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Not including Olyroos that are already also involved with the Socceroos like Circati, Robertson, Bos and Yazbek, but which of our current olyroos or players eligible for the Olyroos are ready for the full national side?
For mine..
Niewenhoff - guy is probably the 2nd or 3rd best hearts player atm according to their fan forum. Italiano - given our dearth of Rb's. Thought he played very well in u23 Asian Cup. Socceroos exposure might help him make the jump up in Germany to Bundi 1 or 2. Farrell - player that you can see has a very high ceiling. Socceroos exposure will help him get an overseas move. Mo Toure- OK missed the penalty but wasn't badly struck and thought he was great with his holdup play, passing, movement and dribbling. Looks a real threat. Volpato - not an olyroo but is eligible. Milanovic - thought he played very well, very direct, hard runner with decent delivery. Can go either left or right of his man and decent delivery.
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I'll add Nector Triantis also whose now been playing for Hibs and the great whiz kid Irakunda.
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Half these players aren’t ready. Hoff and Volpato are ready though
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With this net window essentially being dead rubbers it's a good opportunity to blood some players. I don't see it however as 2 wins and a South Korea slip up could see us jump them in the rankings. Just jump them I believe but don't quote me on that. The Palestine game is a good chance to practice against a low block. Utmost priority is getting Circati capped and locked.
If Arnold is going to continue with inverted fullbacks then someone like Baccus should be started at RB. They just hang in midfield anyway. Ironically I think it's someone who needs a big engine but they're in a fairly static role. Strain is easily the best right back. Atkinson still fares well and held his own against Peru and South Korea. Norway is in season. Do we want to drag Yazbek to Dhaka and Perth? Heaven forbid Stenseness gets called up again. Irankunda is already away. There's a mix of injured, exhausted ( O'Neill, McGree, Irvine, Burgess)
Milanovic is likely on the outer but I think, why not throw a few of these guy into the main squad? Hollman is a classy player on his day. I'd go further to add Segecic. It's a window where Arnold should dust of some cobwebs so I want starts for Yengi, Iredale, Circati, Bos, Silvera. Some are coming off massive seasons and haven't had a full summer or winter off due to tournaments the past few years. Bundesliga starts 23.8. Some teams have tours set up. We're permitted to name 26. I'd select:
Gauci, Thomas, Beach
Strain, Deng, Circati, Laws, Iredale, Bos, Farrell
Metcalfe, Nieuwenhof, Hrustic, Nisbet, Baccus, Devlin, Hollman, Segecic
Yengi, Iredale, Goodwin, Boyle, Mo Toure, Silvera, Mabil, Borrello
26 almost feels like too much. It won't happen and the susual suspects of Behich, Leckie, Duke will be picked.
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As u say the ones that have beem called up or attempted to be called up are the ones ready
Neiwenhof, yazbek, toure, volpato, bos and robertson
The others i think are a few years away. A lot of them are about the same or slightly better than rivals were at the same age but bwhind where they are now
Farrell might be an exception
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Some very good players named above, very exciting times ahead for the Socceroos!!!!
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+xWith this net window essentially being dead rubbers it's a good opportunity to blood some players. I don't see it however as 2 wins and a South Korea slip up could see us jump them in the rankings. Just jump them I believe but don't quote me on that. The Palestine game is a good chance to practice against a low block. Utmost priority is getting Circati capped and locked. If Arnold is going to continue with inverted fullbacks then someone like Baccus should be started at RB. They just hang in midfield anyway. Ironically I think it's someone who needs a big engine but they're in a fairly static role. Strain is easily the best right back. Atkinson still fares well and held his own against Peru and South Korea. Norway is in season. Do we want to drag Yazbek to Dhaka and Perth? Heaven forbid Stenseness gets called up again. Irankunda is already away. There's a mix of injured, exhausted ( O'Neill, McGree, Irvine, Burgess) Milanovic is likely on the outer but I think, why not throw a few of these guy into the main squad? Hollman is a classy player on his day. I'd go further to add Segecic. It's a window where Arnold should dust of some cobwebs so I want starts for Yengi, Iredale, Circati, Bos, Silvera. Some are coming off massive seasons and haven't had a full summer or winter off due to tournaments the past few years. Bundesliga starts 23.8. Some teams have tours set up. We're permitted to name 26. I'd select: Gauci, Thomas, Beach Strain, Deng, Circati, Laws, Iredale, Bos, Farrell Metcalfe, Nieuwenhof, Hrustic, Nisbet, Baccus, Devlin, Hollman, Segecic Yengi, Iredale, Goodwin, Boyle, Mo Toure, Silvera, Mabil, Borrello 26 almost feels like too much. It won't happen and the susual suspects of Behich, Leckie, Duke will be picked. Borello has had crap season. Arzani before him for me
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All of the Olyroos players including the ones that couldn't play in the u23s have got good potential, its up to them to work hard to have decent careers in the sport.
Even if they underperformed in that tournament I dont think it reflects on their individual ability, they still young and will mature into decent players over time and some of them also have interesting skill sets and profiles which we haven't had in the Socceroos set up for quite awhile which is quite encouraging.
From watching the play in the last 12 months they looked technically they look class now they just need moulding at club level.
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+xAll of the Olyroos players including the ones that couldn't play in the u23s have got good potential, its up to them to work hard to have decent careers in the sport. Even if they underperformed in that tournament I dont think it reflects on their individual ability, they still young and will mature into decent players over time and some of them also have interesting skill sets and profiles which we haven't had in the Socceroos set up for quite awhile which is quite encouraging. From watching the play in the last 12 months they looked technically they look class now they just need moulding at club level. Very well said, I agree, there is a lot of highly technical players, whether they succeed or not depends on their willingness to work hard.
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+xNot including Olyroos that are already also involved with the Socceroos like Circati, Robertson, Bos and Yazbek, but which of our current olyroos or players eligible for the Olyroos are ready for the full national side? For mine.. Niewenhoff - guy is probably the 2nd or 3rd best hearts player atm according to their fan forum. Italiano - given our dearth of Rb's. Thought he played very well in u23 Asian Cup. Socceroos exposure might help him make the jump up in Germany to Bundi 1 or 2. Farrell - player that you can see has a very high ceiling. Socceroos exposure will help him get an overseas move. Mo Toure- OK missed the penalty but wasn't badly struck and thought he was great with his holdup play, passing, movement and dribbling. Looks a real threat. Volpato - not an olyroo but is eligible. Milanovic - thought he played very well, very direct, hard runner with decent delivery. Can go either left or right of his man and decent delivery. Italiano - no. Technique not good enough for this new U23 generation of whizz technicians - more like an older Aus player of past generations. Great ball winner , plays well positionally but lacks the first touch and handling speed that most of his U 23 cohorts have. Good leader on the pitch. Atkinson still a fair bit in front. Talbot - slick technician, but needs to become a more dominant ball winner as a RB. He executed sone superb first touches hder pressure and is a good passer and mover. Nieuwenhof - being a Hearts better player, isn't significant internationally. However, in the one Olyroo game I saw him play, he should be in the senior Socceroos. Very accomplished on the ball and off the ball. Some of his pass and move sequences on the right flank with Brook, Trewin and Talbot were outstanding. He is also a good ball winner. Goes into a twin screening role with O'Neill for mine for the senior Socceroos immediately. Farrell - before the Olympic qualifiers I thought he was best outfield player int he entire U 23 squad - Euro players included. He must have been injured or fatigued in Qatar. He was very disappointing by his own lofty standards. Not sure now? Faz has been brilliant in the A L and in his previous hit out with the U 23s against Saudi. Like Niew on right flank, some of his pass and move sequences with Volodan, Natta and possibly Rodriguez, Milanovic and Garang K, were brilliant. Superb first touch statically and when he takes his touch away from his marker. Saw little of his explosive ball carrying in Qatar. Mo Toure- had a few shots against Jordan, 7 against Indo and 0 against Qatar. Strong and physical, but his shooting was a massive disappointment in Qatar, but was much better in lead up games. I like him more than Yengi, despite his poor shooting in Qatar. Wins a lot of hard balls against rugged CBs and causes turnoevers in attacking third. Has pace and power. Milanovic - really developing , but lost his shooting form In Qatar Olympic Cup qual comp. Defends well from the front. A weakness is when he dribbles and ball carries he doesn't keep his head up like Jake Hollman and Brook. Volpato - couldn' t care if he wants to play for Aus. I've seen so much talent coming through, we don't need him. Segevic, Voladan, Youlley and Jake Hollman, all have enormous talent at number ten. Jake Hollman - outstanding ball winner, keeps his head up when dribbling and ball carrying, has terrific acceleration, magnificent passer and mover in tight spaces, fast handling speed, and can play 6, 8 and 10. I think he is aged 22 and is a bit older than some of his teammates, but has more complete skill set than McGree and Metcalfe - albeit the latter being a better header and is physically stronger. Like Metcalfe, Jake H needs to score more goals. I'd be inclined to play him in the Socceroos now - like many of his U 23 teammates these guys have much quicker ball movement or ball circulation that most of the senior players don't. Also, defends better than Hrustic. Needs to build some upper body strength - overhead presses, lat pull downs and bench presses for mine in the gym. Lachlan Brook - I think he should be right wing for the seniors. Brooks is the most significant scorer from a wing, possibly apart from Goodwin. Shoots powerfully with both right and left foot outside the pen box. Terrific grafter in winning hard balls and tracking back. Excellent passer and mover in tight spaces. The complete winger. Take goo positions at back post. Better ball winner than Boyle, being physically stronger. Most players have a weaker foot, that good defenders identify. Brook is i accomplished on both sides of the body, he beats defenders cutting inside and outside. One issue he might lack speed over the turf. I have seen opposition players outpace him slightly wjhilst they have the ball at their feet, whilst he is running alongside them without the ball. When I have time I will appraise C- Perkins, Valadon, Youlley, Teague, Segecic, Villupillay. Some people reading this will be surprised any of us are enthusiastic about the U 23s, because of not qualifying for Olympics. If one has a look at the stats in Grazor's comprehensive U 23 thread, they absolutely dominated everywhere in all three games, except on the scoreboard. They had 60 shots at goal compared the combined of 18 for the opposition over the three games.
