shit or needs to fuck off then 👎

A lot of active this season does the latter 

A bit of both but when I can understand the words they mostly sing for the Roar rather than bagging the opposition - as long as they make noise in our colours I think they improve the atmosphere and help lift the team.

"We've got the ball...we've got the ball...we've lost the ball...we've lost the ball" makes a difference, and "Brisbane clap clap clap" gets a lot of the silent fans involved without them feeling stupid for participating in public - even if they only do the claps.

Quantity over quality - and as the team plays better football and plays out of Suncorp more fans will come back, the Den will get bigger and onwards and upwards we go.

That said - I always loved "we hate you cause you're victorians" chanted to the Sydney teams.

Even on the reported (inflated heavily) figures, they are over 13% down year on year from last year.

That is massive alarm bells. 

id be making plans asap to get to winter. If they drop to 20% down year on year they are almost cooked.

Just hit reset on the whole thing. 

If we go to winter most teams will have to plan around the NRL which becomes hard. 

Harder maybe, but not impossible.
Remember that a winter comp actually provides a greater range of options for scheduling. In Summer, scheduling a game anytime when the sun is out can be a potential issue. Whereas in Winter there would be no issue scheduling a 2pm game for example.

Adelaide - no problem
Auckland - no problem
Brisbane - should be able to alternate with Broncos and relocate when clashing with RU 
Canberra - should be able to alternate with Raiders and relocate when clashing with RU
Central Coast - no problem
Macarthur - Mostly no problem 
Melbourne City - AAMI Park
Melbourne Victory - AAMI Park
Jets -  should be able to alternate with Knights
Glory - should be able to alternate with Western Force
Sydney FC - plenty of rectangular stadiums that could be used if Allianz unavailable
Phoenix Should be able to alternate with RU or relocate some games to smaller stadium
WSW - plenty of rectangular stadiums that could be used if Commbank unavailable
Western United - no problem - they have a shovel ready stadium

The Victorian teams are the only ones that really have a problem with Rugby Union and Rugby League to avoid at AAMI Park. Games earlier in the day before the NRL or RU games would be able to be scheduled

Never seen 2 codes play the same day.

Painting/Washing out Sponsors and Pitch markings, then redoing the next code can't be done that quickly.

Even so - it is only the City and Victory that have a real problem. WU are able to play at their training facility for next season. Maybe some deals could be done with a NSD teams for when clashes occur with RL or RU. With extra costs they may consider additional income streams. 

They could schedule MV and MC games on the same day though. One early arvo and the the other in the evening. Then there would be minimal changes to markings between games. A-League sponsor stuff would be all the same. Just a handful of club sponsor stuff would need changing. Alot of digital signage is used these days so really not as big of an issue as it would have been a decade or so ago.

Maybe Victory and City can ground share at Western's new stadium when its finally built.... juts like AAMI now but at least it will "privately owned" by a true football entity aligned with the APL and no need to share with Rugby league? It can be a Western 3 sided San Siro :P

No I dont think NST clubs will want to give up their grounds in the middle of a season, where will the women's team play, let alone the youth teams for both?

The NRL's planned expansion to 18 teams, which is apparently not far off, sees either Perth or PNG added in (they appear to be the top 2 in the running - maybe someone who actually knows something about NRL can fill us in).
I don't know how strong the Perth case is, but you could well see a 3rd club using the stadium soon.

Not true as has been pointed out.

Its actually a positive for City and Wellington. These clubs will have theirs hands forced to get new venues. Even Newcastle.

Victory and Storm have a good relationship. Admins are in the same building. 

Victory/Storm
Roar/Broncos
Jets/Knights
Canberra/Raiders

I'm not counting Glory and Force. Force may not exist in 18 months. 

City shouldn't be at AAMI anyway. Full Stop. 

This is very achieavble. 

You are aware that the Bill Foley franchise will be playing out of Mt Smart, i.e. the home of the Warriors? Right?