https://x.com/djmcbreen/status/1769162979759780188?s=20

Not good news for the A-League as well as the Jets.

In all fairness if Perth was sold for $1 why should anyone pay more for Newcastle?

Its very strange, personally I think its close to the best buy in the league... the Newcastle / Hunter is where Football first started in Australia, has always had equal media coverage to league often more.... when not sitting bottom of the table for years on end they get very decent crowds...

If you ever drive in the area its about 20 Football fields to one league,,,,

Massive history, with arguably Australia's best ever player coming from and still has a local business....

500k population.

Its a true Football heartland area.

correct Middy and since the Jets demise over the many years CCM have been picking up the fringes.
Its a huge heartland across to the Hunter.
I was a young taka see below :
"Newcastle KB United set many crowd records during their time in the NSL holding the record for the largest crowd to a domestic game in this country until the formation of the A-league. This record was 18,367 against Sydney Olympic in April 1979, a year when their average home crowd exceeded 10,000."

My regular journies up the coast I always drive by the many grounds and think man, the game could be so huge commercially - well it is Jnr levels but talking top flight.
It needs a NST Club :)

For me this also shines a light on why Auckland gets a spot. Put simply, no one is willing to put up the money for a club in Australia. One would think that an established club in a good area would be far more desirable than starting from scratch.

yer good point.
Like they say look after your own backyard.
Even Canbra or wherever, I get it IF there is a very good strong base to start from but wouldn't you think you'd do everything in your power in making the Jets far more viable to sell with the huge base it has.
Don't make sense, they can't even rummidge up a local large business conglomerate to buy their own club.

No evidence that Perth sold for $1

But assuming that was true, the current owners want all their investment back

They'd have to agree to lose that money plus also diluting their ownership of the league as well.

The problem is that the Jets have trashed the brand in Newcastle. Yes NBN is quite friendly to them - because it is a football heartland - but the locals are not as enamoured with the Jets after years of sub-standard results. CCM was the same a few years ago. 

The difference is that the Jets supporters have an alternate team in a national competition and while there is a latent football crowd waiting to be tapped there is also a larger sporting crowd that have a better option.

Don't get me wrong. They can be a very successful club - but it is not simply a matter of buying the club, it is changing the culture of the club over years and the perception of the club in the area.  

As a contrast previous incarnation of Auckland trashed the brand in Auckland - but the new club has nothing to do with that club. Iy is more akin with starting WSW in a similarly sized area.

everything is salvagble just like CCM, they were no where for yonks.
Just got to get the house in semi order and get some wins inspire hope.

Absolutely. But it is not an easy sell, especially where there is a contested sporting crowd. CCM's reconstruction started under Stajcic, continued under Montgomery and is now under Jackson - but Ben Cahn and Mopntgomery had done enormous work with the Academy before that. Stanton is a good manager, and they have a lot of good younger players. But what happens when they get the spoon this year. Still no buyer, Stanton will get the flick and the other ALM teams will pick up the good young players that don't go overseas. 

A good friend of our family used to drive the team bus. The club simply does not have the connection it had in earlier years. The work was done earlier - it needs to be done again.

There needs to be a new owner that recognises that any fix will be at least a 3 year project to make them competitive on a sustainable basis. It is easy to come in - splash some cash and build a good first team - harder to build a sustainable club that can compete each season.  It is not simply buying an existing club - it is buying a club that is struggling on the field and in the community. Football NNSW takes in an enormous catchment. As a regional club the club needs to be doing more than looking at the 500,000 population in and around Newcastle for their Academy and build the infrastructure of the club correctly to pull in the best players of Northern NSW. That all takes money and is not a quick fix.

no doubt its not a quick fix pj I understand that.
Always take time to rebuild the foundations that have eroded.
Look I'd sooner see a viable NST Club get in one day for I know it would really drag in the locals again bit by bit but not going to happen anytime soon.
Jets are in the good running getting the spoon as you can see, this is the prob with the closed system.
It rewards the also runs, if your getting relegated most good managed clubs look ahead with the ambition to hit back next season and vie for promotion.
In this current guise, it will just stay the same unless a sugar daddy does finally land but for how long ?
Will they be long term and patient to invest 3yrs at least.
Invest in their academy.
Invest promting to the lost locals.
Viscious circle.

The current owners, being key stakeholders in the APL, have no interest in getting the Jets into independent private ownership. Once Auckland came on board, they were not interested in diluting their share of the TV money nor their % interest in the APL. There will be no Canberra either. 

To all those who pushed and promoted the removal of the Lowy family for the current structure, well done. It is mind blowing the extent to which professionalism has fallen away (cue, Lederer entering the field to abuse an official and not being punished) and the extent to which the game's exposure is now non-existent. Save for the Mariners, no club can hold its held up and say they have done a good job in the past few years promoting the A-League. Yet, these same people somehow managed to gain control of it all and run it into the ground.