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The big weakness for the senior Socceroos is lack of speed of ball movement in midfield and attack.
The U 23s have this quality in spades.
Jake Hollman, Teague, Voladon, Jelecic, Youlley, Farrell, Talbot, C - Perkins, Natta, Segecic, Trewin, Brook, Milanovic, Villupillay, Garang Kuol, et al, have this quality when playing with each other.
Backed by an experienced and tough defence of Ryan, Souttar, Atkinson, Rowles and Behich/Bos, the u 23s playing in more attacking positions in the senior could inflict serious damage.
I would like to see this team in the not too distant future.
..........................................Ryan
Atkinson...........Souttar........Rowles/Circati........Bos
...................Nieuwenhof..................O'Neill ....................................Jake Hollman
Brook...................Yengi/Iredale................. Goodwin
Need to see more of Robertson.
Irvine should probably be in the midfield, because of his recent goalscoring output, but if we want slick attacking interplay and faster senior Socceroo ball movement in central midfield to break down deep defensive blocks, Nieuw, O'Neill and Jake Hollman are the players to do it , ably assisted by Brook at right wing.
Goodwin and Souttar have to be there - Souttar for aerial presence at both ends of the pitch. Goodwin for his ability to provide assists, and composure in front goal as a winger. Also, a team leader with great experience. Other players have said publicly Goodwin lifts the whole team when on the pitch.
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+x+xWith this net window essentially being dead rubbers it's a good opportunity to blood some players. I don't see it however as 2 wins and a South Korea slip up could see us jump them in the rankings. Just jump them I believe but don't quote me on that. The Palestine game is a good chance to practice against a low block. Utmost priority is getting Circati capped and locked. If Arnold is going to continue with inverted fullbacks then someone like Baccus should be started at RB. They just hang in midfield anyway. Ironically I think it's someone who needs a big engine but they're in a fairly static role. Strain is easily the best right back. Atkinson still fares well and held his own against Peru and South Korea. Norway is in season. Do we want to drag Yazbek to Dhaka and Perth? Heaven forbid Stenseness gets called up again. Irankunda is already away. There's a mix of injured, exhausted ( O'Neill, McGree, Irvine, Burgess) Milanovic is likely on the outer but I think, why not throw a few of these guy into the main squad? Hollman is a classy player on his day. I'd go further to add Segecic. It's a window where Arnold should dust of some cobwebs so I want starts for Yengi, Iredale, Circati, Bos, Silvera. Some are coming off massive seasons and haven't had a full summer or winter off due to tournaments the past few years. Bundesliga starts 23.8. Some teams have tours set up. We're permitted to name 26. I'd select: Gauci, Thomas, Beach Strain, Deng, Circati, Laws, Iredale, Bos, Farrell Metcalfe, Nieuwenhof, Hrustic, Nisbet, Baccus, Devlin, Hollman, Segecic Yengi, Iredale, Goodwin, Boyle, Mo Toure, Silvera, Mabil, Borrello 26 almost feels like too much. It won't happen and the susual suspects of Behich, Leckie, Duke will be picked. Borello has had crap season. Arzani before him for me Of course where are my manners? I was browsing the wikis a bit jaded and Arzani not being listed slipped my mind. Definitely got to get him back in the frame.
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Nieuwenhof, on club form arguably could be a starter.
Mo Toure, weak National team position, why not.
Farrell, unsure how this guy has not yet made a Socceroos squad.
Got big taps on Milanovic, not sure he is ready now but can see the potential... believe he may have another gear in him if he was to move to Europe... rather the likes of Arzani selected ahead of him at the moment.
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Courney - Perkins
In the lead up games for the Olyroos was only mediocre. I thought Natta was the better option. Interestingly, Vidmar played Natta at left CB in most lead up games. However, another poster has data that shows Natta doesn't win enough duels in the AL for a CB, which is a position where they have to dominate opponents, often because they have the favourable body position relative to the opponent. Natta is superb on the ball on both sides of the body. Getting back to C-P. I thought he was outstanding in all three of the Olympic qualifiers in Qatar. Excellent ball winner, terrific composure on the ball, read the game well, and even impressive going forwards. Definitely a good prospect for senior Socceroo left CB.
Also. C-P plays left back. Surprisingly he was better going forwards than tackling, delaying and jockeying in this wider role, whilst he is far more comfortable doing this in a more central position. However, he could play a useful role as a three man back three instead of Rowles for the senior Socceroos, because he is good going forwards at left back
Youlley
Only aged 19. Has superb passing range for such a young payer. Terrific composure on the ball. His greatest weakness is he is easily outmuscled in 1v1 duels, but jockeys and delays well. Needs two muscular ball winners near him ( Niew, Jake Hollman) in a midfield triangle to compensate for his inability to win hard balls against older players. If he improves his ball winning, he will be a Socceroo starter in not too long. In a few Olyroo games the rugged tackling of Popovic, Italiano or D'Arrigo were needed to back up him being outmuscled by opponents.
Jelacic
How wasn't he selected in the Olyroos in the first pace? Didn't see his flashy left foot outside step over, then left sided body swerve, that consistently upends defenders in the AL, but he executed the La Croqueta move, beating two defenders in quick succession a few times in Qatar. Arzani does this as well.
What impressed me was Jelacic's ability to win hard balls in the attacking third and his technique in general pass and move sequences in structured possession and attacking interplay. Came the closest to scoring with his shot inducing a finger save, where the ricochet hit the inside of the post against Qatar. Can't see him as a senior Socceroo just year, but he is a more complete player than D'Arrigo, who he replaced.
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+xThe big weakness for the senior Socceroos is lack of sped of ball movement in midfield and attack. The U 23s have this quality in spades. Jake Hollman, Teague, Voladon, Jelecic, Youlley, Farrell, Talbot, C - Perkins, Natta, Segecic, Trewin, Brook, Milanovic, Villupillay, Garang Kuol, et al, have this quality when playing with each other. Backed by an experienced and tough defence of Ryan, Souttar, Atkinson, Rowles and Behich/Bos, the u 23s playing in more attacking positions in the senior could inflict serious damage. I would like ot se this team in the not too doestan future. ..........................................Ryan Atkinson...........Souttar........Rowles/Circati........Bos ...................Nieuwenhof..................O'Neill ....................................Jake Hollman Brook...................Yengi/Iredale................. Goodwin Need to see more of Robertson. Irvine should probably be in the midfield, because of his recent goalscoring output, but if we want slick attacking interplay and faster senior Socceroo ball movement in central midfield to break down deep defensive blocks, Nieuw, O'Neill and Jake Hollman are the players to do it , ably assisted by Brook at right wing. Goodwin and Souttar have to be there - Souttar for aerial presence at both ends of the pitch. Goodwin for his ability to provide assists, and composure in front goal as a winger. Also, a team leader with great experience. Other players have said publicly Goodwin lifts the whole team when on the pitch. Can't believe you've left out Bacchus and McGree, who is easily our best technician, Bacchus our best ball winner. Have to agree about Jake Hollman though albeit not ahead of Mcgree. Very well rounded player as you mentioned in the above. Brook seems to have a thumping shot on him on both feet, albeit just lacked the accuracy in qatar. Think we really need to start blooding some of these guys into the roos team quickly to a. Lift our national side and b. Assist their careers. For mine, Mo Toure is already past Duke, Farrell is already past Behich, Brook milanovic and Hollman are all about equal to Boyle, Metcalfe and Hrustic and past Mabil. Think those 3 are better than Yazbek also. N'hoff already equal to Irvine albeit Irvines mindset, leadership and goalscoring from mid are all Cahillesque. Regeneration needed fast.
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+xWith this net window essentially being dead rubbers it's a good opportunity to blood some players. I don't see it however as 2 wins and a South Korea slip up could see us jump them in the rankings. Just jump them I believe but don't quote me on that. The Palestine game is a good chance to practice against a low block. Utmost priority is getting Circati capped and locked. If Arnold is going to continue with inverted fullbacks then someone like Baccus should be started at RB. They just hang in midfield anyway. Ironically I think it's someone who needs a big engine but they're in a fairly static role. Strain is easily the best right back. Atkinson still fares well and held his own against Peru and South Korea. Norway is in season. Do we want to drag Yazbek to Dhaka and Perth? Heaven forbid Stenseness gets called up again. Irankunda is already away. There's a mix of injured, exhausted ( O'Neill, McGree, Irvine, Burgess) Milanovic is likely on the outer but I think, why not throw a few of these guy into the main squad? Hollman is a classy player on his day. I'd go further to add Segecic. It's a window where Arnold should dust of some cobwebs so I want starts for Yengi, Iredale, Circati, Bos, Silvera. Some are coming off massive seasons and haven't had a full summer or winter off due to tournaments the past few years. Bundesliga starts 23.8. Some teams have tours set up. We're permitted to name 26. I'd select: Gauci, Thomas, Beach Strain, Deng, Circati, Laws, Iredale, Bos, Farrell Metcalfe, Nieuwenhof, Hrustic, Nisbet, Baccus, Devlin, Hollman, Segecic Yengi, Iredale, Goodwin, Boyle, Mo Toure, Silvera, Mabil, Borrello 26 almost feels like too much. It won't happen and the susual suspects of Behich, Leckie, Duke will be picked. Looks like he's switched to a back 5 which suits us better anyway given the plethora of good cb's we have and decent wingbacks in Atkinson, Bos and Metcalfe (actually think this is his best position).
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With all the quality youth coming through really want to see us move on from the last generation inc Leckie, Behich, Duke, Boyle, Mabil, Gethin Jones and Borello. Ideally Taggart, Irvine, Goodwin and Luongo also, but Taggart is in red hot form, Irvines goals and leadership are cahillesque, Goodwin seems to be peaking in 30's and also lifts the team and Luongo seems to be having a 2nd career peak.
Milanovic in for leckie, Farrell for Behich, Mo Toure for Duke, Brook for Borello, Milanovic for Boyle, Strain for Gethin Jones, Arzani for Mabil. Amd Nhoff over Yazbek.
Really exciting times ahead for the socceroos.
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+x+xNot including Olyroos that are already also involved with the Socceroos like Circati, Robertson, Bos and Yazbek, but which of our current olyroos or players eligible for the Olyroos are ready for the full national side? For mine.. Niewenhoff - guy is probably the 2nd or 3rd best hearts player atm according to their fan forum. Italiano - given our dearth of Rb's. Thought he played very well in u23 Asian Cup. Socceroos exposure might help him make the jump up in Germany to Bundi 1 or 2. Farrell - player that you can see has a very high ceiling. Socceroos exposure will help him get an overseas move. Mo Toure- OK missed the penalty but wasn't badly struck and thought he was great with his holdup play, passing, movement and dribbling. Looks a real threat. Volpato - not an olyroo but is eligible. Milanovic - thought he played very well, very direct, hard runner with decent delivery. Can go either left or right of his man and decent delivery. Italiano - no. Technique not good enough for this new U23 generation of whizz technicians - more like an older Aus player of past generations. Great ball winner , plays well positionally but lacks the first touch and handling speed that most of his U 23 cohorts have. Good leader on the pitch. Atkinson still a fair bit in front. Talbot - slick technician, but needs to become a more dominant ball winner as a RB. He executed sone superb first touches hder pressure and is a good passer and mover. Nieuwenhof - being a Hearts better player, isn't significant internationally. However, in the one Olyroo game I saw him play, he should be in the senior Socceroos. Very accomplished on the ball and off the ball. Some of his pass and move sequences on the right flank with Brook, Trewin and Talbot were outstanding. He is also a good ball winner. Goes into a twin screening role with O'Neill for mine for the senior Socceroos immediately. Farrell - before the Olympic qualifiers I thought he was best outfield player int he entire U 23 squad - Euro players included. He must have been injured or fatigued in Qatar. He was very disappointing by his own lofty standards. Not sure now? Faz has been brilliant in the A L and in his previous hit out with the U 23s against Saudi. Like Niew on right flank, some of his pass and move sequences with Volodan, Natta and possibly Rodriguez, Milanovic and Garang K, were brilliant. Superb first touch statically and when he takes his touch away from his marker. Saw little of his explosive ball carrying in Qatar. Mo Toure- had a few shots against Jordan, 7 against Indo and 0 against Qatar. Strong and physical, but his shooting was a massive disappointment in Qatar, but was much better in lead up games. I like him more than Yengi, despite his poor shooting in Qatar. Wins a lot of hard balls against rugged CBs and causes turnoevers in attacking third. Has pace and power. Milanovic - really developing , but lost his shooting form In Qatar Olympic Cup qual comp. Defends well from the front. A weakness is when he dribbles and ball carries he doesn't keep his head up like Jake Hollman and Brook. Volpato - couldn' t care if he wants to play for Aus. I've seen so much talent coming through, we don't need him. Segevic, Voladan, Youlley and Jake Hollman, all have enormous talent at number ten. Jake Hollman - outstanding ball winner, keeps his head up when dribbling and ball carrying, has terrific acceleration, magnificent passer and mover in tight spaces, fast handling speed, and can play 6, 8 and 10. I think he is aged 22 and is a bit older than some of his teammates, but has more complete skill set than McGree and Metcalfe - albeit the latter being a better header and is physically stronger. Like Metcalfe, Jake H needs to score more goals. I'd be inclined to play him in the Socceroos now - like many of his U 23 teammates these guys have much quicker ball movement or ball circulation that most of the senior players don't. Also, defends better than Hrustic. Needs to build some upper body strength - overhead presses, lat pull downs and bench presses for mine in the gym. Lachlan Brook - I think he should be right wing for the seniors. Brooks is the most significant scorer from a wing, possibly apart from Goodwin. Shoots powerfully with both right and left foot outside the pen box. Terrific grafter in winning hard balls and tracking back. Excellent passer and mover in tight spaces. The complete winger. Take goo positions at back post. Better ball winner than Boyle, being physically stronger. Most players have a weaker foot, that good defenders identify. Brook is i accomplished on both sides of the body, he beats defenders cutting inside and outside. One issue he might lack speed over the turf. I have seen opposition players outpace him slightly wjhilst they have the ball at their feet, whilst he is running alongside them without the ball. When I have time I will appraise C- Perkins, Vadon, Youlley, Teague, Segecic, Villupillay. Some people reading this will be surprised any of us are enthusiastic about the U 23s, because of not qualifying for Olympics. If one has a look at the stats in Grazor's comprehensive U 23 thread, they absolutely dominated everywhere in all three games, except on the scoreboard. They had 60 shots at goal compared the combined of 18 for the opposition over the three games. Disagree when you say being one of Hearts better players isn't significant internationally. Hearts both traditionally and currently are Scotland's third biggest team meaning they regularly qualify for Europa league. Typically their top 2 or 3 players are Scottish internationals and are eventually picked up by prem teams or the old firm. Neil McCann, Steven naismith, Steven pressman and a long list of others. Case in point in the current team is Lawrence Shankland who is league top scorer and apart of the national team.
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+x+x+xNot including Olyroos that are already also involved with the Socceroos like Circati, Robertson, Bos and Yazbek, but which of our current olyroos or players eligible for the Olyroos are ready for the full national side? For mine.. Niewenhoff - guy is probably the 2nd or 3rd best hearts player atm according to their fan forum. Italiano - given our dearth of Rb's. Thought he played very well in u23 Asian Cup. Socceroos exposure might help him make the jump up in Germany to Bundi 1 or 2. Farrell - player that you can see has a very high ceiling. Socceroos exposure will help him get an overseas move. Mo Toure- OK missed the penalty but wasn't badly struck and thought he was great with his holdup play, passing, movement and dribbling. Looks a real threat. Volpato - not an olyroo but is eligible. Milanovic - thought he played very well, very direct, hard runner with decent delivery. Can go either left or right of his man and decent delivery. Italiano - no. Technique not good enough for this new U23 generation of whizz technicians - more like an older Aus player of past generations. Great ball winner , plays well positionally but lacks the first touch and handling speed that most of his U 23 cohorts have. Good leader on the pitch. Atkinson still a fair bit in front. Talbot - slick technician, but needs to become a more dominant ball winner as a RB. He executed sone superb first touches hder pressure and is a good passer and mover. Nieuwenhof - being a Hearts better player, isn't significant internationally. However, in the one Olyroo game I saw him play, he should be in the senior Socceroos. Very accomplished on the ball and off the ball. Some of his pass and move sequences on the right flank with Brook, Trewin and Talbot were outstanding. He is also a good ball winner. Goes into a twin screening role with O'Neill for mine for the senior Socceroos immediately. Farrell - before the Olympic qualifiers I thought he was best outfield player int he entire U 23 squad - Euro players included. He must have been injured or fatigued in Qatar. He was very disappointing by his own lofty standards. Not sure now? Faz has been brilliant in the A L and in his previous hit out with the U 23s against Saudi. Like Niew on right flank, some of his pass and move sequences with Volodan, Natta and possibly Rodriguez, Milanovic and Garang K, were brilliant. Superb first touch statically and when he takes his touch away from his marker. Saw little of his explosive ball carrying in Qatar. Mo Toure- had a few shots against Jordan, 7 against Indo and 0 against Qatar. Strong and physical, but his shooting was a massive disappointment in Qatar, but was much better in lead up games. I like him more than Yengi, despite his poor shooting in Qatar. Wins a lot of hard balls against rugged CBs and causes turnoevers in attacking third. Has pace and power. Milanovic - really developing , but lost his shooting form In Qatar Olympic Cup qual comp. Defends well from the front. A weakness is when he dribbles and ball carries he doesn't keep his head up like Jake Hollman and Brook. Volpato - couldn' t care if he wants to play for Aus. I've seen so much talent coming through, we don't need him. Segevic, Voladan, Youlley and Jake Hollman, all have enormous talent at number ten. Jake Hollman - outstanding ball winner, keeps his head up when dribbling and ball carrying, has terrific acceleration, magnificent passer and mover in tight spaces, fast handling speed, and can play 6, 8 and 10. I think he is aged 22 and is a bit older than some of his teammates, but has more complete skill set than McGree and Metcalfe - albeit the latter being a better header and is physically stronger. Like Metcalfe, Jake H needs to score more goals. I'd be inclined to play him in the Socceroos now - like many of his U 23 teammates these guys have much quicker ball movement or ball circulation that most of the senior players don't. Also, defends better than Hrustic. Needs to build some upper body strength - overhead presses, lat pull downs and bench presses for mine in the gym. Lachlan Brook - I think he should be right wing for the seniors. Brooks is the most significant scorer from a wing, possibly apart from Goodwin. Shoots powerfully with both right and left foot outside the pen box. Terrific grafter in winning hard balls and tracking back. Excellent passer and mover in tight spaces. The complete winger. Take goo positions at back post. Better ball winner than Boyle, being physically stronger. Most players have a weaker foot, that good defenders identify. Brook is i accomplished on both sides of the body, he beats defenders cutting inside and outside. One issue he might lack speed over the turf. I have seen opposition players outpace him slightly wjhilst they have the ball at their feet, whilst he is running alongside them without the ball. When I have time I will appraise C- Perkins, Vadon, Youlley, Teague, Segecic, Villupillay. Some people reading this will be surprised any of us are enthusiastic about the U 23s, because of not qualifying for Olympics. If one has a look at the stats in Grazor's comprehensive U 23 thread, they absolutely dominated everywhere in all three games, except on the scoreboard. They had 60 shots at goal compared the combined of 18 for the opposition over the three games. Disagree when you say being one of Hearts better players isn't significant internationally. Hearts both traditionally and currently are Scotland's third biggest team meaning they regularly qualify for Europa league. Typically their top 2 or 3 players are Scottish internationals and are eventually picked up by prem teams or the old firm. Neil McCann, Steven naismith, Steven pressman and a long list of others. Case in point in the current team is Lawrence Shankland who is league top scorer and apart of the national team. Thanks for pointing this out, BOH. Generally when our players play in Scotland I see little improvement with play on the ball apart from Baccus.. The improvement tends to be in ball winning, which must be of greater value in Scotland in the type of football they play. If Hearts regularly play Europa league, which I think is a minimum of 6 tough tournament type matches, home and away, this is really good for players' development. Until recently, Scotland national team football hasn't been that successful. ATM they are a bit better from what I've seen, noting Lydon Dykes, an Aussie reject, plays for Scotland.