 

don't think the fans pushed lowys out, they hung themselves more than anything else, we whinged because it was a fricken mess.
They can run shopping malls and expose and abuse tennants and recycle but not football.
Their own model and governance killed their own goose buddy, karma came back and bite ol Frank - ghosts of the ol nsl hung over his selfish head and employing  legendary football types such as Oneil/Buckly/Gallop, to the mugs today, get real.
Whoever still stands behind these type of appointments deserve even more coming to them.

Football Clubs survive from ground up it seems,

Who was stupid and arrogant enough to think he could bring a men's world cup to Australia?
He started something that could have been good but ultimately left behind a mess for others to clean up.

You are both right, the catastrophe of "wasting" $50m bidding for the biggest sporting event in the world was simply so poor. Cue the article today as to the billions being spent / wasted in Brisbane for the Olympics. How dare we dream of hosting such an event. Lets spend $4 billion + instead on new oval stadiums in Brisbane and Hobart FFS.

Seriously, no administration will do everything that every fan wants to see, it is simply not possible. But surely we can all agree that (a) the Lowy era was by far the standout period in Australian domestic football in terms of its professionalism and (b) the current arrangement is a nightmare. 

I think sometimes we dream too much for a little country of just 27M Song.
Spending those $$$ in the hope ticketing and tourism recovers is asking alot in this day and age.
We should leave the big events to the other bigger more broke countries than us.
Agree our own FA and the game should be lobbying for new proper grounds, afterall a recent article I posted rego particiaption is increasing like mad, FNSW was saying just that, we're lacking facilties to cater for the growth and obviosu upgrades for womens changerooms etcetc....

We need to focus below - get the house in order, get more funding, build the foundations stronger, get us aligned.
This isn't gonna work at the top I'm afraid.

Been following Australian football since 1970. Very little has changed except I have some hope with Johson at FA.

9 Australian cookie cutter franchises locked away in quaratnie from the other clubs in the country, playing each other however many times the broadcaster decide they would pay for and getting thumped in continental cup competitions (yes yes I know the Wonderers went on a jammy run once) was your definition of "stand out period"???? 

The A League began with a wave of optimism, despite ignoring some of the key recommendations from the Crawford Report.
Lowy can have the kudos for getting things off to a good start. That's where it ends.
The World Cup bid however was both an attempt for a sugar hit to get "the families" into soccer and for him to grandstand and leave a selfish legacy to himself - all this at a time when they should have been concentrating on expanding the A League, and even considering a NST (which would never happen on his watch).
They did expand the A League - but of course the two new QLD sides did not last long because he took his eye off the ball with the WC nonsense - and when it all fell apart you could argue he oversaw one of the worst eras of Australian domestic football.

ditto mate but I have fears with so many barriers and hurdles JJ has a bigger mountain to climb than everest - what he also needs is background support from US supporters.
People should email their intent of support in bringing the game together as it should in this modern age after all this time.
The NST is a key directive to get off the ground for starters.
I agree RoyalDave, I'm glad he brought in professionlism the game needed but how he went about it and left the mainstream of football support and eco system to stay in quicksand to grovel stinks but for his own gain more than the game, it fell apart long before the APL takeover.
They the owners as typical businessmen thought to take control of their sinking ship, I'm actually glad its out of FA/JJ hands for all to see but so sorry for the bigger picture of the game for we're not going forwards let alone them.

If they let the Jets fold then ill be officially done with this league.

This town has alot of history when it comes to football since the KB United days and if they let the Jets fold then a key foundation for not only for the a-league but also part of the fabric of Australian football will fold too.

What is with bad administration running the sport here, and they want to expand the league with what? The professional game is at a complete mess and its sad to see.

With a full pyramid, they could drop down and re-group

instead, the fans get shat on and 'deleted'

Gotta agree LFC, it's just bad news after news with the APL.
I was at the Sydney Derby, it was electric, the atmosphere as good as anywhere in the world & then the issue with RBB fans & no action from the APL over the over reaction of the security & police force & now this, the demise of the Jets & I've been told there is a buyer but the APL not playing the game.
So sad for 50 years we keep shooting ourselves in the foot.

SPOT ON......

Barca, this is what don't make sense talking business, HTF can you romance new sucker license owners whilst you have cancers left right and centre in your current model.
I get the deflection route but the ethics need to be questioned and accountable.
So they are treating Jets supporters with disdain, the history, the region, what does it say for the game ahead there.
I really don't know how people are hapy to keep watching this whole shimozzle as a whole and think stuff the rest of the game we need the AL, do we ?

customers mate, NOT fans ..... Until the APL investors see that their stakeholders are fans of the sport first and foremost this will never change.... 

The whole shitshow was set up by Lowy this way mate... last franchsie to buy in finances the ones before it... when you run out of suckers the whole PONZI scheme comes crashing down....