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+x+xThe big weakness for the senior Socceroos is lack of sped of ball movement in midfield and attack. The U 23s have this quality in spades. Jake Hollman, Teague, Voladon, Jelecic, Youlley, Farrell, Talbot, C - Perkins, Natta, Segecic, Trewin, Brook, Milanovic, Villupillay, Garang Kuol, et al, have this quality when playing with each other. Backed by an experienced and tough defence of Ryan, Souttar, Atkinson, Rowles and Behich/Bos, the u 23s playing in more attacking positions in the senior could inflict serious damage. I would like ot se this team in the not too doestan future. ..........................................Ryan Atkinson...........Souttar........Rowles/Circati........Bos ...................Nieuwenhof..................O'Neill ....................................Jake Hollman Brook...................Yengi/Iredale................. Goodwin Need to see more of Robertson. Irvine should probably be in the midfield, because of his recent goalscoring output, but if we want slick attacking interplay and faster senior Socceroo ball movement in central midfield to break down deep defensive blocks, Nieuw, O'Neill and Jake Hollman are the players to do it , ably assisted by Brook at right wing. Goodwin and Souttar have to be there - Souttar for aerial presence at both ends of the pitch. Goodwin for his ability to provide assists, and composure in front goal as a winger. Also, a team leader with great experience. Other players have said publicly Goodwin lifts the whole team when on the pitch. Can't believe you've left out Bacchus and McGree, who is easily our best technician, Bacchus our best ball winner. Have to agree about Jake Hollman though albeit not ahead of Mcgree. Very well rounded player as you mentioned in the above. Brook seems to have a thumping shot on him on both feet, albeit just lacked the accuracy in qatar. Think we really need to start blooding some of these guys into the roos team quickly to a. Lift our national side and b. Assist their careers. For mine, Mo Toure is already past Duke, Farrell is already past Behich, Brook milanovic and Hollman are all about equal to Boyle, Metcalfe and Hrustic and past Mabil. Think those 3 are better than Yazbek also. N'hoff already equal to Irvine albeit Irvines mindset, leadership and goalscoring from mid are all Cahillesque. Regeneration needed fast. I beg to differ. I think Hrustic is the best technician with the ball in the front 6 with the ball at his feet. Where he is weaker is as a ball winner, and causing turnovers, in his performance when they have the ball. In the younger gen, we have good technicians in spades in midfield, who work harder off the ball than Hrustic - Nieuw, Teague, Jake Hollman - as ball winners and ball players - adding Jelacic, and Priestman ( can't even make Aus underage teams), plus Segecic, Youlley and Voladon as slick ball players. I'm a huge fan of Faz, but he was mediocre in Qatar when we needed him to terrorise the opposition defences. Vidmar didn't use him like that though. I think Faz wasn't 100% fit. Thanks for starting this thread, BOH. I felt gutted when South K played all over Aus in the Asian Cup seniors. At U 23 level, I think we are better than South K. We have hope!
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+x+x+x+xNot including Olyroos that are already also involved with the Socceroos like Circati, Robertson, Bos and Yazbek, but which of our current olyroos or players eligible for the Olyroos are ready for the full national side? For mine.. Niewenhoff - guy is probably the 2nd or 3rd best hearts player atm according to their fan forum. Italiano - given our dearth of Rb's. Thought he played very well in u23 Asian Cup. Socceroos exposure might help him make the jump up in Germany to Bundi 1 or 2. Farrell - player that you can see has a very high ceiling. Socceroos exposure will help him get an overseas move. Mo Toure- OK missed the penalty but wasn't badly struck and thought he was great with his holdup play, passing, movement and dribbling. Looks a real threat. Volpato - not an olyroo but is eligible. Milanovic - thought he played very well, very direct, hard runner with decent delivery. Can go either left or right of his man and decent delivery. Italiano - no. Technique not good enough for this new U23 generation of whizz technicians - more like an older Aus player of past generations. Great ball winner , plays well positionally but lacks the first touch and handling speed that most of his U 23 cohorts have. Good leader on the pitch. Atkinson still a fair bit in front. Talbot - slick technician, but needs to become a more dominant ball winner as a RB. He executed sone superb first touches hder pressure and is a good passer and mover. Nieuwenhof - being a Hearts better player, isn't significant internationally. However, in the one Olyroo game I saw him play, he should be in the senior Socceroos. Very accomplished on the ball and off the ball. Some of his pass and move sequences on the right flank with Brook, Trewin and Talbot were outstanding. He is also a good ball winner. Goes into a twin screening role with O'Neill for mine for the senior Socceroos immediately. Farrell - before the Olympic qualifiers I thought he was best outfield player int he entire U 23 squad - Euro players included. He must have been injured or fatigued in Qatar. He was very disappointing by his own lofty standards. Not sure now? Faz has been brilliant in the A L and in his previous hit out with the U 23s against Saudi. Like Niew on right flank, some of his pass and move sequences with Volodan, Natta and possibly Rodriguez, Milanovic and Garang K, were brilliant. Superb first touch statically and when he takes his touch away from his marker. Saw little of his explosive ball carrying in Qatar. Mo Toure- had a few shots against Jordan, 7 against Indo and 0 against Qatar. Strong and physical, but his shooting was a massive disappointment in Qatar, but was much better in lead up games. I like him more than Yengi, despite his poor shooting in Qatar. Wins a lot of hard balls against rugged CBs and causes turnoevers in attacking third. Has pace and power. Milanovic - really developing , but lost his shooting form In Qatar Olympic Cup qual comp. Defends well from the front. A weakness is when he dribbles and ball carries he doesn't keep his head up like Jake Hollman and Brook. Volpato - couldn' t care if he wants to play for Aus. I've seen so much talent coming through, we don't need him. Segevic, Voladan, Youlley and Jake Hollman, all have enormous talent at number ten. Jake Hollman - outstanding ball winner, keeps his head up when dribbling and ball carrying, has terrific acceleration, magnificent passer and mover in tight spaces, fast handling speed, and can play 6, 8 and 10. I think he is aged 22 and is a bit older than some of his teammates, but has more complete skill set than McGree and Metcalfe - albeit the latter being a better header and is physically stronger. Like Metcalfe, Jake H needs to score more goals. I'd be inclined to play him in the Socceroos now - like many of his U 23 teammates these guys have much quicker ball movement or ball circulation that most of the senior players don't. Also, defends better than Hrustic. Needs to build some upper body strength - overhead presses, lat pull downs and bench presses for mine in the gym. Lachlan Brook - I think he should be right wing for the seniors. Brooks is the most significant scorer from a wing, possibly apart from Goodwin. Shoots powerfully with both right and left foot outside the pen box. Terrific grafter in winning hard balls and tracking back. Excellent passer and mover in tight spaces. The complete winger. Take goo positions at back post. Better ball winner than Boyle, being physically stronger. Most players have a weaker foot, that good defenders identify. Brook is i accomplished on both sides of the body, he beats defenders cutting inside and outside. One issue he might lack speed over the turf. I have seen opposition players outpace him slightly wjhilst they have the ball at their feet, whilst he is running alongside them without the ball. When I have time I will appraise C- Perkins, Vadon, Youlley, Teague, Segecic, Villupillay. Some people reading this will be surprised any of us are enthusiastic about the U 23s, because of not qualifying for Olympics. If one has a look at the stats in Grazor's comprehensive U 23 thread, they absolutely dominated everywhere in all three games, except on the scoreboard. They had 60 shots at goal compared the combined of 18 for the opposition over the three games. Disagree when you say being one of Hearts better players isn't significant internationally. Hearts both traditionally and currently are Scotland's third biggest team meaning they regularly qualify for Europa league. Typically their top 2 or 3 players are Scottish internationals and are eventually picked up by prem teams or the old firm. Neil McCann, Steven naismith, Steven pressman and a long list of others. Case in point in the current team is Lawrence Shankland who is league top scorer and apart of the national team. Thanks for pointing this out, BOH. Generally when our players play in Scotland I see little improvement with play on the ball apart from Baccus.. The improvement tends to be in ball winning, which must be of greater value in Scotland in the type of football they play. If Hearts regularly play Europa league, which I think is a minimum of 6 tough tournament type matches, home and away, this is really good for players' development. Until recently, Scotland national team football hasn't been that successful. ATM they are a bit better from what I've seen, noting Lydon Dykes, an Aussie reject, plays for Scotland. You haven't got a clue about Scottish football.
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+x+x+x+x+xNot including Olyroos that are already also involved with the Socceroos like Circati, Robertson, Bos and Yazbek, but which of our current olyroos or players eligible for the Olyroos are ready for the full national side? For mine.. Niewenhoff - guy is probably the 2nd or 3rd best hearts player atm according to their fan forum. Italiano - given our dearth of Rb's. Thought he played very well in u23 Asian Cup. Socceroos exposure might help him make the jump up in Germany to Bundi 1 or 2. Farrell - player that you can see has a very high ceiling. Socceroos exposure will help him get an overseas move. Mo Toure- OK missed the penalty but wasn't badly struck and thought he was great with his holdup play, passing, movement and dribbling. Looks a real threat. Volpato - not an olyroo but is eligible. Milanovic - thought he played very well, very direct, hard runner with decent delivery. Can go either left or right of his man and decent delivery. Italiano - no. Technique not good enough for this new U23 generation of whizz technicians - more like an older Aus player of past generations. Great ball winner , plays well positionally but lacks the first touch and handling speed that most of his U 23 cohorts have. Good leader on the pitch. Atkinson still a fair bit in front. Talbot - slick technician, but needs to become a more dominant ball winner as a RB. He executed sone superb first touches hder pressure and is a good passer and mover. Nieuwenhof - being a Hearts better player, isn't significant internationally. However, in the one Olyroo game I saw him play, he should be in the senior Socceroos. Very accomplished on the ball and off the ball. Some of his pass and move sequences on the right flank with Brook, Trewin and Talbot were outstanding. He is also a good ball winner. Goes into a twin screening role with O'Neill for mine for the senior Socceroos immediately. Farrell - before the Olympic qualifiers I thought he was best outfield player int he entire U 23 squad - Euro players included. He must have been injured or fatigued in Qatar. He was very disappointing by his own lofty standards. Not sure now? Faz has been brilliant in the A L and in his previous hit out with the U 23s against Saudi. Like Niew on right flank, some of his pass and move sequences with Volodan, Natta and possibly Rodriguez, Milanovic and Garang K, were brilliant. Superb first touch statically and when he takes his touch away from his marker. Saw little of his explosive ball carrying in Qatar. Mo Toure- had a few shots against Jordan, 7 against Indo and 0 against Qatar. Strong and physical, but his shooting was a massive disappointment in Qatar, but was much better in lead up games. I like him more than Yengi, despite his poor shooting in Qatar. Wins a lot of hard balls against rugged CBs and causes turnoevers in attacking third. Has pace and power. Milanovic - really developing , but lost his shooting form In Qatar Olympic Cup qual comp. Defends well from the front. A weakness is when he dribbles and ball carries he doesn't keep his head up like Jake Hollman and Brook. Volpato - couldn' t care if he wants to play for Aus. I've seen so much talent coming through, we don't need him. Segevic, Voladan, Youlley and Jake Hollman, all have enormous talent at number ten. Jake Hollman - outstanding ball winner, keeps his head up when dribbling and ball carrying, has terrific acceleration, magnificent passer and mover in tight spaces, fast handling speed, and can play 6, 8 and 10. I think he is aged 22 and is a bit older than some of his teammates, but has more complete skill set than McGree and Metcalfe - albeit the latter being a better header and is physically stronger. Like Metcalfe, Jake H needs to score more goals. I'd be inclined to play him in the Socceroos now - like many of his U 23 teammates these guys have much quicker ball movement or ball circulation that most of the senior players don't. Also, defends better than Hrustic. Needs to build some upper body strength - overhead presses, lat pull downs and bench presses for mine in the gym. Lachlan Brook - I think he should be right wing for the seniors. Brooks is the most significant scorer from a wing, possibly apart from Goodwin. Shoots powerfully with both right and left foot outside the pen box. Terrific grafter in winning hard balls and tracking back. Excellent passer and mover in tight spaces. The complete winger. Take goo positions at back post. Better ball winner than Boyle, being physically stronger. Most players have a weaker foot, that good defenders identify. Brook is i accomplished on both sides of the body, he beats defenders cutting inside and outside. One issue he might lack speed over the turf. I have seen opposition players outpace him slightly wjhilst they have the ball at their feet, whilst he is running alongside them without the ball. When I have time I will appraise C- Perkins, Vadon, Youlley, Teague, Segecic, Villupillay. Some people reading this will be surprised any of us are enthusiastic about the U 23s, because of not qualifying for Olympics. If one has a look at the stats in Grazor's comprehensive U 23 thread, they absolutely dominated everywhere in all three games, except on the scoreboard. They had 60 shots at goal compared the combined of 18 for the opposition over the three games. Disagree when you say being one of Hearts better players isn't significant internationally. Hearts both traditionally and currently are Scotland's third biggest team meaning they regularly qualify for Europa league. Typically their top 2 or 3 players are Scottish internationals and are eventually picked up by prem teams or the old firm. Neil McCann, Steven naismith, Steven pressman and a long list of others. Case in point in the current team is Lawrence Shankland who is league top scorer and apart of the national team. Thanks for pointing this out, BOH. Generally when our players play in Scotland I see little improvement with play on the ball apart from Baccus.. The improvement tends to be in ball winning, which must be of greater value in Scotland in the type of football they play. If Hearts regularly play Europa league, which I think is a minimum of 6 tough tournament type matches, home and away, this is really good for players' development. Until recently, Scotland national team football hasn't been that successful. ATM they are a bit better from what I've seen, noting Lydon Dykes, an Aussie reject, plays for Scotland. You haven't got a clue about Scottish football. Only recently he was saying all the fields except a couple are muddy bogs..
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+x+x+x+xNot including Olyroos that are already also involved with the Socceroos like Circati, Robertson, Bos and Yazbek, but which of our current olyroos or players eligible for the Olyroos are ready for the full national side? For mine.. Niewenhoff - guy is probably the 2nd or 3rd best hearts player atm according to their fan forum. Italiano - given our dearth of Rb's. Thought he played very well in u23 Asian Cup. Socceroos exposure might help him make the jump up in Germany to Bundi 1 or 2. Farrell - player that you can see has a very high ceiling. Socceroos exposure will help him get an overseas move. Mo Toure- OK missed the penalty but wasn't badly struck and thought he was great with his holdup play, passing, movement and dribbling. Looks a real threat. Volpato - not an olyroo but is eligible. Milanovic - thought he played very well, very direct, hard runner with decent delivery. Can go either left or right of his man and decent delivery. Italiano - no. Technique not good enough for this new U23 generation of whizz technicians - more like an older Aus player of past generations. Great ball winner , plays well positionally but lacks the first touch and handling speed that most of his U 23 cohorts have. Good leader on the pitch. Atkinson still a fair bit in front. Talbot - slick technician, but needs to become a more dominant ball winner as a RB. He executed sone superb first touches hder pressure and is a good passer and mover. Nieuwenhof - being a Hearts better player, isn't significant internationally. However, in the one Olyroo game I saw him play, he should be in the senior Socceroos. Very accomplished on the ball and off the ball. Some of his pass and move sequences on the right flank with Brook, Trewin and Talbot were outstanding. He is also a good ball winner. Goes into a twin screening role with O'Neill for mine for the senior Socceroos immediately. Farrell - before the Olympic qualifiers I thought he was best outfield player int he entire U 23 squad - Euro players included. He must have been injured or fatigued in Qatar. He was very disappointing by his own lofty standards. Not sure now? Faz has been brilliant in the A L and in his previous hit out with the U 23s against Saudi. Like Niew on right flank, some of his pass and move sequences with Volodan, Natta and possibly Rodriguez, Milanovic and Garang K, were brilliant. Superb first touch statically and when he takes his touch away from his marker. Saw little of his explosive ball carrying in Qatar. Mo Toure- had a few shots against Jordan, 7 against Indo and 0 against Qatar. Strong and physical, but his shooting was a massive disappointment in Qatar, but was much better in lead up games. I like him more than Yengi, despite his poor shooting in Qatar. Wins a lot of hard balls against rugged CBs and causes turnoevers in attacking third. Has pace and power. Milanovic - really developing , but lost his shooting form In Qatar Olympic Cup qual comp. Defends well from the front. A weakness is when he dribbles and ball carries he doesn't keep his head up like Jake Hollman and Brook. Volpato - couldn' t care if he wants to play for Aus. I've seen so much talent coming through, we don't need him. Segevic, Voladan, Youlley and Jake Hollman, all have enormous talent at number ten. Jake Hollman - outstanding ball winner, keeps his head up when dribbling and ball carrying, has terrific acceleration, magnificent passer and mover in tight spaces, fast handling speed, and can play 6, 8 and 10. I think he is aged 22 and is a bit older than some of his teammates, but has more complete skill set than McGree and Metcalfe - albeit the latter being a better header and is physically stronger. Like Metcalfe, Jake H needs to score more goals. I'd be inclined to play him in the Socceroos now - like many of his U 23 teammates these guys have much quicker ball movement or ball circulation that most of the senior players don't. Also, defends better than Hrustic. Needs to build some upper body strength - overhead presses, lat pull downs and bench presses for mine in the gym. Lachlan Brook - I think he should be right wing for the seniors. Brooks is the most significant scorer from a wing, possibly apart from Goodwin. Shoots powerfully with both right and left foot outside the pen box. Terrific grafter in winning hard balls and tracking back. Excellent passer and mover in tight spaces. The complete winger. Take goo positions at back post. Better ball winner than Boyle, being physically stronger. Most players have a weaker foot, that good defenders identify. Brook is i accomplished on both sides of the body, he beats defenders cutting inside and outside. One issue he might lack speed over the turf. I have seen opposition players outpace him slightly wjhilst they have the ball at their feet, whilst he is running alongside them without the ball. When I have time I will appraise C- Perkins, Vadon, Youlley, Teague, Segecic, Villupillay. Some people reading this will be surprised any of us are enthusiastic about the U 23s, because of not qualifying for Olympics. If one has a look at the stats in Grazor's comprehensive U 23 thread, they absolutely dominated everywhere in all three games, except on the scoreboard. They had 60 shots at goal compared the combined of 18 for the opposition over the three games. Disagree when you say being one of Hearts better players isn't significant internationally. Hearts both traditionally and currently are Scotland's third biggest team meaning they regularly qualify for Europa league. Typically their top 2 or 3 players are Scottish internationals and are eventually picked up by prem teams or the old firm. Neil McCann, Steven naismith, Steven pressman and a long list of others. Case in point in the current team is Lawrence Shankland who is league top scorer and apart of the national team. Thanks for pointing this out, BOH. Generally when our players play in Scotland I see little improvement with play on the ball apart from Baccus.. The improvement tends to be in ball winning, which must be of greater value in Scotland in the type of football they play. If Hearts regularly play Europa league, which I think is a minimum of 6 tough tournament type matches, home and away, this is really good for players' development. Until recently, Scotland national team football hasn't been that successful. ATM they are a bit better from what I've seen, noting Lydon Dykes, an Aussie reject, plays for Scotland. "QPR striker Lyndon Dykes (pix) said Monday he decided to reject the chance to represent Australia because he owes his career to Scotland" "Arnold said that had Australia's qualifiers not been called off back in March 2020, Lyndon would've been selected in the squad to play Kuwait and Nepal." So he isn't an Australian reject.
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+x+x+x+x+xNot including Olyroos that are already also involved with the Socceroos like Circati, Robertson, Bos and Yazbek, but which of our current olyroos or players eligible for the Olyroos are ready for the full national side? For mine.. Niewenhoff - guy is probably the 2nd or 3rd best hearts player atm according to their fan forum. Italiano - given our dearth of Rb's. Thought he played very well in u23 Asian Cup. Socceroos exposure might help him make the jump up in Germany to Bundi 1 or 2. Farrell - player that you can see has a very high ceiling. Socceroos exposure will help him get an overseas move. Mo Toure- OK missed the penalty but wasn't badly struck and thought he was great with his holdup play, passing, movement and dribbling. Looks a real threat. Volpato - not an olyroo but is eligible. Milanovic - thought he played very well, very direct, hard runner with decent delivery. Can go either left or right of his man and decent delivery. Italiano - no. Technique not good enough for this new U23 generation of whizz technicians - more like an older Aus player of past generations. Great ball winner , plays well positionally but lacks the first touch and handling speed that most of his U 23 cohorts have. Good leader on the pitch. Atkinson still a fair bit in front. Talbot - slick technician, but needs to become a more dominant ball winner as a RB. He executed sone superb first touches hder pressure and is a good passer and mover. Nieuwenhof - being a Hearts better player, isn't significant internationally. However, in the one Olyroo game I saw him play, he should be in the senior Socceroos. Very accomplished on the ball and off the ball. Some of his pass and move sequences on the right flank with Brook, Trewin and Talbot were outstanding. He is also a good ball winner. Goes into a twin screening role with O'Neill for mine for the senior Socceroos immediately. Farrell - before the Olympic qualifiers I thought he was best outfield player int he entire U 23 squad - Euro players included. He must have been injured or fatigued in Qatar. He was very disappointing by his own lofty standards. Not sure now? Faz has been brilliant in the A L and in his previous hit out with the U 23s against Saudi. Like Niew on right flank, some of his pass and move sequences with Volodan, Natta and possibly Rodriguez, Milanovic and Garang K, were brilliant. Superb first touch statically and when he takes his touch away from his marker. Saw little of his explosive ball carrying in Qatar. Mo Toure- had a few shots against Jordan, 7 against Indo and 0 against Qatar. Strong and physical, but his shooting was a massive disappointment in Qatar, but was much better in lead up games. I like him more than Yengi, despite his poor shooting in Qatar. Wins a lot of hard balls against rugged CBs and causes turnoevers in attacking third. Has pace and power. Milanovic - really developing , but lost his shooting form In Qatar Olympic Cup qual comp. Defends well from the front. A weakness is when he dribbles and ball carries he doesn't keep his head up like Jake Hollman and Brook. Volpato - couldn' t care if he wants to play for Aus. I've seen so much talent coming through, we don't need him. Segevic, Voladan, Youlley and Jake Hollman, all have enormous talent at number ten. Jake Hollman - outstanding ball winner, keeps his head up when dribbling and ball carrying, has terrific acceleration, magnificent passer and mover in tight spaces, fast handling speed, and can play 6, 8 and 10. I think he is aged 22 and is a bit older than some of his teammates, but has more complete skill set than McGree and Metcalfe - albeit the latter being a better header and is physically stronger. Like Metcalfe, Jake H needs to score more goals. I'd be inclined to play him in the Socceroos now - like many of his U 23 teammates these guys have much quicker ball movement or ball circulation that most of the senior players don't. Also, defends better than Hrustic. Needs to build some upper body strength - overhead presses, lat pull downs and bench presses for mine in the gym. Lachlan Brook - I think he should be right wing for the seniors. Brooks is the most significant scorer from a wing, possibly apart from Goodwin. Shoots powerfully with both right and left foot outside the pen box. Terrific grafter in winning hard balls and tracking back. Excellent passer and mover in tight spaces. The complete winger. Take goo positions at back post. Better ball winner than Boyle, being physically stronger. Most players have a weaker foot, that good defenders identify. Brook is i accomplished on both sides of the body, he beats defenders cutting inside and outside. One issue he might lack speed over the turf. I have seen opposition players outpace him slightly wjhilst they have the ball at their feet, whilst he is running alongside them without the ball. When I have time I will appraise C- Perkins, Vadon, Youlley, Teague, Segecic, Villupillay. Some people reading this will be surprised any of us are enthusiastic about the U 23s, because of not qualifying for Olympics. If one has a look at the stats in Grazor's comprehensive U 23 thread, they absolutely dominated everywhere in all three games, except on the scoreboard. They had 60 shots at goal compared the combined of 18 for the opposition over the three games. Disagree when you say being one of Hearts better players isn't significant internationally. Hearts both traditionally and currently are Scotland's third biggest team meaning they regularly qualify for Europa league. Typically their top 2 or 3 players are Scottish internationals and are eventually picked up by prem teams or the old firm. Neil McCann, Steven naismith, Steven pressman and a long list of others. Case in point in the current team is Lawrence Shankland who is league top scorer and apart of the national team. Thanks for pointing this out, BOH. Generally when our players play in Scotland I see little improvement with play on the ball apart from Baccus.. The improvement tends to be in ball winning, which must be of greater value in Scotland in the type of football they play. If Hearts regularly play Europa league, which I think is a minimum of 6 tough tournament type matches, home and away, this is really good for players' development. Until recently, Scotland national team football hasn't been that successful. ATM they are a bit better from what I've seen, noting Lydon Dykes, an Aussie reject, plays for Scotland. "QPR striker Lyndon Dykes (pix) said Monday he decided to reject the chance to represent Australia because he owes his career to Scotland" "Arnold said that had Australia's qualifiers not been called off back in March 2020, Lyndon would've been selected in the squad to play Kuwait and Nepal." So he isn't an Australian reject. Let’s be honest, he’d have a handful of caps for us max.
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Right now, there aren’t that many to break into the squad right away but I can see a fair few eventually getting caps. The uncapped players that I think are ready right now are Circati, Farrell, Brook, Milanovic and Irankunda.
Of players that have been capped, the likes of Tilio, Toure and Garang Kuol can definitely get back into the senior squad when they are fit, playing regularly and in form.
In the next 12 months, I can definitely see the likes of Girdwood-Reich and Teague seriously challenging for Socceroos spots.
And lastly, a potential call-up from left field. Giuseppe Bovalina had a good first season in the ALM and has now gone to the MLS. If he plays regularly there, then he should definitely be in consideration.
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+x+x+x+x+x+xNot including Olyroos that are already also involved with the Socceroos like Circati, Robertson, Bos and Yazbek, but which of our current olyroos or players eligible for the Olyroos are ready for the full national side? For mine.. Niewenhoff - guy is probably the 2nd or 3rd best hearts player atm according to their fan forum. Italiano - given our dearth of Rb's. Thought he played very well in u23 Asian Cup. Socceroos exposure might help him make the jump up in Germany to Bundi 1 or 2. Farrell - player that you can see has a very high ceiling. Socceroos exposure will help him get an overseas move. Mo Toure- OK missed the penalty but wasn't badly struck and thought he was great with his holdup play, passing, movement and dribbling. Looks a real threat. Volpato - not an olyroo but is eligible. Milanovic - thought he played very well, very direct, hard runner with decent delivery. Can go either left or right of his man and decent delivery. Italiano - no. Technique not good enough for this new U23 generation of whizz technicians - more like an older Aus player of past generations. Great ball winner , plays well positionally but lacks the first touch and handling speed that most of his U 23 cohorts have. Good leader on the pitch. Atkinson still a fair bit in front. Talbot - slick technician, but needs to become a more dominant ball winner as a RB. He executed sone superb first touches hder pressure and is a good passer and mover. Nieuwenhof - being a Hearts better player, isn't significant internationally. However, in the one Olyroo game I saw him play, he should be in the senior Socceroos. Very accomplished on the ball and off the ball. Some of his pass and move sequences on the right flank with Brook, Trewin and Talbot were outstanding. He is also a good ball winner. Goes into a twin screening role with O'Neill for mine for the senior Socceroos immediately. Farrell - before the Olympic qualifiers I thought he was best outfield player int he entire U 23 squad - Euro players included. He must have been injured or fatigued in Qatar. He was very disappointing by his own lofty standards. Not sure now? Faz has been brilliant in the A L and in his previous hit out with the U 23s against Saudi. Like Niew on right flank, some of his pass and move sequences with Volodan, Natta and possibly Rodriguez, Milanovic and Garang K, were brilliant. Superb first touch statically and when he takes his touch away from his marker. Saw little of his explosive ball carrying in Qatar. Mo Toure- had a few shots against Jordan, 7 against Indo and 0 against Qatar. Strong and physical, but his shooting was a massive disappointment in Qatar, but was much better in lead up games. I like him more than Yengi, despite his poor shooting in Qatar. Wins a lot of hard balls against rugged CBs and causes turnoevers in attacking third. Has pace and power. Milanovic - really developing , but lost his shooting form In Qatar Olympic Cup qual comp. Defends well from the front. A weakness is when he dribbles and ball carries he doesn't keep his head up like Jake Hollman and Brook. Volpato - couldn' t care if he wants to play for Aus. I've seen so much talent coming through, we don't need him. Segevic, Voladan, Youlley and Jake Hollman, all have enormous talent at number ten. Jake Hollman - outstanding ball winner, keeps his head up when dribbling and ball carrying, has terrific acceleration, magnificent passer and mover in tight spaces, fast handling speed, and can play 6, 8 and 10. I think he is aged 22 and is a bit older than some of his teammates, but has more complete skill set than McGree and Metcalfe - albeit the latter being a better header and is physically stronger. Like Metcalfe, Jake H needs to score more goals. I'd be inclined to play him in the Socceroos now - like many of his U 23 teammates these guys have much quicker ball movement or ball circulation that most of the senior players don't. Also, defends better than Hrustic. Needs to build some upper body strength - overhead presses, lat pull downs and bench presses for mine in the gym. Lachlan Brook - I think he should be right wing for the seniors. Brooks is the most significant scorer from a wing, possibly apart from Goodwin. Shoots powerfully with both right and left foot outside the pen box. Terrific grafter in winning hard balls and tracking back. Excellent passer and mover in tight spaces. The complete winger. Take goo positions at back post. Better ball winner than Boyle, being physically stronger. Most players have a weaker foot, that good defenders identify. Brook is i accomplished on both sides of the body, he beats defenders cutting inside and outside. One issue he might lack speed over the turf. I have seen opposition players outpace him slightly wjhilst they have the ball at their feet, whilst he is running alongside them without the ball. When I have time I will appraise C- Perkins, Vadon, Youlley, Teague, Segecic, Villupillay. Some people reading this will be surprised any of us are enthusiastic about the U 23s, because of not qualifying for Olympics. If one has a look at the stats in Grazor's comprehensive U 23 thread, they absolutely dominated everywhere in all three games, except on the scoreboard. They had 60 shots at goal compared the combined of 18 for the opposition over the three games. Disagree when you say being one of Hearts better players isn't significant internationally. Hearts both traditionally and currently are Scotland's third biggest team meaning they regularly qualify for Europa league. Typically their top 2 or 3 players are Scottish internationals and are eventually picked up by prem teams or the old firm. Neil McCann, Steven naismith, Steven pressman and a long list of others. Case in point in the current team is Lawrence Shankland who is league top scorer and apart of the national team. Thanks for pointing this out, BOH. Generally when our players play in Scotland I see little improvement with play on the ball apart from Baccus.. The improvement tends to be in ball winning, which must be of greater value in Scotland in the type of football they play. If Hearts regularly play Europa league, which I think is a minimum of 6 tough tournament type matches, home and away, this is really good for players' development. Until recently, Scotland national team football hasn't been that successful. ATM they are a bit better from what I've seen, noting Lydon Dykes, an Aussie reject, plays for Scotland. "QPR striker Lyndon Dykes (pix) said Monday he decided to reject the chance to represent Australia because he owes his career to Scotland" "Arnold said that had Australia's qualifiers not been called off back in March 2020, Lyndon would've been selected in the squad to play Kuwait and Nepal." So he isn't an Australian reject. Let’s be honest, he’d have a handful of caps for us max. You genuinely think Duke would have been picked over him? Prob would have been our starting striker ever since he moved to QPR. Would have played about 25 caps til now imo. Is younger than Duke too so would have a few more yrs as our no1 til Yengi and Mo Toure step up
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+x+x+x+x+x+x+xNot including Olyroos that are already also involved with the Socceroos like Circati, Robertson, Bos and Yazbek, but which of our current olyroos or players eligible for the Olyroos are ready for the full national side? For mine.. Niewenhoff - guy is probably the 2nd or 3rd best hearts player atm according to their fan forum. Italiano - given our dearth of Rb's. Thought he played very well in u23 Asian Cup. Socceroos exposure might help him make the jump up in Germany to Bundi 1 or 2. Farrell - player that you can see has a very high ceiling. Socceroos exposure will help him get an overseas move. Mo Toure- OK missed the penalty but wasn't badly struck and thought he was great with his holdup play, passing, movement and dribbling. Looks a real threat. Volpato - not an olyroo but is eligible. Milanovic - thought he played very well, very direct, hard runner with decent delivery. Can go either left or right of his man and decent delivery. Italiano - no. Technique not good enough for this new U23 generation of whizz technicians - more like an older Aus player of past generations. Great ball winner , plays well positionally but lacks the first touch and handling speed that most of his U 23 cohorts have. Good leader on the pitch. Atkinson still a fair bit in front. Talbot - slick technician, but needs to become a more dominant ball winner as a RB. He executed sone superb first touches hder pressure and is a good passer and mover. Nieuwenhof - being a Hearts better player, isn't significant internationally. However, in the one Olyroo game I saw him play, he should be in the senior Socceroos. Very accomplished on the ball and off the ball. Some of his pass and move sequences on the right flank with Brook, Trewin and Talbot were outstanding. He is also a good ball winner. Goes into a twin screening role with O'Neill for mine for the senior Socceroos immediately. Farrell - before the Olympic qualifiers I thought he was best outfield player int he entire U 23 squad - Euro players included. He must have been injured or fatigued in Qatar. He was very disappointing by his own lofty standards. Not sure now? Faz has been brilliant in the A L and in his previous hit out with the U 23s against Saudi. Like Niew on right flank, some of his pass and move sequences with Volodan, Natta and possibly Rodriguez, Milanovic and Garang K, were brilliant. Superb first touch statically and when he takes his touch away from his marker. Saw little of his explosive ball carrying in Qatar. Mo Toure- had a few shots against Jordan, 7 against Indo and 0 against Qatar. Strong and physical, but his shooting was a massive disappointment in Qatar, but was much better in lead up games. I like him more than Yengi, despite his poor shooting in Qatar. Wins a lot of hard balls against rugged CBs and causes turnoevers in attacking third. Has pace and power. Milanovic - really developing , but lost his shooting form In Qatar Olympic Cup qual comp. Defends well from the front. A weakness is when he dribbles and ball carries he doesn't keep his head up like Jake Hollman and Brook. Volpato - couldn' t care if he wants to play for Aus. I've seen so much talent coming through, we don't need him. Segevic, Voladan, Youlley and Jake Hollman, all have enormous talent at number ten. Jake Hollman - outstanding ball winner, keeps his head up when dribbling and ball carrying, has terrific acceleration, magnificent passer and mover in tight spaces, fast handling speed, and can play 6, 8 and 10. I think he is aged 22 and is a bit older than some of his teammates, but has more complete skill set than McGree and Metcalfe - albeit the latter being a better header and is physically stronger. Like Metcalfe, Jake H needs to score more goals. I'd be inclined to play him in the Socceroos now - like many of his U 23 teammates these guys have much quicker ball movement or ball circulation that most of the senior players don't. Also, defends better than Hrustic. Needs to build some upper body strength - overhead presses, lat pull downs and bench presses for mine in the gym. Lachlan Brook - I think he should be right wing for the seniors. Brooks is the most significant scorer from a wing, possibly apart from Goodwin. Shoots powerfully with both right and left foot outside the pen box. Terrific grafter in winning hard balls and tracking back. Excellent passer and mover in tight spaces. The complete winger. Take goo positions at back post. Better ball winner than Boyle, being physically stronger. Most players have a weaker foot, that good defenders identify. Brook is i accomplished on both sides of the body, he beats defenders cutting inside and outside. One issue he might lack speed over the turf. I have seen opposition players outpace him slightly wjhilst they have the ball at their feet, whilst he is running alongside them without the ball. When I have time I will appraise C- Perkins, Vadon, Youlley, Teague, Segecic, Villupillay. Some people reading this will be surprised any of us are enthusiastic about the U 23s, because of not qualifying for Olympics. If one has a look at the stats in Grazor's comprehensive U 23 thread, they absolutely dominated everywhere in all three games, except on the scoreboard. They had 60 shots at goal compared the combined of 18 for the opposition over the three games. Disagree when you say being one of Hearts better players isn't significant internationally. Hearts both traditionally and currently are Scotland's third biggest team meaning they regularly qualify for Europa league. Typically their top 2 or 3 players are Scottish internationals and are eventually picked up by prem teams or the old firm. Neil McCann, Steven naismith, Steven pressman and a long list of others. Case in point in the current team is Lawrence Shankland who is league top scorer and apart of the national team. Thanks for pointing this out, BOH. Generally when our players play in Scotland I see little improvement with play on the ball apart from Baccus.. The improvement tends to be in ball winning, which must be of greater value in Scotland in the type of football they play. If Hearts regularly play Europa league, which I think is a minimum of 6 tough tournament type matches, home and away, this is really good for players' development. Until recently, Scotland national team football hasn't been that successful. ATM they are a bit better from what I've seen, noting Lydon Dykes, an Aussie reject, plays for Scotland. "QPR striker Lyndon Dykes (pix) said Monday he decided to reject the chance to represent Australia because he owes his career to Scotland" "Arnold said that had Australia's qualifiers not been called off back in March 2020, Lyndon would've been selected in the squad to play Kuwait and Nepal." So he isn't an Australian reject. Let’s be honest, he’d have a handful of caps for us max. You genuinely think Duke would have been picked over him? Prob would have been our starting striker ever since he moved to QPR. Would have played about 25 caps til now imo. Is younger than Duke too so would have a few more yrs as our no1 til Yengi and Mo Toure step up 1000% yes
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+x+x+x+xNot including Olyroos that are already also involved with the Socceroos like Circati, Robertson, Bos and Yazbek, but which of our current olyroos or players eligible for the Olyroos are ready for the full national side? For mine.. Niewenhoff - guy is probably the 2nd or 3rd best hearts player atm according to their fan forum. Italiano - given our dearth of Rb's. Thought he played very well in u23 Asian Cup. Socceroos exposure might help him make the jump up in Germany to Bundi 1 or 2. Farrell - player that you can see has a very high ceiling. Socceroos exposure will help him get an overseas move. Mo Toure- OK missed the penalty but wasn't badly struck and thought he was great with his holdup play, passing, movement and dribbling. Looks a real threat. Volpato - not an olyroo but is eligible. Milanovic - thought he played very well, very direct, hard runner with decent delivery. Can go either left or right of his man and decent delivery. Italiano - no. Technique not good enough for this new U23 generation of whizz technicians - more like an older Aus player of past generations. Great ball winner , plays well positionally but lacks the first touch and handling speed that most of his U 23 cohorts have. Good leader on the pitch. Atkinson still a fair bit in front. Talbot - slick technician, but needs to become a more dominant ball winner as a RB. He executed sone superb first touches hder pressure and is a good passer and mover. Nieuwenhof - being a Hearts better player, isn't significant internationally. However, in the one Olyroo game I saw him play, he should be in the senior Socceroos. Very accomplished on the ball and off the ball. Some of his pass and move sequences on the right flank with Brook, Trewin and Talbot were outstanding. He is also a good ball winner. Goes into a twin screening role with O'Neill for mine for the senior Socceroos immediately. Farrell - before the Olympic qualifiers I thought he was best outfield player int he entire U 23 squad - Euro players included. He must have been injured or fatigued in Qatar. He was very disappointing by his own lofty standards. Not sure now? Faz has been brilliant in the A L and in his previous hit out with the U 23s against Saudi. Like Niew on right flank, some of his pass and move sequences with Volodan, Natta and possibly Rodriguez, Milanovic and Garang K, were brilliant. Superb first touch statically and when he takes his touch away from his marker. Saw little of his explosive ball carrying in Qatar. Mo Toure- had a few shots against Jordan, 7 against Indo and 0 against Qatar. Strong and physical, but his shooting was a massive disappointment in Qatar, but was much better in lead up games. I like him more than Yengi, despite his poor shooting in Qatar. Wins a lot of hard balls against rugged CBs and causes turnoevers in attacking third. Has pace and power. Milanovic - really developing , but lost his shooting form In Qatar Olympic Cup qual comp. Defends well from the front. A weakness is when he dribbles and ball carries he doesn't keep his head up like Jake Hollman and Brook. Volpato - couldn' t care if he wants to play for Aus. I've seen so much talent coming through, we don't need him. Segevic, Voladan, Youlley and Jake Hollman, all have enormous talent at number ten. Jake Hollman - outstanding ball winner, keeps his head up when dribbling and ball carrying, has terrific acceleration, magnificent passer and mover in tight spaces, fast handling speed, and can play 6, 8 and 10. I think he is aged 22 and is a bit older than some of his teammates, but has more complete skill set than McGree and Metcalfe - albeit the latter being a better header and is physically stronger. Like Metcalfe, Jake H needs to score more goals. I'd be inclined to play him in the Socceroos now - like many of his U 23 teammates these guys have much quicker ball movement or ball circulation that most of the senior players don't. Also, defends better than Hrustic. Needs to build some upper body strength - overhead presses, lat pull downs and bench presses for mine in the gym. Lachlan Brook - I think he should be right wing for the seniors. Brooks is the most significant scorer from a wing, possibly apart from Goodwin. Shoots powerfully with both right and left foot outside the pen box. Terrific grafter in winning hard balls and tracking back. Excellent passer and mover in tight spaces. The complete winger. Take goo positions at back post. Better ball winner than Boyle, being physically stronger. Most players have a weaker foot, that good defenders identify. Brook is i accomplished on both sides of the body, he beats defenders cutting inside and outside. One issue he might lack speed over the turf. I have seen opposition players outpace him slightly wjhilst they have the ball at their feet, whilst he is running alongside them without the ball. When I have time I will appraise C- Perkins, Vadon, Youlley, Teague, Segecic, Villupillay. Some people reading this will be surprised any of us are enthusiastic about the U 23s, because of not qualifying for Olympics. If one has a look at the stats in Grazor's comprehensive U 23 thread, they absolutely dominated everywhere in all three games, except on the scoreboard. They had 60 shots at goal compared the combined of 18 for the opposition over the three games. Disagree when you say being one of Hearts better players isn't significant internationally. Hearts both traditionally and currently are Scotland's third biggest team meaning they regularly qualify for Europa league. Typically their top 2 or 3 players are Scottish internationals and are eventually picked up by prem teams or the old firm. Neil McCann, Steven naismith, Steven pressman and a long list of others. Case in point in the current team is Lawrence Shankland who is league top scorer and apart of the national team. Thanks for pointing this out, BOH. Generally when our players play in Scotland I see little improvement with play on the ball apart from Baccus.. The improvement tends to be in ball winning, which must be of greater value in Scotland in the type of football they play. If Hearts regularly play Europa league, which I think is a minimum of 6 tough tournament type matches, home and away, this is really good for players' development. Until recently, Scotland national team football hasn't been that successful. ATM they are a bit better from what I've seen, noting Lydon Dykes, an Aussie reject, plays for Scotland. Cheers D. I do see your point about the Scottish league in general which save for celtic rangers and only just Hearts, is prob A league level and thus not 'internationally significant' as you say. But Hearts do have a long history even in recent yrs of producing Premier league, old firm and international players. Dykes we did try to cap but covid happened so the games in 2000 were called off and by the next time the qualifiers came around he was called up by Scotland and so picked them instead.
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+x+x+xThe big weakness for the senior Socceroos is lack of sped of ball movement in midfield and attack. The U 23s have this quality in spades. Jake Hollman, Teague, Voladon, Jelecic, Youlley, Farrell, Talbot, C - Perkins, Natta, Segecic, Trewin, Brook, Milanovic, Villupillay, Garang Kuol, et al, have this quality when playing with each other. Backed by an experienced and tough defence of Ryan, Souttar, Atkinson, Rowles and Behich/Bos, the u 23s playing in more attacking positions in the senior could inflict serious damage. I would like ot se this team in the not too doestan future. ..........................................Ryan Atkinson...........Souttar........Rowles/Circati........Bos ...................Nieuwenhof..................O'Neill ....................................Jake Hollman Brook...................Yengi/Iredale................. Goodwin Need to see more of Robertson. Irvine should probably be in the midfield, because of his recent goalscoring output, but if we want slick attacking interplay and faster senior Socceroo ball movement in central midfield to break down deep defensive blocks, Nieuw, O'Neill and Jake Hollman are the players to do it , ably assisted by Brook at right wing. Goodwin and Souttar have to be there - Souttar for aerial presence at both ends of the pitch. Goodwin for his ability to provide assists, and composure in front goal as a winger. Also, a team leader with great experience. Other players have said publicly Goodwin lifts the whole team when on the pitch. Can't believe you've left out Bacchus and McGree, who is easily our best technician, Bacchus our best ball winner. Have to agree about Jake Hollman though albeit not ahead of Mcgree. Very well rounded player as you mentioned in the above. Brook seems to have a thumping shot on him on both feet, albeit just lacked the accuracy in qatar. Think we really need to start blooding some of these guys into the roos team quickly to a. Lift our national side and b. Assist their careers. For mine, Mo Toure is already past Duke, Farrell is already past Behich, Brook milanovic and Hollman are all about equal to Boyle, Metcalfe and Hrustic and past Mabil. Think those 3 are better than Yazbek also. N'hoff already equal to Irvine albeit Irvines mindset, leadership and goalscoring from mid are all Cahillesque. Regeneration needed fast. I beg to differ. I think Hrustic is the best technician with the ball in the front 6 with the ball at his feet. Where he is weaker is as a ball winner, and causing turnovers, in his performance when they have the ball. In the younger gen, we have good technicians in spades in midfield, who work harder off the ball than Hrustic - Nieuw, Teague, Jake Hollman - as ball winners and ball players - adding Jelacic, and Priestman ( can't even make Aus underage teams), plus Segecic, Youlley and Voladon as slick ball players. I'm a huge fan of Faz, but he was mediocre in Qatar when we needed him to terrorise the opposition defences. Vidmar didn't use him like that though. I think Faz wasn't 100% fit. Thanks for starting this thread, BOH. I felt gutted when South K played all over Aus in the Asian Cup seniors. At U 23 level, I think we are better than South K. We have hope! On pure skill yes I think hrustic is great and youre prob right prob our best but tactically and mentally not great ... his peripheral vision around him is poor always gets blindsided and decision making poor. Then mentality seems to drop his head/ act uninterested etc. As an overall package I still rate mcgree above any of our mids and forwards and think he has the highest ceiling. Already premier league quality imo. Easily can imagine him at an Everton or Fulham etc. And re bacchus I think he needs to sack his agent! Played very well at the world cup, consistently one of our best for the Roos and yet can't move away from his lower half Scottish side. I do remember previously championship teams and AEK athens were linked to him but then nothing eventuated
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+xRight now, there aren’t that many to break into the squad right away but I can see a fair few eventually getting caps. The uncapped players that I think are ready right now are Circati, Farrell, Brook, Milanovic and Irankunda.
Of players that have been capped, the likes of Tilio, Toure and Garang Kuol can definitely get back into the senior squad when they are fit, playing regularly and in form.
In the next 12 months, I can definitely see the likes of Girdwood-Reich and Teague seriously challenging for Socceroos spots.
And lastly, a potential call-up from left field. Giuseppe Bovalina had a good first season in the ALM and has now gone to the MLS. If he plays regularly there, then he should definitely be in consideration. Bovalina eh.. cheers will take a look
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